Partial breast radiation

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JuniperCat
JuniperCat Member Posts: 658

Hello and happy new year. I'm not sure if I should be posting this in the radiation section or not, but I am wondering if anyone knows how eligibility is determined for partial-breast or seed radiation as opposed to whole breast radiation? I had a small 1.5 IDC tumor as well as multi focal areas of high grade DCIS. Thank you for your input!!

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  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited January 2016

    Hi, Juniper - I researched that issue when I was approaching radiation. A lot has to do with the location of your tumor - too close to the wall, for example, and it's ruled out. Nodal involvement usually rules it out. The location and how big the tumor bed is would affect it.

    There are probably other factors that I've forgotten but if you look up radiation info on the main site (not just the discussion boards) you should find some useful guidelines.

    That being said, each woman's situation is so different. I'd schedule a meeting with your radiation oncologist to thoroughly explore your options. Get a second opinion if it helps - I did and it was very helpful. Don't be afraid to keep asking questions and getting clarifications! Radiation can be daunting but it can also be a valuable tool in dealing with your cancer. I wasn't a candidate for partial breast radiation, much as I would have liked to go that route but understanding ALL the factors that dictated my treatment made a huge difference in being able to accept it. Grudgingly, at times, I admit. ;)

    Good luck!


  • JuniperCat
    JuniperCat Member Posts: 658
    edited March 2016

    Dear Hopeful,

    Thank you so much for taking the time to respond to my reply. I am afraid of long term radiation risks because there is so much lung cancer on both sides of my family. I have an appointment next week to see a new RO. The first one I saw seemed a little impatient with me because I asked a lot of questions. He said I needed six weeks of radiation. How on earth do they come up with six weeks? It sort of seems like a cookie cutter approach. Good luck with your upcoming surgery!!

  • BrooksideVT
    BrooksideVT Member Posts: 2,211
    edited January 2016

    JuniperCat, when you meet with your RO, do ask about scatter. I was surprised to learn that there really is none. The beam they use is so strong that it blasts right through the kind of lead shield you might use at the dentist (ergo no thyroid shield), hits exactly where it is targetted to hit, and is stopped by a couple of feet of concrete. They can show you exactly where the radiation will hit, and where it will not. In my case they said a very small sliver of lung tissue would be in the treatment field. I suppose if I'd squawked enough, they could have re-designed the field to not hit that bit of my lung (and, of course, a bit of my breast), but I preferred the planned treatment. For me the risk of return of an existing cancer was far greater than a risk many years down the line.

  • marijen
    marijen Member Posts: 3,731
    edited January 2016

    BrooksideVT - is the non-scatter you are talking about with the whole breast radiation or the partial breast or both?

  • JuniperCat
    JuniperCat Member Posts: 658
    edited March 2016

    Brookside, that is very interesting about "scatter." The whole process sounds scary as heck and potentially painful (I'm fair skinned; I've had basal cell and squamous skin cancers on my face and neck). Why do they advocate six weeks of radiation? Thank you!!

  • BrooksideVT
    BrooksideVT Member Posts: 2,211
    edited January 2016

    JuniperCat, i'm also very fair skinned. My RO indicated (and she was right!) that skin color is not related to skin issues from rads. The head tech (yes, I grilled him for about an hour because I was TERRIFIED by the whole thing) told me that the worst skin problem he ever saw was on a black woman.

    I had lots of preconceived--and totally incorrect--ideas of what would happen to my delicate self during rads. The best thing I did was freak out and find myself transported into the aforementioned head tech's office. Learned a lot. Do not hesitate to ask, ask ask. If the RO is not forthcoming, talk to the nurse, the techs, the head tech, the physiatrist (or whatever he is), the dosiatrist--lots of people who love to talk about how they help us.

    As for the number of sessions--radiation clobbers the nasty cells while they are dividing. Not every cell divides every day, so you want to hit those buggers over and over. This is also why they discourage anything besides a one-a-day vitamin during rads--don't want to resuscitate any weakened bad guys.

    I know your initial post was about partial breast radiation, but didn't you indicate that you had several areas? I'd think that would send you right to whole breast rads.

    Marijen, I'm referring to the beam from the great big monster machine they cage in the basement. I do not know whether this machine lends itself to partial breast rads.

  • ceanna
    ceanna Member Posts: 5,270
    edited January 2016

    JuniperCat, you might want to read through a couple of the threads on this site dealing with partial breast radiation or brachytherapy. Just click on the "Search" box on the upper left hand column of this site and enter the keyword brachytherapy. You'll see links to past discussions about eligibility, how it is done, and insight into dealing with it. Best wishes as you enter the radiation stage. You're right where I was at this time last year!! I had brachytherapy using SAVI device (5 days/twice a day radiation through a catheter device) and have been glad I took that route.

  • BethL
    BethL Member Posts: 286
    edited January 2016

    I had partial breast radiation, mammosite, 10 years ago. I was in a clinice trial and was randomized into the group who received mammosite. I was only 38 at the time, and have been told there is an age requirement. Not sure what the reason is though.

    I actually chose to do it and told others I felt it was best because if I ever needed a mastectomy I felt my reconstruction options would be better. We'll I must have had some type of intuition because 4 weeks ago I had a bmx because of a recurrence. I have expanders in, not sure how the expansion process will go yet as I haven't had a fill yet. My skin is very tight because of the previous radiation, but my ps feels as though my chances for successful expansion are greater because of my decision to do partial vs whole 10 years ago.

    Just my experience.....so far.


  • JuniperCat
    JuniperCat Member Posts: 658
    edited March 2016

    Hello, all! Thank you for your replies. Forgive me the delay in responding. I'm trying to get to the various posts now. Unfortunately, I can't do the brachytherapy. Yesterday I saw the breast surgeon and she said I wouldn't be a candidate for seed radiation because during the third surgery she took a lot of tissue just below the skin and it wouldn't allow for the ballooncatheter. I will do the 6 week whole breast radiation in a month or so. Be well!!

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