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  • 614
    614 Member Posts: 851
    edited March 2016

    Dear HH:  I'm glad that you were able to go for a massage and a facial.  The Healing Youch organization is terrific.   I go to Reike sessions through Healing Touch Buddies in Florida.  My buddy is outstanding.  She is a breast cancer survivor too.

    Dear Peggy:  I hope that you sell your house quickly (and for the price that you are asking) but that you are able to put a clause into the contract so that you can stay in your house until after the memorial for your DH.

    Dear Iammags:  I'm glad that you are feeling well after the lx.  Good luck with the pathology and tx plan.  I hope that you feel well.

    Dear Brutersmom:  I am sorry that your mom had Alzheimer's.  It is good that you were diagnosed after her passing.

    Dear ChiSandy:  I would be very worried about having a manicure. LE is terrible.  I wouldn't want to tempt fate.  Good luck. 


     

  • 614
    614 Member Posts: 851
    edited March 2016

    I meant to say Molly rather than MLP at the bottom of one of my previous posts.  Sorry.

  • mustlovepoodles
    mustlovepoodles Member Posts: 2,825
    edited March 2016

    614, I really don't have any choice about going back to work. I have used up all my sick leave and vacation time for the rest of the year. Fortunately, I work part-time. And I can do a lot of my work from home, via computer. I plan to start setting up my home visits tomorrow, with intentions to do home visits twice a week. DH has said he will drive me, which I'm grateful for (some of these homes are 75-100 miles away.) I need to have a hysterectomy, due to gene mutations, but it's just going to have to wait until I get more sick leave Oct 1. My poor boss probably thinks I'm addicted to surgery.

    Sadly, we had to give up our cruise in May. But we plan to do some tent camping at the lake, which is only 20 miles away--close enough for me to go home and do some work, if I needed to. Otherwise, our vacation will consist of visiting relatives this year.

  • Vicks1960
    Vicks1960 Member Posts: 473
    edited March 2016

    Melclarity,

    Within about 3 days after my my Partial Mastectomy (Drs. term), I had a HUGE Hematoma (breast filled with blood/fluid and looked like one huge bruise). When the dr. saw it, he was amazed....his nurse told my husband that they had never seen on that large). anyway the following morning I had surgery to reopen it and he removed 1100 ccs of fluid, a drain was left in for about 2 weeks. A few weeks later a Seroma developed in the area the tumor had been and my PCP aspirated almost 1000 ccs the first time and about 400 the second time but it has been fine since. Have to remain on the AI Letrozole until this coming november...

    Vickie

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited March 2016

    I’ve been having manicures for ages, and my tech now knows exactly why she can’t let a pair of clippers or scissors get anywhere near my right hand. I explained that any “insult” to the skin, whether or not living skin is broken or whether or not there’s any bleeding, can result in lymph fluid rushing to the area to prevent infection and cushion the area. She asked me why lymph node removal can lead to LE and I explained that can impair the system’s ability to drain unneeded lymph fluid; and I also explained about cellulitis. She understands now. Not getting manicures is not an option. I am a guitarist (steel strings), and most of my songs are fingerpicked rather than strummed using a flatpick. I never liked using fingerpicks (metal or plastic, which slide on over the fingertips) because they inhibit tactile feedback. Now I can’t wear them even if I wanted to, since they must fit tightly to make them feel “one with the finger” and keep from falling off--and something tight around the fingertip is a good way to get LE. Playing with bare--or even fortified with several coats of hardener or strengthener--nails is a non-starter: I can wear a notch into a fortified natural nail even before intermission, and the strings catch in the notch and screw up my playing.

    I get what are called “true gel” enhancements. Not the acrylics, which require the nail surface to be roughened (sometimes with power tools) before a plastic epoxy made with a solvent-dampened brush is dipped into powder and the resulting little ball is smoothed out and patted and left to dry & shape before polishing. Those are thick and completely non-porous. There is a type of gel overlay by which a UV topcoat is brushed atop the acrylics before they’re fully set and then cured with UV light, making them shiny and transparent before being polished. Those overlays & acrylics have to be “filled” by coating the new growth. Many “nail mills” (the ones you see in shopping malls with 20 or more manicure stations, where the techs wear masks and use power drills and barely speak English, and charge bargain prices) call the latter “gels,” but they’re not. What I get is several coats of actual gel brushed on from a little pot or bottle--clear base, translucent pink tint, white tip (I get a classic "French manicure” but natural-looking and oval, not squared off like the Long Island Medium or the Real Housewives), clear topcoat, with each coat cured instead by blue LED, not UV. Every 2 weeks they have to be soaked off, the tips of my natural nails shaped with an emery file, and the process done anew--so that the nail beds can breathe. It makes my nails hard but just flexible enough to feel the strings without cutting notches. I get my cuticles softened with cream and pushed back, not trimmed. I keep my L nails very short--below the “quick”--so that I can cleanly fret the strings. Several male guitarists as well as some violinists come into the salon for that as well. (They don’t get the French manicure, just a couple of clear coats). All the techs are either native English-speakers or speak it perfectly as a second language, and are paid salary rather than just tips. All the clients have their own tools which get labeled, autoclaved and stored separately; instead of those massage pedicure chairs she uses stainless steel foot bowls which get sterilized between uses. I pay through the nose, but it’s worth it, knowing I’m not perpetuating the near-indentured-servitude model practiced in the nail mills.

    I agreed with my tech that if as a result of not trimming dead cuticles and hangnails my right hand gels start to lift between manicures, I assume sole responsibility for that. My LE therapist----who discharged me today!--is fine with that.

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited March 2016

    Oh, and speaking of LE, my therapist is delighted with my progress. My ROM measurements are better than before therapy started, and not only haven’t I gained any arm or hand girth, my upper R arm is a cm smaller and my cording no longer visible. I need to see the LE doc for a followup, but he probably won’t need to do that impedance test ($750, not covered by Medicare or my supplement). I know my “triggers” and can prepare to head them off at the pass. My therapist agrees that when I do wear compression, the gauntlet is fine for hand protection everywhere but in the air (when I will wear the glove).

  • Melclarity
    Melclarity Member Posts: 388
    edited March 2016

    614 - ohhh no that was the funny part medical team said it was fine to do my work! Inspite of those things. So weird lol


    Vickie - oh my goodness thats terrible what you went through. Im most likely facing a mx later this year so bit anxious wont know til May.

  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,773
    edited March 2016

    Hi ladies, thank you all for your kind words about my mom. It's been very difficult especially since my diagnosis because it amplified how much I miss her. DS is doing a bit better, thankfully. I am getting a sore throat so need to sleep. Hugs to all.

  • octogirl
    octogirl Member Posts: 2,804
    edited March 2016

    Molly, I am going through much the same with my father....it really hurts. and so sorry that just when your son is doing better, you start to feel under the weather! Get some rest!

    Hugs. Hugs. HUGS!

    Octogirl

  • MLP3
    MLP3 Member Posts: 534
    edited March 2016

    lol Peggy! I'm not planning to get pregnant either... I don't have a uterus anyhow;) But my concern is mostly with the flu that it causes while I'm doing chemo.

    Ayr- I called my insurance anticipating a hold up and they had the request in from my no the day I met with her. My mo also said 7-10 business days and it was a little less. Mine was a 27.

    Now that my seroma went down and all of the swelling after lx and SNB... I have a blue stitch poking out! And it's a bit bothersome all of a sudden. I'm nervous about it getting infected. It's a hard stitch too and rubs against my bra. I might just put a band aid over it and wait until I see my mo on Tuesday for my next chemo.

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited March 2016

    MLP3, LOL!! I gather some people don't even know they've had the Zika virus. Of course better to avoid the opportunity to get it if you can or take precautions. How annoying about that blue stitch sticking out. Ouch!

    HUGS!

  • brithael
    brithael Member Posts: 224
    edited March 2016

    Sandy - great improvement on the LE. I went to my therapist again this week, and she did some manual drainage on me. I'll see her again next week when she's going to measure me for a sleeve. I still don't have major swelling, but I haven't yet started rads, so we're just being proactive. I will be flying in May to San Francisco, so I'll have the sleeve by that time just in case.

  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,773
    edited March 2016

    Hugs back to you, octogirl. I am sorry about your dad. Melclarity, the most difficult part of mastectomy for me has been trying to make a decision about reconstruction that works for my lifestyle and radiated tissue. The surgery recovery was uneventful except for the darn TE which initially I wanted to tear out of my chest. I have had it for six months as of today.

  • 614
    614 Member Posts: 851
    edited March 2016

    Dear Octogirl:  I'm sorry about your father.

    Dear Vicks:  I had a huge 8cm hematoma after my biopsy in May 2015.  It went away, thankfully.  I'm sorry about all of the other issues that you had to face. 

    Dear Brit and ChiSandy:  Yay for the good news regarding the LE.

    Dear Poodles:  It is a shame that you have to go back to work so soon.  I understand about the sick/personal/vacation time.  I had to use all of mine too because I went to Texas for tx.  At least your DH will be able to help with your commuting to HV's.  Feel well.

    Dear Peggy and MLP:  I had my ovaries removed so I have no plans to get pregnant either.  I hope that you don't get the Zicka virus or the flu.  Feel well MLP.

    Dear Melclarity:  At least you have time to decide whether you need to have a bmx.  Good luck with your decision.

    My son is still  sick.  He is going to the doctor again today.  My daughter came home from college - Spring Break.  She took one look at my son and said, "I bet that you have mono".  He definitely had the flu and food poisoning.  Obviously he was sick with something else too.  I hope that he feels better soon.  His illness is impeding his school work.  The quarter is almost over.  I am really worried about my son's health and his school.

  • MLP3
    MLP3 Member Posts: 534
    edited March 2016

    614- sorry to hear about your son. My 17 yo son had a concussion late fall and was out of school for a week, and then half days as tolerated for another week. It was hard to catch up on everything. But they let him keep his grades up until midterms and waived some of them. Maybe your sons teachers could do the same?

  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,773
    edited March 2016

    614, it is so hard to see our babies ill. I hope your DS gets better really soon.

  • mustlovepoodles
    mustlovepoodles Member Posts: 2,825
    edited March 2016

    Gosh, 614, your son just can't get a break. I would definitely have him assessed for mono. It can exist concurrently with other viruses and it lasts a looooong time. Hopefully, he'll turn out negative and he can get on with recovery.

    Got a prescription to see the LE specialist next week. The appointment is a ohGod:30, so that means I won't be able to take a sleeping pill the night before. I tried not taking the sleeper last night, just took a .5mg Ativan. It did nothing. Well, not exactly true. It worked for 1-1/2 hours. At 2am I was wide awake; finally I just went downstairs, got a snack, and watched TV with my dog in the recliner. Eventually, my eyes did close, but I kept waking up until 6:30am. I finally said f*ck it and just got up for good. I can hardly wait to go to bed tonight with my nice Restoril. It doesn't knock me out, but it allows me to have blissful sleep, which I desperately need for good recovery.

    Speaking of recovery, its going apace. The "dog bite" side (zombie breast) is looking better. I can actually pull part of it together, making a smaller space about the size of a silver dollar. The left side has a large collection of fluid. The NP today took a Qtip, stuck it in their and waved it around. It's got to be at least 2-1/2" deep and about that wide. Geesh! No wonder there's so much coming out. It doesn't drain much at home, but when they go at it, OMG.

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited March 2016

    Molly. so sorry to hear about your mom’s decline. I went through the same thing with my dad for several years before he died--we all (including his PCP) thought it was Alzheimer’s, but he switched shrinks and the new diagnosis was dementia of chronic depression. He began taking an SSRI and improved a little, but had a fatal arrhythmia that he and we knew would be a possible side effect. He said he didn’t care, he just couldn’t go on living with his mind "dropping out" on him. He’d never gotten to the inability-to-recognize-family stage, but he did have anhedonia, inexplicable phobias and delusions. When my mom called to tell me of his sudden death, I felt as though I’d lost him years earlier.

    614, definitely have your son tested for mono. But know that at least two collar counties around Chicago (including the one in which my cancelled house concert was to take place) have declared health emergencies because of flu. Nasty strain going around that doesn’t respond to abx (because it’s viral) and by the time it’s diagnosed it’s too late for antivirals to kick in to any useful degree. Rest, time & symptom control are the treatment modalities.

    Poodles, glad to hear that you’re healing slowly but surely. The q-tip thing sounds gross!

    In an hour or two I’m off to MI to meet with Peggy, Nancy B and the rest of the MI BCO crew late tomorrow morning! 3-1/2 hr drive, and I lose an hr to the time zone change, so best not to have to leave at 0-dark-30 with the chickens.....through the snow they’re predicting here starting after rush hr. and into tom’w morning. Hoping to outrun it, so that I won’t have to drive through much of it en route from the motel to the winery and then back home. If it’s too snowy I’ll stay another night. Not bringing a guitar, though--nowhere to play it and it’s not safe in the car overnight in the cold.

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited March 2016

    Sandy, good idea to travel to Jackson today. I'm hoping the weather gods will smile and all will be well. Can't wait to meet you and Suz-Q finally and catch up with the rest of my BCO friends!

    HUGS!

  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,773
    edited March 2016

    Sandy, I am sorry about your dad. That's how I feel, I lost my mom years ago and seeing her in a way that would horrify her is not fun. Have fun at the get together. I am completely jealous that you and Peggy are meeting!!

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited March 2016

    Molly, right now the weather is looking iffy. I have about a 90 minute drive all freeway and it can be really lousy in bad weather. Sandy was smart and has driven in tonight. BCO get togethers are the best!!! Take care!

    HUGS!

  • 614
    614 Member Posts: 851
    edited March 2016

    Dear Peggy and ChiSandy:  I am so glad that the two of you will be getting together.  I wish that I could meet you too.  Have a great time. 

    Dear MLP:  I am sorry that your son got hurt.  I am glad that he is better now.  I am glad that his teachers worked with him so that he could catch up.

    I am hoping that my son's teachers will work with him.  However, there are only 2 more weeks to the quarter so there is not much time to catch up, especially when my son is not feeling well.  The doctor gave my son antibiotics and a prescription for a blood test.  The doctor thinks that it is just a really bad strain of the flu.  I hope that my son feels better soon.

    Dear Molly:  It is tough to deal with sick parents.  I am sorry that you have to go through alzheimers with your mom.  I am also sorry that your son was sick.

    Dear Poodles:  I really hope that the area heals.  Working with a wound vac, not sleeping, and driving so many miles to do hv's is extremely taxing.  I am praying that you recover immediately.  Good luck with the LE appt.

    My daughter went to Manhattan today to interview for an internship at Bellevue Hospital for this summer.  The interview is tomorrow.  She brought only one carry on bag on the plane.  However, the flight attendant told my daughter that there was no room for her carry on bag in the overhead bins because the bins were already full, and that her bag would have to be checked.  Of course, the airline lost her bag.  She is 20 years old, extremely naive, and in NYC without any clothes or personal items.  There is nothing that I can do to help her.

    Luckily, my daughter is staying with my cousin who just completed rads last week.  My cousin had a business suit that will fit my daughter so at least, my daughter will have something to wear for the interview.   (They are not the same size so it is extremely lucky that an outfit was found that works.)  My cousin is suffering from every possible side effect from rads so she is not feeling well at all.  My cousin took my daughter shopping for shoes and other necessary apparel so that my daughter would be prepared for tomorrow.  I think that the shopping served to quell my daughters anxiety and it also helped my cousin to heal and to feel better.

    Please say a prayer that my daughter does well in her interview and that she is chosen for this internship for this summer at Bellevue.  THANKS!!  Also, hopefully, my daughters bag will be found and delivered to her tonight or tomorrow (with everything intact). 

    My brother is visiting from Colorado this week.  It is great to be able to spend time this weekend with my brother, my mother, and my Aunt and Uncle who are "snow birds" from NY.  (My son too if he feels up to it.) 


     

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited March 2016

    Just checked into my hotel in Jackson about an hour ago! See you brave snow-defying sisters 11:30 tomorrow. (They're saying no more than 1-2," at least the Lansing/Jackson NBC station).

    614, keeping a good thought for your daughter so that her bag gets found, at least before she has to go home--and that she gets that Bellevue internship! (Precursor to med school in a couple of years)? She needs to be ultra-assertive next time, letting the attendants know it's her ONLY bag and has her valuables in there precisely so they wouldn't get lost. At least one a-hole businessman should have to check his monstrosity of a roll-aboard. What I do is put my purse into a tote just before boarding, along with prescription meds, change of undies, jewelry and laptop--and then stash it under the seat in front of me. That way if my carry-on bag doesn't make it into the overheads, at least I have my valuables with me.

  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,773
    edited March 2016

    614, myprayers for your son to heal and for your daughter to get her bag back and to ace the interview. It's simply awful that they forced her to check her only bag. I see people with ridiculous amounts of luggage carried onto the plane.

  • LillianM
    LillianM Member Posts: 3
    edited March 2016

    Good idea. Has anyone had lumpectomy without clear margins and then needed a mastectomy? How are the recoveries different? Home care, pain, time of recovery, etc. Experience????

  • MLP3
    MLP3 Member Posts: 534
    edited March 2016

    614- sorry to hear that about your daughter! Sending positive thoughts her way for that job!

    Chisandy and Peggy- please send pictures! Have fun girls;)

  • LovesToFly
    LovesToFly Member Posts: 1,133
    edited March 2016

    so many people have posted so many things lately, I've been hesitant to post because I know I'm going to miss so much. I guess I'm starting fresh, and I will just say I hope that anybody that is having troubles those troubles will start to get better, and that anybody is doing well things keep on going well!

    I'm back in chemo Tuesday, looking at my prescriptions for way more steroids that I'm used to and narcotic painkillers is pretty scary. That said I've been reading a lot of postings in different boards from people that did my protocol, some people found the next truck a lot easier, something that a lot harder, something that about the same but different. So I have hope that I will tolerate it well just as I have tolerated my current one well.

    My cold is completely gone except for runny nose, but I've had a runny nose pretty well since chemo started anyway!

    I seem to be the one who keeps bringing up sex, so I guess I will again. Obviously our sex life has been impacted and we are having less ( mostly because I often fall asleep before the kids do) but still doing it. However the last time I had a hard time…finishing. Anybody else have this issue? I'm wondering if it was emotional, or the medication, or what. I seriously never have this issue!



  • mustlovepoodles
    mustlovepoodles Member Posts: 2,825
    edited March 2016

    LTF, I'm sorry you're having difficulty I'm the intimacy department. I can't help you much. We no longer have sex due to DHs poor health and, um, mechanical difficulties (despite meds.) I just wanted to sympathize. Losing that kind of intimacy is really a huge big deal and I hope you can work it out.

  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,773
    edited March 2016

    LillianM, I had a lumpectomy that later became a mastectomy. I surprised my BS with extensive LVI and a mixture of IDC and DCIS that prevented her from getting clean margins. I later had a skin sparing umx with tissue expander placed. It was a good thing she took the nipple because there was DCIS hiding in the stem. Recovery was easier in some ways because the Axillary lymph node dissection was pretty uncomfortable. The worst part of the mx was the expander. I had pressure and Spasms in my chest until two weeks later my drain was removed and my PS started filling the expander. I felt relief from the spasming once it was filled. Since I had two back to back surgeries I had to have my fills done in three weeks to get radiation started. I am still waiting for reconstruction surgery.

  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,773
    edited March 2016

    LTFly, I have to work really hard mentally to get "there" and sometimes I just don't. I want to blame it on the meds but I think a lot is mental. I don't feel attractive. I hope in the future once this is all done things in that department improves. In the meantime I am willing because my DH needs it and I miss the intimacy.

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