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  • Andraxo
    Andraxo Member Posts: 410
    edited March 2016

    You will get there Twnktoz! So exciting that you already signed up for another big race. Yay you! You're almost done rads and get that part of your life back soon - oh I can't wait to get there too. :)

    Slathering up more now - Thanks Mdoc. :) Still avoiding the Aquaphor though - I have plenty of other thick lotions that are not greasy.

    Katja23 - I just started chatting with the woman who goes right after me. She asked about my henna head on Tuesday and I started talking to her more yesterday, but there is very little time given the efficiency of the clinic. Wanted to make sure I at least knew her name since I'll be seeing her daily for 6 weeks! She started the same day I did and will end around the same time depending on boosts.

    Last night I ended my Spanish class emotionally. The instructor went 30 min over (class is supposed to be 90 min without any breaks) and accelerated things during that time. My chemo brain couldn't keep up, I was toast. I've never had a language brain, but wow it is hard. It triggered a wave of sadness over what has been taken from me by cancer treatment....even if only temporary. I talked to the instructor and let him know I will be struggling and not likely able to keep up, but want to continue and will try my best. He was supportive and thinks it will be good for my brain. I agree. He also reassured me that some people take the intro class 2-3x! So yesterday started and ended with some emotional meltdowns. Thankfully the middle was great as usual!

    What Fearlesss195 wrote truly resonates. I am such a strong person and was rarely sad/emotional...but then cancer. Still finding it hard to accept that I have cancer and my life will never be the same. Some of it is better of course, but it's hard not to grieve the losses now and again. Want to live as long as I can and keep on exploring and enjoying it like I do!

    have a super Thursday everyone - love and hugs to you all! Wishing everyone skin that does not feel raw, hurt, or itch!


  • KateB79
    KateB79 Member Posts: 747
    edited March 2016

    I'm with Fearless and Andraxo. . . Here's the thing: we ARE strong people. I mean, look at what we've been up against, you know? Andraxo, I say keep going to the class. Maybe I'm projecting my own fears and desires, but I think it sounds like a great challenge. That said, I totally empathize with you--my saddest moments in this whole ordeal have been when I have to accept, very honestly, my own (new) limitations.

    I'm red and crispy, but only have four days of zaps left. I'm honestly not sure what I'm going to do to celebrate on Wednesday... Oh, wait. Yes I am. I'm celebrating by seeing my MO, getting my Herceptin infusion, and starting Tamoxifen. Lol; I really know how to party.

    I'd post a pic, but I think most of us know what red, angry, itchy skin looks like.

    Tried cabbage leaves last night. They work. They pulled the heat right on out, and the itchiness was gone until this morning. I'm a believer!

    I'm told the skin stuff gets worse before it gets better. I'm hoping not to have any skin breakdown, though I have a patch on my side that feels scaly. Fingers crossed as I slather on more Miaderm.

    Edited to add this: Mary! No! Not the dreaded virus... I'm so sorry. If you've got what I've got, I vote to take the horse pills. Hang in there

  • morelandks
    morelandks Member Posts: 51
    edited March 2016

    Thanks so much to everyone for singing the blues on this board (especially you, Twinkltoz). I have been so down the last couple of weeks - it's comforting to have all the encouragement of thesisterhood!

    I concur, rads is much harder emotionally than chemo. For me I think it's partly because I'm just so dag gum exhausted - worn out coming into rads, and then radiation fatigue on top of that. Also, with chemo, I could feel the progression of each cycle - at the end of each one I got to feel better, which gave me a sense of getting through it. With rads, I just keep feeling worse worse worse - and then with the everyday-ness, it wears me down.

    Tessio - I'd love to join you on the beach at Club Cabbage - thanks for the giggle!

    Twinkltoz - re boosts, my skin outside the boost area started improving right away, but the fatigue still dogs me. My RO says it take a couple of months to start feeling better

  • morelandks
    morelandks Member Posts: 51
    edited March 2016

    Kate - I told my techs about the KitchenAid analogy and they burst out laughing - never thought of it before. And then they said it will REALLY look like a mixer when I get to boosts, as they put this extender / cone thing on the "head" of the machine. I fondly great my KitchenAid every time I walk in the room. And I am into the boosts now, and can report that my techs were right!

    Tessio - I finish this week too - 32 down,only one more to go!!

  • morelandks
    morelandks Member Posts: 51
    edited March 2016

    Jersey girl - CONGRATULATIONS!!! I love the "woohoo" of your post and wish I could have seen you dancing around that med center (I truly hope it was in a goofy gown. . .)

  • morelandks
    morelandks Member Posts: 51
    edited March 2016

    Peabrain - I am considering ovary removal, so yes, am interested to know how it goes for my own reasons, but also interested just to know how you are doing! (as I'm sure the whole board is!)

  • morelandks
    morelandks Member Posts: 51
    edited March 2016

    Ag23 - My RO was very restrictive with creams, but not to zero. They gave me a light, fragrance free moisturizing cream, said to use absolutely nothing else, and to apply it 3 times daily, but not within 2 hours of treatment as they wanted the skin completely clean / naked for the zapping (okay, they didn't say "zapping"). I pressed re why, and all my RO would say is that it is "their preference." My skin has held up extremely well - only medium redness and no blistering after 31 of 33 treatments (25 of which were full breast plus clavicular node zaps, so big area treated).

    PS to the board - my RO is just awful - actually has yelled at me for asking questions (!). It is so nice to hear that there are wonderful, communicative RO's out there that you love - gives me hope for the profession!

    (PPS to the board - I'm obviously catching up after a few days off - sorry for all the separate posts but it's the only way I can manage to keep track of all y'all!

  • Twnkltoz
    Twnkltoz Member Posts: 215
    edited March 2016

    I'm glad that sharing my feelings had such a positive impact! I agree that part of it is the cumulative effect: chemo, surgery, and now this. It's a long rollercoaster of a road, and mine was shorter than many. But it's temporary! And you know what? I have never felt so loved as I have since I was diagnosed.

  • marijen
    marijen Member Posts: 3,731
    edited March 2016

    Breast cancer: The mental trauma of severe disease

    Medicalnewstoday.com under breast cancer - new study results today
  • Creativevintage
    Creativevintage Member Posts: 76
    edited March 2016

    To all of you ladies who are currently undergoing RADS, hang in there! It does get better and the fatigue does end. I just went for my six week post rad checkup and I am doing great. I have been back to work full time for a month now and my energy level is very good. I am doing almost everything I did pre-bc diagnosis with no fatigue. The real interesting thing is that I am much happier now than before I was diagnosed. I seem to be able to let things roll over me easier where as before I would stew and hang on to things. I seem to smile everyday! I have three more months of Herceptin left, but I am tolerating that well with no side effects.

  • morelandks
    morelandks Member Posts: 51
    edited March 2016

    Twinkltoz and Creativevintage - thank you for the words of encouragement - I really needed them today! I, too, have have been overwhelmed by how much love and care appeared for me with my diagnosis - and I don't mean the frilly silly platitude kind, but the soul-affirming, in the grit, I-really-know-you kind.

    What I've been so down about is the thought that living like this - feeling like this, complete with full on brain damage (!) - is going to be the state of affairs for the rest of my life. My road is a bit different, as I have to move on to hormone suppressants and ovarian shutdown after rads are done (anyone else in this boat??? would love to know which hormone therapy board(s) you are participating in)) - these also bring fatigue and cognitive difficulties, so today, I just couldn't cope with the thought that it will never end. So, to hear that things do improve and that at least someone is able to get back to the pre-BC "her" is so encouraging.

    What did I do to make myself feel better? Got off discipline and went and ordered myself a fancy birthday cake (indulging in a sample or two!) - my 50th is coming up in April, and in a fit of silliness I decided to throw myself a party. Thank goodness my MO is ok with delaying the start of HT until afterwards

  • Twnkltoz
    Twnkltoz Member Posts: 215
    edited March 2016

    @moreland, that's not silly at all! I'm throwing a cancer "after party" to celebrate the end of treatment. I also had a hair funeral and shave my head when my hair started to fall out during chemo. I have no trouble throwing myself parties.

    TWO MORE TREATMENTS

  • morelandks
    morelandks Member Posts: 51
    edited March 2016

    oh I wish I had thought of the hair funeral! Hah! what a great idea.

  • JerseyGirl22
    JerseyGirl22 Member Posts: 342
    edited March 2016

    morelandks, I have to continue with Herceptin until summer, and I'll be starting hormonal drugs when they determine where my hormone levels are; they aren't sure if I'm in menopause or chemoause, so had the blood draw this week and should know next week....right now, just resting from finishing rads and praying for energy to return... hang in there!!

    Warrior On!


  • Suz-Q
    Suz-Q Member Posts: 205
    edited March 2016

    Twnkltoz, I love the idea of a hair funeral! Ha! too ingenious!

    Morelandks, sorry your RO has been so awful! No one should treat cancer patients, or any patients that way. As for hormone therapy, I'm on Anastrozole and I haven't had any problems so far. My brain has been functioning at full speed since finishing treatment. We are under so much stress and anxiety during treatment that I can't imagine anyone thinking straight! Once I finished rads and started my new, normal, post BC life I felt mentally and emotionally stronger, normal, again. In fact I've been bored at work and took on a couple new assignments. Today I didn't have enough hours to finish everything I wanted to get done. It felt great to have my focus back on work and not on BC!

  • Andraxo
    Andraxo Member Posts: 410
    edited March 2016

    Met with Rad Onc today after tx#4. Asked about the boosts now scheduled for the end, but he isn't sure about them yet...has to think about it more. Usually boosts go along a typical mastectomy scar which cuts across the chest or where the tumor was if someone had a lumpectomy (areas of higher risk for recurrence). I have atypical mastectomy scars because I had nipple sparing. They are like smiley face mouths below where my little breasts were (I call them my smileys)...like where people get implants put in. If he decides yes for boosts he'd have to target the approximate area of where my tumor was. Really hoping he decides no.

    Also saw Med Onc on Tuesday. I see her again in 3 months (May 31st) and that is when she will start me on Tamoxifen (or other drug if I'm in menopause)....approx 6-7 weeks after radiation ends, depending on the boosts. Nice to get some recovery time before the hormonal treatment phase...especially that the hormonal phase is 5 freakin' years for the first drug and then likely another 5 years or longer of another drug.

    Did anyone save their hair? I was planning to do some awful felting project with it! hahah! it is funny and gross at the same time.

    Staying happy and positive as I can in realizing I am still doing everything I did pre-cancer dx. Maybe not as fast, as well, as long, or as often, but I'm doing it ...working, running/exercise, etc. Yes my brain is fuzzy and my muscles still aren't feeling or working quite right, but I'm holding my own and living life. Thankful my waves of sad over the whole situation (sucks!!) don't last too long in any given day. Aside from cancer, my life is great! Like Twnkltoz, I feel more loved now than ever...though people have dropped off a bit after chemo ended (maybe they think the hard part is done...even though it isn't...at least not mentally/emotionally, that's the hardest part!). Hoping radiation doesn't take too much out of me physically...too soon to tell - approx 30 more tx to go.

    - xo


  • Fearless1956
    Fearless1956 Member Posts: 106
    edited March 2016

    Morelandks---I've also moved on to the hormonal treatment since finishing rads about a month ago. I'm taking anastrozole and having minimal side effects after being on it since Feb. 8. There is a board for Arimidex/anastrozole users. I've seen a few others from this board on there also.

    The encouragement and support on this board is phenomenal. I wish there was a way we could all meet one another. I went to a breast cancer support group around my area one time and did not find it encouraging or helpful at all. I did find out about another cancer support group at the hospital where I work and went to it last week. I met a couple of ladies there who had been through breast cancer so maybe there's hope in that group. Through that group, I found out about a free weekly yoga class just for cancer patients that I'm going to try out sometime next month.

  • Brimton
    Brimton Member Posts: 87
    edited March 2016
    Hi Everyone Today was better. Techs were good. Hang in there everyone. I'm doing pretty good so far. 23/30. I'm wondering if chemo stresses the body and the skin. I had the lumpectomy and no chemo. I have been putting aquafor 3x per day and rubbing it in well. EVERYDAY regardless of where I am and what I am doing. I wear my shirt with the hole cut in it after dinner until the next morning. After treatment I put on aquafor and a soft sports bra. I have the red dot rash on my upper chest and little pink everywhere else. The rash is not as bad poisin ivy. I drink a TON of water or tea a day. Try to get in 30 oz before treatment and then drink at least 34 oz for the day. The nurse said my skin will continue to get worse for a week after treatment. emotionally I struggle with how much cancer has taken over my everyday life and thoughts. Which makes me think of all of you having to go through chemo. you are warriors!! I continue to visualize us holding hands before my treatment and while it is occurring I focus on the protons distroying the cancer DNA.
  • mairew
    mairew Member Posts: 84
    edited March 2016

    I have #10 today. It does seem to be flying (kind of). So far my nipple is a bit sore. The boob is bigger (swollen ever so slightly) so I will ask the RO about that today. I do hate the Kitchen Aid (gantry). Its like an evil machine has taken over the world. While I am on the table I pray that everyone who lies on the table that day will have a safe and peaceful day, and I also visualize all you wonderful warrior women holding hands in a circle around me protecting me during my treatment. I feel we, as a group, do that with everyone as they have their daily treatments.

  • DiDel
    DiDel Member Posts: 1,329
    edited March 2016

    Happy Friday dance!!!!! 25 down 9 to go!!

    Congrats to those that finished up this week...to those just starting it will be over before you know it

    7of9 I feel the same way you do about doing rads initially. I wished I did that rather than chemo first time around. Plus I was so shuffled from one thing to the next I would have blindly accepted whole breast radiation. My recurrence was in the skin and muscle so they are zapping the tumor bed. I thought wbr was over kill for a 5 mm tumor. Of course as I get to the end I'm nervous about another recurrence and if cells are still in the muscle but I know I can't go there decision made need to move forward.

    The thing I love about us is that we are strong and it's hard to admit and accept the limitations or life changes of having bc but I feel like when you get to that point you really move forward. I have 2 friends with bc one is going thru chemo now and the other did rads a year ago. Both hugely in denial of the seriousness of their dx. It's so frustrating to see. The one thinks chemo is a weekly party and literally brings 5-6 people with her and goes to lunch afterwards and twice has had infection from eating salad from restaurant that her onc has told her numerous times to avoid . I dont jnow how she's gonna get through rads. She 100% doesnt take tge advice if her mo on how to get through tx. The other one is 68 was on Premarin for 30+ years and I swear she's not taking her Femara and I'm pretty sure she's still taking the Premarin. She's insane...I ratted her out to her mo (we have same Dr and she's like family ) so he ran through stats with her the other day and started crying that he was really mean to her. I was like he's trying to keep you cancer free but your vanity is preventing you from taking the drugs you need to take. It's maddening.

    Anyhow I'm forever grateful for everyone I've met her and all the support and advice I've gotten.


    OK my skin is purple and I'm exhausted . .laying down.

    Enjoy your weekend everyone!

    Hugs to all

    Diane

  • Andraxo
    Andraxo Member Posts: 410
    edited March 2016

    realized something this morning... I initially wake up content/happy. Another beautiful day! Yay! Then something creeps in. I become aware that I'm stiff and my muscles still don't move my legs well, that my head is covered by a hat because I'm bald and it is cold in the room, that I don't have breasts, and today there was the added bonus of a hot spot on my ribs after only 4 radiations tx. As I lie in bed for those few minutes after waking up happy, I become aware of... 'the situation'. The situation that I have cancer and am in treatment for cancer. Me! How did this happen? Sucks. Then I have to go through some mental gymnastics. Ask myself how would pre-cancer me start the day? How can I stay true to myself and feel like ME? How do I ignore all of these things I've just become aware of before they consume me mentally? The answer is always to get up and go for a run or lift weights/plyo. Exercise. No matter how my body feels physically or whether or not I will do it well. Even pre-cancer me knew that if I didn't do it as soon as I get up, I will never do it....because the details of the day and the rest of life simply get in the way. I have no motivation later. Exercise gives me a boost to get through my day. Maybe it is the accomplishment of something? I realized that I tackle a lot of my day thinking about how pre-cancer me would do it and trying to do things pre-cancer me would do...because F@%! cancer! I will continue to fight hard (the emotional/mental fight is by far the hardest), and be me, and have a life I love. I will get through all this. When all is said and done, I may not have a life as long as I wanted, and maybe I'm going to end up with something else down the road (something chemo or rad-induced...my biggest fear) but I'm still going to enjoy life as much as I can! Just wish I could flip a switch and turn off the mental game...get off the mental roller-coaster.

    Thank you for giving me a place to vent and be supported. You are all so beautiful!

    Hope everyone has a super Friday and weekend! Get out there and do something fabulous for you! xoxox

  • JerseyGirl22
    JerseyGirl22 Member Posts: 342
    edited March 2016

    Andraxo, I couldn't have said it better myself!!! I find that the mental side for me is the hardest as well... Since finishing rads, I know that I have to "rest up" a bit to get energy back, as the zaps zapped my energy big time. However, I also know that I need to move and keep moving to keep strong and healthy. As I look to my next Herceptin and starting hormone therapy I try to think, "OK, new normal" What will it look? Who will I be? I love the way you put this...

    ... because the details of the day and the rest of life simply get in the way...

    I, too, wish there was a switch to flip and turn of the "cancer thoughts"

  • JerseyGirl22
    JerseyGirl22 Member Posts: 342
    edited March 2016

    KateB79, How are you feeling?

  • Twnkltoz
    Twnkltoz Member Posts: 215
    edited March 2016
  • KateB79
    KateB79 Member Posts: 747
    edited March 2016

    Feeling pretty good! The antibiotics are working... I slept a lot again yesterday, but that could be from zaps, too. Who knows?

    Today I went and got my zaps, and then headed to the gym, where I did some cardio before my yoga class. I can't wait to get my endurance back. Soon, soon....

    Andraxo, I hear you on the exercise. My worldview is vastly improved on days I get moving a little bit. I've accepted that I may never squat my body weight for reps again, but I'm learning that my body can do more than I thought. It's a slow road.

    Three more days/12 more zaps, and you can stick a fork in me.

    Happy weekend, everyone! Sending lots of love.

  • Tessio
    Tessio Member Posts: 46
    edited March 2016

    morelandks, are you done? Woo who!

    Andra, well said!

    Twinktoz, how is your underarm area. Mine is raw and painful. My therapist tech looked at it yesterday and said, "Wow, we did this to you!"

    I woke up happy this morning, like a child on their birthday. I even danced in the shower. I can't remember the last time I did that. At 3:30 I will have my last treatment. My eyes feel bright in a way they haven't felt in a while. RADs has been a roller coaster..... Crying like a baby for the first week on the table, to sedating myself, to pushing through. I have kept the image of us holding hands in a circle every zap. I know there is more to come.....but I'm so grateful to have warriored on, so grateful to have more time with precious family and friends, so grateful for ya'll.

    I signed up for Race for the cure next month in Indy. If anyone is in the area, let me know. XXXX

  • etnasgrl
    etnasgrl Member Posts: 650
    edited March 2016

    morelandks.....your RO yelled at you for asking questions???!!!!! I can't even begin to imagine that. I'm shocked that a doctor would actually do that! I hope you told him off! No one deserves to be treated that way!

  • Peabrain
    Peabrain Member Posts: 268
    edited March 2016

    Hello! I'm back!

    Just three days after finishing rads and my skin looks MUCH better. The two open spots are closed again and the red has faded to pink or tan. Maybe being hydrated during my surgery really helped? Still lotioning like a fiend.

    So, no more ovaries. The surgery went fine, robotic laparoscopic oopherectomy (did I get that right?). I was scheduled on my surgeon's last day before parental leave, but she went into labor that morning. One of her partners covered her schedule and his, so I was there a while, got to know all the nurses. Everyone was very funny, kept me updated on my doctor's childbirth.

    For some reason I thought the surgery would be pretty minor being outpatient and all. In comparison to BMX it is minor, but it is no joke. For starters, I was surprised to have three new inch long scars to add to my collection and they are above my belly button line. I thought ovaries were sort of low slung, kind of bikini line level. And they seem to have violated my belly button by using it as a fourth access point. Rude. And I am much more sore than I anticipated, still on painkillers, although I think today might be the transition day to Advil (yes, they actually recommended it over Tylenol. Guess no one cares if my blood is thinned now.)

    Strangely, I haven't had a hot flash since before the surgery. Maybe the painkillers squash them?

    For the upcoming two weeks, no driving, no lifting anything that I need two hands to lift, no yoga, running or swimming, or much of anything. Basically they don't want anything to pull on the surgery area and surrounding muscles. I keep thinking of all these tasks I could take care of, but no.

    Normally they let you go back to work after two weeks. But because of the string of other medical adventures I've had this year (BMX, chemo & rads) they want me to take time to recover from everything and take a minimum of four and preferably six weeks before I go back to work. I am not complaining about this. And I am really looking forward to an Airstream outing.

    Part time back to work, mid April. My typical work week is 50-60 hours with a lot of time on construction sites, climbing roof ladders, etc, so it'll take some ramping up.

    And then there's the brain. I oversee 30+ active projects at a time, lots of multitasking. I am going to have to find a new way to keep notes because these days, I can set down my keys, turn around and lose them. This is the part that worries me the most. How long will it take to get my brain back? Or mostly back? Does anyone know if the damage is noticeably permanent?

    Just have to agree with you all that I have never felt so loved. It has been humbling how many people have reached out, both old barely in touch friends and work colleagues who have become new friends during all this. I hope to find a way to stay connected with everyone once the excitement winds down.

    Anyway, enough from me. Big hugs to everyone in the mixing zone!





  • Ag23
    Ag23 Member Posts: 37
    edited March 2016

    I just had my third tissue expanded fill and I am in crazy pain! I've had 3 fills (weekly!). Is my surgeon going at too fast of a pace? Part of my incision was opening up so he put glue back on it today. And that was before the fill!

    Now I'm in so much pain. There is a burning pain when I breathe, like a take your breath away pain. :o

  • Peabrain
    Peabrain Member Posts: 268
    edited March 2016

    @Ag - I don't think it's supposed to be like that. I've heard you can have them fill very slowly, only 25cc at a time. Can you have them take some back out to relieve the pressure

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