January 2016 Chemo!

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  • Smurfette26
    Smurfette26 Member Posts: 730
    edited March 2016

    I always took my steroids at breakfast and lunchtime. Never in the afternoon or evenings. My face always looked puffy from them.

  • Char1110
    Char1110 Member Posts: 61
    edited March 2016

    Jenn: I hope the same thing happens for me.

  • LovesToFly
    LovesToFly Member Posts: 1,133
    edited March 2016

    thank you everybody! I will ask the pharmacist that chemo about taking the second dose at lunchtime instead of dinner, and when I am there I will also ask if they can prescribe Ativan or lorazepam or if I need it. So for I just use Tylenol p.m. for insomnia, but I haven't really had much related to steroids, it's more been thinking too much ( usually just the night before procedures or chemo)

    I have done 3 FEC cycles so far and gained about 3 pounds (cording to the scale at Chemo Clinic, my weight goes up and down a few pounds day by day at home), I'm not really worried about it first of all because that could be just regular fluctuation, and second of all because I'm concerned about a small weight gain weight gain. I just don't want to gain enough that I need to go on a major diet when I'm done this, up to 10 pounds or so is fine ( I lost 50 pounds in 2010, and frankly the last 10 pounds come and go anyway- and I was at a low when I started chemo). Just want to maintain the majority of the weight-loss, enough that I don't need to buy a whole new wardrobe!

  • DFWFLYGIRL
    DFWFLYGIRL Member Posts: 146
    edited March 2016

    Ladies.....should I assume steroids are similar for weekly Taxol also? The steroid weaning is a bit rough now coming off of AC but also use Ativan when needed. Thanks for sharing all the tips and info!!!

  • fightergirl711
    fightergirl711 Member Posts: 300
    edited March 2016

    Edited for FWFLYGIRL:

    LovesToFly (For weekly Taxol) I think the first day is a loading dose; but unfortunately I can't remember, certainly ask. I'm on 8mg the morning of chemo only - I'm on a weekly regimen (12x). They usually taper off the steroids and the Benadryl via IV after a few doses, but I still get the benadryl and pepcid since I had quite the rash the first few weeks and I have weird skin allergies anyway. Nothing major, and it was likely the Perjeta causing the rash, but the infusion nurse says there's no harm to stay on the antihistamines.

    Steroids aren't too bad, you do get a lot done indeed. :) I have been getting acne, then again, I'm sensitive to weird skin stuff. It's really not that bad. It sounds like you were already on them, but 16mg does seem like a lot. I have gained weight (meh) but it could be because it's winter and the food people bring over. :)

    You'll be ok!


  • LovesToFly
    LovesToFly Member Posts: 1,133
    edited March 2016

    no tapering! On FEC I tapered the dex...12mg on chemo day (given at clinic), 8mg for 2 days then 4mg for 1 day.

    With the docetaxol the dex prescription says 2 (4mg) tablets twice a day from day before chemo for 3 days. So it's s much higher dosage and no tapering!!

  • fightergirl711
    fightergirl711 Member Posts: 300
    edited March 2016

    LovesToFly My mistake I'm on Taxol, so dosage could very well be different. But no tapering? I think that would make me a basket case!

  • LovesToFly
    LovesToFly Member Posts: 1,133
    edited March 2016

    I know, right? I have to taper from 8!! I'll ask chemo clinic pharmacist. It was them (not mo) who suggested my current taper.

  • sarah_sunflower
    sarah_sunflower Member Posts: 47
    edited March 2016

    I'm on TC and I have to take steroids (dex) twice a day one day before chemo, for 4 days. I have noticed it causes puffiness, which is terrible with my bald head, and I think it makes me put on weight as well. All three times I have had TC now, I have naticed my arms and thighs getting bigger over the few days I am on steroids. I have also started taking Atvin, for relaxation, it helps with the insomnia.

    Chemo has really made my scalp burn! Its just sooo hot most of the time. And I sweat like crazy, I'm up on the bed in the middle of the night sweating like I had just completed a marathon. Stupid cancer!

  • Smurfette26
    Smurfette26 Member Posts: 730
    edited March 2016

    My chemo nurse advised tapering and gave me some extra tablets.

  • LovesToFly
    LovesToFly Member Posts: 1,133
    edited March 2016

    imagehi ladies. Wanted to share a great brow product. I have been coloring in my brows with a pencil or powder, but recently I received this in the mail, I ordered it weeks ago and had forgotten about it! It is a brow gel and colored. It will not work if you have no brows but if you have the roast in a defined to her you have, and colors in between it. It's very quick to put on, like mascara, and I was blown away by how good it looks!

    http://www.bhcosmetics.com/products/flawless-brow-...

    I will add a picture, with and without the gel:


  • Char1110
    Char1110 Member Posts: 61
    edited March 2016

    Looks great Jill and I love the price! I was planning on get my eyebrows tinted or have my lady apply the wunderbrow for me. I can still get away with penciling in, but I am such a get up and go girl I never feel like it. Chemo has forced me to apply a little more makeup and change up my skin care regimen but I have enjoyed playing around with it.

  • Paxton29
    Paxton29 Member Posts: 221
    edited March 2016

    Hmm ... I'm on TC and while I do think they give me steroids in the bag the day of infusion, I don't have anything to take before. Interesting

  • Sheri64
    Sheri64 Member Posts: 113
    edited March 2016


    Paxton I'm on TC also and only got the Pill steroids the first round, for the second and the next 2 I will have the steroids in the bag the day of infusion.   Anyone else feel like they have to pee all the time but then just a little comes out? 

  • zinny
    zinny Member Posts: 281
    edited March 2016

    I will get big dose Dex on day of Taxol too - but more I'm worried about having an allergic reaction than the Dex, for now. That being said, my weight was stable and has started to climb. IT is the weirdest thing - nothing tastes great after the 4th AC dose, and it feels like the top layer of my mouth tissue is all about to slough off and that's why (not in a painful way) but I keep eating stuff because it is like I get a glimpse of how it should taste and keep trying to get a full flavour. And I am hungry, as in my belly feels growly, but I don't feel like anything. The only thing that tastes good is chocolate chip cookies….oh dear:)

    4th round of AC was definitely harder, felt pretty crap for a few days but I think today I am starting to feel at least a little better:)

    My sweet son had a temp to 39.5 night before last - half his class was away at the end of last week - and a sore throat. I DO NOT want a fever!! Not worried about him, not worried about getting sick ( on neupogen) but do not want to mess up my ski trip plans for the weekend . Trying to figure out the incubation time and hoping for the best!!

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited March 2016

    Hello All

    I am to take 20 mgs of dex 12 hours and 6 hours prior to my Taxol infusion on Monday. I had a severe reaction to my first AC, was hospitalized 6 days. So I'm not sure if it's standard or just me. My last AC, day 8 I finally feel human.

    Does anyone know if Taxol causes nausea? No mention has been made of me taking the fenegran and reglan that have been my saving grace during the AC. I'm on dose dense taxol, every 2 weeks

  • Rockstarteach
    Rockstarteach Member Posts: 20
    edited March 2016

    Loves To Fly you are so brave with all your styles! You gave me courage to take a selfie with my hubby! Two baldies! I still have to wear at least a ball cap out!

    image

  • LovesToFly
    LovesToFly Member Posts: 1,133
    edited March 2016

    rockstar you look gorgeous! Doesn't matter if you ever go ou bald of not!!!!

  • DFWFLYGIRL
    DFWFLYGIRL Member Posts: 146
    edited March 2016

    Beautiful Rockstar!!

  • zinny
    zinny Member Posts: 281
    edited March 2016

    Valstim - gloriously, there is apparently no nausea with Taxol:) Aches, yes, taste changes, yes, but no nausea. I am hitting day 7 after the 4th AC and just starting to feel human too- though it is 4am and I am wide awake!!!

  • buttaflydiva
    buttaflydiva Member Posts: 88
    edited March 2016

    im so looking forward to finishing this last AC Friday and having no nausea with taxol. I still don't know if were going to do taxol does dense every 3 weeks or the 12 weekly treatments yet. im going to meet wit my doctor before treatment Friday and make a decision.

  • fightergirl711
    fightergirl711 Member Posts: 300
    edited March 2016

    No nausea with Taxol at all! In fact thanks to the dex I've gained about 10 pounds in 3 months. Suck on ice chips during infusions, that seems to help with taste. Some minor neuropathy kicking in around Round #8 (weekly). One weird side effect for me any way was that I noticed tingling and numbness in my face, especially in my forehead, nose and scalp. Did lose about 65% of my hair, so I shaved it, but not completely bald, so you may even get hair growth.

    Also, drink a TON of water. I get a burning sensation while urinating, tested for UTI twice and it came back negative. This very well may be a fluke but I noticed if I constantly drink water it goes away.

    This week is #9 out of 12 total. I'll be looking to all of you for AC tips and support when that starts, very frankly that's been my worst fear, is the Adriamycin / Cytoxan combo. I'll start that two weeks after Taxol / Herceptin / Perjeta combo end later this month. I think I may stick with the three week schedule for that so I'm not totally dragging and can get outside for spring.

  • ladyhumps
    ladyhumps Member Posts: 79
    edited March 2016

    I was given nausea meds to use but fortunately haven't had any. Don't know if it's true but I've read that if you had morning sickness or car sickness you were more likely to have nausea. I guess it was true in my case, though. I hope you don't!

    Also, I switched from Biotin toothpaste to a regular one, seemed to help the slimy feeling and some of the taste issues I was having. Still using the water, baking soda, & salt mixture to rinse with.

    No treatment today due to lingering neuropathy, it seems to lessen or worsen depending on resting or moving around. It's mostly in my hands, but sometimes my feet. I went to the store last night and by the time I got home maybe 90 minutes later, my foot was tingling bad. Anyone else having neuropathy, does this happen to you? Will see the dr next week to discuss another reduction or switching to something else. In the meantime instead of taking glutamine for 3 days after treatment I'm taking it every day along with B6.

    Edit: I thought I was posting in the weekly Taxol group but I'll leave this here.

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited March 2016

    DFWFLYGIRL d

    My MO wants to do dose dense Taxol with me as I have IBC. They want as much in my as possible and as quickly as possible. Additionally, I have allergic reactions to things, and the 12 week regimen would increase my chances of having an allergic reaction and having to stop chemo. So dose dense it is. After AC, I feel I can handle anything. It was awful. Just saying.

    I picked up some tips from the weekly Taxol group to suck on ice chips which I will do for sure. Also they said to seriously hydrate as it can cause immediate bladder irritation, but I think they all do.

  • buttaflydiva
    buttaflydiva Member Posts: 88
    edited March 2016

    fightergirl-how about the Herceptin and perjeta, what were your side effects with those and was there anything you did to manage those? im doing my last AC Friday and the best advice I can give you on that is continue what you are doing by drinking plenty of water, start taking your nausea meds before nausea hits (I start the morning after infusion), take them on schedule, and by all means if your nausea meds don't work for you ask your doctor to switch to something else. also eat small meals every few hours. some have no issues with AC, some do everyone is different. I think most would agree that days 3-5 are probably the hardest, but they are manageable. I was able to work days 5 and 6(day 3 fell on sunday when I was off work)

  • JCS28
    JCS28 Member Posts: 153
    edited March 2016

    I know several people have posted about rashes and other skin problems. This week (had third Taxotere last week), I have these little itchy, irritated bumps mostly on my chest. They are itchy and then I scratch them and then they have a little scab. Anyone else? They remind me of mosquito bites that I've scratched too much. I have tried lots of different lotions. It's not just awful, but if anyone has any ideas or way to prevent next time, I'd love to hear it.

    This is my third Taxotere/Herceptin/Perjeta, and it's been the easiest so far. I have several minor SEs but nothing major -- minor mouth sores, minor reflux, fatigue at the end of the day. It doesn't make sense to me, but I'll take it!

  • LoveMyVizsla
    LoveMyVizsla Member Posts: 813
    edited March 2016

    JCS, it's folliculitis. My MO prescribed clindimycin for it. It has helped, but I have two new spots this morning.

    Fightergirl, I'm on 3 week AC and am able to get out and feel pretty normal in that third week.

  • LoveMyVizsla
    LoveMyVizsla Member Posts: 813
    edited March 2016

    Anybody have bruising in the vein your port catheter is in? Mine is greenish this morning. I didn't do anything strenuous yesterday. Maybe I slept on it wrong.

  • kellychameleon
    kellychameleon Member Posts: 100
    edited March 2016

    Hi all - I'm late in joining but just found this thread.  I started chemo in January and had my last AC last Tuesday (woo hoo!)  I start Taxol next Tuesday and will have four treatments every other week.  It feels really good to be at the halfway point.

    Someone a page or two back mentioned having nausea due to associations (like passing the hospital where you have chemo), and I have that so bad.  Even when I'm feeling well, certain smells and specific things will really affect me.  The weirdest one was opening up my sock drawer, and seeing my "comfy socks" that I wear to chemo - the thought of putting them on made my physically ill.  It's such a strange phenomenon.


  • mltdd
    mltdd Member Posts: 87
    edited March 2016

    LoveMyVizsla - I usually have soreness a couple of days after the port is used. Not necessarily bruising, but the vein seems to stick out more.

    For all of those with taste issues. I have finally found a water i can drink. It's called Suja. I got the raspberry flavor but they have several others including a lemon ginger that may be helpful for nausea. They were on sale 2 for $4 at my local Target.


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