Why do you think you are high risk?
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Actually Nutty Nicki, I think this thread is very informative for all of us. I find it very helpful to read why others believe they are at high risk for recurrence. It is a fear we all have and it is good to be able to talk about it. It can also be helpful to those that may not be aware of some of the ways to reduce our risk.
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Let's see...
I am high risk because:
I was premenopausal when diagnosed
I had a grade 3 tumor
I am Her2+
I had my first and only child at 37
I am the 12th person on my mom's side of the family to get bc (BRCA1 & BRCA2 negative)
I have very dense breasts and the mamo did not pick up my cancer
I had a benign lump removed in my early 30's (close to where they found my cancer)
When I picked up my medical records to take to Stanford for a second opinion, my doc wrote: High risk node negative, Her2+++ patient (He is always very positive with me, though)
I still feel blessed and hopeful.
Karen -
Just thinking about it makes me start to get panicky!
I was premenopausal when my cancer was found
I had multi focal cancer
I was stage 3C
I had 27 of 32 nodes positive
One of my positive nodes had extranodal involvement
Im triple negative, which means there are no great new post treatment drugs for me to go on
I took birth control pills for many years
I started my period at 11 years old
Im very overweight
Im out of shape
I eat real butter and red meat
I heat up foods in the microwave in plastic
I use Styrofoam cups
I got cancer once, and that is the biggest indicator that I will get it again
Heck, today I am feeling so pessimistic maybe I should just roll over and die it would save the cancer the trouble of coming back!!
I guess being alive is a risk factor. I just try (and usually fail miserably) not to think about it too much. Sigh .
Deb C. -
I like this thread too, scary to learn things that I hadn't considered, but informative.
Had my 3 month with my onc last week and asked her about the low-fat diet connection for hormone neg. She's a big believer in exercise (regardless of hormone status), and her take on it was, "was it because it was low-fat, or was it because they lost weight?" but her bottom line was, healthy diet (which by definition is low-fat, whole grains, low sugar, lots of veggies, etc.) and exerice are better than unhealthy diet and no exercise. At that point, we were just talking common sense I guess....
Bottom line for me, feel high risk for recurrence now due to status of existing cancer and my age (lots of time left to get mets!) Knowing they are always working on more research is one of the things that keeps me going... My hope is no recurrence/mets, but if that does happen, my second hope is progress in treatment.
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I don't know....I exercised and have stayed a healthy weight most of my life and still got bc. Although I haven't exercised regulary in the past 6-8 months, I don't know if it will make a difference as far as recurrence or not. However, I know I should start again and it's good for many reasons !!! And I could definately change my eating habits (for more reasons than one)! As far as the bilateral masectomy decision...I had a bilat tram flap and had dcis w/comedo necrosis in left breast. Right one was fine. BUT, I am glad I did it so that I could have some peace of mine. Based on all the research I had done, I felt this was the best for me. I have no regrets. AND THEY MATCH!
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The colon cancer outcomes which were very positive for no reuccurance with exercise suggest something more than low fat or losing weight. That reinforces it for me. Remember a major study did not support the high fiber lower icidence concept of colon cancer. Exercise seems powerful even though we all know there are women on this site who did it and got BC.
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Why I think I am at high-risk for recurrence:
Path report reads "prognosis poor, unfavorable"
Was told I had a very aggressive cancer and
am at high-risk
Stage IIIA
grades mostly 3's
HER2 positive +++
ER/PR negative
7 of 20 nodes positive
on Prepro for several years
weight fluctuates as well as diet
have cooked in plastic in microwave
grew up in industial town with high polution
many nodules found in lungs, but thought not to be cancer
maternal grandmother had bc (in her 80's) -
Hmmm...
I have dense breasts, so I beleive my lump was missed for a while (I never felt it!!)
Nodes 17/24, one of those puppies was big. I beleive that it worked in trapping the bad cells. escaped cells in the arm pit.
Her2 +++
ER/PR+
I had just turned 40 when dx.
Had my first children at 34 (twins)
My mom had BC
I drink wine
What I have in my favor..
1 year of Herceptin
Ovaries out/Femara
Taxol/AC/Rads
I eat healthy (did before)-TONS of veggies and organic when I can. No dairy or soy
I drink only red wine now
I exercise almost daily (taught Jazzercise for 12 years before, took 1 year off- BC)
Janis
Still think it is a crap shoot. Some days I think I dodged the bullet, other days I think it is a matter of When not IF. -
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Hmmm...
Janis
Still think it is a crap shoot. Some days I think I dodged the bullet, other days I think it is a matter of When not IF.
I feel exactly the same way. Each day is a psychological/emotional roller coaster and not a ride to be enjoyed.
I feel at high risk -
- started menses age 12
- Fibroadenoma removed at age 19
- Very petite and low body weight and recently read article identifying this as risk factor.
- Took OC pills for 10 years
- No children
- BC diagnosed at age 49 pre-menopause, ER+, PR+, HER2-neg, Stage 2A, IDC 1.8cm and 1+ node.
- Dense breast tissue and unable to feel lump. Three doctors (gyn, onc, surgeon) plus me could not feel the lump and I am small breasted. It was detected on mammogram screening and I am thankful the radiology oncologist had sharp eyes to detect it!
However, this makes me very uncomfortable for the future and I am seriously considering bilateral mast. I am in the process of scheduling ooph since I'm ER+100% and PR+100% and want to take AIs. Currently on Tamoxifan but again uncomfortable due to family hx of strokes and uterine fibroids. So I want to make the medication switch ASAP to avoid serious SE.
It's really rather frustrating after gone through lumpectomy, chemo, radiation and now ooph plus medication to still feel so unprotected. The sad part is my lumpectomy was very successful with minimal scar so cosmetically I should be thrilled. Instead I view my breast as ticking time bombs and wonder when the explosion will occur again. After doing all I can then the rest is in God's hands. Joann -
I didn't think I was at high risk for reoccurance until I went for my post-treatment mammo and I have a thick area in my right breast that they want to keep an eye on. Had lumpectomy in left breast in March, followed by chemo and rads. Had 2 positive nodes. My weight has come down and I'm determined to keep it down. But what is this about not using styrofoam cups? I go to lots of meetings and that's what the coffee is served in! Please fill me in! If I need to start packing my own coffee mug, I'll do so ASAP!! What else can we do -- give up meat, white sugar? Is anyone actually doing all this? Brigitte
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Why I think I am at high risk?: Mother had Uterine, Breast & Lung cancer , all diganosed pre-menopausal in that order, which she succumbed to the last one 18 yrs. ago. I got my first period at age 10. The birth of my first child was at age 20. I smoked from age 15 to 35. Diagnosed with DCIS at age 40. Now have Atypical cells found in same breast, after 2 lumpectomies & radiation the first time 4 yrs ago.I am now considering a bi-lateral mastectomy to prevent further diagnosis. I have always been healthy, have excercised, ate pretty healthy.As I said, Mom had bad history of cancer, Father has prostrate cancer for the second time, daughter had cancer, neuroblastoma stage 4 at 3 yrs old. Had BMT, doing very well. Cancer is all around me. I believe it is inevitable it will return. I need to be pro-active in my steps to prevent its return. Also considering ovarie removal. Thanks for listening! Jackie
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why I think I am at risk ....
I had Inflammatory breast cancer at the age of 35
pre-menopausal
I had two tumors of IDC - the bigger of the two did not show up until after dose dense AC x6...it was found during my double mastectory
I also had high grade DCIS (8/9)
ER+/PR+ and HER2+++
but....I have fought it aggressivly...and now...18 months from dx I am back to work full time and NED!
Tina -
Why I think I'm high-risk:
I've had bc once
I'm ER/PR+
Invasive- 2 out of 11 nodes
Had lumpectomy instead of masc.
Smoked 30 years
Took birth control pills
And prolly a bunch of other things. But I simply refuse to get mets. Denial? Maybe. I just have a gut feeling.
Oh yeah, 2 sisters with bc
Father & brother died of cancer
I'm not leting it take me, too. It's taken too many people I love. I simply refuse.
Cheri -
I have gone over this in other forums and here it is in here too:
I know I am at High Risk because:
1. I carry the BRCA2+ mutation
2. My father had BC at 52
3. Paternal Grandmother had BC at age 48
4. I am overweight
5. Family origin is Eastern Europe and we are Jewish
6. Started menses at 12
7. Had my first child at 34
8. Two paternal cousins who had ovarian cancer
9. Have been on low-dose estrogen for 4 years since bilat ooph
10. Have very dense breast tissue
11. Prone to cysts
I know there also must be more as well but I am trying to do something positive about prevention.
Beth -
At high risk, had positive mammo approx. 5mm area found, positive ultrasound that ruled out cyst on DEC 18th,06,biopsy done on 12/26/06, awaiting biopsy pathology report. Am status post DCIS, stage 0, had lumpectomy f/b radiation EIGHT years ago. Took the bull by the horn and made my own appointments to a Breast CAncer Center at a local hospital in my area. They're seeing me this Thurs. 1/4/07. Have picked up all my previous films, ultrasound etc. and medical records, PATH RESULT pending. I expect the worse scenario. Lost a son 2004 and nothings the same. Maybe this is a sign!!!
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I just recieved my pathology report. ALH , bordering on LCIS. I am seeing a surgeon who specializes in breast cancer, on 1/9. She is the head of surgery & oncology, will be able to define my risks, and help me to act on them.Will go from there.Jaxson
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Much like Cheri123, in risk factors and beliefs too.
OBESE all my life (but quite happy when I'm around 200 lbs, just trying to get back there)
Smoked around 27 years, 1 1/2 pack per day, menthol (quit right before starting chemo 8/04)
Nodes 2 positive of 14
An area of DCIS found beside the IDC, probably more.
Lumpectomy
ER/PR + , took Tamoxifen 13 months, took a 2 month holiday, then started Arimidex, then ovaries started working again, which meant I was unprotected for about 2 months while on Arimidex. (but I've had the hysterectomy/ooph and still taking Arimidex)
Years on bc pills, then on meds for polycystic ovaries (which is another story)
Diet & exercise isn't very good, but I'm working on it. I lost the 35 pounds I gained during chemo etc.
Her neg (guess that's good and bad)
Exposed to radiation & other toxic substances for over 20 years at work.
42 at diagnosis
father died of lung cancer
maternal grandmother died of cancer, but the primary souce is unknown
But, like Cheri said, I have a 'gut feeling' about this. A few weeks ago, right out of the clear blue, I had this gut feeling that it was gone, and bc wasn't coming back, not as recurrence and not as mets. It's hard to explain, it was like a spiritual revelation. Anyways, I'm going on faith that it's gone, and won't be back. If I'm wrong, then I've not wasted one day worrying about what is out of my control. I hope my peace of mind remains with me til the end. -
1. Tumor seemed to come out of nowhere, found it myself in June, was 5cm. Spread to 3 lymph nodes.
2. Was 39 at diagnosis
3. Took BC pills for years.
4. No children.
5. Maternal Aunt had breast cancer.
6. Father had lymphoma
7. Another maternal Aunt had bone cancer.
8. Maternal Grandmother and greatgrandmother had BC (later in life -70's and 80's).
Good things:
HER negative
Exercised since high school
Having BRCA test done soon, although from what I understand, even if negative, does not necessarily mean peace of mind.
Raye -
I have a question-my rad. oncologist told me that I have an 8% chance of getting breast cancer in my right breast-I had a lumpectomy for DCIS in my left-2 tumors.But you said the ACS says we have a 3-4 fold increased risk of developing breast cancer again. Is that really true? Why would my onc. say otherwise? I`ll have to do more research, I guess. Kathy
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Kathy, interesting question I would like answered too. Maybe we should start a new thread on this? I was told before some HIGH amount of risk to get cancer in the other breast once DX her2 in the opposite one. I told this to my breast surgeon and he said to bring him the article..he wants to read it because its just NOT true.
I never told him it was a article. I read something on one of these boards that we are at high risk for getting bc back in the opposite breast. Thats why I told him I just wanted my other one removed. He says it has nothing to do with it. I would think having her2/neu, 3+++, with positive nodes WOULD have at least a small risk factor? (But maybe I am way off here?) Anybody here know for sure?
Chelee -
Here's what the American Cancer Society says about your risk of getting BC again - in either breast - after you've been diagnosed with BC once:
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Personal history of breast cancer: A woman with cancer in one breast has a 3- to 4-fold increased risk of developing a new cancer in the other breast or in another part of the same breast. This is different from a recurrence (return) of the first cancer.
The important thing to understand is that this 3-4 fold risk increase is measured against the base level of risk for a woman with no other significant risk factors. While the average woman has a 13% risk (a 1 in 8 chance)of getting BC in her lifetime, this number averages together all women, including those who are very high risk for genetic (or other) reasons. I believe that the base level BC risk is about 6%-8%. So applying the ACS 3-4 fold risk increase, this means that someone who has already been diagnosed once with BC has anywhere from an 18% - 32% risk of getting BC again (a new primary BC rather than a recurrence). The number varies based on personal factors and of course could be higher if you have other significant risk factors. Additionally, the older you were when first diagnosed, and the older you are, the lower your risk of getting BC again (you simply have fewer years left in which to get a 2nd occurrance). However if you were young when first diagnosed your risk will be at higher.
Here's the complete ACS information on BC risk:
http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/conten...st_cancer_5.asp
The risk of a getting a 2nd primary BC is also discussed on the Komen site:
http://www.komen.org/intradoc-cgi/idc_cg...PersonalHistory -
Beesie, Thanks for sharing that paragraph from the ACS. Even that is good enough to show my surgeon. I just just trying to make a point that I want my other breast gone because I am at a higher risk then the norm and I don't like worrying about it and the mammo's that go with it.
Here I sit now with 3 masses in my left breat that appeared on my recent mammo. Yet he gets bent out of shape. I'm the one worried here...my breast hurts.
Our risk factor has to be much higher as you already mentioned...he should know that too.
I am going to copy that sentence...and also go check out there site. Thanks again.
Chelee -
I was told by my doctor that I am high risk because of what they saw under the microscope.
I had a 2.7 cm tumour, DCIS, lumpectomy, no nodes or vessels, all clear margins, called "aggressive", treatment 6 months CEF chemo, 18 radiation treatments,
ER/PR positive, her2 negative, pre-menopausal at diagnosis, smoked for 15 years, quit 12 years ago.
Barb -
I have already had invasive breast cancer 6 years ago, no nodes involved. I have extremely dense breast and I'm in my 50's.
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I am at high risk because
1. I have bc - premenapause
2. I am BRCA2+
3. My mother had bc twice - 30 years apart - age 50 (like me) & age 79
4. Maternal grandmother likely died of ovarian cancer
5. Maternal aunt likely died of ovarian cancer
6. Paternal aunt has ovarian cancer
7. Paternal cousin dx with bc at age 40
all despite all the things I did "right":
I'm thin, watch what I eat, exercise, got my period at 14, had my son at 23, breastfed for 15 months.
I'm scheduled for bilat mastec next Wed. 4/4 - I don't want to do this again. Also considering oopherectomy.
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We are high risk because:
1. Diagnosed at stage 3 IDC
2. High grade 8 cm tunor
3. Just 33 pre menapausal
4. Metastatic cancer in lympth nodes
5. Before treatment started, cancer spread to nodes at base of neck.
6. Premenapausal
7. Herceptin stopped due to joint pain
8. Risk stated as 50-75% -
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