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  • Wenrisa
    Wenrisa Member Posts: 94
    edited January 2016

    has anyone decided during the course of chemo that they didn't want to finish? i.e. Supposed to have 8but only had 4... Is this even an option?

  • mvspaulding
    mvspaulding Member Posts: 446
    edited January 2016

    I just had a fun 24 hours. Yesterday I kept having bouts of chest pain and accelerated heart rate. I was feeling crummy. Enough to where my husband called the MO on call and decided to go to ER. Hardly anyone I talked to at ER even knew what the Neulasta shot was. My WBC count was very high. Not sure if that was from the shot or not. I also had a high marker for blood clot. So had an EKG, a CT scan, multiple blood draws and they kept me until today. The Dr from this morning had ordered a stress test for me that would have required me to stay another night in hospital and have it tomorrow. I could tell that the afternoon Dr didn't think it was necessary but couldn't go against other Doctor's order. So I left. I couldn't spend another sleepless night in that hospital. The whole ordeal was exhausting.

    Have any of you had problems with heart rate, chest pains with the Neulasta shot or the TC regimen??

  • brithael
    brithael Member Posts: 224
    edited January 2016

    Really, really tired today. Was up many times during the night with cramping which would produce gas and a small amount of stool. Sllloooowwwwlllyyy I am getting my intestines to empty. Stopped taking the Zofran last night, and just feel fragile, not queasy. Just got up from a nap where I slept like the dead, but feel a whole lot better than I did. This is Day 6.

  • Lou53
    Lou53 Member Posts: 81
    edited January 2016

    Wenrisa, my oncologist told me that it is always my choice but treatments are based on factors such as type of cancer, stage, lymph node involvement, etc. and how others with similar diagnosis faired after different treatments. That being said, I also think there is sometimes a bit of overkill. I almost stopped after my first infusion because I got so sick. He told me that if the cancer started growing somewhere else like my bones, lung or brain there would be little they could do. It's very scary and this sucks. Talk to your oncologist.

  • LovesToFly
    LovesToFly Member Posts: 1,133
    edited January 2016

    hi everybody, I am starting chemo next week! I will read back and see what some of your first month has been like, I hope you're all doing well. I have one question now. My husband will be taking me to my first chemo infusion, I'm wondering if I will likely to be able to drive myself home from the following month. I will be doing the fEC-d regimen?

  • PMR53
    PMR53 Member Posts: 452
    edited January 2016

    Thinking of all of you as you begin your Journey with BC. I was on the January chemo thread. We had a great group and there is lots of information if you can refer to that thread. 

    MySpaulding- I'm sorry your wig itches. I had a synthetic one that felt horrible and itched too. I then received a well made human hair wig from LollysLocks. Each and everyone of you can apply and maybe get a beautiful comfortable wig for free. I wore it February to October. 9 months. You can also purchase one from Shevys Wigs. They are expensive but identical to your real hair. 

    Hugs to all of you. PM me if you have any questions. 

    PMR53

  • Trisha-Anne
    Trisha-Anne Member Posts: 2,112
    edited January 2016

    Brithael and anyone else with GI problems. I have irritable bowel syndrome - caused by my first lot of chemo. I had it almost under control just before this dx - I take probiotics. It took a bit of trial and error to see what worked for me, but I take 2 in the morning and 2 at night now and my diarrhea is sooooo much better this round of chemo, I know you are struggling with constipation, but although they are different, they are the same - if that makes sense? It might be worth experimenting with. I found that the ones that you have to keep in the refrigerator don't work as well for me, but they might for others.

    I went to the onc today and he's changing me to two weeks between the next two AC treatments. That shocked me a bit, but now that I'm getting neulasta he says that we can have a shorter interval and it will be more effective.

    Wenrisa - I couldn't finish my third Taxotere treatment the first time round - if it's too much for your body, then stopping is an option. You can also consider a different chemo that may be gentler.

    LovesToFly I did FEC-D the first time round, and here in Australia they wont let you go home if there's no-one to drive you. I wouldn't have been able to anyway - too shaky. See what your centre advises and how you feel.

    Hope everyone is doing as well as can be expected.

    Trish

    xoxo

  • Wenrisa
    Wenrisa Member Posts: 94
    edited January 2016

    Trisha-Anne - I have IBS also. I've had it for about 5 or so years now. I mostly just manage the symptoms on a regular basis but with chemo this has been difficult. Mind my asking what strain of probiotics you have had success with? The onc-nutritionist mentioned trying one but couldn't remember which one in particular..

  • Trisha-Anne
    Trisha-Anne Member Posts: 2,112
    edited January 2016

    No problem Wenrisa, here's the list from the label - mind you I'm in Australia so not sure you can get the same thing there. The brand is Faulding.

    Lactobacillus acidophilus 6.25 billion

    Lactobacilluvs casei 6.25 billion

    Bifodobacteruim lactis (2 strains) 11.88 billion

    Bifodoctereium bididum 0.625 billion


    Hopefully I've spelled them right, the writing is very small lol. Since I've been taking these I've been able to include a small amount of lactose and gluten in my diet, something that would make me vomit if I had it before. I'll stress though, that I tried a few different sorts before finding this one worked well for me.

    Good luck! And let me know how you go

    Trish

    xoxo


  • Queen_Celeste
    Queen_Celeste Member Posts: 68
    edited January 2016

    LovesToFly:  Re driving yourself to and from chemo, it depends how you feel.  See how it is after the first or second time.  Two people on the same exact regimen could have completely different reactions and side effects.  I drove myself after my second chemo session and had no problem at all.  It is only a 15-minute drive.  Best of luck to you!

  • Karenbo
    Karenbo Member Posts: 61
    edited January 2016

    Mvspaulding - Sorry you've had such a rough 24+ hours! Hopefully everything is much better now. Glad it didn't appear to be a heart attack or a clot anywhere. I haven't had any of those symptoms, but I am taking Neupogen injections (the 2 consecutive days before each chemo) and no Neulasta.

    LovesToFly - Like people have already mentioned, the chemo effects everyone differently. I've found that the Decahedron (pre-med) usually kicks in about the time chemo is completed and I have plenty of energy to safely drive home. It's nearly a 90 minute drive for me.

    Birdie - Still thinking of you often. Hope you are feeling much better and perhaps have found a different MO.

    Well girls, I finally took the plunge and did a very short lived Mohawk/punk cut immediately followed by a buzz. Completed Taxol # 4 on Thursday and the hair loss kept rapidly advancing. I couldn't handle the excessive shedding and feeling like I kept having to remove a new fur collar and scarf every few minutes. Hated to see the hair go, but at the same time, it was a relief to have that part over and done with! Felt good to take control. Now on to finding ways to use my inexpensive wig and hats. Guessing I won't wear the wig at all at home or even out & about too much, but feel that I should try to at least while at work. Took the day off work to find a good "work style" and to get more acclimated to the temporary "new me" before I have to field questions at work from well meaning people. Husband was so great through the whole ordeal. Kept telling me I'm beautiful with our without hair. It does help!

    Until later.....Keep up the good fight. Wishing you all a great day and little to no SE!!!!!!


  • chinacat
    chinacat Member Posts: 78
    edited January 2016

    my nails are turning grey near the cuticles. Anyone else have this happening

  • mvspaulding
    mvspaulding Member Posts: 446
    edited January 2016

    Karenbo, thank you. I am feeling better today but not great. Thankfully I can work from home. I shaved my head over a week ago and have only worn my wig once. Around the house and out to the mall once I just wore beanies and doo rag. My husband too has been great about it and even says he loves my bald head look. I'm kind of nervous about going to work in wig as I have been off worksince I shaved.

  • Trisha-Anne
    Trisha-Anne Member Posts: 2,112
    edited January 2016

    Chinacat, this could be the beginning of your nails lifting. If you paint your nails with a dark nail polish to stop the light from getting to them, it may help.

    mvspaulding, good to hear you are feeling a bit better (((hugs)))

    I saw my onc yesterday and will be having my next two ACs two weeks apart rather than three. He says it's more effective, so I guess I'll go with his judgement. At least I'll be finished a bit earlier lol.

    Trish

    xoxo

  • KatG68
    KatG68 Member Posts: 7
    edited January 2016

    Like a lot of you, I've been lurking and reading for a few months now and figured it's time to introduce myself. My name is Kathy and I was diagnosed on 10/9, exactly one week before my 47th birthday - seems to be several of us getting this birthday gift! I had a lumpectomy on 11/6 - with a reduction (on one side! - will do other AFTER all this). First AC treatment was on 12/16 and second on 12/28 (doing 4 treatments over 8 weeks). Was a bit nauseated after each treatment, but not something I couldn't handle. First time lasted most of 2 days - second time, most of 3 days. Only 2 more of these to go! After that I go to 12 weeks of Taxol - every week. My hair started coming out New Year's Eve and I cut it to a VERY short, VERY unprofessional style on New Year's Day. Not my best look! But I have a wig, and scarves. Today is my first day back at work since the hair issue and I wore my wig - takes getting used to! Had to switch to scarf around lunch time because it was so uncomfortable! UGH!

  • chinacat
    chinacat Member Posts: 78
    edited January 2016

    Thanks for the tip, Trish. Do you know why keeping them from exposure to light helps? Just trying to understand. I've googled and find lots of advice to paint them dark but nothing on why. I'm one of those people that has to know the reason, LOL.

    By the way, I am getting AC every 2 weeks. Seems to be enough time to recover for me. My #3 is Wednesday. The last two days have been rough but not due to chemo. PMS, with migraine of course. Right on time, no chemo pause for me.

  • PezGal
    PezGal Member Posts: 99
    edited January 2016

    Chinacat, I'd rather have my period then these hot flashes. They suck.

  • chinacat
    chinacat Member Posts: 78
    edited January 2016

    I don't mean to complain, PezGal. It's less about the period itself and more about the two day migraine that comes along with it. If it's not one thing it's another. Ugh!

  • mvspaulding
    mvspaulding Member Posts: 446
    edited January 2016

    I feel you Chinacat. I got my period on what was supposed to be my good week and it was so heavy it made me feel awful, plus the fact that no tampons are allowed made it more awful.

    I too have kept my nails painted a dark color the entire time and they seem to have no changes so far. Not sure why it is supposed to help, I just got the advice and took it. Can't hurt right, plus it has made me feel a little feminine since the boobs are gone and the hair as well lol.

  • mvspaulding
    mvspaulding Member Posts: 446
    edited January 2016

    KatG, sorry you have to be here with us but you will find lots of support here. I have a wig and have only worn once when I went out to dinner with girls. I was wondering if when I go back to work in the office in Wed if I would be able to make it a whole day with it.

  • Trisha-Anne
    Trisha-Anne Member Posts: 2,112
    edited January 2016

    Chinacat I have no idea why it helps lol - but if it does I'll do it I'm sure there's an explanation somewhere though


  • rbylake
    rbylake Member Posts: 15
    edited January 2016

    I had round #2 on New Years Eve and am pretty happy that my SE are much better this round. I still have neuropathy, but it is much more tolerable than the first round (maybe because of some of the supplements I'm taking?) and my GI isn't right, but it is manageable. I am definitely more tired this round, and it's a little depressing to know I have 4 rounds left of this.

    I just want to whine for a minute because It's sinking in that my hair is really gone and I'm not getting it back for several months. I am going to work in my wig the first time tomorrow and am dreading it. I'm not comfortable in it, I hold my head very stiffly. It's probably a little comical. I don't see myself going to work without a wig either. I'm sure I'll get used to the new "normal" but, at least for right now I'm going to be pissed off about it.

  • Fran1969
    Fran1969 Member Posts: 11
    edited January 2016

    myspaulding--- do you know if none of us are supposed to use tampax or is that in your specific case

  • mvspaulding
    mvspaulding Member Posts: 446
    edited January 2016

    They told me tampons weren't allowed due to risk of infection. So I'm assuming that would be the same for everyone.

    Rbylake, it's ok to be pissed about it. I am too and I don't feel very comfortable in my wig either.

  • PezGal
    PezGal Member Posts: 99
    edited January 2016

    Oh no, chinacat, I wasn't implying anything, I was just doing my own complaining. Sigh. The gravity of the situation has been wearing in me lately.Long day...

  • Lyra10
    Lyra10 Member Posts: 59
    edited January 2016

    So I guess I got used to having the stubble because I chose when to shave it and I've been doing the wig and working full time for 2 weeks and it does get better ladies. Maybe it's because I chose to go completely opposite from my own hair color! Go big or go home! I did have some pity partying this weekend cuz the stubble is now falling out! Ladies thanks for the dark nail polish suggestions I'm on it!

    My 2nd round was NY Eve also Rbylake,and definitely more fatigue this time. I only managed 8 hours today!

  • Twirp26
    Twirp26 Member Posts: 178
    edited January 2016

    hi everyone!!! I feel like I am playing dress up in my wig. It feels like Halloween without the candy😞 China Cat, my dr told me my nails would probably change and start to look "wood-like" lol, I'm just waiting for that to happen;) I have not got my period but I also just had my IUD removed a few weeks ago. I'm sure I will be getting it. Thanks for the Tampon tip, I would not have known that either. My worst SE right now is my skin. I feel like I am breaking out like a 16 year old boy. I am using the Lindi face care and it seems to work but my 2nd week after treatment is my "breakout" week. I am not sure what is worse, my diarrhea week or skin issue week. At least nobody sees the diarrea problem, I just can't trust a fart😉 Overall, these are bearable SE's. Also, I think it's ok for all of us to be pissed as long as we keep on fighting! Stay strong ladies!!

  • Tesla
    Tesla Member Posts: 53
    edited January 2016

    haven't update here for a while. Getting my #6 Taxol today. Shaved my hair and the stubble is annoying. I couldn't sleep!! Without a cap, it's too cold. With a cap, it hurts when the stubble rubbing against the pillow. Any tips? I'm wearing knit and cotton hats so far. And every time when I took the hats off, lots of hair stubbles inside. Don't wanna wear my wig yet til I'm shinning bald! What did you guys deal with hair stubbles? I guess just wait til all falls out?

  • LiLNutmeg
    LiLNutmeg Member Posts: 30
    edited January 2016

    Morning Ladies ...

    On round 2 of FEC-D and feeling like a bus hit me ... zero energy, the dreaded GI issues and of course blinding myself in the mirror with shiny head peeking through.

    Does anyone else get heartburn issues ... feels like I have a gravel in my chest  for the food to pass over when I swallow   Have called MO , just wondered if there were some relief measures in the meantime

    Love n hugs to you all .



  • Karenbo
    Karenbo Member Posts: 61
    edited January 2016

    Good luck today Rbylake. Today's my first day to go to work with the wig as well. Fortunately I only have to work about 4 hours; not sure I can handle it even that long.

    Good luck on Wednesday mvspalding!

    Still not certain how to field "hair" questions at work. I did make my 1st foray into public "hairless" yesterday (wore a cap) and it went well. Only one lady asked me about it. Sure it will be fine today

    I agree Twirp26; pissed or any other emotion or venting sessions are ok....just gotta keep fighting!

    Thankful for this group of beautiful, strong supportive women! You all make this scary journey much better!!! ((Hugs)

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