Did your MO order a PET scan after diagnosis? Going crazy.

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IDCSister
IDCSister Member Posts: 7

Hi,

My sister is 33 years old and was diagnosed with Stage IIB IDC with evidence of 1 lymph node being affected next to her Grade III 2.9cm tumor. Triple positive (HER2+, ER+, PR+). During the interviewing process of oncologists (I was with her) the first oncologist wanted to order a PET scan AND wanted to have a second lab confirm all of the biopsy results to make sure the data was accurate. The second oncologist did not feel either of those two things were necessary, and the more I am reading and learning about HER2 cancer, the more it is bothering me and I cannot rest thinking that perhaps we chose the wrong MO or that these two things should be done for reassurance. The oncologist my sister chose was wonderful, caring, and came highly recommended but still it's just something that weighs heavily on my mind. She had her first chemo yesterday (TCHP) which will then be followed by a double mastectomy and possible radiation.

Did you all have PET scans in the beginning, or if not, when did you?

Thank you very much for any insight. We're all new to this and I'm trying to catch up on the learning curve.

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  • HappyHammer
    HappyHammer Member Posts: 1,247
    edited January 2016

    IDC Sister- sorry that your sister has BC but glad you found this site. SO many wonderful, caring and knowledgeable folks here! I was diagnosed last April and had neoadjuvant chemo like your sister- same protocol, due to HER2 pos status. I did have an echocardiogram and PET scan prior to treatment. As you will find hearing from others- there are many differences in treatment depending on where you are located, doctors, etc. Please keep us posted. Sending HUGS to you AND your sister. My sister has been a huge help during all of this and it means so much!

  • Skittlegirl
    Skittlegirl Member Posts: 428
    edited January 2016

    I had a PET scan before chemo and my surgeon said I would probably have another one before surgery.

  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited January 2016

    Hi!

    Like Skittlegirl, I had a PET scan before chemo and I had one after chemo. But, I also had an MRI before and after as well. Both of these scanning techniques allowed my MO to see the effects of chemo and whether or not it got rid of the (visible) active cancer (it did). If your sister had an MRI, that might do just as well as the PET. In my case, they showed the same thing.

    I also might have gotten a PET because of my tumor's size (5 cm.+). It was one way for MO to determine whether or not my cancer had spread beyond the breast area.

    Some MOs are scanners; some are not. There are definitely cons to scanning -- PETs often produce false positives that can lead to extra (and unnecessary worry). My PETs picked up something on my hip that was later determined to be nothing. Best wishes to your sister!

  • mdg
    mdg Member Posts: 3,571
    edited January 2016

    I was stage I and they would not do any scans on me at all. Still makes me nervous.....

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2016

    I was Stage II and a PET scan was not recommended because it would expose me to radiation, and the chances of false positive/negative are so high. I also had a positive lymph node 4mm, but no LVI or extracapsular invasion, so it is very unlikely that anything would be picked up on a pet scan. They're usually only sensitive to 1.5cm and larger. My brother, on the other hand, had extensive lymph node involvement that the likelihood of having mets was high, and PET scan confirmed it. There are certain types of cancer that is more prone to spreading, like ILC or triple negative, etc. Please don't worry yourself too much! It sounds like you're already very informed and it's so nice of you to be there for your sister. Wishing her an easy time with chemo! Hugs.

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited January 2016

    Hi IDCsister, and welcome to the Breastcancer.org community. Take a look at this page about PET scans, as it could be helpful PET Scans. We are thinking about you and your sister.

    Warmly, The Mods

  • grammakathy
    grammakathy Member Posts: 407
    edited January 2016

    I was diagnosed after a biopsy. My doctors do not do PET scans so I am left waiting to see if any persistent symptoms show up in the future. I have a close friend who had BC in 2006 and had a mastectomy. She has been followed with PET scans and blood tests in the following years with no signs of new cancer. Last May 2015 she felt a lump and her cancer had come back on her chest wall. She had a scan/blood tests two months before that and nothing showed up. I think I am relieved that I don't have the stress and can live my life until symptoms show up. But that is just the way I feel and doesn't mean you should feel that way. Best wishes for your sister. This is a rough journey but we get through it one appointment at a time.

  • MsPharoah
    MsPharoah Member Posts: 1,034
    edited January 2016

    Loving, do you have the scientific articles/links that demonstrate that ILC is more prone to spread? I have not found that to be the case, but I think maybe I missed some important research.

    Thanks, MsP

  • Stephmoen
    Stephmoen Member Posts: 563
    edited January 2016

    I did have a pet scan prior to chemo had a small spot in liver light up with no corresponding growth seen on ct scan mo was positive it wasn't cancer had another scan post chemo nothing lit up complete response and the slight light up was a false postive

  • Nancy2581
    Nancy2581 Member Posts: 1,234
    edited January 2016

    yes I had a pet/ct scan before chemo. My tumor was 2.8cm and I had 1 lymph node involved. I was scared to death when I had the pet/ct convinced they would find more cancer. They didn't and it put my crazy wandering mind to rest.

  • Rseman
    Rseman Member Posts: 281
    edited January 2016

    I did have a PET scan before chemo and surgery and thank goodness they decided to do it. It had turned out that my stage 1 was really a stage iv and I was able to avoid unnecessary major surgery and also start a different plan of treatment no one would have known otherwise that I needed.

    I did have two different opinions on whether this would have been done from two different centers.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2016

    MsP, I remember reading when I was first diagnosed that ILC is usually harder to detect on screenings and spreads to different areas than IDC . That doesn't mean it's more aggressive, it's just less likely to be found early. But it sounds like yours was caught very early and that's really good!

    Wishing you all the best moving forward!

  • MsPharoah
    MsPharoah Member Posts: 1,034
    edited January 2016

    Loving!, Thanks for the clarification. You are correct that it can be more difficult to detect and has a different profile for where it likes to "roam" when it does. But what I have read is that its aggressiveness or indolence is a factor of the tumor's profile along with normal staging factors, not that it is lobular vs. ductal. Sadly, there is not enough research on lobular carcinoma so if that changes, perhaps there will be more information available. That I have lobular and am PR-, both of these being little-studied and understood, definitely made me more agressive when deciding about chemo.
    All the best, MsP




  • Annchamama4
    Annchamama4 Member Posts: 4
    edited January 2016

    We all worry about that.After I was diagnosed, the breast surgeon did a breast MRI. Showed no node involvement. Started Chemo, finished Chemo, had bilateral mastectomy on 12/9/15, my nodes were clean and my pathology showed no cancer remained in breast. I had a complete response. Amen!! I do have muscle pain due to the taxotere. I asked onc about it, and said completely normal. She checked my tumor markers and they are normal. Just know different docs do different things. One positive node may not be worrisome enough for them to do a complete scan. They know what they're doing, but if she is uneasy about it ask for a scan for peace of mind. Just be there for your sister, show her your support, and help with all her needs. Being positive is the best way to cope, it's boosts your immunity, to help kick cancers a$$. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your sister.


  • IDCSister
    IDCSister Member Posts: 7
    edited January 2016

    Thank you very much, this puts my mind much more at ease. She did have an MRI after diagnosis, then yet another one for an MRI-guided biopsy later, of a spot they found on her other breast (that proved to be benign, hallelujah). So it sounds like we are indeed on the right path and I need to stop fretting about the lack of PET scan and we seem to be in normal procedure mode. Thank you all so much.

    She is into her 4th day from her first TCPH chemo and feeling very fatigued with some back pain. I can't wait until this is over for her!! She has a 2-year old and a wonderful husband, breaks my heart. Thank you all for your information! I pray a smooth journey for each and every one of you.

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