Winter 2015-16 RADS
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Marijen, I had higher dose per treatment doing the Canadian style fractionation. I had 16 whole breast at 266cG or 4,256 cG total, I had a boost for five days at 200 cG per dose using electrons for an additional of 1000 cG to the tumor bed. I had three different RO's prescribed the shorter Canadian fractionation and boost. I feel quite confidant that my treatment was appropriate for my body and my cancer characteristics. I hope you are feeling confidant as well.
I saw my MO today and my BC nurse navigator. I was given a treatment summary and a suvivorship care plan. So far I haven't had any SE's from Arimidex and hoping I won't get any in the future! I'm settling in to my new normal and it feels good not to be focused on BC. My MO said she would see me every 3-4 months for the next two years, then 6 months for 3 years, then annually. I'm really starting to look forward to spring!
I hope you ladies enjoy some rest this weekend!
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Twnkltoz. I am using Miaderm. I like how it goes on but I do not like the smell once it's been on a while. It smells to me like I need a shower. Did you get it with the lidocaine or without? I'm still in my first week, so no lidocaine needed yet.
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@moondust I don't know! My fiance ordered it for me. I didn't know that was an option.
I have a big patch of dying skin under my arm, and part of it is raw. It's miserable. Just one more whole breast treatment, thank God, then on to boosts. No more bolus.
Had a little break down tonight. I started thinking about how unfair this disease is, and all I lost/missed out on the past eight months. I know others have lost so much more, but I'm feeling very sad.
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Finished treatment on Thursday -- yay! Thankfully there was no bell to ring, but one of the techs did give me a certificate after I was finished. The fatigue had hit me hard during the past week so I didn't have the energy to be very excited. "Don't worry," I told her, "I'll be excited tomorrow when I have a chance to get more sleep." The RO saw me after last visit just to check out my skin and said it was doing really well. I go back in a month for a follow-up, but he told me to call them if I had any issues in the meantime. He said to continue to use the Radiaplex for another week or two, then switch to cocobutter. Afterwards I drove to my favorite donut place and enjoyed one before heading in to work. The fatigue was so bad that I ended up going home at 2 pm.
Haven't had any soreness in my shoulder or incision areas. I attribute that to yoga; started going to classes around the same time I started rads. All the stretching apparently did some good! I've only had one small spot of 'weepiness' in the boost area that just opened up today. I'm going to keep an eye on it but am not too worried about it at the moment.
The thing I'm happiest about is getting to sleep later again. I normally wake up around 7 am, but had to reset to 6 am for the radiation treatments. I am NOT a morning person in any sense of the word, so getting to 'sleep in' again for an extra hour is what I a looking forward to the most.
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I am a bit late to the party but most of my rads will be in Winter. I started Wednesday so am 3 of 33 rads done. My breast has been red and warm from the first treatment--asked my RO about it and she said it's from the surgery. Whatever--like I haven't been intimately aware of my breast and every nuiance over the last 10 weeks. I have loved my cancer team up until now. Honestly have no confidence in my RO, but my MO and BS both recommended her, so I am hoping she knows her stuff enough for me to survive the next 6 weeks and move on. I do like the techs I see daily and that's what matters.
I did have a breakdown Wednesday--had my first treatment and then came home and cried. Realized there is an exposure element and vulnerability to radiation that there isn't with chemo and surgery. With chemo I am snuggled up in my recliner, possibly with pillow and blanket, and with surgery I am unconscious. But with radiation I am laying on a small, flat, hard surface, floating in mid air in a large, cool room, completely topless. (I am covered with a small towel, but that first day the techs were in and out a lot making adjustments and playing connect the dots in Sharpie on my chest.) And just have to endure it. Processed that and the next two days went much smoother. I understand why the tech team is one female and one male (can you even imagine prostate radiation?!), but I had to come to terms with the male tech. Don't know why--my OBGYN, Primary Dr., MO, and PS are all male. And they have all thoroughly felt my breasts! This tech never touches me, except by Sharpie. But again, I think it was the overall exposure feel of the room. He is very task oriented while the ladies are very sweet and comforting--that could also be a factor, but I think I prefer his professionalism over him being "friendly." Anyway, Thursday was better, and today felt like just another treatment on my way to being done. So I think I found my radiation groove.
My RO was adament I not use Aquafor. She recommended Cetaphil--tried that the first two days and the heat was just too much. I am just using alcohol-free Aloe Vera gel from CVS now. At least my PS cleared me for ibuprofen this week! Hopefully that helps. -
Hi Everyone.
I've just read five pages of posts and am sorry to hear of the problems some of you are having regarding nausea, pain, tightness, anxiety, fatigue and privacy issues. I know I am unique in this forum because I did not have a MX or chemotherapy and cannot possibly imagine the toll those treatments have taken physically and emotionally. None the less, the prospect of radiation was very frightening for me and like some of you had mentioned, I cried after my first session, probably due to fear of the unknown and seemingly a cold reception from the techs...I slathered on aquaphor immediately afterward and awaited terrible side effects.
For those of you who are just starting I want you to know that I have completed 15 of 26 whole breast rads (with 7 boosts planned to follow) and so far I have not had any side effects except for an increased appetite for protein and extremely mild nipple sensitivity, hardly worth mentioning.
Daily Routine: I awake at 5:30 AM, dress and make my post-rad smoothie to go: banana, PB powder, almond milk, walnuts, Kefir, benefiber, and ice. I get rads at 7AM, use aquaphor afterwards, drink my smoothie on the way to work, work until 6:30. When I get home I bike for at least an hour on my stationary (approximately 16 miles). I shower and apply miaderm (without lidocaine), then eat dinner (protein packed: turkey burger, egg whites, almond milk, cottage cheese, and green smoothie) read and go to bed around 10:30. I wear only soft camisoles since surgery 2 months ago. My radiation plan is 6080cGY total.
If any of you are experiencing pre-rad or early rad anxiety, please know that the experience is not horrible for everyone. I expect things to get worse; but, it goes quickly. Try to keep positive and stick to a routine as much as possible.
This too shall pass...
My favorite prayer: God grant me the SERENITY to accept the things I cannot change, the COURAGE to change the things I can and the WISDOM to know the difference. When I pray, I pray for all of us to gain these attributes!
Hope you all have a wonderful weekend...Spring is near!
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@mdoc - Welcometo the stripper club!
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Seeking Serenity thank you so much for your post. I have been very nervous about starting radiation. Your words and experience has helped calm me.
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TwinklToz, I'm so sorry to hear that you've been feeling sad. This cancer stuff is awful. I try not to think about it at night, because that's when I'm tired and most vulnerable to negative thoughts. Pain and discomfort never helps, either. Do something nice for yourself! I hope you are feeling more positive now. Every day without the disease is a day to celebrate. Once you are healed up from all this, you'll be able to enjoy your days more.
SeekingSerenity, welcome. I did not have Mx or chemo either. At least not yet. I like your idea of bringing your smoothie with you. What do you put it in so it doesn't leak? If I bring one, I'll have to keep it in a cooler because I have a 1 hour drive to rads. I eat high protein also. I wonder if it helps with skin. You have a super busy schedule! I get 15,000 steps a day but not all at once.
Quiddler, hooray for finishing rads! And hooray for sleep.
Musogirl, welcome. I hope it gets easier to tolerate all the nakedness and feeling of exposure as you continue. I'm not bothered by it, probably because I'm older and don't really give a crap what anyone thinks of me. It is uncomfortable to have my arm up because I have an arthritic elbow, but it's not terrible.
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thank you, @moondust! I do feel better today. I took an ativan last night to help me let it go and sleep, then had some fun today. That helped!
I feel bad for being such a negative Nelly lately. I was so positive through chemo and surgery. I need to buck up.
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So... I'm sick. Body aches, chills, a cough, and a low-grade fever (101.5). I spent yesterday sleeping and didn't take my temp, but today started feeling worse. Here's my question: my RO doesn't really have a line to call like my MO does (and the chemo people were adamant that I call if my temp went above 100.5), so is it safe to just wait it out and talk to my RO at tomorrow's appointment?
Ugh. I knew I was getting the ick. Sad face.
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KateB79, call the MO's office or the onc on call... even though you're doing rads, your MO is still the doc over all of the others with regard to this issue... at least that what my center always tells me...Praying you feel better quick!
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KarenR0618 I'm glad that what I said helps. If you read my post from my first day of radiation you would see how quickly fear set in for me and if I could prevent that from happening to everyone else my prayers would be answered. On weeknights I read novels by authors such as Marie Boswick, Nancy Thayer and Mary Alice Monroe. Their stories are about places I've been or hope to visit and they take me away. Overnight I sometimes dream of the characters and I usually think about them when I am having rads. I do not come to this site during the week. I give cancer 1 hour each weekday morning and then catch up with all that is going on here for a limited time on the weekends. I am offering cancer a minor and temporary role in my life. The mind is a very powerful weapon and we should use it to our advantage!
Moondust Thanks for the welcome! I see that our diagnosis are the same, I will be starting on Tamoxifen when I am finished with rads. I also see that you exercise which to me is like a drug because I am addicted, makes me feel strong and healthy, I imagine you feel the same. Every morning I pack three drinks for the day including a 25 oz bottle of ice water in a Hydracentials bottle from Amazon, a Thermos Container with a hot drink and my Nutri Ninja Smoothie. I place all three side by side in a Sachi insulated lunch tote I bought a while ago on QVC and they keep each other upright. I zip up the top as far as it goes, have never has a spill. It's cold here so at 6:30-7:30 in the morning everything stays cold in the car. I haven't needed to add an ice pack; but, I could if necessary.
KateB79 Sorry to hear you are sick. My RO gave me his home phone # and told me to call with any and all concerns. I suggest you call the Radiation Clinic and give your information to the answering service; otherwise, call your MO or PCP. That way if any treatment, such as an antibiotic is in order you can get started. I would call immediately, do not wait it out. Pamper yourself today and drink drink drink!
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I called my MO's office, and spoke to one of my favorite fellows (it's a teaching hospital) there. He said it sounds just like the flu, that this year's flu is bad, and not to worry unless my fever goes above 103. Right now it's hovering right at 101.
I'm going to ask my RO for Tamiflu when I see him in the morning. I'm under the impression that the flu doesn't stop zaps. . . . But it looks like I'm canceling class tomorrow. I bet my students will enjoy their day off.
I'm off to bed.
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Kate- feel better soon- rest and fluids as much as possible!
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I hope you feel better Kate. The flu is bad here. My husband, daughter and two granddaughters have had it. I have been hiding from it. I hope it doesn't find me.
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KateB79, I asked the techs if I got sick what should I do - and they said come anyways.
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@kate I'm so sorry you're sick! I hope you feel better soon. You might consider wearing a surgical mask to rads, if you have one, so you don't spread it.
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KateB79- If you go for your treatment and they see how sick you are they might provide you with some medical help unlike what you would have at home. You might require a IV to increase fluids in your system which might help. If you are vomiting then they can give you further medications.
My thoughts last week were as I was on the table what if I sneeze or what happens if one is sick. I have a fear of moving when I am on the table. I have counted in my head 20 seconds blast then a break then another 20 4 times.
This Wednesday my machine is down for cleaning so I get a day added at the end.
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Oh Twnkltoz, I wish I could just give you a hug....I know very well how your feel....I was in breakdown mode all day yesterday...crying at everything....fed up with the whole situation. Angry and just pissy...at everything....even writing out the bills made me cry.....what a mess.....so believe me you are not the only one.....I sympathize completely........
I now know what they mean by the redness and burning being cumulative...I woke up yesterday with the worst burns and pain....had to take pain meds...all day....I didnt know Miaderm came with lidocaine , or I would have ordered it....just got a tube and I only have 6 more boosts to go,,,,so I cant afford to buy another tube.....but Jesus have Mercy....Im crisp.....someone mentioned cabbage leaves, so I will have DH go get one tomorrow.....do you just place it on the breast?....perhaps when they see me tomorrow they will RX me some silvadene cream...not sure....
Durham, Im so glad everthing turned out not to be DVT.....now I have to look up the thrombophlebitis and see what thats all about......
All you ladies are in my prayers every day.....I pray all the time.....
Appetite is back today...ate like a piggy all day.....just couldnt stop....went thru half a banana nut loaf by myself.....with a nice cuppa tea......
Sleep well my Friends.......tomorrow starts everything all over again.......goodnight...
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Sisterfriends....am still on this board after finishing rads in mid Jan just in case I can be of help/ Prayed for all of every time I had rads and continue to do so now- Crispy? Goodness...had that and the itching and very emotional the entire time of rads as it is such a vulnerable position to be in and the whole half naked thing to boot!
Cabbage leaves- wash individual leaves and pat dry- store in fridge....put one on affected breast- you will prob feel the "heat" transfer from breast to cabbage leaf- keep in place until no longer cool...it really DOES help- apparently there is a chemical reason for this- never researched it because I was desperately looking for help and found great relief with this very cost effective treatment :0)
Hugs to you all!!
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After treatment has anyone had a reaction weeks or months later? If so what did you do for this reaction? Is common? I will be traveling after my treatment to a different country.
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MisV123 - I so agree on the burn and pains. I started feeling the same thing this weekend along with wanting to itch everywhere. I have been applying hydrocortisone cream but it only lasts so long. I will be trying the cabbage leaves this week. I have 10 more regular treatments with 5 of them being with the bolus (ouch) and then 5 boosts. I hope my skin holds out.
Twinkltoz - I can so relate to what you are feeling and sending you virtual hugs. I have a survivorship meeting this week that I did not realize was scheduled. Not quite sure how I feel about that or exactly what they will cover.
Hope everyone is rested and geared up for another week. We all got this and I will be thinking of each and everyone of you every day.
Connie
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I completely agree with what others are saying about rads being an emotional time. Honestly, this has been harder than chemo for me, emotionally if not physically, and per usual, it's reassuring to know that I'm not the only one.
During chemo, I had meltdowns, which always felt good, at least afterwards. This is more of a low-grade, always there beneath the surface, kind of unease. I hesitate to call it depression, but maybe it is?
There is something so very vulnerable about lying on that cold table every day, about being moved around by the techs, about the machine spinning around and making its sounds... In chemo, the nurses were always there; there was a 24 hour number to call; everyone there was very warm. This is a different story.
All of this is a long way of saying 'me too.'
I'm told that I have a virus, and not to worry. If it doesn't get better (it already is getting better), I'm to see my primary care doc. My RO says I don't need boosts (yay!), and that we're doing the last five zaps with no bolus (yay!), to preserve my skin--i will have had 20 zaps with the bolus, which I guess is kind of a lot.He's happy with how well I'm caring for my skin, and I think he wants to do everything he can to make sure it doesn't break down.
I'm trying cabbage leaves later today!
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Congrats to Shopgal and Quiddler on finishing!!!
JerseyGirl, is today your last one??
I had my port removed last Thursday and I did take the day off work. Woke up early the next morning after the numbness wore off and it was pretty sore so I took Friday off as well. Unfortunately for me, that was the day my co-workers planned my end of rads party ?? lol Oh well, I hear they enjoyed it.
My last day of rads was 2/16 and I can officially say that my skin is almost completely back to normal. Not sure if I mentioned that my RO suggested I use Domeboro but I must say that really helped these last couple of weeks. Tip though, get the name brand because I don't think the storebrand dissolved as well.
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I made it through my first week of rads. Like Kate, I also got sick (thankfully, mine was just a cold). I had a major coughing fit on the table Tuesday and they had to make sure I was still lined up OK. The tech told me to go ahead and cough but don't move my arms. I made it through chemo without even a sniffle and now this stupid cold is dragging on! Hopefully this week will be better.
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congrats to those who have finished!
I'm still catching up on this board. Kate I hope you feel better soon.
Justmaximom I can't wait to have my port removed. It'll be awhile for me but I bet it feels great not to have that foreign object in your chest.
6 more for me, no boosts, skin holding up well. I have discoloration where my nipple used to be but my RO says that is normal and will go back after treatment. I had some armpit chafing or irritation but I stuck to loose fitting clothes and that subsided.
I find this step emotional because it's the last step in this process and afterwards we wait. I can see how the radiation treatment room could be isolated and cold compared to the chemo set up but I find this step as warm and friendly as chemo. The girl at check in knows my name and I meet and compare experiences with other women in the back changing room/ waiting room unlike In chemo when others were depressed or sick or just wanted to sleep. The RN's pay music I like and always worry about their cold hands on me, lol. They pimp the warm blankets daily and ask if we would like anything to drink as well as offer free lotion.
I saw today my office has a Dr. Hung lol
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justmaximom15.... one more to go, tomorrow is my last rads!!! Yay!
Kate, feel better soon, get lots of rest.... It's funny, We're like some weird cancer twins separated by birth ad 10 years. I was getting ready to write the same type of post about how rads has hit me... You said it beautifully.... I've had amazing techs, my RO is lovely, and the nurses are too nice for words, but I still feel emotionally more drained with rads than I did with chemo... It's like a slow burn, if you will, no pun intended there. Can't wait until tomorrow is done and I can ring the heck out of that bell and walk out of the center for a few weeks without any appointments...
Warrior On! Tomorrow I get all my tech for the Apple/Polaris study, so that'll be a nice end to rads and start of something positive.
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This will be my last week. 5 boosts left, if my tissue expander doesn't pop off first. It is so tight right now. If I could go back in time, no tissue expander! Reconstruction later, yes, but why did the doctors sell me on the tissue expander? Sorry, back to RADs.
I have found RADs much more emotional than chemo too. I'm wondering where to heal. RAD recovery nudist colony with cabbage leaf bikini tops.
We can do it!
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Happy Monday All – hope everyone had a nice weekend – too short as usual! Hugs to all those (KateB & VickiRides) fighting the not so fun Flu/Sinus/Cold Virus I think the world has.. I got it about 10 days ago – lasted a few days and now this morning woke up with the sore throat tickle again and body aches – AAAHHHH ..#21 for me today and put a fork in me my skin is done- increasing prescription cream and calendula .. fingers crossed nothing opens up
Reminder to All – The info on using Cabbage leaves is in the above Tips info ..
WooHoo Congrats Quiddler – Happy Healing and enjoy your extra hour of sleep!
Welcome Welcome Musosgirl – so sorry you are here but so glad you found us! I think a lot of us feel the same way about Rads – glad you found your groove!
WooHoo JerseyGirl and Tessio – hope your last days go well!!
Andraxo – Good for you on speaking up to the techs & agree feels like a production line sometimes & we are seen as a number – frustrating and also sad!
violethope – Good Luck on Thursday – glad you are getting started
Connie – I am also so so itchy – the worst areas for me are back shoulder blade and under my Foob .. feeling a little cooked! So agree at how fast it is going – chemo seemed to crawl for me! I am bringing something for the Rads Team – thinking either cookie tray or maybe a basket of Easter Candy since that is coming up and pretty easy!
Diane – funny about the twin thing! I am a fraternal twin of course with a twin brother – he is my best friend! My Mom did not know she was having twins and delivered us at 27 weeks – he came out first and was her 4th boy and doctors told her there was another one in there and it was me. They said we would not live past a few days and here we are… 46 years later! He was 3 lbs and I was 2lbs. My identical twin boys were born at 32 weeks and were just a little under 6 lbs each! Twins are great!
mairew – Congrats on getting thru Week 1 – hope smooth sailing thru the rest for you!
Twnkltoz – So many hugs to you – it is perfectly OK to feel sad/angry over what this disease has taken from us – we all have these moments… Also I use California Baby Calendula cream (Calendula is in Miaderm) – found it the cheapest at walmart.com.
SeekingSerenity – love your post & echo it! Could not have said it better and love your prayer! Thanks for sharing
Peabrain – HaHa on the Stripper Club – need a pole in the Rads waiting room LOL
Tessio – I too was sold on Reconstruction and TE's at the time of BMX – at the time all signs were pointing to less than 1cm tumor and never imagined at that time that I would still have my TE's a year later.. they are not fun with Rads and my PS said no implant exchange for at least 2-3 months post Rads ..
Hugs to all - Have a great week!
Mary
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