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  • Jerseygirl927
    Jerseygirl927 Member Posts: 438
    edited February 2016

    sharigal sorry late getting back to you, but been off the boards for awhile, had that cold/ cough issue going around for about 2 weeks a little better, the runny nose issue is common, also with chemo you loose your nose hairs so that's the reason for the runs, and bloody because of thinning in lining, do the Vaseline thing, and will be awhile with the nose hairs as long as herceptin is going on, it will be better. I am down in Atlantic city area, so yes we could meet if you want to, when you are good and up to it. We have a Gildas near us, and go to many of the functions. This July we will be hosting the dragon boat races for those who have had BC. Very big event on east coast. Last year it was in Vit.

    Fighter girl, I chose double mastectomy with no recon my choice. If I choose to wear a bra with cups, I can be any size I want,usually for church or nice function. But it's really whatever anyone is comfortable, saw too many lopsided recons and didn't need the extra surgeries.

    Stay well all

  • Bluefrog76
    Bluefrog76 Member Posts: 260
    edited February 2016

    JerseyGirl: if there is a New Jersey get-together I'd love to be included. I'm in Cherry Hill.

    Baby gurl: I can honestly say one of the highlights of every 3 weeks is my interaction with my oncologist. I've told her this many times, but in addition to her clinical expertise and the fact that she is, indeed, prolonging my life, her demeanor brings me great comfort and hope. She gives me so much time and attention; it's always me who signals when the appointment is over. She asks about my kids, my husband. I'm fine with tolerating some of the side effects; she still pushes to get me even more relief. I have literally put my life in her hands. I couldn't do so if I didn't feel respected and cared for. You deserve the same.

  • JerseyGirl22
    JerseyGirl22 Member Posts: 342
    edited February 2016

    Hi Warrior women! If there is a New Jersey/PA get together, I'd love to try and make it... I'm in NJ, rural area SW of Rowan...Bluefrog, I'm not too far from you, depending on where you are in Cherry Hill...

  • DurhamGirl
    DurhamGirl Member Posts: 100
    edited February 2016

    Hi everyone! I think this may be the first time I've posted here. I just had my first Herceptin/Perjeta only (i.e. no chemo) infusion on Tuesday and had terrible muscle aches on Wednesday and today. I didn't have this with the full TCHP infusions. Did anyone else have muscle/joint pain like this from HP only? If so, did it happens oth each infusion? It just made me want to climb back into bed and not move at all.

  • rleepac
    rleepac Member Posts: 755
    edited February 2016

    Herceptin wipes me out. I feel like I got hit by a truck for 2-4 days after infusion. My infusion nurses have told me they've never heard of that kind of reaction before. I told them I'm not making this shit up!

    Sorry...but to be told that your symptoms aren't from what they are pumping in you is like a slap in the face. I wish they would just admit it...it's not as benign as they think!

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited February 2016

    durham - how fast is your infusion?  I had issues with this with my first H only infusion (I did not receive Perjeta, was not approved yet), and I had not had issues during TCH.  When combined with chemo I had H over 90 minutes, but this first H only was done in 30 mins.  I asked to slow the infusion back to 90 minutes and had no further issues.

  • Tresjoli2
    Tresjoli2 Member Posts: 868
    edited February 2016

    i also had a really hard time with my first herceptin only. I'm also having itching the first few days after herceptin. I have slowed the infusion down to 90 minutes and it has helped tremendously.

  • Jerseygirl927
    Jerseygirl927 Member Posts: 438
    edited February 2016

    had hercepton today, no reactions luckily have only 1 more of these treatments, then done. In the cherry hill area at Virtua they had a THRIVE event last year that I came to, so if they have another one I plan to go, but have not heard yet. It was in April last year. Will keep you gals posted. My breast surgeon is at virtua in vorhees . Love her, keeps me calm and very caring too.

  • mltdd
    mltdd Member Posts: 87
    edited February 2016

    Hi all. My MO thinks most of my SE are due to the Perjeta. She has given me the option of taking it out and the mix. I've had 2 rounds so far. Does anyone have experience with this?

  • rleepac
    rleepac Member Posts: 755
    edited February 2016

    I seem to be the side effect queen but the only thing I really had with the Perjeta was horrible diarrhea

  • Lookforward
    Lookforward Member Posts: 392
    edited February 2016

    hi rleepac

    My infusions were given in 30 minutes as well, l had severe pain a couple of times. I had so much pain in my legs on my second last treatment I could barely walk, the next day most of the pain was gone. I told my nurse and she said she never heard of of this. The herceptin also flared my lymphedema a couple of times, I have not had a problem since I finished treatment. I wish that i knew that longer infusion times would have helped

  • rleepac
    rleepac Member Posts: 755
    edited February 2016

    My infusions are 90 minutes but it still seems to hit me hard. I guess we're just anomalies

  • Lookforward
    Lookforward Member Posts: 392
    edited February 2016

    I was in an exercise study for cancer and was told by the physical therapist running the program, that they are finding more problems with herceptin as time goes on. My blood pressure was up and down all the time as well. My hair did not start to really grow until I finished treatment, I am enjoying my 3 inch locks now

  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited February 2016

    High blood pressure runs in my family; I've joked that we're the "stroke family" because so many of my older family members have died from or been debilitated by strokes. My blood pressure was awesome through chemo but did go up once I switched to Herceptin alone. But, BP was still high even after Herceptin. I'm now on three drugs for HBP, and it's within normal range.

  • JerseyGirl22
    JerseyGirl22 Member Posts: 342
    edited February 2016

    rleepac, I get the same thing with Herceptin only, even with it slowed down... I feel like I've got full-on flu for 2-4 days... A friend, who is a nurse, says she wishes doctors would listen with regard to SEs. She says, "When a patient comes in a they are saying this is happening, or that is happening, chances are its something we (the medical people) have done to them....

    Durhamgirl, I get thigh cramps the first day or two of every Herceptin infusion...

  • KateB79
    KateB79 Member Posts: 747
    edited February 2016

    Herceptin + rads = more fatigue for me--as in, I was yawning through yoga class this morning and might take a nap this afternoon before a big meeting.

    Herceptin alone, when I have them run it over 60 minutes and then stay for the rest of the bag of fluids, makes me feel a tiny bit off for about 48 hours. Over 30 minutes, the first time, I felt like I got hit by a freight train. My MO's response? "Maybe you had a little bit of the flu." Chortle. Admittedly, I could have still been recovering from TC, but I'm a big, big fan of occam's razor.

    I'm okay with this, as I believe Herceptin to be the magic juice. Fingers crossed that the next echo looks good, though I've heard of a couple of studies that show six months of Herceptin is still pretty great for HER2+.

  • mltdd
    mltdd Member Posts: 87
    edited February 2016

    Of all the SE I've experienced, I'm finding the ones related to eating (sore mouth, diarrhea, taste changes, abdominal pain) to be the hardest. Last round I was able to eat a few things like milkshakes, apple juice, grape juice and ice cream that tasted "normal". This round I can hardly handle anything. I gag at the thought of having to take food with my medication. I am wondering if anyone has resorted to IV nutrients?

  • Jerseygirl927
    Jerseygirl927 Member Posts: 438
    edited February 2016

    I know this is going to sound harsh, but they don't seem to have anything else for our type of cancer, so the side effects are what we have to put up with. Or take our chances with no hercepton, and hope we never get a recurrence. I think that is why the Drs don't pay much attention unless it is so severe that the SE could kill us. Then they have to make a decision to lower the dose if they can, or stop treatment all together. That's all they have for now.

  • Moonflwr912
    Moonflwr912 Member Posts: 6,856
    edited February 2016

    tThey had to cut my Herceptin off when my EF dropped to lower 40s.. I wish I could have finished. They had to cut my TCH as well. When i protested and asked if it would still work my MO said ( this was when I was in the hospital from kidney problems caused in part from chemo)

    " You have to be ALIVE for any of this to work."

    Yeah put it all in perspective. Take crap cause it helps, but don't take too much crap cause you could die. Pretty much said it all right there. LOL. BTW it's almost 4 years since I first started chemo.

    Much love

  • NicoleIsASurvivor
    NicoleIsASurvivor Member Posts: 21
    edited February 2016

    Thank u all who resoonded to my post! Sorry for posting so late...my internet has been out. This has been very hard on me and for me. Yes I am changing oncologist... Going to do some research before switching. I had 12 Taxol infusions...I finished my chemo and start Herceptin this Tues. Wish me luck...I hope to start feeling better soon. Having joint and muscle pain..pretty bad and feel 90 years old. I definitely need more support and going to join a local group... I didn't join earlier, because I wasn't ready to do face to face type thing, but I think I'm ready now.Thank you all again!!! Xoxo

  • KHinMD
    KHinMD Member Posts: 44
    edited February 2016

    There is always hope for better treatments in the future, not that Herceptin and Perjeta haven't been promising. Shortly after I was diagnosed, I noticed a company I was interested in applying to at the time has an antibody in development to treat HER2+ BC. It is in Phase 3 of clinical trials, typically the last step before FDA approval. I'm a biochemist at a pharmaceutical company. I perform testing on monoclonal antibodies for treatment of certain autoimmune diseases, respiratory ailments, and cancers to make sure they are safe for use commercially and in clinical trials. Herceptin and Perjeta are also monoclonal antibodies, so the methods used to test them are probably similar to the ones I use. Interesting how I am now on the side of testing antibodies and the side of receiving them as a patient.

    mltdd - I am right there with you on the SEs related to eating being the worst. I feel like things wouldn't be half as bad if I didn't lose my appetite due to not being able to stand the taste of food. I always joke that I hope someone isn't trying to poison me, because I wouldn't be able to tell. My taste usually gets better once I reach the halfway point in between treatments, which I just passed. I haven't taken IV nutrients, but my MO mentioned trying Boost or Ensure. Even though drinking it would be involved, which is just as bad as eating sometimes, I was going to try using a straw. I've never tried either, so I am going to try them before my next treatment to get a feel for how they taste now when my taste is somewhat normal.

    Babygurlwarren - It's good to hear that you are changing oncologists and joining a support group. Best of luck with your Herceptin treatments, and I hope you start to feel better soon.

  • TripleP
    TripleP Member Posts: 21
    edited February 2016

    Fightergirl - I think second guessing is another SE of this type of cancer. Even though I opted for every treatment available, I am still second guessing - did I start treatments soon enough etc. I recently wrote the following message to a cancer friend:

    Mentally - I would like to say I am brave but would be lying. I am scared and constantly waiting for the other shoe to drop. The kind of cancer I have has a tendency to return in the first 5 years if it comes back. When I feel the slightest twinge, I am scared the big C is back. I can understand why people say that some have PTSD after cancer. Example - I have been suffering from severe dizziness since returning from a trip. When I went to oncologist he ordered a cat scan of brain but also sinuses. Sure enough, it is an acute sinus infection but only symptoms are slight headache, serious vertigo, and fatigue. No runny nose or anything. I held my breath until test results returned. I have seriously become a wimp. I wonder if I will ever be normal again. I try to put on the brave face but actually I am a mental mess. Cancer messes with your head!

    Just a warning there are mental as well as physical side effects. The Arimidex really makes me hurt but I guess I would rather hurt than do chemo again for metastatic breast cancer. Oh, the choices we have to make

  • ashla
    ashla Member Posts: 1,581
    edited February 2016

    For those who are having issues with issues with eating....taste, appetite, texture...I found watermelon was something that always went down easy. Must have eaten it most every day for the entire chemo regimen. And surprisingly I was not put off of it. Still love it. Like an old, dear friend.

  • mltdd
    mltdd Member Posts: 87
    edited February 2016

    Thanks ashla. The watermelon will also help with the dehydration.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited February 2016

    I second the watermelon, and other melon too - I ate them all through chemo.  I also had frozen smoothies.  I also ate potatoes in any form, often with something salty added.  I could taste the salty part (cheese or bacon) and the blandness of the potato did not upset anything.

    triple P - this gets better with time - there are a few of us who still post here that are five years out or longer - time helps.

  • Musosgirl
    Musosgirl Member Posts: 387
    edited February 2016
    I am at the Herceptin only stage and have diahrrea, runny nose, and feel blah for a couple of days. This last treatment, just this past Thursday, has aggrevated my neuropathy something fierce. Anyone else have H do that? My hands and feet were doing really well but by Thursday night/Friday morning I could barely walk. *sigh*

    Overall feeling really good--radiation begins this week though. I hope the next 6-7 weeks go fast.
  • rleepac
    rleepac Member Posts: 755
    edited February 2016

    TripleP - I know exactly how you feel and I am the same way. Our stats are similar as was diagnosis date. I think this is a normal phase we are going through but I still feel it will be back any time now.

    I hope time will heal us both physically and mentally

  • Jerseygirl927
    Jerseygirl927 Member Posts: 438
    edited February 2016

    yes mental thoughts are there always, only choice is grin and bear it for now. Last hercepton March 10 day after my birthday and I'll take it. As for side effects, guess they have been minimal for the most part except for neuropathy in feet I hope the appetite goes back to normal, cause I am always starving. And I have gained weight from all of this. Opposite side effects for me. Hug gals

  • Moonflwr912
    Moonflwr912 Member Posts: 6,856
    edited February 2016

    For food during tx, just like Special said, i could eat white things. Potatoes. Mozzarella cheese. oatmeal. Or grits. For some reason it went in easier. And cold things went down ok too. Probably because cold things were not as intense. I couldn't do any fruits and most veg. My drink of choice was watered down cold ice tea. And I still drink iced tea. It's not so much that stuff tasted good, more that it didn't taste bad.

    I had to come off H early. So I envy those who can finish it.

    Much love.

  • debiann
    debiann Member Posts: 1,200
    edited February 2016

    Six months after finishing chemo, I was talking to my MO about some of the residual side effects I still had going on like peeling nails, sore nose, tingly feet, and a body that just felt worn out and old. His response, "Well we did poison you." Funny, they don't call it poison when you're in treatment.

    But time is a good healer. Yoga is helping me regain strength and it's really relaxing.

    For those in active treatment, it's a rough road, but things will get better. Good luck to you all.

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