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  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited December 2015

    Eh, IDC doesn't grow that fast. I was diagnosed with an aggressive variant of IDC (HER2+ that was grade 3) in late June 2014. But, I didn't have my first neoadjuvant (pre-surgery) chemo until the third week of July 2014. Nothing really changed during that month. The lump was still big (5 cm.) and one node was still implicated. That month was very useful -- I got my port; I had an MRI; I had a PET scan; I got a heart scan. By the time chemo rolled around, I knew the situation and was ready to begin my treatment.

    Take your time; IDC has probably been in your body for awhile. Nothing is going to change in a week.

  • LisaAlissa
    LisaAlissa Member Posts: 1,092
    edited December 2015

    Ashley, Jan 5th is next week. You have time for this! In the meantime, you might make an appointment with a medical oncologist and ask for their help having your slides & biopsy specimens reviewed by an independent pathologist.

    Have you arranged for your imaging studies and existing pathology reports to be delivered to your second opinion surgeon?

    Best wishes to you.

    LisaAlissa

  • octogirl
    octogirl Member Posts: 2,804
    edited December 2015

    Ashley, I know you are scared (we all were when diagnosed) but waiting until the 5th of January (just Tuesday next week) doesn't seem long. Waiting is the hardest part, but in this instance I think it will be worth it, in order to have more information, and to have a breast specialist evaluate your situation. Take deep breaths. Tuesday will be here before you know it.

    One thing you could do: call the breast surgeon's office and ask if a MRI is recommended and if it is possible to schedule that between now and your appointment (honestly, it may not be given that Friday is a holiday). Having the MRI done while you wait would be helpful if possible.

    Hugs and best to you.

    Octogirl

  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited December 2015

    Hi Ashley, I was diagnosed with multifocal and multicentric ILC then after mastectomy I was told one was IDC and 1 ILC. I didn't need radiation but was left horrified I never had any illness or disease before. Literally in the best of health. I had DIEP reconstruction it looks great. You will feel better when the cancer has been removed and you are done with surgery/treatment. So sorry you are at this dreaded phase, it will get better.

  • MLP3
    MLP3 Member Posts: 534
    edited December 2015

    I also agree with everyone here. You should have a team review your tests and come up with a game plan. Medical oncologist, breast surgeon and an oncologist radiologist.

    I just got the call yesterday after my core biopsy on 12/22. I have been diagnosed with IDC grade 3, ERPR+, Her-2 neg and a small area of DCIS. I am meeting with a team(same as mentioned above) Jan 6th. I was told that I will have more testing(scans) and lumpectomy to determine the stage and further details. She said to prepare for more surgery in the next 2 weeks and that may include a mastectomy. But you need more info to see if this can be treated with chemo or hormonal therapy before jumping the gun and getting a mastectomy right from the start.

    Can you access your reports online? If so, do that and come back here and share. Sounds like you may need a second opinion. Take a breath and know that you will get through this. Everyone here did.Be strong😘


  • Ashley46
    Ashley46 Member Posts: 19
    edited January 2016

    Hi everyone, I met the breast surgeon yesterday. She said it looks like early stage but she has asked for a few tests to be done before deciding on what to do. Hv been asked to do ct scan, ultrasound, biopsy, whole body bone scan, and MRI tmrow. The previous biopsy results did not Hv full details . I m still very sore with the last biopsy which was done abt 10 days ago but I m very happy with the breast surgeon n glad she's doing all this tests too. The doctor checked. Under my arms n felt some thickening but said it could be from the impact of the biopsy. I m just praying for a miracle.

    Ashley

  • LisaAlissa
    LisaAlissa Member Posts: 1,092
    edited January 2016

    Ashley, did the breast surgeon give you a referral to a medical oncologist? That person should be on your "team" before you make the surgery decisions. After surgery, the surgeon often disappears...and you'll be working with a medical oncologist. It is often better to have a medical oncologist involved in formulating your treatment plans from the beginning. For example, you'll want copies of all of the new tests to go to the medical oncologist too!

    HTH,

    LisaAlissa

  • BrendaTAus
    BrendaTAus Member Posts: 1
    edited January 2016

    Hi Alisha

    I was diagnosed on the 19th September 2015 and started Chemo on the 1st October 2015 4 lots of 3 weeklies and now 12 weeklies down to 9.

    I was told I was OK! by the Doctors Side kick 2 weeks before finding out the truth from the Breast specialist. He told me I had 3 negative aggressive needed surgery ASAP but changed it to Chemo as the lump was 10 cm.

    I was shocked only because I was told it was ok! before. but you know what you can fight this horrible thing if you think positive you will get through this. i was more worried tell my family worried how they would cope with it. but they do and if your strong they are strong. but you need to rest as well let them step up take on board things you use to do don.t be shy to ask for help. you will be surprised how many people will help you get through this. my family live in the UK I live in Australia but they all are there, in their own ways. SO STAY STRONG don't afraid you can and will kick this. Good luck love to chat more if you want to. god bless.

  • Ashley46
    Ashley46 Member Posts: 19
    edited January 2016

    Hi, thanks a lot for all your support. I live in Melbourne and my family is away too. I am trying to stay positive n Hv faith n believe everything is going to be fine. At the same time my mind wonders n i start googling and it scares Me. Thanks for all your support, it's trulya great help

  • msphil
    msphil Member Posts: 1,536
    edited January 2016

    hey sweetie take a deep breath we know what you r feeling but i did a 2nd opinion as did lots of us here we r here to support u its scary but once plan in place things settle down. i am goin on 22yrs Survivor. Praise God. msph(idc stage2 0\3 nodes Lmast chemo n rads 5 yrs on tamoxifen)

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited January 2016

    Brenda-

    Welcome to BCO! We're glad you've found your way here, and hope you find this to be a supportive place.

    The Mods

  • Ashley46
    Ashley46 Member Posts: 19
    edited January 2016

    the results in the 2nd opinion is out. I am truly shattered with the news . It's confirmed cancer...3 ltunours found ( 2.2 cm, 1.2 cm snd 0.9 cm). It's high grade invasive ductal carcinoma. the ct scan detected 2 smallsuspicious lymph nodes. A mastectomy will be scheduled. The receptors are ER+, PR+ and HER2-. A mastectomy will be scheduled after seeing the plastic surgeon. I am truly shattered.

  • Kicks
    Kicks Member Posts: 4,131
    edited January 2016

    When will yoi be seeing the Medical Oncologist (chemo) and Radiolical Oncologist? Both need to be seen along with the surgeon (and plastic surgeon) for a complete treatment plan. If you will be doing rads, they can have effects on the recon if recon is done first.

    It is a team effort to get the best results with the different Specialists in their fields working together.

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Member Posts: 3,039
    edited January 2016

    Oh Ashley! Shattering, indeed.

    The BCO board participants and your doctors can tell you until we're blue in the face that you WILL come through this OK. And it indeed is almost certainly true. (I don't know at this point. I can promise nothing.) But for now, cry. Weep. Shout. Rail against your fate. Try to squirm out of the treatments. (Because that's what I did. And then some. My husband still hasn't recovered, quite)

  • fightergirl711
    fightergirl711 Member Posts: 300
    edited January 2016

    Ashley it will be ok. I promise you it will be ok. If you can get your doctor to give you something to help sleep or for anxiety that will do wonders and give you time to weigh your options and to make the best decisions for yourself. Will you see an oncologist before surgery? That might be a good idea, to talk about the ENTIRE process. It may seem overwhelming, but getting the full picture does help. Don't settle on your docs either, work with a team you really really like. You know something has to happen, so once you ease into the situation and you are able to look at things a little easier you'll see that you can and will get through it. I was diagnosed in November, up until Christmas I was in a very dark place. I've started treatment this week and emotionally better now, although I literally just started chemo. Because I have a plan. And you will have a plan. And once you start that plan your goal will be to GET BETTER.

    This week was the first time a doc (my new oncologist) said to me, "You'll be just fine."

    So let me relay that same sentiment to you now. You will be fine. We all will be fine.

  • etnasgrl
    etnasgrl Member Posts: 650
    edited January 2016

    ((((Big Hugs))))

    It is shattering, scary news and I'm so sorry that you had to hear it.
    Right now, just let yourself feel whatever it is you feel. Cry, scream, be silent, yell, talk, do whatever you need to do. There is no right or wrong emotion. (Some, like myself, even felt total numbness for a while.)

    Once you meet with all the oncologists on your "team", determine your treatment plan, and begin to move forward with that plan....you WILL feel better than you do right now. You will be able to pick up the pieces and move forward. You will begin to feel some hope. I promise you that it will not always be this horrible, this scary, and this overwhelming.
    The beginning is the hardest. It truly is. There is SO much waiting involved, so many unanswered questions, and so little info. It's very tough to navigate through this strange, new world. But, that's why this message board is here! These women are incredible. They are knowledgeable, kind, compassionate, and just terrific. You'll find so much support, which is very much needed through every step of this "journey".


  • Anamia3-me
    Anamia3-me Member Posts: 22
    edited January 2016

    in México is Common the "awaking not knowing if You still have your boobs". Yep. Not MRI not pet scans.

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited January 2016

    I’m with queenmomcat on this. Go to the thrift store and buy a bunch of really cheap stuff so you can throw it at the wall and break it. (Then have someone clean it up for you). Cuss up a blue streak (enrich your vocabulary first if you have to). Do whatever you need to in order to vent. Only you know what you’re going through, and you do NOT have to “be strong!"

  • windingshores
    windingshores Member Posts: 704
    edited January 2016

    Ashley, it's good news that you are ER and PR+.  After surgery you will want an Oncotype test done (your MD's will mention this) and that will give you a lot of information about your risks, and the benefits from chemo or no chemo and only anti-hormonal meds.

    For now, it can help to stay off of google except this site :)   Lots of things online are old actually.

    I watched a lot of Netflix. And ask your primary care doctor for medication to help with sleep or keep you calm, if needed. I .got some Klonopin and even though I only took it once, in that first week, I felt good having it available

    I had my mastectomy very quickly after diagnosis. I met with a surgeon and oncologist just before. I didn't have reliable information from pathology until after the surgery. I didn't get  a second opinion before surgery but got 4 afterwards!!

    Good luck!


  • Ashley46
    Ashley46 Member Posts: 19
    edited January 2016

    the doctor spoke abt expanders, implants for the recon. Is tht a good recon? How abt fat grafting? I m totally lost...I have been scheduled for s mastectomy and axillary node surgery. How many lymph nodes needs to be removed for best results? Can we request to remove all lymph nodes to minimise risk ? Pls advise.... Thanks Ashley

  • Ridley
    Ridley Member Posts: 634
    edited January 2016

    hey Ashley. - you are in the worst phase of this journey right now - having a cancer diagnosis without a treatment plan. It will get better. Re reconstruction, check out the info on this main site for a description of the options. If you want to read about experiences using your own fat, look for info on diep or free tram, which is where they use you own belly fat ( I had bilateral diep). I also has lots of tumours (10!), but they are all gone, as yours will be. I can't help on the nodes Q, but someone will be along who can. Hang in there

  • Lolis197138
    Lolis197138 Member Posts: 512
    edited January 2016

    Hi Ashley,

    Sorry to hear about your Dx but as Ridley said once you have a treatment plan you will feel better.

    Re the nodes, if you are going for an axillary lymph node dissection the BS will remove all of the nodes that they will see. Usually they remove only Level I & II nodes. If they see any other enlarged nodes they might remove them. I had 23 lymph nodes removed and the BS saw an enlarged node in chest (lower part of the breast) and she removed it but it was negative. Everyone has a different number of nodes so the fact that they different doesn't mean that one had more or less nodes removed. You can confirm with your BS what they usually do.

    Good luck and this too shall pass :-)

  • windingshores
    windingshores Member Posts: 704
    edited January 2016

    Many of us had  "sentinel nodes" removed.   Radioactive material is injected in the area of the tumor(s) and then they can trace where the material drains first: the "sentinel nodes" are first on the path out of the breast in the lymph system. This relatively recent way to examine nodes means that many women only have 1-3 nodes taken. If they are clean, the assumption is that the cancer did not get to any lymph nodes, since the cancer would have had to travel through the sentinel nodes first and would usually have left some trace.  (I have read it is possible theoretically for a few cells to have made it through the sentinels without leaving a trace, but we try not to think about that.)

    If you have other nodes besides the sentinel nodes that are suspicious, then the surgeon will remove them.  I don't know how the surgeons know whether to keep going and take, say, 24 nodes. Maybe someone can tell us.  Are the nodes looked at by pathology on site, to determine when to stop taking nodes and when to keep going? Or once one node is positive, do they just remove all nodes they find?

  • sheila888
    sheila888 Member Posts: 25,634
    edited January 2016

    The ones that lights up are taken.

    I have 3 taken out only SN was positive for micro cells....

    Good luck

    Sheila

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Member Posts: 3,039
    edited January 2016

    Coming back around to provide (I hope) more staunch support. We will be here for you, no matter the path you take. And there are many correct paths.

    1) Lymph nodes: the fewer the better. These are more an indicator of how far the cancer's spread than anything else. I think. Removing more doesn't reduce your chance of cancer recurrence in future (that I'm aware of. I'll defer to those with metastatic cancer. But for now, don't worry about it.)

    2) Reconstruction: tissue expanders/implants is one of the two basic methods, the other being tissue transplant (that is, the surgeon moves your own tissue from here to there in order to create a breast mound) There's also "nothing at all" (going flat). Which is best? I don't know. That's something you need to consider for yourself.

    But whichever path you end up following, we will be here for you. That's a promise.

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited January 2016

    I had sentinel node biopsy. 2 lit up and 2 tagged along--it was impossible to remove just the 2 sentinels. All were negative. The fewer removed, the lower the lymphedema risk--but tha risk is never zero, and LE can occur even decades later

  • Ashley46
    Ashley46 Member Posts: 19
    edited January 2016

    Hi everyone. Tot of giving a quick update as to what's happening to me.masectomy was performed last mobday with an immediate tram flap reconstruction. 5 lymph nides removed and all negative.. Now awaiting results on somethg the dictor mentioned... Microcells n KI67 tests. The 3 tumours was abt 2cm. 1.2cm and 1.0 cm. based on the results the dictor said they will determine treatment. At the moment feeling tightness at abdomen area and breast is all swelled n tight. Pls advise n need some support

    Feeling very down as I dun feel me...Ashley

  • Affinity42
    Affinity42 Member Posts: 28
    edited January 2016

    Much 💜I'm still waiting. As a person who has lived among medical professionals for years I encourage you to research your options prior to making any decisions. Hugzzzzz!

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Member Posts: 3,039
    edited January 2016

    Thank you for the update!

    I offer you what comfort I can. I can well imagine that you're still down and not feeling you at all! The mastectomy is a major surgery. The TRAM flap reconstruction is a huge surgery. Together? whoof. Five days later is "About ready to get excited about brushing my teeth by myself".

    Have you someone there to help you?

  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,773
    edited January 2016

    Ashley, that's a big surgery you are recovering from. Why don't you join this group DIEP 2016 I know it says diep but anyone with a flap surgery can join including Tram.

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