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  • Odalys
    Odalys Member Posts: 2,103
    edited November 2006
    Kim - How are you and the family doing? Any news on your biopsy yet?

    Anna - How is your husband doing?

    Debbie - Good luck tomorrow. A sleep study is painless, just a little unnerving to see little one's connected to so many leads. Hope all goes well.

    Mary Lou - Glad to see you so excited. Hope you can get your car back soon.

    Margerie - I have a friend who would like more information on continuing Herceptin for another year. She has been on it for a year but now has lung mets. Where can we find more information on this and the vaccine trial? I think it's sooooo cool that you can draw. Would love to see those cartoons. How are the kids doing this school year?

    Did anyone see last nights extreme make over home edition? What a beautiful tribute to bc survivors and all who have lost their battle. It really struck a nerve and dh and I were both crying by the end of the show. I still have a hard time thinking of myself as a cancer survivor. Some days it still seems like it's all a bad dream. I will be undergoing a cervical biopsy on Thursday. GYN wants to make sure all is okay with uterus before she takes me in for an ooph. I may need a hysterectomy too. I'll keep you posted.

    Love and hugs to all,
    Odalys
  • AnnaM
    AnnaM Member Posts: 1,387
    edited November 2006
    I saw the very end of that show just after I checked into the hotel near the hospital. I didn't really know what was going on, only that the young woman had recently gone through cancer treatment, had a very young family, etc. She was very very beautiful and touching, and I probably would have melted into a teary mess if I had seen the whole show.

    I agree, Odalys, some days it all seems like a bad dream.

    I hope cervical biopsies are as easy as uterine biopsies. I had one of those just a week before the fateful mammogram last year, and it was not bad at all. Yes, please keep us posted about the biopsy and everything else.

    And Kim, I hope all is well with you.

    Debbie, how did the sleep study go?

    Hugs to all of you,

    Anna
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2006
    Hi, my dear sisters!
    The sleep study was really tough. Daniel was terrified, and the male tech. who was putting the leads on his head did not make it any easier for him. I know I am overly protective of my baby, but Greg agreed that this man was less than sympathetic to a 2 year old boy's needs. He was way too forceful in restraining my sweet baby. I was heartbroken that I couldn't do anything. Daniel cried himself to sleep while they glued the wires to his head. When he woke up he was so scared. My heart just ached for him. He kept pointing to his little head and saying, "no.....".

    We were told we should not sleep so we could be sure to press the alert button if we saw anything questionable while Daniel slept. I slept from 10:30-2:30, and Greg slept from 2:30 till breakfast arrived. We are so tired!

    Poor Daniel-his little fingers and toes were wrinkled from his being in the bathtub for so long when we got home. It is near impossible to get the cement off, and Daniel is (understandably) very protective of his head now.

    I'd better go-I'm trying to recover from stuff,and Daniel should wake up soon.

    Anna, Kim, and Odalys-I'm praying for you all, my dearest sisters. Please, God, make this END. Enough of the medical stuff!
    Love you all! Love and prayers, Deb
  • Odalys
    Odalys Member Posts: 2,103
    edited November 2006
    Debbie - OMG, my heart shrunk reading your post. Poor baby, did the tech not know how to handle a toddler? How traumatic for a 2 year old. Please give him a big hug for me. He deserves extra TLC after that ordeal. When will you have the results?

    You are right, enough of the medical stuff!!!!! What a long journey this is for all of us. Thanks for the prayers, lately I haven't felt like praying much...too tired.

    Tonight I plan to have fun watching my favorite show - Dancing with the stars. I'll worry about the biopsy tomorrow.
    Love and hugs to all my sisters,
    Odalys
  • AnnaM
    AnnaM Member Posts: 1,387
    edited November 2006
    Oh Debbie, I'm so sorry Daniel had a hard time! I can't get the picture of him pointing to his little head and saying no out of my head. That must have been so hard for you!

    So today we are on pins and needles about Odalys. I hope everything goes well, and I am sending positive vibes down toward Florida, hope you feel them.

    Yep, my guy won that dancing contest! Odalys, what are we gonna do without our show?

    My hubs is doing much better here at home. He's napping right now, still very tired from his ordeal, but the pain is way down. He's postponed the endoscopy till Dec. 15th, just like a man, huh? He has a business trip planned and wants to get that done first.

    It's raining tons and tons today. I just came back from the funeral of a quilting buddy who died of complications from her treatment for Lupus. Very sad. Her husband broke down during the service, quietly, but completely. I just about lost it when they closed the coffin. I had never seen that done before. It all makes me want to live every day to the fullest.

    I can even love the rain.

    My daughter is coming for a whole week's visit this Saturday. Gotta get her room ready.

    Mary Lou, I hope you are doing well. And Kim. And Lat.

    Love,

    Anna
  • kim825
    kim825 Member Posts: 284
    edited November 2006
    Hey everyone. A little update. The biopsy came back triple negative. I figured it would. I didn't get my hopes up but Anthony did. I will most likely start the Doxil on Tuesday w/ the Zometa. I have been having really bad back pain this week. Radiation Onc. said it is from the radiation. He gave me a pain patch, nausea pills (which I needed yesterday) and pain pills for breakthrough pain. So needless to say it has been a hard week. I am nervous about the Doxil and the side effects, but whatever it takes.
    Thinking about all of you. Odalys, thinking of you today. Anna, it must be nice to have dh home. Debbie, my Samantha was 2 when she had the sleep test done and the tech was wonderful. I wish it would have been that way for Daniel. She did have sleep apnea and had her adenoids and tonsils out. She is such a better sleeper now. Best thing we could have done. We were allowed to sleep. Daniel was on a monitor so why wouldn't they let you sleep?

    Hope you are all having a great week.

    hugs,
    Kim
  • Margerie
    Margerie Member Posts: 526
    edited November 2006
    Kim,

    I am sorry the biopsy isn't all that it could be! What is the treatment for triple neg mets? I have heard good things about Tykerb and it just got approved for fast-track and will be available mid- March.


    I haven't heard much about doxil. I hope it treats you well and your cancer very, very bad.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2006
    Hi sisters!
    My best friend and I talked for the past hour while our kids have been napping-it really felt good. We've been friends since our first day of HS, and we've gone through it all!
    Of course, the house is still a shambles. That's ok.
    My little pumpkin has recovered well from the terrifying sleep study. Kim, they wanted us to stay awake because they'd then be able to compare what we saw to what they saw on the test readout.

    Anyway, he has been giggly and his normal self.

    I still will carry guilt in my heart for hearing those cries and not being able to make it better for him.

    Odalys-I just said a prayer for you. Kim, I'm praying the new meds cooperate with you!

    Finally, Anna, I am sorry about losing a dear friend, but I wanted to tell you that the simple beauty of your message struck me.....

    "I can even love the rain."

    You said it, sister!
    Love and prayers, Deb
  • Odalys
    Odalys Member Posts: 2,103
    edited November 2006
    Kim - I'm so sorry. I'm not sure what to say...Damn breast cancer!!!!!!!!!!

    I just got back from the biopsy and multiple ultrasounds. Wow...it felt like severe menstrual cramps. What a weird sensation to have a piece of uterus ripped out. Yikes! So far no need for pain meds, just a little cramping. We are cautiously moving forward with just the laparoscopic ooph unless the bx shows something abnormal. Surgery is scheduled for Jan 3rd. DH went with me because I was very nervous about the tests, procedure and outcome. Lately, it seems I am waiting for the other show to drop. I'm sure you all can relate.

    Anna - Sorry about the loss of your friend. Interesting it's raining so much. When Steven was smaller he thought rain meant the sky was crying. If that were true than the sky would also be mourning the loss of your friend. How appropriate to have so much rain in your town today. Thanks for the positive vibes. I never feel alone on this journey because I know all my chemo sisters are there in spirit. Also, Congrats on your man winning the dance contest. What are we going to watch now???

    Love and hugs...
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2006

    ACK! Odalys, we just posted at the same time!

  • Odalys
    Odalys Member Posts: 2,103
    edited November 2006
    Wow, this board was taking for ever now I know it was
    working double time.

  • AnnaM
    AnnaM Member Posts: 1,387
    edited November 2006
    Kim, I'm sorry your test results were triple negative. I agree with Margerie, things move so quickly in the research arena. I hope you have lots of choices in your treatments, and I hope the Doxil is really touch on the mets but soft on you.

    Odalys, my mother tells a story about a very rainy day when I was little. I was standing at the window watching the rain, and I asked her where the rain went. She says she answered that it went into the ground and got absorbed there. Then I apparently asked: if the rain goes into the ground does it put out the fire in hell? I guess I must have been listening to some church sermons more than they realized.

    Today is a sunny sunny day. Absolutely beautiful, and the air smells yummy. I am making a chicken pie to take to the widower. Yesterday I heard that he doesn't know how to cook, mow the lawn, pay the bills, or take care of himself in any way. He's got a lot to learn, but at least some of us can help with food for a stretch.

    Debbie, I am glad to hear Daniel is back to normal. He sounds like such a sweetie.

    Love to all my sisters,

    Anna
  • kim825
    kim825 Member Posts: 284
    edited November 2006
    Anna, I am so sorry to hear about your friend.
    Margerie, I am pretty sure Tykerb is not for us Triple Negatives. I hope the Doxil is the key to this stubborn mets.
    Deb, thank you for the book. I was looking for something new to read. I am glad daniel is feeling better.
    Odalys, hope you are feeling better today!

    have a great weekend everyone.
    Love,
    Kim
  • Margerie
    Margerie Member Posts: 526
    edited November 2006
    Anna- somehow I missed that your friend passed away. I am so very sorry. It is so nice of you to remember her husband.

    Kim- I have been watching Tykerb like a hawk. It just got fast-tracked by the FDA and will be available mid-march. Maybe your onc can test for Her-1/VEGFR.

    "multikinase inhibitors have one distinct advantage over Herceptin. By targeting multiple pathways, they all show potential to treat a range of tumor types, particularly lung cancer. Some people also hope that these drugs will show activity in breast cancer patients who aren't HER-2 positive.

    "By no means are we limiting our development program to only HER2-positive patients," GSK's Stein says. Though the most advanced trials for Tykerb are focused on HER2-positive patients, Stein says there is evidence that the drug could find use in the wider population of breast cancer patients. "Although the response rate was higher in the HER2-positive population, there were responders in the HER2-negative population as well," he notes.

    To date, drugs that inhibit only HER1, such as Iressa and Tarceva, have not been shown to be active against breast cancer. The inactivity leads oncologists to believe the HER1 pathway does not play a major role in the disease, Gralow says.

    Yet evidence is emerging that the HER1 pathway is critical in a few smaller HER2-negative groups of breast cancer patients. Multikinase inhibitors show promise in patients with inflammatory breast cancer, and some data indicate that pankinase inhibitors may be effective in treating a rare and aggressive subtype of breast cancer known as "triple negative," because patients are estrogen-receptor-, progesterone-receptor-, and HER2-negative. In these patients, the cancer cells tend to overexpress HER1, a pathway knocked out by the drugs from GSK, Wyeth, Exelixis, and Array.

    GSK is interested in studying Tykerb in that subpopulation, but the company also acknowledges that a lot of firms are also eyeing the role of HER1 in triple-negative breast cancer. Already-approved drugs such as Iressa, Tarceva, and ImClone's Erbitux could be used to target the disease.

    In the end, having a variety of small-molecule drugs targeting different receptors is "really exciting−a huge advance," Gralow says. With the range of treatment options opening up, Gralow believes that in just a few years, breast cancer will be treated in different, much more specific ways. "We'll be using less chemotherapy and getting less toxicity," she says.


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  • Odalys
    Odalys Member Posts: 2,103
    edited November 2006
    Quote:

    Then I apparently asked: if the rain goes into the ground does it put out the fire in hell? I guess I must have been listening to some church sermons more than they realized.





    Anna, it sounds like a logical question. LOL
  • AnnaM
    AnnaM Member Posts: 1,387
    edited November 2006
    Why don't families get along?

    Why is family the hardest part of my life?

    All I want is love all around.
  • Odalys
    Odalys Member Posts: 2,103
    edited November 2006
    I'm reminded of the famous Beatles song...All we need is love, love, love, love is all we need...

    Don't know the answer to these questions. I wish I did, but I agree. BC is hard enough!!! I'm always amazed at the various types of coping mechanisms and levels of dysfunctional families around. Mine no exception! Heck, aren't we all dysfunctional???? This is a long journey and we've been on this rollercoaster ride for a year now, folks are starting to relax around us and behave in their old ways. (Just my opionion.)

    Take care my friend. I hope you can find a peaceful resolution to your family dilemma.

    Love and Hugs....
  • kim825
    kim825 Member Posts: 284
    edited November 2006
    Thanks for the information Margerie. I am going to mention it to oncologist.

    Anna, many hugs for you.
  • Mary-Lou
    Mary-Lou Member Posts: 2,230
    edited November 2006
    I had to share....be sure and do this with the children in your life too.

    http://www.star28.net/snow.html

    I will post more later, to much going on this week. I do want to wish you all a happy Thanksgiving.

    I know that I'm very thankful for all of you and will be thinking of you as I say a prayer at Thanksgiving.
  • Odalys
    Odalys Member Posts: 2,103
    edited November 2006
    Wishing everyone a Happy Thanksgiving. God Bless you and your family.
    image

    Love and Hugs...
  • kim825
    kim825 Member Posts: 284
    edited November 2006
    I hope you all have a wonderful Thanksgiving. I am so thankful for all of you my sisters.

    love,
    Kim
  • LAT56
    LAT56 Member Posts: 79
    edited November 2006
    Wishing you all a very Happy Thanksgiving!
    LAT56
  • AnnaM
    AnnaM Member Posts: 1,387
    edited November 2006
    I needed those penguins, Mary Lou.

    I hope all my sisters are having a peaceful weekend. I send you my love.

    Anna
  • Margerie
    Margerie Member Posts: 526
    edited November 2006
    Gobble, gobble.

    Sending my love,
    Margerie
  • Mary-Lou
    Mary-Lou Member Posts: 2,230
    edited November 2006
    image I wanted to share this with my sisters on this beautiful Sunday. I just thought it was breath taking.

    Hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving. I did, but ate way to much.

    But it was so good.

    I have weigh in tomorrow. We will see. I had a gain for two weeks. Then last week a loss of 3.2. I'm sure I will be up and down now till the first of the year. Still waiting for the new grand baby. I hung his stocking this morning.

    The tree is up and lights are hung outside.

    I'm so ready for a good Christmas this year. I know you all are too!

    Love you all
  • Odalys
    Odalys Member Posts: 2,103
    edited November 2006
    Mary Lou.
    Awsome sight! Great shot, did you take the picture? Sounds like you've been having fun. We had a very nice Thanksgiving weekend. Yes, I ate way to much. Hopefully I was able to burn some fat/calories since Steven kept me on the go all weekend long. Being an only child, he is always bored so I end up having to entertain him. His best friends moved out of state so now we need to find him another palymate(s). I'm so grateful to be able to keep up with him again. This year we plan to celebrate with friends and family. I'm hoping we can host Christmas (traditional noche buena on 12/24) in our house this year. Tree is up, started to decorate the house and even planted some annuals in the front yard. Christmas cards are next. What a difference a year makes.

    Love and hugs,

    PS: Last year DH had to rush me to the hospital after Thanksgiving dinner because I was in such pain from the FEC 100 chemo cocktail. I slept through the rest of the weekend thanks to Oxycotin (sp?). Thank God for getting me(us) through that.
  • AnnaM
    AnnaM Member Posts: 1,387
    edited November 2006
    Yes, we have come a long way....

    I love trees. Thank you for that picture, Mary Lou! That is truly a beauty.

    I'm still feeling pretty low. We just found out that we will have to put a horse down on Friday. He just isn't doing well and has lost too much weight. He's 27, but that isn't all that old for a horse, especially a retired one like he is. He's a red Irish thoroughbred and was a real king in his heyday. It's going to hurt my husband the most....

    I've been running around a lot lately. Need to sit and think a while. Thanksgiving was pretty hard. Those family issues. Somehow I thought they might have disappeared while I had bc, but I guess they didn't.

    Love to all,

    Anna
  • Margerie
    Margerie Member Posts: 526
    edited November 2006
    Yes, life goes on for better and worse. Those family issues- not for the faint of heart. We are lucky that we were able to distance ourselves from our problem family members. My diagnosis gave me the courage to say enough! Life has been good on the family front ever since.

    Anna- so sorry about your horse. It is a hard decision to make- putting an animal down. I bawled buckets when we had to put our senior cats down. I knew it was the right thing to do, both were suffering, but it was still hard. And compound that with the fact that humans are not allowed the same compassion for themselves- makes for an emotional time (for me anyway).

    I hope all my sisters do well this holiday season. I know a lot of you have treatments/decisions ahead of you and it is hard to find peace and joy!

    I have exciting things going on- in 2 weeks surgery- oh boy another one. Thyroid coming out, chemo port in my upper arm going in. I elected to do another year of herceptin and my veins are crapping out, going under the knife anyway............ Not looking forward to 2 more scars- will wear scarves for awhile (neck). Hopefully thyroid pathology will come out benign.


    Then, hopefully, I will be flying up to Seattle for my first Her2 vaccine. We are going to Lake Tahoe Christmas week. In January, I get to decorate my new breasts and get some much needed thigh lipo. I can not wait to get all of these surgeries (5 in 16 months) over with. Maybe I will muster up a cartwheel or two after that last one.

    Oh, and I had to get on the scale at the onc's office yesterday!! Decided my new shoes must weigh 10 pounds.

    Take care friends and angels,

    Margerie
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2006
    Hello, Dear sisters! Just wanted you to know I have missed you all trememdously, and hope you all had a beautiful Thanksgiving! It was nice to celebrate like normal folk, wasn't it?
    Just found out I might be ready for my exchange surgery by the end of the year?!?!? Ick....I just healed from the last one! How am I going to feel from this one?
    Gotta go-more later, though!
    Love and prayers to all, Deb
    PS-When do we meet?!?!?!?!?
  • Odalys
    Odalys Member Posts: 2,103
    edited November 2006
    Yeah…Hurricane Season ends today without any major storms.

    Have a great day. Love and hugs to everyone

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