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  • Lyra10
    Lyra10 Member Posts: 59
    edited December 2015

    The sad thing today is that the cancer center today has every chair filled! 😥 This is round 2 of T&C for me and I'm so sorry for everyone here! But I wore my sparkly vest to celebrate NY & maybe bring some light!image

  • mvspaulding
    mvspaulding Member Posts: 446
    edited December 2015

    You look great Lyra! All of the chairs were full where I was too. :(

  • Wenrisa
    Wenrisa Member Posts: 94
    edited December 2015

    lyra10 you look so beautiful and festive. I also went in today to my cancer center and it was packed. So sad for so many people going through cancer treatments.

    I had my 3rd CMF infusion today. All went well.

    Mvspaulding I also get the neulasta pod and it's always worked for me. Both previous times my wbc was normal and I've had minimal bone pain from it. Just take regular Claritin for a day or two.

    Wishing you all a happy new year with much love, support and minimal side effects

  • Trisha-Anne
    Trisha-Anne Member Posts: 2,112
    edited December 2015

    Birdie - I feel for you. Some of us don't "process" chemo very well. Make sure your onc is listening to you - take your DH with you and get him to advocate on your behalf if necessary. I had a severe reaction to Taxotere last time, and they lowered the dose for the next one, and while it was a bit better, I couldn't finish the course. My onc said my body just couldn't tolerate it. They should be giving you lots more meds to counter the se's of the next one if you do it. I understand the "not doing this again" I felt the same way. We each have to weigh up the quality of life v the quantity of life.

    When I was dx again this time, I told my DH that I wasn't doing chemo again. I'd just die a lot sooner than I would have. He didn't say anything, just hugged me. I did change my mind, obviously lol, but when I was so sick after the first treatment, I said I wasn't going back. Well I guess I am, but I'm making sure I have more meds to get me through it. (((hugs))) to you.

    Lyra - you look gorgeous!

    I'm feeling pretty good today - hopefully that will keep improving until treatment number 2 next Thursday. Hair went yesterday, it was coming out in handfuls and my head was pretty sore.

    Wishing all of us a Happy New Year, with health, peace and joy.

    Trish

    xoxo

  • Twirp26
    Twirp26 Member Posts: 178
    edited December 2015

    birdie56, I hate to hear you are having such a horrible time with your treatment😞 Can you see about maybe switching oncologists? Get another opinion on treatment options? There has to be something else they can do to make getting better a bit easier for you. I am getting the taxotere as well as Perjeta and Herceptin. I am not getting the carboplatin which I hear would be making me feel a lot worse. The down side is, I need 4 treatments, then surgery then 3 more treatments of a different chemo. I don't know, surely there should be other options for you. I am thinking about you and pray there is something else that they can give you that is manageable.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2016

    Thank you so much Trish Anne, Twirp, and others. This little lady, Paisley is 3, is what I live for. However, I would rather have

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    a short time to give her my all, than a longer time with nothing to give. Happy New Year ♡

  • KrisCrzala
    KrisCrzala Member Posts: 32
    edited January 2016

    Birdie - I am so sorry to hear of your bad experience with the chemo as well as your oncologist. I agree with Twirp that you should get a second opinion and maybe switch doctors. Your doctor should be working with you for the best experience through this. Sometimes we end up on the hospital but the doctor should listening to you and adjusting meds. It's ridiculous if he/she isn't taking you serious. I have listed a web site that gives you your chances of reoccurrence if you do nothing or using different treatments. It might arm you with ammunition when you speak with your oncologist about which other meds you could use. This tool really helped me. If you can't get to it because I copied it wrong, let me know. My prayers are with you. You have so much to live for.

    http://www.lifemath.net/cancer/breastcancer/therapy/index.php

    I too got the Neulasta pod this time. Hopefully it works good. Beats the heck out of going 35 miles to the doc tomorrow. Chemo went uneventful today but really tired.


  • PezGal
    PezGal Member Posts: 99
    edited January 2016

    Happy New Years Eve!

    Birdie - so sorry it took you for a real spin.  I agree with everyone else that you should get a 2nd opinion and/or bring someone with you to makes sure the dr. is really understanding you. I, personally, would bring my most aggressive friend to get to the bottom of things and then later on play naïve about not knowing they'd be so pushy.  I avoid conflict like that :)

    I had my 3rd AC today.  I don't think mine was crowded, not sure.  Everyone get's a private room.  Pretty uneventful.  I went solo so I was actually able to get in two naps.  While there I did get a text from my dad in Ohio.  He had finally convinced my mom to shave his head to be in "support and solidarity with his daughter". So sweet, it looks funny.  Bless his heart though.  He teaches adult education classes for fun and has a new semester starting in a few weeks - there he'll be, a q-ball up front.  My husband said he was going to do it too but I was able to talk him out of it.  We can't have too many sexy people in the house....

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  • KrisCrzala
    KrisCrzala Member Posts: 32
    edited January 2016

    Pez - that is so sweet you're Dad is supporting my shaving his head. That takes a lot of guts!! My husband keeps saying I look so cute with a bald head so I tell him then you can shave yours so we can be the same. He said no way because he wouldn't look. I told him I know what he means and that it is scary. So here's a big cheer for Dad - GO DAD!! Love the shirt.


  • Sammy3
    Sammy3 Member Posts: 136
    edited January 2016

    Hey Twirp - question for you. After your 1st chemo are you doing lumpectomy or mastectomy? I am basically on the same regimen as you, but doing the 6 TCHP. I had already had a lumpectomy prior, I didn't have enough info from original biopsy, so had to go there 1st. Anyway, after my TCHP, I am 99% sure I'm going to do BMX - I just can't keep doing this to myself (also had atypia in 2011, and this biopsy showed evidence of lcis also). Anyway.... Do you know how that effects our prognosis? I had clear margins & nodes, but I realize I get path after BMX. How do they determine recurrence risk if you do BMX? Sorry to ramble.

  • MGruenwald
    MGruenwald Member Posts: 1
    edited January 2016

    Hi

    Just wanted to jump into this group-

    I was diagnosed with invasive ductal carcinoma, estrogen pos, progesterone pos, her2 negative in September- had bilateral mastectomy in October, lymph nodes were clear...

    I had a mid range Oncotype result, and my oncologist recommended chemo.

    I am doing taxotere cytoxan, 4 rounds, once every 3 weeks. My first treatment was 12/18.

    Wondering if anyone else is in the same boat...

    Wishing you all a healthy and good new year...

    ~ Melanie

  • mvspaulding
    mvspaulding Member Posts: 446
    edited January 2016

    Welcome Melanie to our group,but sorry you find yourself here. Our paths are very similar, I was also diagnosed in Sept and had BMX in late Oct. Only difference is I was ER+, PR- . So my oncotype came back in the high range. I just had my second infusion of TC yesterday. If you have any questions this group is great at providing knowledge :)

    Missy

  • Noni
    Noni Member Posts: 327
    edited January 2016

    Today is exactly four weeks since my first infusion and my hair is coming out in clumps. I am surprised it held on this long. My hubby is going to shave it for me because I am tired of seeing my hair all over the place, especially in my food!

    Happy new year ladies.

  • Twirp26
    Twirp26 Member Posts: 178
    edited January 2016

    Happy New Year!!! This is the year of healing!!! Sammy, I also want to do a BMX. I switched oncologists and surgeon after my first treatment, they were both very conservative and kept saying lumpectomy. I also do not want to worry about this every year. (Not that it can't reoccur) I just feel strong about taking both to lessen the chance. I am meeting with surgeon on 1/19. I am not sure of percentages etc but I will find out and post. My new oncologist was very supportive when I said, I think I want a BMX. He said if he were in my seat or his family member was in my seat, he wouldn't argue with me. I wish I had started my treatments with this doctor. I would have been on same regimin as you for 6 then surgery then no more chemo. I will let you know what I learn

  • Mom4272
    Mom4272 Member Posts: 6
    edited January 2016

    Happy New Year to you all! I finished my 2nd AC treatment on the 22nd. The first week was rough and I had my first official meltdown. This week has been much better. I went in Monday to get rehydrated again. I had the same issue a week after my first treatment. I literally ate all day but got sick just thinking about drinking anything. I jokingly while being serious told my oncologist he can expect to see me back for rehydration a week after each treatment. I leave feeling almost 90% better. I use to love ice and hate cold water now I'm finding I can only drink ice cold water

  • rbylake
    rbylake Member Posts: 15
    edited January 2016

    Round 2 yesterday afternoon--I think I was the last patient to leave. But I felt good afterwards and we were able to go watch the fireworks at Gasworks park which overlooks the Seattle skyline and where my DH and I first met on New Years Eve when it turned to 1995.

    My hair was shedding like crazy this last week, I was able to get through the work day yesterday still looking presentable....but as the evening wore on my hair was shedding like crazy (I kept messing with it) and I ended up looking very straggly and sick. So shaving my head this morning felt OK. My DH buzzed it short and I shaved the rest off in shower. It feels weird, my wig is itchy--but I felt I needed a few days to acclimate to the wig and build up tolerance to wearing it for hopefully a full day.

    Birdie--I had a tough week after my first round, ended up in the hospital for a couple days due to low wbc shortly thereafter. But for me, I did start feeling a little more like myself every day after that first week, and hopefully I have a better plan in place to minimize SE this next round. I'm nervous for the next few days, but one friend who recently went through this said her first round was among the toughest--and her fatigue grew during other rounds, but not the other SE's (so that is what I cling to).

    My insurance won't cover the Neulasta shot--which suprised me as I have pretty good insurance. I even ended in the hospital!!! They approved the Neupegin shot, which I have to go in every day for 5 days for the shot. It is so inconvenient as we sold our house recently and are building a new one in the same area--so all my treatment is by our home town--however we are living about 40 minutes south with family while waiting for our new house to be built. I will be appealing this decision.

    Happy new year to everyone! Hopefully by this time next year we will all have full, beautiful heads of hair.

  • chinacat
    chinacat Member Posts: 78
    edited January 2016

    Birdie, I can't stop thinking about you and your post yesterday (A shorter life...nothing but daily suffering...). I don't know all of your circumstances so I am not judging you or your choices. Please remember that your treatment is temporary and so is the suffering. Untreated cancer will also result in suffering. Your doctor gives you a treatment plan that will give you the best statistics for survival and lowest chance for recurrence. It doesn't mean there aren't other courses of treatment available, but the statistics may not be as favorable. Find out what other optioins your doctor would recommend. A second opinion is usually covered by insurance. Statistically speaking, with treatment, someday you can look back at this time and it will be a distant memory. I certainly hope that I am not offending you or coming across as judgemental, I'm just concerned for you. And, again, your decision is yours. No-one knows how you feel, not even those of us who are here with you. We are all here for you to vent to and lean on. (((hugs to you)))

  • proctor1725
    proctor1725 Member Posts: 33
    edited January 2016

    Hi Melanie! Yes, you and I are very closely aligned. Diagnosis in September; bilateral in October. Chemo started with Taxol on 12/1 but after an allergic reaction, I was switched to Taxofere on 12/15. My 2nd treatment is 1/5. I noticed just a few days ago large piles of hair on the floor. Looks like I will be shaving this week. Along with my second Taxofere and another nulesta shot (which made me feel terrible last time), I think it is going to be a rough one. trying to stay positive. Just came back from 3 nights in San Antonio with my 5 year old and 2 exchange students. They put a bounce in my step,.....I just hope I can keep it. Melanie - feel free to PM me since we are only a few days off on our treatment. We can compare notes! Hugs to everyone! Let's kick this!

  • Trisha-Anne
    Trisha-Anne Member Posts: 2,112
    edited January 2016

    Twirp, I wanted both breasts off five years ago, and was told no. I wish I had insisted, I wouldn't be doing chemo again if I had. If you want both off - then insist - it's your body and your choice.

    Birdie - (((hugs))) to you - you are the only one who can make the decision as to what treatment, or no treatment you want to do. Just sending you more (((hugs))) coz you really need them xoxo

    Trish

  • lawyer180
    lawyer180 Member Posts: 36
    edited January 2016

    In preparation for treatment # 2 of AC next week and the first time I'll be getting the neulasta shot, I got some Claritin. They only had the 24 hr. non-drowsy kind, so that's what I got. Is this the kind everyone else gets or is there a different type I should look for?

    Also, I am 17 days post treatment # 1, and out of the blue, I have nausea today! Anyone else? This past week was supposed to be the "good week " and it's been one SE after another!

  • Twirp26
    Twirp26 Member Posts: 178
    edited January 2016

    Trisha-Anne, thanks for the support. I'm sure a lot of people think doing a BMX when I only have it in the left might be over kill but I know myself. I think it will bother me more to worry all the time. I'm sure I will still have my share of worry when it's all said and done but hoping this might lessen it a bit. I'm afraid this journey will have altered me forever.

    Birdie, I also can not stop thinking about you. Please keep us posted on your plans whatever they may be. I just know there are other options besides doing nothing. (You are much too young)

    Lawyer180, you got the right stuff. I took mine 2 days prior to shot and 3 days after. I had next to no pain this time. I hope it does the same for you. I used generic brand last time and hurt like hell. I think it made a difference. Good luck ladies!!!

  • LiLNutmeg
    LiLNutmeg Member Posts: 30
    edited January 2016

    Hi Ladies ... and Happy New Year.

    I had my 2nd infusion of FEC on  Dec 29th - so far so good.  I also got the Neulasta shot .   Hair is falling more than the snow outside but have had an awful bout of indigestion .. it's like I have a baseball in my esophagus .. bleh.    I pace myself everyday around my energy level.   Going to try to go back to work part time ... getting bored of daytime tv.

    Wishing you all love, health and joy for 2016





  • mvspaulding
    mvspaulding Member Posts: 446
    edited January 2016

    Did my Neulasta auto injector yesterday and it worked perfectly but have to say I am not feeling good this morning. Feel like someone has beat me in my upper body. Not sure if this shot is worth it. I took Claritin the day before chemo, day of and day after too.

  • Lyra10
    Lyra10 Member Posts: 59
    edited January 2016

    Happy New Year everyone. I had round 2 on 12/31 and knock on wood all good with no SE. I am losing my stubble hot & heavy though. I am so sorry for all the pain you are all dealing with. Hubby was down with flu last two days and it's been hard managing wearing a mask and explaining it to my 3 year old. I think he's all better now and I'm chock full of airbourne with extra Vitamin C


  • brithael
    brithael Member Posts: 224
    edited January 2016

    Day 5 - joint pain is better, but then I'm also taking Tylenol arthritis pain and ibuprofen. No major nausea - still taking Zofran, just feeling fragile. Tired, very tired. Tongue looked whitish this am, but then I forgot to brush it and use the biotene before bed last night, so maybe it's OK. Still can't get my lower GI back on track. Thought for a while I was past the constipation and headed for diarrhea, so quit the stool softener. Back to stool softener and Miralax today.

  • Lou53
    Lou53 Member Posts: 81
    edited January 2016

    Brithael, I gargle with salt water and baking soda. Haven't had any problem with dryness or sores. I do it about 5 times a day. It's kinda hard as I have acquired a distaste for salt, but it's worth it. :

  • proctor1725
    proctor1725 Member Posts: 33
    edited January 2016

    Myspaulding: I felt awful too after the shot. Flu like symptoms but my WBC was at 0.5 so I had to do it. I don't want to go in the hospital and if that is what it takes, I will suffer three more times with the shot. Hang in there! My chemo nurse is very blunt: "I have had patients get sick and die because their WBC was down. I don't want that to happen to you." You got this!

  • PezGal
    PezGal Member Posts: 99
    edited January 2016

    Geeze, for what ever reason this third AC has kicked my butt. Got it Thursday and have been super low energy ever since. Reminds me of my 1/2 marathon days where I'd be tired from head to toe for the rest of the day after the race. Body exhaustion. Fatigue has finally caught up wit me, and it's pissed. Boo!

  • proctor1725
    proctor1725 Member Posts: 33
    edited January 2016

    Hang in there PezGal! Rest when you can and know that this will pass. Hugs from Texas!

  • stotamom
    stotamom Member Posts: 41
    edited January 2016

    Twirp - I had a DMX and "only" had the cancer in one breast. I do not regret having the DBX for one minute. If that is what your leaning towards then I think I would def go for it. I'm glad you found a dr willing to listen to you. Seems these days they can be hard to come by.

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