ILC recurrance statistics
Hey! I'm new to this site... really need some support/guidance. TODAY is my 10 year survivor anniversary!!!! A day that I should be celebrating from the core of my being but, yesterday I had my annual follow-up visit with oncologist and according to her, the practice has had 3 20-year survivors with recurrence the past couple of months. I was diagnosed in 2005 with stage 2 ILC, Er/PR pos.,1 micromets lymph node left side. Had bilateral mastectomy with implants/reconstruction...no radiation, 6 chemo trmts and 5 years tamoxifen. ~ Onc. says that ER pos. cancers are never really "out of the woods" and the ILC adds an even scarier component to the outcome. ILC recurrences are usually more aggressive and can recur pretty much anywhere in or on the body.
SO, I'm not exactly happy today...I feel a little hopeless...actually kind of anxious like I felt when I was first diagnosed....which is why I'm reaching out to you all...
Are there many of you that are well past the 10 year mark? I'm 52 years old...often saying that I will live to be 92 (I was diagnosed at 42)...not feeling it now.
I NEED SOME HOPE AGAIN!!!!!!
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BillysWife,
Welcome and thank you for posting! 10 years is great and you shouldn't let fear of recurrence keep you from enjoying the moment!
There are many, many members here well past the 10 year mark -- but most of those members are no longer posting in this community, as they are out and enjoying their lives! They will however, check back in here and there and let us know how they're doing.
Please don't feel hopeless -- you're doing great! For some more inspiration, check out these threads:
And, read stories from Members for 10 Years or More on our main Breastcancer.org site.
We hope this helps!
--The Mods
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Dear BillysWife:
Congratulations on your 10 year anniversary of being cancer free. That is wonderful. Look at how great that is,rather than at the fact that a person in that imaging office caused you a great deal of stress for absolutely no reason. She should not have brought up other patients and caused you to worry. That is unconscionable. You have no reason to believe that you will have a recurrence. Try to stay positive. I don't have statistics but I can wish you well. Good luck and celebrate your 10 year healthy anniversary!
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Hey! Congrats on 10 years! I don't think it is time for you to worry at all. You have already bitten so many statistics, so what is going to stop you from your 92 goal? I can tell you about my grandmother, although I don't know a lot about her dx, don't know what type it was, but still, whenever I start to worry I remember her. She was dx first time when she was 52, stage lllb, with extremely aggressive form of cancer, she got really terrible prognosis from her doctor, had recurrence 10years later at 62, (she even refuzed chemo for recurrence, just radiation) and after that lived 20 more healthy years and died from a hart attack last year in 82.
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Congrats on 10 years. Your onc. bummed you out unnecessarily and should have kept her mouth shut! I think it's just a coincidence that her practice had 3 survivors that recurred. She could wind up with no more recurrences from long time survivors now, for years. Three out of 20 is only 15% which seems like a positive, and there is no reason why you won't be in the 85% category! You have no idea what their overall health is, what stage they were in initially, what treatment they had, or anything.
Even if it does recur, it doesn't mean that recurrence will take you out, either. It just means you'll treat it and move on with your life, as you are already doing.
Hugs/now go eat cake or whatever you will do to celebrate!!!
Claire in AZ
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We are not our cancers. Sure, anyone dx once is always fully aware that a possibility exists it may come back, but you are not a statistic. And I agree...how dare a medical professional compare you to other patients and worse still ...SHARE that with you! Interestingly, I just had my onc visit in November and she said that many of her patients never get BC recurrence (of course, there will always be some since cancer is evil) but she said a good majority of her patients are "cured" in the respect that they never present with another cancer ever again. She said she has several patients in the 30 year range (we live in a small town so not a lot of patients in general).
Did they tell you what kind of cancer they had? Did they tell you what type of treatments they had (or refused)? did they tell you how well these people will do now that a recurrence occurred? Did they tell you if these women stuck with any protocol that was suggested to them? There are newer treatments. 20 years ago, these gals may not have gotten the benefits or the precision of treatment, that many of us are seeing today. There are immuno-therapy treatments, new anti-hormonals, better diagnostics and more precise surgery.
For that medical professional to imply that because it happened to someone it will happen to you....is not a medical professional at all. Sure, some cancers do come back...but if they knew which ones, none of us would be sitting here feeling like cows to slaughter, would we? Plus....if she "gave" you 10 more years, imagine what research may hold as an arsenal in our fight!! Go live your life and plan on proving them wrong!!
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OH MY GREAT GOODNESS!!!!
I just read these messages from you all and I have to say THANK YOU SOOO, SO MUCH!
Wallycat, you make some very good points. I guess it's easy to get lost in the worry sometimes and forget the facts.
I have progressively felt better & better over the past few days about it all. I actually called the PA the next day and asked her to call me back.....when she did, the first thing I said to her is "I don't want you to feel bad, but I have been in a funk ever since my appointment". She DID admit that we got so focused on the negative that we completely over looked the positive....10 years of surviving! I'm back on track now...emotionally, mentally....planning events and such through the next ohhh, 40 years of my life
!!Thank you all so much for taking the time to make me feel better...it really has helped!
Today is Christmas Eve.....I hope you're all having a WONDERFILLED time with your friends and families! My Best.....Crystal
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oh my- what everyone else has said is true-- here's something to help you --I have a friend who was recently diagnosed with a cyst (different part of the body). They told her that there was a 75% chance that it would be malignant. When we talked, I have to admit, my mind went right to the 75%, but what I said to her was "there is no reason you should not be in the 25%". And that is what we held onto-and guess what--she was!!!!!
I am 7 years out-- my onc told me that ILC was slow growing-- so I take heart in that-- also, I think the way we are followed helps us find things earlier… I admit-I sometimes get a pain or a reaction to something and I have some anxiety, but it is fairly low level now. You are technically correct, ER+ can indeed come back, but lots of other things can happen as well…. you know, the old "I could get hit by a bus" tomorrow theory!
I am glad you have come around…. and are looking to the future. There is no reason not to…when I get in a funk about this I find that planning ahead or doing something else helps.
I think, in many ways, we are lucky. We know so much better than anyone else how precious it all is and we appreciate it so much more. We are followed closely, we are more in tune than most with own bodies, we are our own best advocates and we know how to support others in the same situation.
glad you called them back and let them know how it bothered you…. they need to hear that their words make a difference!
Happy New Year!
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Yikes! sorry your onco said that! oh well! you're still here and NED! I forget about mine at times and plan ahead regardless - I may still choke on that nut, have a boating accident or whatever else may kill me. I say full steam ahead! I plan on building my retirement home in the Colorado mountains next spring and enjoying as much travel as I can afford. I'm 52 so I choose life every day... If my cancer returns, well then it does. Your loved ones don't want to hear about it while your NED...wait and talk about once there exists a real concern. ...and tell your Onco that he should watch out - he might be next!!! LOL
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I love this thread!!! Needed some positivity today, and here it is. Happy New Year, wonderful ladies!
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You ladies make me feel so much better as well.
First of all, CONGRATS on your 10 year NED anniversary.
I had one of those appointments with a new doctor today (my onco retired last month). I have been NED for 16 months now and feeling pretty good about my check ups and finally getting to where I don't think about having cancer every day. Today, this idiot told me that I was "cured" from breast cancer and now we have to start worrying about where another cancer, if any, would pop up in my body. He is concerned that my protein level was .1% higher than my last checkup. Idiot!!!!!
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