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  • Shopgal2
    Shopgal2 Member Posts: 649
    edited January 2016

    fearless the breathing technique I am having and posted about a few pages back expands my chest away from my heart. The sim mapped exactly where the rads would hit for whole breast. If the wasn't able to do the active breathing technique with the machine where I hold my breath, my ro said they would have me in the prone position then redo the rad plan and remap.

  • ctgal48
    ctgal48 Member Posts: 11
    edited January 2016

    Fearless 1956. I am also getting 16 treatments. This week I had treatments 9, 10, 11 12 and 13. It was during this week that I had considerable redness and considerable discomfort during the night. I got up to apply more cream, but it doesn't give me much relief. Most of the redness is on the outside area of the breast where it comes into contact with the arm and also under the breast. RO nurse told me to use cornstarch there and it did help. Redness was gone this morning but was back after my morning treatment. I only have 3 treatments left now. I'll be finished on Wednesday. Everyone reacts differently so you might have very mild SE. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. Good luck.

  • Suz-Q
    Suz-Q Member Posts: 205
    edited January 2016

    Here's my 2 cents worth on the short schedule (16 days 42.5 Gy and 5 days boost 10 Gy). I started turning slightly pink and I had very mild swelling at the beginning of week three. At that point my nipple was very sensitive to rubbing or touch. I started feeling a small amount of discomfort by the end of week three and my skin looked dryer under the cream I was using. I did not need any pain relief. Once I started my boost I had speckled areas from the top part of my treatment area that faded about half way down. Most of my redness is located under my arm. Once I started the boost my nipple quit hurting even though it was still in the treatment area of the boost. My skin got worse looking by the end of the first week after whole breast rads were finished. I'm three days done with the boost and everything. My boost area looks the same. I look a little tanner in the pink splotchy areas. I also started to feel a little more tired in the evening this week. I've not had any problems wearing normal underwire bras for the last two days. I've been able to work full time without any problems. I had my rads at 8:00 a.m. each morning and my employees never even knew. I did not want them knowing since I live and work in a small community. I am truly sorry for you ladies that have suffered and are still suffering. My experience wasn't too bad. I'm guessing it's because I have very small breasts.

    I went to a new MO yesterday and really liked her. I will be starting arimidex in two weeks. I didn't want to confuse any side effects from radiation with the AI.

  • shannondunlop
    shannondunlop Member Posts: 12
    edited January 2016

    Hello everyone.  I have a mere 7 treatments left to go - all of which are cone downs (or boosts as we all call them).  What I can say is that this has been a fairly easy and much less awful experience than I anticipated.  From day one, i used Aquaphor on my entire breast at night and about half way through, i started to get a little pink and pretty itchy.  At this point, I started using Aloe Vera on the whole breast right after treatment and still the Aquaphor at night.  My nipple was pretty darn tender about half way through, so I bought vitamin E capsules and broke them open and put the oil on the nip.  That helped with soothing.  So, now I am still itchy and the breast is sore and pink, however, this has been extremely doable.
    I did have fatigue that was difficult mid way through and this lasted about one week.  The techs explained to me that my body was busy regenerating the healthy cells that had been damaged by the radiation and this required alot of energy, hence, fatigue.  This made sense to me and let me know it was not all in my head.  So, lube the boob as they say from day one and all will be well.Happy

  • Suz-Q
    Suz-Q Member Posts: 205
    edited January 2016

    Oh, just wanted to add, my RO wouldn't let me use any topical antioxidants, take any antioxidants, or drink any antioxidants. So I have not taken any vitamin E, Fish Oil, C. I haven't used any creams with vitamin E or C in it either. I only use what he prescribed. I haven't had any tea, black, green, white or rooibos since the middle of December. I'm counting the days until I can sip hot tea on a cold night! My RO gave me a long list of supplements that I wasn't allowed to take. I want my cancer GONE, so I'm not tempting fate on this one!

  • LMC826
    LMC826 Member Posts: 4
    edited January 2016

    Hello - I've just had my 9th treatment, only 16 more to go! :) My question is for those of you that had a mastectomy w/reconstruction and have a TE in, are you seeing any changes to the TE? and have you noticed if it's staying in place or slightly moving up? My PS told me to make sure I push the TE down and wear a thick band to bed to make sure it doesn't ride up but I haven't noticed any changes yet..!

  • etnasgrl
    etnasgrl Member Posts: 650
    edited January 2016

    Lube the boob....love it!

    Happy

  • Shopgal2
    Shopgal2 Member Posts: 649
    edited January 2016

    lube the boob it is indeed

  • Fearless1956
    Fearless1956 Member Posts: 106
    edited January 2016

    KateB79 and Shopgal2--thanks for sharing the info about rads and the heart. I wasn't told much about what they were doing with the sim and my fault for not asking more questions about this. I see my RO on Monday, so I definitely plan to ask her.

    ctgal48--your info on your experience is very helpful. I realize we all respond differently but it helps to kind of have an idea of when to expect the changes. I will have finished day 9 a week from today and I was thinking that might be a time to start looking for changes in the skin. Thanks for sharing about the need to care more for the outside area of the breast. It makes sense for that area to be a little more sensitive to changes. I had already thought about under the breast being an area of concern. Guess I need to stock on up the corn starch since my boobs are rather droopy and beneath them doesn't get enough airing out.

    Suz-Q--thanks for sharing your story also. I haven't been paying enough attention to the underarm area and based on yours and ctgal48's comments, I now see that I need to focus on making sure I apply more cream there. I will "lube the boob" and buy cabbage this weekend to have it ready when I need it.

    I have found it interesting to read the comments about not taking the antioxidants also. It seems that has not even been mentioned by my RO or MO. Does this mean some of you have no intake of anti-oxidant foods either during radiation?

    I'm concerned about my nipple area and how it will respond to the radiation. My lumpectomy was at 12:00, right above the nipple (I have a nice little "eyebrow" scar above the nipple---plus a matching one on the right since I had a pre-cancerous atypical lesion removed at about the same area). Based on what I'm reading here about "boosts", my guess is that there will be targeted boosts to the nipple area at some point. I'm wondering if that will cause it to be more sensitive. I don't know if my 16 day treatment plan includes "boosts" or if they will be added on at the end. I'm glad I'm reading these posts because I now have even more questions for my RO on Monday. She was not there when I had my sim or the day I started treatments, so I really haven't had an opportunity to talk to her about the entire plan. I need to make a list so I don't forget the questions I have for her. Thanks to all for continuing to share your experiences. They are so very helpful.

  • Suz-Q
    Suz-Q Member Posts: 205
    edited January 2016

    Fearless, I can eat antioxidant foods and even take a One-a-Day vitamin because they dont have concentrated high doses of antioxidants. My RO said no tea though. He said I can resume taking the antioxidants two weeks after I complete radiation.

    I didn't find that the boost bothered my nipple. In fact my nip started feeling better about the time I started my boost. If you have a boost it will be after the 16 days of whole breast.Actually, the boost hasn't changed my skin at all. It works deeper. I think the boost hits the lumpectomy bed with most of its energy. The way my RO and techs explained it is the electrons only go so deep and then they stop unlike the the way whole breast radiation works where the photons keep going through and out. That's why the RO's need to be so careful with the angles and such so that we don't get "hot spots" of too much radiation in some areas. I'm really surprised your RO or her nurse hasn't explained more. I had to watch a long educational video, they gave me a nice binder with tons of info, the nurse went over the list of things I couldn't take, whether I could weardeodorant or not, and lots more.

    I hope you have a nice long list of questions for your RO next week! If you don't understand something ask her to explaine it in a different way. This usually works for me.You'll be fine, good luck!

  • JerseyGirl22
    JerseyGirl22 Member Posts: 342
    edited January 2016

    Had my SIM for rads today and they marked me up again... tralalala, and gave me more tattoos... I was surprised that they marked my neck, and when I asked, they said that they want to hit to superclavicular nodes while they're doing everything else, so that there can be no doubt that they got everything that could possibly be lurking about. Anyone else have this spot marked for rads?

    I'm so thankful for the great techs at our center. Got my schedule, 8:20a, every day for the next 6 weeks... whoohoo! Just want to get this started.

    Hugs to all of you amazing women out here!

    Warrior On!

  • biscuits
    biscuits Member Posts: 3,304
    edited January 2016

    Hi ladies! I have a quick question...I met with my RO yesterday and he wants my port out before I start rads. Does anyone know when they will do the " mapping" and CT scan after that? I didn't ask the RO that question and I don't want a delay in starting my rads. Did anyone get there port pulled out just before rads

  • HappyHammer
    HappyHammer Member Posts: 1,247
    edited January 2016

    Etnasgrl....lube the boob was my take away, too....just hoping I can remember to use that line later on when someone needs it...

  • HappyHammer
    HappyHammer Member Posts: 1,247
    edited January 2016

    Fearless- not sure about the boosts causing nipple issues....the entire rads process has bothered mine..- it has been irritated, sore, and is now peeling as of today...lovely- hope you are3 not going to have that issue! Maybe the cabbage leaves will help.

    Dammit- no one said not to drink herbal teas....I have done that throughout chemo/surgery and now rads.

  • mdoc524
    mdoc524 Member Posts: 336
    edited January 2016

    Happy Friday All ... To echo the sentiment - what a busy busy thread - I Love It! If I have not updated your details above please repost them for me!

    Welcome Welcome MaggieMae123, Grammy4 & violethope - so sorry you are here but glad you found us! Lots of great sharing here! Zelda33, Tessio & LMC826 - great to hear from you - good luck!

    HappyHammer - I have a growth on my eyelid right where an eyelash would grow in - very frustrating - after reading your post I will call my eye doctor Monday - thanks for sharing!!

    Keepwalking - beautiful picture & Chocolate really is the cure all! For me it's M&M's...

    Lindab142 - hope you are feeling better!

    Thr_yet - So so many hugs for you - totally stinks that you were all ready & prepared to start Rads! Good luck with chemo - you can do it! Agree with Octogirl I now regret not pursuing the cold caps - hope they work for you! My chemo tips - drink lots & lots of water - I averaged 70-80 ounces per day & measured it out! Also B6 100mg & B12 1000mcg daily to help the Taxol induced neuropathy!!

    Phoebe58 - thanks for the info on the Saline Soak

    KateB79 - so I have chemo-induced menopause with fierce hot flashes & night sweats - Vitamin E helps??? And Wow on you supplement list

    All - I added the Cabbage Tip to the top recurring page in case anyone needs it - will add the Saline Soak too!

    Hugs to all with not so fun SE's

    Mary


  • KateB79
    KateB79 Member Posts: 747
    edited January 2016

    mdoc524, I think the vitamin E helps. I had to stop taking it before surgery and had many more hot flashes until I started taking it again. Even if it's placebo, I'm okay with that. I figure it can't hurt.

    It's interesting to me that so many ROs and MOs say no tea. Mine say no green tea (supplements or the real deal), but that black tea is fine. My RO says what he doesn't know doesn't hurt him; others of you are saying you got a list of things to avoid. Weird.

  • mdoc524
    mdoc524 Member Posts: 336
    edited January 2016

    thanks KateB & sorry but I am a novice to supplements - why did you have to stop taking it before surgery??

    My RO did not talk about supplements at all & I did not ask

  • Shopgal2
    Shopgal2 Member Posts: 649
    edited January 2016

    did anyone get slight indigestion after their rad sessions? It comes and goes but doesn't last long. Weird but I haven't had that since chemo.

  • KCinMN
    KCinMN Member Posts: 81
    edited January 2016

    I was told not to take any additional antioxidants. A multivitamin is fine. Green tea is fine. Just don't load up on any supplemental antioxidants. My RO wasn't overly concerned.

    I read an article once where some medical professionals were discussing whether or not antioxidants would 'protect' cancer cells from rads/chemo or whatever. I don't remember all of it, but it seemed like there was an argument over swapping out a handful of blueberries for a cookie. As if eating the junk was better, because those blueberries would protect the cancer. I think most of the contributors thought this was crazy and completely untrue. Personally, I think our food is often our medicine. So I'll lay off the supplements, but not the produce! :) That being said, all my healthy eating didn't keep me from getting cancer in the first place. Maybe I should try ice cream and Oreos before my next treatment! Haha, kidding!


  • phoebe58
    phoebe58 Member Posts: 193
    edited January 2016

    thanks Marijen -- I didn't see your response til now..... so only asked new MO if was ok to stay on Letrzole during rads -- yes, she said. I told her my previous MO had advised long term Letrozole, and she didn't say to take a break, but will video conf again in 3 months and have written that down ... as my brain is becoming selectively sieve like :).... to ask. She did say that healthy eating and regular exercise are shown to reduce recurrence.

    re supplements El Tigre - my RO had said to dial back during rads, as radiation works via oxygenation, so only got cleared for a multivit and healthy eating but no other antioxidants. Look forward to hearing what your RO says. Gabapentin also good for peripheral neuropathy. I no longer need it but it was helpful.

    Welcome violet -- I got most of my great info from this site and also earlier versions:)

  • phoebe58
    phoebe58 Member Posts: 193
    edited January 2016

    KCInmin -- crossed posts - ha ha you are wicked just mentioning ice cream -- I was a pretty healthy eater too, but I've had a lot of hormone supplements over the years..... so suspect it was that.

  • El_Tigre
    El_Tigre Member Posts: 520
    edited January 2016

    phoebe, yup got the gabapentin. They helped alot. I ended up taking a 9 day sequence of steriods to help the neuropathic itch as well. So far so good I think it's fading.

    Thanks for all the vitamin answers. Sometimes the docs are too vague on that

    Jerseygirl, our RO will be hitting the superclavicular nodes but they didn't mark me up in that area yet.


  • Quiddler
    Quiddler Member Posts: 6
    edited January 2016

    Welp, 3 down, 27 to go! :) Naturally, no side effects yet as it's too early. I've been really tired but that can be attributed to (a) getting up at 6 am to go to rads (not a morning person, but better to go before work than call attention to myself by leaving work early every day) and (b) this was also my first week back at work after my hysterectomy, so getting used to being upright all day again.

    The center where I'm having my rads done has two changing areas for patients. There are four, large lockers in each, with an adjacent cabinet holding gowns to change into. The lockers have keys in them attached to wrist bands so that you can simply slip it on your arms. Each room also has a bottle of lubriderm for patients to use.

    My scheduled time is 7:40, and there is another patient before me at 7:30. We've both been getting there early, so they've been taking her at 7:20 and me at 7:30. I'm outta there in 10 minutes and able to get to work just a little after 8. (We spoke briefly as we crossed paths and yesterday was treatment 10 for her and 3 for me so she's a week ahead of me.) I've put some of the Radiaplex in a travel-sized bottle in my purse along with a stick of Tom's of Maine deodorant, and just wait to apply both until after my treatment. One note: the nurse who did my 'education' said that I could use regular deodorant. I mentioned that I'd read online that the aluminum in deodorant could interfere with rads, but she said no, not an issue.

    I'm applying the RadiaPlex 3xday as instructed and taking my usual supplements (collagen, flaxseed oil, calcium, and magnesium citrate). Also bought a Clever (yes, that's the brand name) coffee cone to brew coffee at work.

  • KateB79
    KateB79 Member Posts: 747
    edited January 2016

    I backed off of the vitamin E before surgery because it can act as a blood thinner.

    I second the "food is medicine" statement, though I'm also one of the lucky ones who has eaten healthy for most of her adult life and still ended up in this boat. . . Go figure.

    I ate whatever the hell I wanted during chemo. You name it: if I wanted it, I ate it (thankfully, I never craved fast food). I thought of it as baiting the trap. lol

  • Suz-Q
    Suz-Q Member Posts: 205
    edited January 2016

    Hi KatieB, I've always eaten healthy, exercised regularly, maintained a low BMI in hopes of keeping away type 2 Diabetes that plagues my family. Not in a million years did I ever consider that I would be diagnosed with cancer. It was a real blow to me. I think that's why I never handled the diagnosis very well and went on an antidepressant a month ago. I'm doing so much better mentally since. My next big hurdle is to start Arimidex in less than two weeks. A bit scared about the side effects, but I'm trying to keep an open mind about them and not invite trouble before it happens

  • marijen
    marijen Member Posts: 3,731
    edited January 2016

    So new question here! Did anyone get vaccinations before starting radiation? Such as shingles, pneumonia

  • etnasgrl
    etnasgrl Member Posts: 650
    edited January 2016

    Nope, no vaccinations for me. As a matter of fact, that wasn't even brought up by any of my oncologists.

  • marijen
    marijen Member Posts: 3,731
    edited January 2016

    Interesting because I read radiation wears down the immune system.

  • KCinMN
    KCinMN Member Posts: 81
    edited January 2016

    I think radiation is harder on your immune system when they are targeting bone... ???

    No immunizations for me. Was never mentioned.

  • etnasgrl
    etnasgrl Member Posts: 650
    edited January 2016

    Wouldn't chemo wear down the immune system much more than rads?

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