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  • KateB79
    KateB79 Member Posts: 747
    edited March 2016

    Congrats to all who have finished or are finishing!

    Tomorrow is my first day without the bolus, which means. . . I only have five more days of zaps. Woo-hoo!

    The itching. My goodness. . . .

  • El_Tigre
    El_Tigre Member Posts: 520
    edited March 2016

    KateB79, have you had a bolus every other time the entire radiation time up until now?

    I just met with my RO and she said to stop the bolus (so i would be 2 short on the bolus). So i have 3 more normal zaps. Did your RO give a reason? (I'm not getting boosts due to my TE) My RO said to skip the last 2 bolus days to preserve my skin integrity.

  • Brimton
    Brimton Member Posts: 87
    edited March 2016
    Hi everyone
    I forgot to tell you I fell down the stairs on Monday. Yesterday after rads my left lung, where I'm getting zapped, started to hurt when I breathed deep. I mentioned it to the RO and she acted like it couldn't be the rads. She said my lungs are clear. UGH We have heard that before haven't we. She says I'm doing really well. Red dots are expanding now over my boob and underneath. So far no breakthrough. We discussed my boosts which will be electrons straight to the tumor bed. No sim as I have no fuild build up. 8 more to go! I have to tell you I had a new tech today (woman) and she left me totally exposed on the table. Routinely I show up with my flannel shirt no bra or camisole, they call me back, I hop up on the table unbutton and they strap my feet down, I put my arms up over my head. The techs position me and they are VERY Careful not to leave me exposed. But today was different. Totally out there! I don't know which one of you said it but I did not like that at all. Kind of like a voyeur staring at you on camera. Anyone in the hall could glance and see me. How like an object I felt laying there. I'm still visualizing all of us holding hands. Yes Kate it is energy producting! Maybe my last day I'll make you all dance a jig!
  • VickiRides
    VickiRides Member Posts: 211
    edited March 2016

    Congrats to Jersey and Peabrain and everyone else finishing this week!!!

  • Moondust
    Moondust Member Posts: 510
    edited March 2016

    Peabrain, you are in my thoughts today. Hope everything goes great.

    Brimton, tell your RO you are stressed out. Ask how they can be sure there is no damage to the lung. I would be adamant if it were me, because I'm sooo concerned with not damaging anything besides the targeted tissue. I'm very surprised that you are visible to people in the hallway during treatment. Don't they have to close the thick door for radiation safety?

    My techs cover me with a thin blanket. I asked if the blanket affected anything because some women don't have any covering. He said it did not. I also asked about the Miaderm because of what Ag23 said about not using lotions at all. My tech said the reason they want it on at least 2 hours prior is so it is all absorbed. Otherwise it might cause a rash, but it would not affect the radiation dose in any way. Interesting (and scary) how different places tell us different things.

  • Andraxo
    Andraxo Member Posts: 410
    edited March 2016

    Hi All! So happy to see so many finishing up! Hooray!

    So it looks like I get the 11 treatments with the bolus (2 down so far, #3 today) and the last 17 without. In my electronic patient portal It looks like someone added 6 boosts at the end...which is another f'ing week to make it 34 treatments. I'm annoyed by this (and finding out about it electronically) since the RO initially told me I likely wouldn't need boosts. I will ask him tomorrow when I see him in person. I'm calling BULLS**T on this one.

    Hard to know how much lotion/cream slathering I need to do right now while it is early. suggestions? I'm doing 2x/day, but nothing heavy/thick - it absorbs in well. And...of course I am concerned about exercise as my skin gets sensitive and starts to fail as I get more zaps under my belt (or...on my chest).

    I ran this morning and starting bawling at mile 3. My leg muscles weren't cooperating again and I was short of breath the whole time. Mile 3 was where I had to climb up 3 stupid rock steps and needed my arms to pull myself up and then rest a minute. This run is in the arroyo, so it's dirt trail and sand...which is very hard for my legs right now - I always feel defeated by it. I still did the entire 5 miles, but cried even more at the turn around where my partner was waiting. He's so supportive, and I know it hurts him to see me feeling defeated when he thinks I'm doing so well. I do logically know that running 5 miles is a big deal, but I just want to be all better NOW (said in the voice of Veruca Salt...the snotty girl in the original Willy Wonka who wanted the golden goose NOW). Aside from a rough start with tears, I'm having a great day working from home! My happiness kicked back in after breakfast despite all this cancer crap. :)

    Second Spanish language class tonight. Wow...I've never been good with languages, but my chemo brain really sucks at it! Didn't realize my short term memory was affected so much from chemo until I tried practicing conjugating verbs in Spanish and making sentences. I think I'm in over my head, but I will keep at it!

    Thanks for all the sweet comments about my henna head! I flaked off the paste a couple of hours ago and this is what it looks like now (pic below). Not as exciting or striking as the dark brown paste, but still pretty interesting. :) Twnkltoz - I still have some regular stubble and a lot of that new translucent fuzz/hair and it really helped hold the paste on for an entire day instead of a few hours. The woman that did it was glad I didn't razor shave my head.

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  • KateB79
    KateB79 Member Posts: 747
    edited March 2016

    El Tigre, I've had a bolus for every treatment thus far (20). My RO is yanking it because my skin is holding up well, and he wants that to continue. He did a weird thing where he stared at the angry red box on my chest for about 90 long seconds, blinked, sat back, and said "okay, we're not using the bolus for the last five." I wonder if he saw some sort of message in my fire-engine red scar. . . .

    Today one of the techs said my RO is "aggressive," which I think explains the bolus. Mine was a custom mold to my body; the techs asked me if I wanted to keep it. I politely declined, but said goodbye to it as I left the room this morning.

    I've been imagining us all holding hands in a circle every time I get my zaps since you brought that up, Brimton. Thanks for that--it's a great image. :)

    I hope you feel better! No more falling down the stairs!

    I'm doing cabbage leaves tonight. This itching has made me crazy all day. But I'm back at work today, which feels good after the miserable in-bed-with-flu past few!

  • Andraxo
    Andraxo Member Posts: 410
    edited March 2016

    Moondust - They tell me there is no way to completely miss all of the lung no matter precise when zapping the chest wall, but only one small area is affected. In 6-8 weeks after treatment ends, it may/can (doesn't happen to everyone) result in some lung inflammation of the affected lobe that is easily treated by a few days of steroids.

    Also...I talked with the MO yesterday about my concerns about general chemo-induced and radiation-induced problems in the future (such as leukemia, heart problems, other cancers etc). She said those things don't usually appear until at least 10 YEARS out and there is no way to know what, if anything, can happen to anyone. That didn't help me to hear. She tried to re-focus me on the now and that the first 5 years is serious and a very big deal and that based on all my tests/factors./treatments, 99% that I will NOT have any recurrence in 5 years as long as I complete rads. I guess that is something and I should be happier about it.

  • AmyBeader
    AmyBeader Member Posts: 90
    edited March 2016

    Congrats to the finishers-YAY!!!

    I had my first treatment today and had another male tech. (and a female as well).. And, just like the sim and the ct, I was totally exposed on the table for the entire time. Not only that, but the station I went to to verify my name/birthdate and treatment area has video cameras of the treatment room, so anyone walking by the station can see what's going on in the treatment room. And, I have to walk past the men's dressing room/waiting area to get to the women's dressing room/waiting area. Clearly they are not too concerned for anyone's privacy. But everyone seems to think nothing of it, and they are all obviously focused on their jobs.

    I am surprised that they would treat through a thin blanket, because the tech today moved my gown down lower "to keep it out of the field". That made me think it could affect the beam.

    Oh well, I'm just not going to stress over it anymore! One down and 20 to go!

  • puremalarkey
    puremalarkey Member Posts: 30
    edited March 2016

    Hi y'all, I am joining you after starting radiation treatment on Feb. 29th. It just took me three days to read all 59 pages of posts. I'm having 37 treatments. I'm not sure why and plan to ask when I see the dr. again next Monday. I didn't really want to start this week just two weeks off of chemo. My eyes and nose have been watering all this week. Yesterday when they finished they asked me if I could stay that the counselor wanted to introduce herself. It didn't hit me until later that all of them thought I was crying.

  • Twnkltoz
    Twnkltoz Member Posts: 215
    edited March 2016

    @andra now I wish I'd looked into it more while I was still bald! I know how upsetting it is to struggle through your runs. I ran a marathon in December 2014 and now I'm lucky if I can do a mile. I couldn't do anything but a slow walk all through chemo and I gave up during rads. I'm signed up for the race again this year, so big motivator to get back out on the trail soon! It's not your fault this is happening, so go easy on yourself, but you're allowed to feel frustrated. (((Hugs)))

    The raw skin under my arm is agony. Can't wait for it to start healing!

    THREE MORE!

  • mdoc524
    mdoc524 Member Posts: 336
    edited March 2016

    Hello All - Happy Wednesday! Dorothy & AmyBeader - hope #1 today went smooth for you both -glad you are getting started.. Amy - Wow on the video camera for all to see - I would definitely say something on that! My center's patient changing area is uni-sex - just cubbie's with curtains for you to change into gowns

    Welcome Ag23 .. so sorry you are here but glad you found us - let us know if you get a start date and want to be added above!! My RO is completely different as others have also shared and wants lotion on as frequently as possible - I have 2 to use Calendula Lotion and prescription hydrocortisone cream 2x per day - just nothing within 2 hours of treatment time to make sure it is soaked into skin or it may irritate skin. My RO absolutely swears lotion does not block the radiation beams. I am on #23 and get 4 Zaps and skin pretty red with a few angry spots!

    And Welcome also puremalarky - so sorry you are here but glad you found us .. hope all is going well

    Thanks Twnkltoz - went to Dr after Rads today as I have no voice at all .. it is normal upper respiratory virus going around - lungs were clear - got antibiotic to take in a few days if not better ... have to say really feel like complete crap - not sure if Rads just made it feel worse!

    KarenR - I have not been using deodorant on my treated armpit unless I am going out somewhere to an event or something in public - otherwise I only put it on my non-treated armpit! Thank God it is winter time so armpits not smelly at least to me LOL

    Tessio - Wow - 6 months before exchange for you! Mine said 2-3 months after rads end - we will see if that holds true

    El Tigre - funny how your RO says no boosts due to TE's and I have TE's and getting 6 boosts - the difference between RO's really could drive you insane!!

    Brimton - I get some of my worst chemopause Hot Flashes lying on the Rads table and now tell the tech's not to cover me at all and that has helped .. now the door shuts so don't think I can be seen outside the room! Really hope you are OK from your fall and my RO told me right from the get-go that my heart was clear but about 10% of my lung is in the Radiation area ... I would definitely just let the tech's know how you feel ...

    Andraxo - I would slather on lotion whenever you can just to keep your skin moist. When I started the nurse told me to lotion up all the time and go wide on the treated area!! Sorry you are having issues running - don't be so hard on yourself - I give you major kudos just for getting out and running at all while doing treatment ..

    KateB - agree on the itching - so hard not to scratch

    Sharing a few skin pics - 1st one is my back shoulder blade and 2nd one is CollarBone .. under Foob is the same -- on #23 with 5 regular tx left and then 6 boosts and hoping skin holds

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    Hugs to all

    Mary

  • Twnkltoz
    Twnkltoz Member Posts: 215
    edited March 2016
    Show and tell!

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  • El_Tigre
    El_Tigre Member Posts: 520
    edited March 2016

    mdoc524 - I know so weird how every RO is different. Like the # of treatments too all differ. Here they do boosts on lumpectomies and anyone with reconstruction they steer away from the boosts. Do they do boosts on your nodes or on your breast/chest wall?

  • mdoc524
    mdoc524 Member Posts: 336
    edited March 2016

    Twnkltoz - you are brave - is that a shadow or is that all Rads Redness? Your scar looks good .. ouch in your armpit - hope that is healing!!

    El Tigre - I have my Boost Sim tomorrow and I believe mine is to the Mastectomy Scar area but plan to confirm and will let you know!! It really is crazy how different they all are - from Boosts, # of treatments, what lotion to use or no lotion at all etc ..

  • 7of9
    7of9 Member Posts: 833
    edited March 2016

    Well day 15 of rads and I just found out the good doctor only has me doing 25 rounds instead of 30. Weird I almost felt bummed. Wtf. So far skin doing great, and I do actually enjoy the comradery with the patients before and after me. I am not looking forward to chemo (next) so I have mixed feelings about wrapping this up. I just wish the doctor's would have been aggressive and done rads back in 2012 and maybe I wouldn't be in recurrence hell to begin with.

  • Fearless1956
    Fearless1956 Member Posts: 106
    edited March 2016

    Hello all. Although I don't post much, I've been reading all your posts. I'm thrilled for all of you who have finished recently or who are scheduled to finish soon. I finished up a month ago and so feel for all of you still in the process. Someone else posted recently about not having gone through as much as some of you have and I can totally relate to that. I feel very blessed and I daily ask God to watch over each and every one of you as I know many of you are struggling in your journey.

    The one thing that we all share is the emotional aspect of having cancer. I feel like I'm a strong person overall & face daily life as normally as I can. That's what I want--for life to feel normal. But I know life will never be the same. There are still days that I find it hard to believe that I am a cancer patient. Days that it seems to hit me square in the face all over again and all I want to do is cry. So I'll go have a cry 😂 and then pull up my big girl panties and keep living. I've got a lot to live for and I won't let this beat me!

  • Moondust
    Moondust Member Posts: 510
    edited March 2016

    7of9, I am also doing chemo after rads. What is the reason you are doing it in that order? My reason is because I changed my mind about chemo after doing more research. Glad to hear you are doing okay with rads on day 15! I had day 6 today.

    Mdoc, after you mentioned Joey Feek, I looked it up, because I didn't know about her cancer. I don't follow the news much. Such a beautiful person, inside and out, and what a lovely couple. I was fortunate to see them live a few years ago when they were touring with Zac Brown. I got teary-eyed too, especially watching some of the videos in Rory's blog.

  • Twnkltoz
    Twnkltoz Member Posts: 215
    edited March 2016

    Mary, that's all rads redness! There's still a little dead skin around the rim of the raw skin that probably needs to come off, but I'm waiting for it to scab over.

    @fearless I still have "really? Cancer? Me??" moments. If it weren't for the missing boob, I could almost think it was a bad dream.

  • Kokomo26
    Kokomo26 Member Posts: 64
    edited July 2016

    @Mary....sorry to hear you are having such a rough time with the flu and cough. And its hard to boost your vit c as its an antioxidant we need to avoid on rads. Wishing you a speedy recovery! As luck would have it, I started a itchy sore throat and dry cough last night so tea, lemon and honey and lots of water helped me through today. But I had a harder time reaching my deep breath holds due to dry throat. Anyway, techs said I did well . Had to take 2 different angle xrays first and then the treatment seemed so fast....I was surprised by how quickly it was over. They told me no cream for minimum 2 hours before and after. I had taken my cream to put on right after like some of the ladies do but was told not to. Each place has different rules.....I always wonder why?. Took my Ativan 2 hours before and it really mellowed me out. Hope it lasts till I sleep tonight.

    @KImmer33...Are your skin creams doing a good job for you? Sounds like they are.

  • HappyHammer
    HappyHammer Member Posts: 1,247
    edited March 2016

    Brimton- that last zap sounds awful- so exposed- just makes you feel so vulnerable. What do you mean you fell down the stairs? Are you ok??

  • Brimton
    Brimton Member Posts: 87
    edited March 2016
    MOONDUST The camera is on me in the room with the lead door. The picture goes to a computer screen where the techs sit to give me my zaps. The RO told me she will be hitting the upper portion of my lung. My tumor was on the chest wall so to get down that far it's hit the lung. So really no choice. Weird about the creams kinds when to use or not etc. ANDRAX keep running. Just do what you can. I have continued to excersize all along. I tell you somedays it's like moving through sand... TWNKOLTZ you look pretty good. MDOC hang in there- ouch. We are on the home stretch. YIPEEE!! KATE Glad you are feeling better. Agressive is good! Welcome PURE good advise and support from everyone here.Dancing with LIFE!
  • Brimton
    Brimton Member Posts: 87
    edited March 2016
    Happy Hammer. I was carrying laundry downstairs and slipped. I'm sore on my already bad back and right arm. It will get better... The metal table at rads isn't helping my back but what can you do.
    Today was not too fun. I will say something if it happenes again. I'm just hoping the machine AKA Simone stays functioning so I will be done on the 14 th. My sons birthday is the 15th so much to celebrate!
    How are you??
  • Kimmer33
    Kimmer33 Member Posts: 386
    edited March 2016

    Dorothy, the skin cream has done its job, not having any skin issues. 3 more to go

  • HappyHammer
    HappyHammer Member Posts: 1,247
    edited March 2016

    Brimton- OMGoodness! You have enough to deal with - falling is not good! Glad you are ok but hoping it doesn't hurt too much to be on the metal table. I am doing ok- thanks for asking. Took a few weeks after last rads for skin to heal but looking good now- a bit tanned but, hey...way better than "crispy"!! Take god care!

  • luzeelu
    luzeelu Member Posts: 101
    edited March 2016

    Whew! Miss a couple of days and it's hard to catch up! Congratulations to everyone who's finished! Can't wait to join you!

    Henna head is so cool. What a great thing to do.

    I have a question about the bolus. I get the bolus every time but many of you have said you get it every other time. They do 2 zaps and then come back in the room, put the bolus on me and then do 4 more short zaps. The RO said I needed it but some of you have mentioned how it's too much for your skin.

    I'm also intrigued by how many different lotions and creams everyone is using and all the different opinions of the various ROs. They gave me some aloe gel and it's the only thing I'm supposed to use.

    Today was #10 out of 28. Plodding along...

  • Katja23
    Katja23 Member Posts: 46
    edited March 2016

    7of9, you mentioned you enjoy the comradery with the patients before and after you. So, do others of you also talk with the other patients, especially if you would be seeing the same people for weeks? I just started this week, but I will change my time on Friday, and then it will be regular. I wonder if I should introduce myself to anyone else I see waiting on Friday. Does the new person say "hi" or do others say "hi" to the new person? There is not much time to wait or talk, though. They are pretty efficient and on time where I go, and I will be going early, 7:24 am (switching from 7:28 am), so any patients at this time like me are getting it in before going to work.

  • Kimmer33
    Kimmer33 Member Posts: 386
    edited March 2016

    I also have the bolus every time, for 5 of 7 zaps.

  • Twnkltoz
    Twnkltoz Member Posts: 215
    edited March 2016

    @katja, most of the ladies at my center have been friendly, and everyone chats while we wait for our turn. The lady who has the appointment after me in the same room is on the same schedule, so we will enjoy our last day together on Monday!

  • Moondust
    Moondust Member Posts: 510
    edited March 2016

    I show up 2 minutes before my appt and they take me right in. I've never had time to talk to anyone.

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