Downton Abbey

Marijen,interesting possibility of Violet saying "cruel" but the episode's top quotes included "cool little miss"

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Brookside, I hope her claws do come back to haunt her!!

ceanna, I think the foreshadowing has been very heavy these last few episodes. I am very afraid that Thomas's story may take a very tragic ending. Which makes me very upset because I think Thomas could have had a redemptive storyline.

I am wondering if Robert and Cora might come up with the idea that Thomas go to London with Edith and Marigold in the London House. The house will then be available to Robert and Cora to stay when Downton is open to the public, which it will be, with Mosely providing information about the history of Downton, and Carlson and Hughes the social life of the upper crust.

I've been on tours of stately homes in both England and Scotland the past few years, wonderful fun, especially the Queen Mum's home (Castle May?) where Charles and Camilla still visit annually. The housekeeper has some stories.

Or...Thomas can help Mary with the pigs now that he is reading up on how to do so.
Kathy

I think Barrows will find a wonderful job and wonderful life. There is just too much foreshadowing of his potential downslide.

I like your thinking, Brookside. So maybe Julian Fellowes did all this horrible foreshadowing so that Thomas's redemption will be all the sweeter? I've really gotten to like Barrows this season.

I just watch The Imitation Game today, about Alan Turing. He was the head of the team that broke the Enigma code. He was was prosecuted in 1952 for homosexual acts. He didn't have a happy ending.

I was thinking if Mosely goes to work at the the school, there might be a reprieve for Thomas?. .? I've never been a big fan of him, he's so mean. But maybe with the young lad going off to the pigs, Carson won't want to do all the work. (We saw a bit of that with the cooking scene-well done ladies!) I sort of see Barrow as a fixture, going down with the ship when the great house is simply no longer.

I saw nor felt no spark between the lady editor and Tom. They are playing with us, I say,.haha.

I agree Bertie has to be told. I actually thought he'd maybe figured it out on his own already, but he was quite obtuse about it last episode.

I say yes to Isabel and Lord Merton, but I think those are two characters they might just leave us to wonder about.

And Maggie better be back! She is my favorite character of all.

I agree about the lady editor and Tom--no chemistry. But she was there in the last episode, and was the first female we've seen him talk to outside the family since the dear, departed Miss Bunting. Which made me think she's a plot device to pair off with Tom.

Mominator, I think that's a good guess about Edith and Bertie.

It is 1925. William died in what, 1918? Daisy's had seven years to mature! Not happening!

Agree that the scene last week with Mr. Carson in the kitchen was a lot of fun!

Pretty sure I had about 5 heart attacks watching tonight.

Oh, I can't wait. I am at dd's but will go home as soon as my granddaughter goes to bed

For those of you who are Maggie Smith fans, she is excellent in the film The Lady in the Van. I's a lovely movie

it was a real tear jerker. So much happening. Tempers flaring! Why does it have to come to an end

Wow, I didn't think I could dislike Mary more and yet, I can. That she somehow finds her romantic happiness in this episode grates me the wrong way. And that Julian Fellowes garners sympathy for her by linking her character to Barrow's.....mean, nasty, jealous characters...... that are really just misunderstood, unhappy souls???

The only good thing in this episode is that Tom, Edith and Lord Grantham called Mary out for what she is....a bitch!

MsP

Octogirl, I think that if Tom Branson and Lord Grantham weren't gentlemen of the times, they would have called her the B word. Hehe. Despite the sympathy I feel for Thomas, it was he who recently tried to embarrass Gwen, the former housemaid, so I don't think he has necessarily changed his spots, when it comes to jealousy. But I do have more sympathy for him than Mary, not sure why. I guess because I am a bleeding heart liberal??? LOL

MsP

MsP: one of the reasons I have more sympathy for Thomas is that I am also a bleeding heart. It isn't just that he is gay, it is that he is a member of the lower class. Mary has led a privileged life and should appreciate that and live her life accordingly. noblesse oblige and all of that. Makes her less sympathetic. I wasn't moved by her 'crash widow' whining.

Octogirl

Octogirl, sounds like we are on the same page. I hesitated to say that I give Thomas more leeway because he is of the working class...probably not fair but that is why bleeding heart liberals are criticized, I guess. LOL

I thought Bertie made a fine point about trust. Edith didn't trust him enough to tell him about Marigold, and as a result, he didn't trust her.

Can we all give a woot woot for Spratt!!!

MsP

The Lady on the Van is magnificent. Dame Maggie Smith is in almost every scene and she just chews it up. She's 180 degrees opposite of Violet in this movie.