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  • virginia123
    virginia123 Member Posts: 21
    edited February 2016

    DecisionFreak - You are doing great, hang in there! You are fighting two battles at once - your mother's and your own, and you are strong. I want you to check out www.cleaningforareason.org and see if you can't get some help for both you and your mom. Sounds like you live in a rural area but maybe they can reach you. If you live anywhere near Richmond, VA I will drive to your house myself and clean and do your laundry and bring you dinner :) I drove my car for the first time today post-surgery, it was awesome.

  • grandma3X
    grandma3X Member Posts: 759
    edited February 2016

    Kessa - good to hear that the lump was not something to worry about!


    Jr114- I'm glad you were able to get your drains out!


    DecisionFreak - I had to drive into Baltimore yesterday for my appointment and ouch! I think I felt every bump in the road! So I'm hoping you have a smooth ride to your post op appointment.


    My shoulder still hurts from the fill yesterday. Not much pain in the muscle as I had expected. I also noticed the increase in volume seems to have gone into upper part of my TE and not much difference in the actual breast area. Is this normal? My next fill is next Thurs.
  • Jr114
    Jr114 Member Posts: 69
    edited February 2016

    Decisionfreak I couldn't imagine dealing with both your and your moms health decisions. Hang in there and take it day to day. Good luck at your post op!!

    Grandma3x- I am not sure if the saline settles as you go on. They filled me with 180cc at time of surgery and it seemed that the pain shifted over the first couple days. Not sure if that was just from the surgery or from the shift in fluid.


  • Moondust
    Moondust Member Posts: 510
    edited February 2016

    Please add me to this great group. My surgery was 1/15/2016. Lumpectomy w/ Sentinel Node Biopsy. I had a consult with the RO today but still waiting for OncoType results.

  • DecisionFreak
    DecisionFreak Member Posts: 589
    edited February 2016

    Jr114,

    Hmmm...I have some blue skin, but I did not have dye. Well, another thing not to worry about till I see the BS and the PS later this week.

    Cheers, everybody. Deep breaths.

  • Logang
    Logang Member Posts: 421
    edited February 2016

    I am a week and one day out from surgery. I had a follow up with my surgeon today. My rash from the chloraprep is getting much better. I had one drain out of 3 pulled today. My surgeon is a little OCD and will only pull one drain a week. I have swelling in my armpit and upper arm and that is where most of my pain is. I did find out that he took 31 nodes, so I have a better understanding of my pain. Now we wait for the oncotype results! Glad to see posts about everyones progress! I would love to keep in touch on this thread!

  • BlueHeron
    BlueHeron Member Posts: 154
    edited February 2016

    wow, Logang! Do you know why they took out 31 nodes?

    And one drain out.... That's progress

  • Logang
    Logang Member Posts: 421
    edited February 2016

    He told us right after surgery that he took a lot because they looked abnormal and he didn't feel right leaving them in. He said they were rubbery. They also looked abnormal compared to the left axilla nodes when I had my MRI with contrast. I am just glad they all came back clear!

  • virginia123
    virginia123 Member Posts: 21
    edited February 2016

    Welcome Moondust. Sounds like you have a shot at avoiding chemo just like me. I did MammaPrint instead of Oncotype and came back low risk so I'm ahead of you there, but I can't get a conclusive HER2 test. Waiting on results from test #3. Should know by Friday.

  • Mominator
    Mominator Member Posts: 1,575
    edited February 2016

    Jr114: my drains came out once output was less than 30 ml for two whole days. So that's about the same for you.

    You had a mini-debridement. Onward and upward. Hope you're healing well.

  • Jr114
    Jr114 Member Posts: 69
    edited February 2016

    Thanks Mominator for that response. I was up most of the night worrying that they came out too soon. However felt good to not carry them around.


  • edwsmom
    edwsmom Member Posts: 346
    edited February 2016

    hi everybody. Checking in and catching up on ll your posts.

    I had skin sparing bilateral mastectomy with axillary dissection on the left side. They were able to go straight to implant and they removed my nipples and grafted them back on. My surgery was 1 week ago so I go in to meet with the breast surgeon today for follow up and meet with the PS tomorrow morning for follow up with him. Fingers crossed that everything is good.

    I'm super nervous to get the results of the pathology report. I could use some prayers for NED. Scary.

    So far recovery has been much more manageable than I expected. I have 2 drains, which are annoying, but truly no big deal. My drains are still putting out quite a bit of liquid. Like 50 cc's in the morning and again the evening on the right side. The drain on the left has been putting out about half of what the right side is putting out and the liquid is more clear.

    Anyway. Gearing my nerves up for this next step. Really hope everything goes well.

    I couldn't have gotten through all of this without you all. Thank you so much for your support


  • Mominator
    Mominator Member Posts: 1,575
    edited February 2016

    edwsmom: I'm with you about drains: annoying but not big deal. I'm glad that you're healing well. Straight to implant is a nice option, less surgeries (and less doctor visits). Mostly, I'm praying for NED for you.

  • woodstock99
    woodstock99 Member Posts: 338
    edited February 2016

    Week 3 - BMX no recon: is anyone having a worse time week 3 then week 2? For whatever reason I am both physically & emotionally. I felt like I had overdone it last week with visitors & being on computer a lot working from home but yesterday was week 3 since surgery and I still feel awful. My chests hurts, my armpits are so sore, I can't get comfortable, nothing feels comfortable to wear (no bra, soft bra, compression bra, camisole), still swollen in a spot benind my shoulder and in the middle of my chest like look like mini-boobs, drains have been out for a week but still slightly oozing daily, if I don't take percocet/valium/neurontin3x/day I really hurt & if I do, I get very tired. I practically fell asleep on a conference call yesterday & thankfully was on mute and no one asked me anything, I am afraid to drive. I am afraid to go back to work next week. I have no idea what to wear. I don't even feel like I can carry a purse and my tote bag that I take work to/from office with me. I have started my exercises but I feel so helpless. I am short (5'5") so hard to reach anything, Sorry for griping and I know no one here really knows. I guess maybe I need to ask some of the Nov or Dec women how long it took to feel ok. Sorry for griping but yesterday & today are bad days & I don't even know why. I went to sleep at 11, woke up at 1:30 & could not get back to sleep until almost 4, woke up at 7 and am exhausted again so going back to bed. If anyone has figured this out yet, help! Thanks.

  • grandma3X
    grandma3X Member Posts: 759
    edited February 2016

    Welcome, moondust!

    Logan's - so happy your nodes are negative - That must be a big relief knowing that they looked funny on MRI! Have you been referred to a lymphadema specialist?

    Jr114 - my drains came out at 8 days postop. I think the criteria was that they each had to be putting out <20 cc's per day.

    Edwsmom - I'm glad you are doing well. I have never heard of grafting the nipple back on - what is that? My BS took a sample just below the nipple for analysis since I was having nipple-sparing surgery, but it came back positive so I will have to have it removed. I'm debating about whether to go for nipple sparing surgery on my other side - if I get a tattoo on the side without a nipple, will they be able to match the real one?

    Today is 3 weeks post surgery for me. I meet with the RO and MO tomorrow so I've been trying to go through the literature to see what might be in store for me. At this point, I think radiation is a distinct possibility, but I doubt the MO will recommend chemo. Will he put me on an AI while I wait for the Oncotype dx results? How about if I have rads- will I be able to take AIs if I'm on rads? The worst part of this is the waiting around for treatment to begin!

    Hope you all have a wonderful Wednesday!

  • grandma3X
    grandma3X Member Posts: 759
    edited February 2016

    Balthus - I'm so sorry you are feeling worse! I wonder if your doctor could try prescribing another pain med or sleeping med that would at least help you sleep better at night! I've been taking 2 Tylenol PM before bed and sleep like a rock. I think that getting a good night sleep has helped immensely with pain and with lowering my anxiety.

    My armpit is also sore where they did the SN dissection. I've been putting a premie diaper between my skin and bra to keep it from rubbing and that seems to help.

    I also have a kind of dog-eared look with a bulge over my incision under my arm. I have not asked the PS about it yet, but I plan to ask when I get my next fill. I think it's just normal swelling that should go away with time - maybe someone from last year's surgery group would be able to answer that?
  • woodstock99
    woodstock99 Member Posts: 338
    edited February 2016

    GRANDMA3X - Thank you.

    I already take Ambien CR every night so I am not sure about taking any more meds. I think because I took a nap yesterday for about an an hour from 4-5 & fell asleep for almost 2 hours on the couch watching TV with DH that probably contributed to not sleeping thru the nite & waking up very crabby today.

    Maybe I will try the diaper suggestion.

    I hope these ugly things go away eventually.

    I am not doing recon & was real clear to BS to make me flat & not save any skin.

    Sorry just really grouchy today.

  • Mominator
    Mominator Member Posts: 1,575
    edited February 2016

    Good morning, Balthus,

    I am one of the November surgeries women, as well as January. I am 12 weeks out from BMX and 2.5 weeks out from my exchange.

    It was mostly a gradual recovery from each surgery. The BMX was much harder than the exchange, but my exchange included a lot of pocket work and additional tissue removed. I had some set-backs, including a debridement at 3 weeks from BMX and a major infection at 10 days from exchange.

    However, I was just thinking this morning, I feel pretty good! I'm getting over the infection. Nothing really hurts, and my range of motion is really improving. I am even shorter at 5' 2", so I have been stretching more. I was just wondering when I'll swap out these darn button-down tops and start wearing my usual over-the-head jerseys.

    We all heal differently. But since you were improving steadily, and now feel more tired, you may have overdid it last week.

  • virginia123
    virginia123 Member Posts: 21
    edited February 2016

    Yes Balthus, you maybe just overdid it. We are all anxious to recover as quickly as possible. Be sure to listen to your body talk to you, and slow down when it tells you to do so. Try some movie therapy, preferably with a glass of wine.

    I thought I was sailing through, but have a huge and very sore lump under my arm today. Feels like the BS just cut out my tumor and moved it over a few inches. But thanks to this thread, I am certain it is just an angry lymph node.

  • Kiks1
    Kiks1 Member Posts: 254
    edited February 2016

    Hi Balthus, know how you feel. I had my bmx with no recon in Dec 2015 and felt worse on 3rd week. I was trying to fight the  sleep thing too. It started because I decided to wean myself off xanax and then, I think all the anxiety took over. I finally resolved to just accepting my plight and slept whenever my body would allow me to. It did get better but I am resigned to the fact that my treatments are still a long way out and I have still to deal with so much anxiety. 

    On the bright side, my physical self has been steadily improving since, and it isn't a concern I have at this time. I am SHORT ( @ 5'), so you think that I should be an expert about reaching for things by now.  I did go see a PT and that has helped tremendously with cording  and range of motion. I even started doing walks and short runs since.

    I think our mental health is more challenging. All the worrying makes us even more tired. We think we will sprint right back into the race. I am beginning to realize the reality of our situation. I try to tell myself that everyone of us heals differently and we just can only do what we can. 

    One day, one step, one breath at a time. Well wishes to you and all.


  • Logang
    Logang Member Posts: 421
    edited February 2016

    grandma3x- Thank you. I met with the lymphedema clinic for baseline measurements prior my surgery so they can keep an eye out for issues.

  • Moondust
    Moondust Member Posts: 510
    edited February 2016

    Hi everyone. I had my lumpectomy almost 3 weeks ago. Only one node removed -- I asked my surgeon why only one and she said "that's all you gave me". Not sure what that means, maybe that only one node showed up strongly on the nuclear scan, and she didn't feel any suspicious ones. I get the feeling she did a super good job on my surgery. But she seems ultra conservative about resuming activities. She said not to do any range of motion exercises for three weeks, and begin the "spider crawl" at week 4. And not drive at all for 2 weeks even though I have no drains. Other literature I have read says to resume semi-normal activity after just a few days and start ROM exercises as soon as drains are removed or one week if no drains.

    So far I haven't needed anything for pain. I feel very fortunate (so far).

    The worst part of the experience was the wire insert and then the nuclear injections for the node scan. Ouch!! Since I had a marker implanted during the biopsy, why did they even need to put in a wire? I don't understand that part and didn't think to ask.

    I admit to being very phobic about lymphedema even with just the one node taken. There is only one local specialist and her calendar is full for over 3 months. I was told that if I don't have it, don't even bother to try to get an appt with her. So I marked dots on both arms at 1.5 inch intervals and have been doing regular measurements. There is no sign of any swelling yet, and at least I've got a good set of baseline measurements. I am the most freaked out about how long after surgery lymphedema can appear, and no one seems to know why it acts that way.

    So now I'm waiting for the OncoType score. If it is low enough, I'll have radiation and then AI pills. Otherwise, chemo first.

  • Logang
    Logang Member Posts: 421
    edited February 2016

    Moondust: Glad to hear you are recovering well. My surgeon has very strict post op restrictions. I am not to move my arm to more than a 45 degree angle and can't lift over a pound with that arm. No driving while drains are in. I had 3, but he removed one yesterday. The nurse told me that he almost always only pulls one drain a week which is crazy! All 3 drains were draining only 5-10cc the last few days. Maybe he will pull both next week?!

  • grandma3X
    grandma3X Member Posts: 759
    edited February 2016
    Moondust - I also had only 1 node removed. It bothered me a great deal that more were not taken (how can we be sure that 1 little node is representative of nodal status?) but there is nothing I can do about it, so I've decided to let it go. I couldn't feel any of the nodes before surgery and they didn't see anything abnormal by ultrasound or by MRI, so the BS was not willing to go in and pull more out.

    Balthus, no need to be sorry! Sending gentle ((hugs)) and hope you feel better soon. In the mean time, feel free to gripe!

    Virginia - I also have a lump just above my SN incision. I see the MO tomorrow and will be sure to ask about it.

    I think every surgeon must have a different set of rules with respect to excercise. I was told to use my arm as I normally would, as long as it didn't hurt, and nothing over 5 lbs. I kind of babied it the first week or so - I had heard that the less you move it, the quicker the drains come out. Not sure if that's really true, though.
  • virginia123
    virginia123 Member Posts: 21
    edited February 2016

    Moondust - Big difference between lumpectomy and mastectomy. Since we both had lumpectomy and no drains, I will tell you that my only restriction was 5 lb for 4 days. I am only a week out and I am doing almost all regular activities including driving. I am starting range of motion exercises with a personal trainer on Monday. I don't want to counter your doctor's instructions, but certainly you can start walking and stretching a little bit. Your instructions do seem quite conservative.


  • SVGsurvive
    SVGsurvive Member Posts: 87
    edited February 2016

    Welcome Moondust (great username!), your date is up in the list. Best of luck as you await your oncotype.

    Melgirl - I updated your entry as well, to reflect that your recon will come later.

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    Maine1965 - thinking of you today and wishing you a smooth op & recovery.

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    I've been MIA from our thread for 9 days but it feels like a month! I am so thankful to all of you for your sweet posts re: my PCR news. It still feels unreal. It probably always will.

    I'm on Day 19 now. As Jr114 similarly noted, I feel like the days that I'm more active - whether I want to be or not - are happier days in terms of discomfort - especially TE discomfort. Waking up is the worst, I'm stiff as a board. But after a warm shower and/or some movement I loosen up.

    Drove yesterday for 1st time (like virginia123, my Tuesday driving buddy!). Timidly went a few miles, then like a kid at Christmas I spent the whole day driving around and running errands. Slept like a log last night as a result.

    Mominator I finally caught up on pages n' pages of the Nov. surgery thread. You are my hero with how truly independent you've had to be, and yet managed to support two separate surgery sister groups while dealing w/ your own surgeries and complications. Unbelievable!

    Also to anyone working…..my BS was insistent I take a full 4 weeks offBalthus it's no wonder we think you must be overdoing it. Is there no time you can take for yourself as you find comfort, and take things slower? Your brain and body are shouting that it's too much.

    grandma3X, have you talked to your PS about rads and the TEs? Before I got the "no rads needed" confirmation last week, my PSNP said they'll want to expand me as much as possible before they have to deflate both TEs in prep for rads. Is that your understanding?

    Merymete - oh goodness what a mess! Isn't it crazy how if we saw ourselves during these healing stages on TV we'd immediately turn the channel, but this is OUR station. There's no turning it off. How resilient we all are. Good luck tomorrow at your PS appointment!

    stellamaris, I'm sorry to hear that your margins are so stubborn and an MX awaits you. Please don't beat yourself up for your original surgical decision. Hindsight is always 20/20. It's not fair to you! When do you anticipate getting your CAT scan results from Monday? P.S. that snow hike pic is gorgeous.

    27heart, how is your left wrist/arm doing? Has the swelling subsided since yesterday?

    edwsmom and all others awaiting test results, may patience be at your side & best wishes!

    Finally, a quick shout-out to barcelonagirl, BarredOwl & Kiks1 for hopping in this thread with info & support.

  • edwsmom
    edwsmom Member Posts: 346
    edited February 2016

    Hi guys,

    So back from my f/up with the breast surgeon. Mixed news from pathology. Not sure what to make of it.

    Apparently no cancer was found in either breast, so that's good. (thought I have an occult breast cancer/no primary was ever found). So I'm happy that nothing microscopic was found (things too small to be seen on MRI or PET)

    Initially, they saw only 1 node impacted on the left side. The TCHP reduced it from 3.4 cm to 1.1 cm.

    The surgery removed 21 nodes. Out of those, they identifies 2 with malignant cells - the one we knew about and another one. The report had very little information about the second one. It also mentioned that a small amount of malignant cells had escaped the lymph node and were found in the fatty tissue. That scares the heck out of me. I don't know what to think about that.

    I'm having radiation in a few weeks on that entire lymph area so they feel good that the radiation will help with that. Anyone know how effective that is?

    MY BS is going back to pathology with some more questions. She feels that the report was unclear in a few spots - it was hot off the presses today just in time for my appointment.

    I'm trying not to be scared...

  • stellamaris
    stellamaris Member Posts: 384
    edited February 2016
    SVGsurvive - I am very down today. The breast clinic called and told me the surgery was rescheduled to March 24th. I feel like I have been kicked to the curb to rot.
  • SVGsurvive
    SVGsurvive Member Posts: 87
    edited February 2016

    edwsmom, do they know (can they tell?) if those 2 nodes are also ER/PR/HER2+ so that you can feel assured that between targeted therapy and rads that you're gonna eradicate these stragglers? I hope so, so that you feel equipped and that you're hitting it from multiple angles.

    stellamaris, ugh what a wait to endure. Is this because of scheduling or their desire for you to heal from the lumpectomy first? Every day feels like a lifetime to someone in your situation, but if you trust your team and this won't add risk, then try to take this extra time to get yourself to 100% to make the MX even easier to handle.

    xoxo

    -SVG

  • stellamaris
    stellamaris Member Posts: 384
    edited February 2016
    SVGsurvive: This is strictly a scheduling issue. My first two surgeries have healed completely (last one was Dec. 2). I feel like reverting to a 2 year old right now and throwing one mother of a tantrum.

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