Side effects of breast radiation with implants??
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Love to hear from those that have implants and any adverse SE ? Really any side effects at all. My breast tissue changes dramatically and the implant feels very tight ? Please give me some feedback
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I had a lumpectomy May 2015 and had 4 lymph nodes removed followed by 6 weeks of radiation . I have implants and not doing so well. I have been diagnosed with lymphodema and cording. I have had 10 weeks of lymphodema therapy and wear a compression bra and sleeve. My left breast is shrinking really bad and I look very lop sided. The shrinking is squeezing my implant and making it very tight and uncomfortable. I am in a lot of pain and can't sleep on that side at night. I am starting to wonder if radiation was the right thing to do and where do I goo from here
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thx for the reply . Curious , what was your stage and grade of tumor? I'm not second guessing the chemo and rad, but the change in the breast and implant was shocking ....was never really disclosed. Not sure it would have changed my choice, but aware of what is to come really does make a difference in accepting . I had some cording, but it resolved with stretching. I'm so tired of doctors and Meds , so not sure if I want some type of breast corrective surgery. It looks awful , not to mention depressing . And if I do something , what if there is a recurrence of the cancer? I hate cancer.....supposedly cured, but I will never be the same:
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hi there
I was dx 4/29/15 with IBC of my left breast with +lymph nodes but not other spread. I started chemo 5/11/15 and did that every 3 weeks for 6 treatments and then opted for double mastectomy. I had tissue expanders placed at that time with anticipation of permanent implants 3-6 months after the mastectomy. I was told I wouldn't have radiation due to complete response to chemo.. and the plastic surgeon asked about it several times because he said he'd opt for a DIEP flap reconstruction if I were to have to have radiation as its not a good idea to have radiation with the expanders or implants in.
So then the oncologist said she made a mistake and that I would have to have radiation. I freaked out because I had the tissue expanders in. I met with the radiation oncologist who assured me as long as they were filled prior to starting radiation all would be fine. So I had them filled to size and started radiation mid November 2015. My last was 12/24/15 on 12/24/15 I developed horrible rib pain. My radiated side shrunk up, was bright red, hurt like hell.
Over the course of six weeks I saw my radiation oncologist, regular oncologist, and general surgeon. No one seemed concerned and said it would calm down as the tissue healed. The general surgeon did do a punch biopsy and put me on antibiotics in case it was an infection but all tests came back normal. And the pain continued.
About 3 weeks ago I spiked a 103.5 fever and my skin broke open and oozed pus. I went to ER and my plastic surgeon was called in and he said it was a horrible infection and the tissue expander had to come out. I was gutted. While he was in there he said radiation just decimated he area. And the infection was one of the worst he had seen.
So now I have a tissue expander on the right which seems to be fine and am concave and scarred up on the left. It looks terrible. He said he can do the DIEP flap on the left in a year or so to even it out but in all honesty I may just get the right expander out and be flat. The thought of a horrible invasive surgery is daunting right now to me. But I am only 37 so I am also struggling with the idea of not having breasts.
So that's my implant/radiation horror story.
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FLIPFLOP....what a road you have been on! had I known that this would be this bad, I would have done some research. it would not have changed my choice to have Rad, but it certainly would have changed what I needed to do to prohibit or lessen the chances of the that now completely surrounds the implant. I am so angry and disappointed that I was not informed. I too and not at all thrilled over the possibility of surgical correction. I didn't have the mastectomies as you did, just so damn tired of medical issues everyday as well as doctor appts and copays. I am very grateful to be alive, but this part of it could have been avoided had he felt the need to share the potential risk and how I could have possibly avoided it. I am 60 years old and got the implants 5.5 years ago. at this point the size doesn't matter, just would like them to look remotely the same and not have the pain associated with the contracture
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I hope you can get relief from the pain. Living with the constant pain for six weeks was bad enough I can't imagine longer. If affected me so badly and my babies couldn't possible process why I was how I was. The hardest part was having them want to play and not understanding why I wouldn't.
Like you, I probably would still have the radiation knowing what would happen because they all said with IBC it was a must. But I just wish my oncologist would have known that I had to have it regardless of chemo response so I could have avoided the last two months of hardship. Yes we are alive to complain but certainly earned the right to complain.
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Hi flipflop, and welcome to Breastcancer.org!
We, too, wanted to express how sorry we are for what you've been through! As you can already see, there's lots of support here for you. We're here for you -- please continue to post and let us know how you're doing!
--The Mods
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I had radiation with implants because my radiation was for a recurrence. My RO downplayed all side effects of radiation; told be I would get "a little sunburn." My PS had told me that it would affect the implant; that about 3 months post Rads, it would get tight and would get pulled higher. He was right.
I burned badly during radiation. It is now four months after radiation. A month ago, it started getting very tight and pulling up. It is not too noticeable yet with clothes on,but if it gets worse, it will be.
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kbeee......I read that the shrinkage and heightening could continue to get worse for over a year post rad!!!! I hadn't even noticed mine until 4 months after I completed rad tx. so disappointed to say the least. I feel that I could have avoided a surgical repair had I known. flipflop......love your comment "earned the right to complain" and yes we have
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kbeee....reading your medical and surgical history. WOW! what a journey. FYI, mine is noticeable (not a lot, but you can see it) it's painful at times as well. lying on either side it just pulls from being so tight.
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Mone is s bit painful too; it feels almost like I have a tissue expander in. I have learned to be a side sleeper and not a belly sleeper!
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I am almost two years out post rads. I have been doing a quick daily massage of the radiated breast - after my morning shower I put on a bit of good natural moisturizer and do about 1O - 12 massaging movements that my PS showed me. The purpose I guess is to slightly move the implant in its pocket.
I don't feel more tightness on the radiated side, both sides feel the same. The radiated side looks slightly higher and slightly smaller. One might say it is a bit perkier than the other one. This is not noticeable when I am dressed. -
muska.....I've started massaging and hope that it's not too late. I did it after the implants were put in and had NO problems. Unfortunately I had no clue that this is what I needed to have been doing post rad tx. I'm just so shocked. had I known what I was supposed to be avoiding, I damn well would have done it. I work the implant hard, many times per day. to the point of making it very sore. but I'd rather do that hoping to make a difference, than having to follow up with the plastic surgeon for possible surgery
:( thanks for your input!!
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I had radiation with an expander in and have been told that the radiation burst my expander and all the saline came out. I now have to have surgery again to remove the old expander and put a new one in and then have to wait 4 - 6 months after before I can get my implant. Take care and hang in there.
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mjblueslady.....the hardest thing to adjust to sometimes is the fact that we never seem to be "over it" always something. grateful to be alive FOR SURE......but people just don't understand the life long heaviness that many of us experience. sorry to hear of your problems, but sure appreciate your input...............hang on
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ugh so sorry for the unexpected surgery MJ. I can relate and it's a tough pill to swallow but I am happy to see you get to have another expander put in. Stupid radiation. I curse it at least ten times a day. And then beg it to do its intended job and save me from every going through this nightmare again.
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My story is completely different but does involve implants. I had implants for probably 15 years....7 surgeries with them. I had every complication possible but kept getting fixed and getting them replaced. I think I had over $23,000 out of pocket money in them. Did it all for my NOW Ex-Husband. About a year and a half ago, I started having pain especially in my right breast. I went to a PS to see about just getting them out. I am 60 years old and said just take them out. He suggested I go see if there was anything inside that was causing the pain. Mammogram, then sonogram, then biopsy,then surgery, then radiation. Here the tumor was "hiding" behind the implant and could not be felt or seen from the outside. However, it turns out that the tumor was exactly where I was feeling all the pain. During my surgery, the one surgeon removed the tumor the the PS came in and removed the implants and closed me up. I had drains outside of each side of my body for 3 weeks! At the time, that was the worst pain I have ever experienced in my life.............until this week after radiation. Pain inside, raw skin on the outside, seeping/weeping, skin falling off...you name it. Like so many of you, I ask myself "when does this nightmare ever end".
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2B2woods.....that's crazy! again, it's heard to imaging what some of us go through and you have had more than your share. I hate the way the unevenness looks and the radiated breast is very high and the upper half is hard. again, had I been informed, I would have been doing what was necessary to have perhaps avoided the contracture. the best thing about these boards is the camaraderie, the ability to connect and bounce thoughts off one another and knowing that someone understands the fight. outside people are kind and compassionate.......but once they see your treatment is over, they think all is well. they have no clue about the continued struggle with daily life, trying to feel normal in the midst of medicines and lifelong physical toll that cancer takes on us. so sorry for what you are going through.....don't let this beat you!!
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2b2 - is radiation complete? If so make sure you keep careful watch on that skin weeping and falling off. My PS said mine would never heal and he had to cut that tissue/skin out and close me back up (after removing the tissue expander) My infection was behind the expander and when the area of dead tissue and skin from radiation got big enough, the wound started weeping and that was how he found the infection.
According to him radiated tissue and skin won't growback. So the wound won't heal if that makes sense. If it's just peeling skin that's normal, but if it's open weeping wounds please see someone right away. Mine ended up very bad since my radiation oncologist kept blowing it off as normal reaction to radiation that would heal.
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I completed radiation 2 weeks ago. FlipFlop: WOW! That really scares me! Last night, it drained so much that it went through my cotton tee-shirt (what I wear as a bra these past two weeks!) then even soaked my bed sheets. Now....today...no drainage and actually looks better. Perhaps I just needed to get it all out???? I will keep a watchful eye on it. Thank you for the advice.
bjb01: Thank you for your kind words. You are so right about being on these boards. I have NO ONE in my personal life that can even relate. No one has been through this. And you are right about once the treatments are over, the side effects are far from over. I have had more trouble and pain since the radiation has been completed than I did during. The nurses just keep saying that it will get better. The medical professionals only seem to feed you a fraction of "what may happen" (or probably will). I think that if they lay it all on the table up front many people may not get the treatment.
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I'm sorry Hun I didn't mean to scare you but if it's improving that's good! Mine never improved. It went from a tiny little open sore to a long one over four days time. Just wanted to let you know about mine since it was similar in the beginning. But improving is a good sign
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