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  • mvspaulding
    mvspaulding Member Posts: 446
    edited February 2016

    wonderful news Jodes!! So is chemo over for good with you? Congrats and what great support!

    Good luck with your return to work. Just ease back in.

  • jodes001
    jodes001 Member Posts: 92
    edited February 2016

    mvspaulding- Chemo is finished. i have to do 6 weeks of rads 5x a week, and 9 months of Herceptin, 1x every 3 weeks. Its not over yet !

    thx!

  • chinookmom
    chinookmom Member Posts: 45
    edited February 2016

    Twirp26- Hi. I had a blood clot in my superior vena cava 2 weeks after my chemo port was put in my left arm. At that point my anemia and chemo racing heart symptoms hadn't kicked it as bad as they are yet. For me the symptoms were pain and throbbing in my left arm. You could feel some heat around the veins and the veins in my left arm were much more visible. My blood clot is where the catheter runs from my arm through my shoulder. I was still using the shower sleeve for my arm port and the last night i used it the pain was almost unbearable (i was secure it with a rubber band). I imagine the clot symptoms directly related to the port catheter might be a little different than a DVT type clot. Here is a quick link that may be of interest: http://chemocare.com/chemotherapy/side-effects/blo...

    They did a dopler scan (pain free) to find my blood clot & i have to self inject Lovenox daily into my stomach for the entire time i have my chemo port. Which will be through the end of this year with the Herception infusions. I use the EMLA cream to numb to injection spot on my belly to help with the needle pain.

    i was having so many weird racing heartbeat symptoms that i went in to consult with the Cardiologist whose office did my ECHO. Got some peace of mind that he thought all of my symptoms were chemo related. Helped so much to relieve some of the anxiety i feel when i don't understand what some of those disconcerting chest and out of breath feelings are..

    jodes001- Congratulations! How lovely your friends and family showed up! You are indeed very blessed. Take your time and ease back into work. If you ended up with anemia after chemo, that can take weeks to get your stores back to where you need to be. I'm so happy for you!!

    lawyer180- Yeah sometimes i can't tell what I'm feeling in my dense breasts. My MO doesn't tell me that much upon exam. I do feel a bit of scarring from my needle core biopsy. Other times i feel my dense breasts and feel a little freaked out that i have some big lump.Hopefully you can get in with your SO soon and get some more clear information.

    I'm four days out from chemo #4 and still feeling crappy.. really bad heartburn this time.. and much more fatigue. Trying to officially go on disability to finish chemo and the 2nd 1/2 his hitting me much harder.. I'm so hungry for a meal that just feels good to eat without side effects.. And i haven't had coffee in months. Missing a "normal" day..

    Hope everyone is off to a good start of their week!


  • LiLNutmeg
    LiLNutmeg Member Posts: 30
    edited February 2016

    Had infusion 3/12 of Taxol yesterday ... kicking my butt but all jacked up on steroids and didn't sleep at all last night.  Last 2 infusions the body and bone aches didn't hit till day 3 -  hip and leg pain was incredible last night ... 2 percocets didn't even touch it.    Going to be a long day today.   On a positive note .. the bowel issues are much better than on FEC.

    We're expecting 8 -10 inches of snow tomorrow .. so need to get out and get some groceries. I'm so  over winter..... hurry up Spring.

    Hope you all have a great day xxxx


  • Sammy3
    Sammy3 Member Posts: 136
    edited February 2016

    chinookmom - same here - I think we are taking the same chemo and this one has been the worst for me so far. I thought I was doing so good until this time. I have been more tired and just not feeling myself. Also having more bathroom issues and don't feel like eating. It sucks we have 2 more to go. I am hoping #4 was an anomoly and that 5 and 6 go ok!

  • Sammy3
    Sammy3 Member Posts: 136
    edited February 2016

    My surgeons office called me back and said I am not a candidate for the SAVI radiation :( They said a) I'm too young and b) typically its for people who have their chemo after surgery??? I thought that was weird but wanted you all to know what I found out - let me know if anyone else hears anything.

    Also I am kinda annoyed. They scheduled me for a 7a surgery (be there at 6a) on April 29. Well I live 60 miles away and although I like to get this crap done early - I'd have to leave the house at pitch black 5am or earlier - so I ask if I can swap with someone. They said "no one will swtich". Um really?? Its 2 mos away like how is the surgery schedule set in stone. And also - why are you asking - just do it. Ugh. Annoying.

  • Karenbo
    Karenbo Member Posts: 61
    edited February 2016

    Congratulations Jodes!!! Love the picture and great support team! Good luck returning to work and with the transition to Herceptin alone. I have 2 more chemo sessions then transition to Herceptin alone myself.

    Sorry about the arm/leg pain and shortness of breath Lou, mvspaulding and twirp. Hope you all feel better today!! And no clots!!

    Hope the abraxane works better for you chinacat!


  • Twirp26
    Twirp26 Member Posts: 178
    edited February 2016

    thanks everyone! I don't believe my problem is blood clots but just cumulative chemo😞 Can't wait to feel even close to "normal" again!!

    Jodes, congrats on getting all that other chemo behind you. I will have to have Herceptin also for a year but you can celebrate being done with that other crap. On to the next step😊

    Sammy, sorry to hear about your surgery time. Maybe you should just say, sorry that doesn't work for me. Can you get a different day??? I'm sure you want to get it over with but nobody likes to get get up at the butt crack of dawn! Lol😜

    Lilnutmeg, sorry about your body/bone aches. I know how you feel😞 I noticed you had FEC Before taxol, what kind of SE's did you get? I am getting my first dose on Monday and I'm so nervous. Dr. Said I might feel more nauseous etc. did you have any taste changes?? Vomiting??

    Ladies, let's keep pushing through!!! Thinking of you all!!!

  • Tesla
    Tesla Member Posts: 53
    edited February 2016

    Sammy, think about this way. Surgery starts at 7 and you leave at 5am. it's actually better. They will keep you nothing to eat or drink past midnight (therefore you won't be too hungry waiting for surgery). plus, your waiting time is less. Kind of like airport, first flight is usually on time 😁😁

  • Sammy3
    Sammy3 Member Posts: 136
    edited February 2016

    True about the time. When I had my surgery in town, I always ended up with a 2p time or something insane. I just thought it would be easier 2 months out to bump me a tad later. I have actually thought about staying overnight closer, but then I'd have to find someone to stay with the kids overnight, and I just don't think it will work.

    Twirp good luck with the new regimen! Cancer has no chance with you - you are coming at it from every direction!!!!

  • Sammy3
    Sammy3 Member Posts: 136
    edited February 2016

    can anyone tell me if your path reports had a ki-67 score? I see people reference that here and there, and I can't find one in mine. I see a Nottingham score, but that's it. Thanks!

  • mvspaulding
    mvspaulding Member Posts: 446
    edited February 2016

    Twirp, will be thinking of you on Monday, hoping it will be easy on you.

    Still waiting to feel normal, I am so tired with this round. I am supposed to go on an overnight wine trip with the girls this weekend. When they planned it I figured I would be feeling all right to go, but now I am praying I can hang without falling asleep on them all.

    Sammy, my KI67 score was on my original path report, my doc explained that it was one of the tests that factored into my Oncotype score, so maybe you didn't have it tested??

  • Smurfette26
    Smurfette26 Member Posts: 730
    edited February 2016

    Sammy3 my path report showed my Ki-67 rate. Mine was <10%.


  • mvspaulding
    mvspaulding Member Posts: 446
    edited February 2016

    mine was 50% so I think that's why my oncotype score came back in the high range.

  • Opt4Life
    Opt4Life Member Posts: 191
    edited February 2016

    Hi ladies, hope you are all playing it forward and kicking the lil c's butt. I see some of you have finished chemo. Congrats! A long road....but certainly seeing the end of chemo treatment is quite the accomplishment mentally and physically.

    I finished my 12th and last Taxol last week and went straight into my first AC treatment today. My time in the chemo chair has increased from 1 and 1/2 hours to 2 and 1/2 hours but so far, so good. I do feel a little bit achey. I got the Neulasta patch which doesn't hurt but I know its there on my stomach waiting to release at some point tomorrow. Taxol wasn't too bad for me but the cumulative effect was a heaviness in my legs, endurance problems, lots of nosebleeds, and generally breathing heavier than normal. This of course has made my usually fairly easy 60 minute workout on the elliptical seem like climbing a mountain for 6 hours. Also, the decadron has causued a 27 lb weight gain. I whined today about this and finally my oncologist prescribed something called triamterene to reduce the water retention. We'll see if this helps.

    Be blessed!

  • Angtee15
    Angtee15 Member Posts: 209
    edited February 2016

    Sammy3-Mine says Ki67 was greater than 50%.

    Opt 4life-congrats on finishing Taxol! I'm close on your heels. I have #11 on Friday. AC following. So no steroids on AC? I haven't gained weight but my face is puffy from them and my skin broke out. Won't be sorry to see them go. Ugh.

    Hope everyone is having a good week!

  • Opt4Life
    Opt4Life Member Posts: 191
    edited February 2016

    Hi AngTee, I still get steroids including decadron for A/C but its a different combination of other drugs that don't seem to have the water retention problems. In any event I'll stay on this prescription diuretic until I finish chemo (as long as it doesn't seem to interfere or cause issues with potassium levels). I know the chemo/drugs are helping me live literally but they all have some sort of negative impact. Oh well, let me stop before I hit the WHINE button

  • puremalarkey
    puremalarkey Member Posts: 30
    edited February 2016

    Good luck gals with your new regimens, I'm really glad to be done with chemo last Monday. Getting over this one is still ongoing and I really want my taste buds to get right again. Seems like it's taking longer this time for most food to taste normal. I made another cloche hat out of 100% cotton for warmer weather, the earrings were 2 $ in a bargain bin they were the right color but I'll probably change out the hooks. image

  • chinacat
    chinacat Member Posts: 78
    edited February 2016

    got my first treatment of abraxane today and no reaction. Phew. 5 weekly treatments left.

    I had to pull out all my reports to find my Ki-67 rate, which is 40%. I don't recall any conversations about this rate with any of the 5 doctors I consulted with. My oncotype score was 17. They don't really correlate. Strange.

    Angtee and Opt and anyone else starting AC. I wish I knew this before I developed lower end issues so I'll share with you my thoughts. Stay ahead of constipation! Stool softener, Metamucil or whatever you choose or your MO advises. Just stay ahead of it at all costs in any way you choose. A couple others here have described it pretty good when saying its like giving birth to glass shards. I don't wish that on anyone. Good luck avoiding it!

    Twirp and anyone starting FEC, I believe the E and the A (from AC) are both doxorubicin. The C in both is cytoxan. If interested, see above for my recommendation. ^^^

    Have a great day and few SE's, beautiful ladies:)

  • Sammy3
    Sammy3 Member Posts: 136
    edited February 2016
  • lawyer180
    lawyer180 Member Posts: 36
    edited February 2016

    My ki-67 was 90%

  • Opt4Life
    Opt4Life Member Posts: 191
    edited February 2016

    Puremalarkey, very nice hat.

    Chinacat, yeah for no reaction. A/C went smoothly for me too except that funny taste in my mouth came with it-not metallic but strange. Great advice on constipation. I've been downing magnesium, fiber mixes, and colon cleanse pills for weeks now and it has helped. Ouch on passing glass shards. Good grief, hope to avoid that.

    One test had my Ki67 at 5 while another test on a diffetent area ofthe lump was 18.

  • chinookmom
    chinookmom Member Posts: 45
    edited February 2016

    Ki-67- Was this test part of everyone's original biopsy pathology? Or part of the pathology from your surgery? My biopsy pathology doesn't have this test. Sorry, there are some test results that are discussed here that i don't think i was ever tested for.. a bit nerve-wracking.

    Sammy3~ Thank you for the Her2+ link. Interesting. I'll have to learn more.. Let me know if you find anything out. :) Sometimes i think the early surgery times can be better, there are a few studies out there about better outcomes from early am surgeries.. beginning of the day for the surgical team etc. http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/27/health/youn-surgery-... & http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/health/15safe.ht... I figure i'll take any advantage & schedule mine early. :)

    puremalarkey- Love the new cloche hat! Beautiful color.

    mvspaulding- Hope you're feeling better & able to enjoy your upcoming getaway!

    For those still doing chemo 4-6. I'm right there with you. I too am more wiped out by the 4th chemo. Its been a week since my infusion, and i just get exhausted from doing the littlest thing. Just trying to get through each day. I'm so foggy and forgetful.

    TGIF! Hope everyone feeling pretty good and that side effects are diminishing. xo


  • mvspaulding
    mvspaulding Member Posts: 446
    edited February 2016

    Chinookmom, I'm not positive but I believe the KI-67 was a part of my original biopsy pathology report. If you look it up on this site it doesn't say much about it though, it says it is fairly new and one of the factors that is looked at in the Oncotype DX test.

    Thanks for the well wishes, I am very tired after working all week but going to bed early tonight and hopefully I will be able to hang! lol I think this will be the first thing I have really done on a weekend with friends since I started treatment. Wish the dang bumps on my head would go away so I could wear my wig and not look like cancer girl, but can't have it all I guess.

    Chinacat, glad your Abraxane treatment went well, hope you are still doing good with it.

    Puremalarkey, love the hat. I think I am going to have to find some new hats or lightweight scarves to wear once the weather warms up.

    Opt4life, congrats on finishing taxol! I never took any oral steroids the whole time I got treatment. Mine only came in my pre-drugs during my infusions. I am glad for that because I don't tolerate them well, each time the day after, I get the steroid flush where my face and chest are red and hot as hell.

    Sooooo glad it is Friday, hope everyone has a good SE-free weekend! :)

  • Sammy3
    Sammy3 Member Posts: 136
    edited February 2016

    I had my 2nd Cardio echo today. Well I guess its the 1st since being on Herceptin, as the other one was the day or 2 before I started chemo. I'm interested to see what it says, and praying that the Herceptin isn't damaging my heart :( Any other Her2+ ladies have results yet?

  • CyndiNic
    CyndiNic Member Posts: 59
    edited February 2016

    Sammy3 - I had my 2nd echo Monday and there unfortunately was a change from my first. My MO was surprised by it and it was enough of a change to stop my Herceptin infusion Wednesday. At least I still got my last Taxol so I can put chemo behind me. Somehow the news about my heart completelytook away from the joy of finishing chemo. I go for a MUGA scan Monday then see where to go from there.

  • Sammy3
    Sammy3 Member Posts: 136
    edited February 2016

    Really Cindi?!? What was it? The ejection fraction? UGH I'm so sorry!!!!! Will you get Herceptin in 3 weeks or do you know? Did you feel any different? Sorry for the 10000 questions, just man this roller coaster ride we are all on is crazy. I was explaining something to one of my friends and people can't believe the process that breast cancer puts us through. She said "so you're done next month, right?" And I had to explain that *kindof*, but still Herceptin till Dec, then also another lumpectomy, then radiation, then somewhere in there start taking tamoxifen. NEVER ENDING!!!!!

    I'll keep you in my thoughts for sure!

  • CyndiNic
    CyndiNic Member Posts: 59
    edited February 2016

    Sammy3 - all they would say was there was a change in heart function, by the time the report came from the cardiologist I was down on the infusion floor and heard the news from the nurses - now I wished I had pushed to have my MO come down and better explain it. I have noticed being short of breath lately but figured it was from not working out. I will know more by Tuesday of next week. As of right now they have not scheduled my next Herceptin until they learn more. Feeling like absolute crap from my last Taxol has me even more sensitive and emotional with all of this. Trying to stay positive but lately it's not so eas

  • Sammy3
    Sammy3 Member Posts: 136
    edited February 2016

    Hang in there! I visit the Triple Positive page quite often and I know women have talked about this very thing. From what I understand it is temporary. When you meet with your MO again be sure to ask about that new Her2 drug that I posted about yesterday. I am short of breath too - figured I was just out of shape for the same reasons you mention. :(

  • Tesla
    Tesla Member Posts: 53
    edited February 2016

    I'm getting my 2nd post chemo ECHO on March.Hope everything is fine. If we stop Herceptin, is there any alternatives? or just no more herceptin for HER2 +?

    I finished my last 12th Taxol a week ago. Think I have some sort of post chemo blue...yes, I'm glad I'm done with chemo, but I got axillary cording on my right arm (I admit I didn't keep up with my post mastectomies exercise)....ugh...wanna go back to normal!!

    By the way, I'm 32. Any one getting Zoladex shot with chemo to protect ovaries? I was wondering when does the hot flashes from Zoladex will go away? I haven't started tamoxifen yet.

    Thx!!!

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