Multifocal how bad is it?
- Well I went from no lump clear ultrasound and mammogram with calcifications to IDCIS multi focal DCI in 3 places,( diagnosed after MRI). Surgery is next week, they are going to take the hole breast out. How bad is this? Does it increase my chance of lymph node involvement?
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This must be incredibly overwhelming to face losing a breast.
I am not sure I can answer your question but I had DCIS in 2 places in my breast. They found it using a diagnostic biopsy rather than an MRI.. When I had surgery They found two small IDC tumors grade 3. My situation was similar in that I had a mastectomy but I had clear nodes( I would insist they do a sentinal node even for DCIS) and They sent the small tumors for testing. I was able to have a TE explander placed during the surgery and scheduled reconstruction 6 months later. I am telling you this so you don't panic. Your doctor should have a look at your lymph nodes. Its likely they are clear. I know it is hard to tell you this but I cried the whole week I was waiting for results. It was later as I was farther on this journey I realized that its ok to take things one day at a time and not panic until you have all the data. Its ok to slow down and get all the information and understand what is going to happen with your breast. Write down your questions and make sure you have a good BS who will answer them.
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Hi, thanks for your answer, actually I am not worried because I am losing a breast, what I am scare of now is the lymph nodes because is Multifocal . I am not even going for reconstruction yet
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Yes I had 2 tumors one IDC one ILC multicentric and focal. I had mastectomy no lymph nodes and no radiation. Chemo was recommended from high oncodx but I didn't do it. 4 years no problems just se from exemestane.
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If I had known how good DIEP surgery would turn out I would not have grieved as much from mastectomy.
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Konakona - you can use this Sloan Kettering Breast Cancer nomogram (above link) to calculate the chance of being sentinel node positive. I had multifocal invasive ductal carcinoma (IDC). In my case when I plugged my information into the calculator being multifocal did increase my chance of being sentinel node positive - but my sentinel node biopsy came back negative. (When the sentinal node biopsy nomogram asks for the size of the largest tumor , put in the size of the largest invasive tumor (not the size of a DCIS tumor))..
If you want information about breast reconstruction (breast reconstruction options, how to choose a good plastic surgeon, etc) a great resource is the latest edition of Kathy Steligo's "Breast Reconstruction Guidebook"
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thanks besa
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Konakona:
Your initial stereotactic biopsy showed DCIS and IDC as I recall.
I thought you had an MRI only (imaging only) last week, not an MRI-guided biopsy. Were the additional areas of suspicion identified by MRI actually biopsied or not?
BarredOwl
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I had 18 grade 3 invasive tumors and only 2 micromets in one lymph node. It may affect the type of surgery you can have but most likely it will not affect the treatmet. I was multifocal and multicentric and needed radiation even after mastectomy. Are you young? Are you BRCA positive?
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Konakona,
I had 3 small areas in my left breast with IDC but no node involvement. I also had paget's. I hope your nodes are clear and I wish you the best of luck in your surgery.
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Yes Barred Owl, only MRI no MRI guided biopsy
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Konakona, multifocal and multicentric are use to identify characteristics of the IDC (same tumor or different tumors). Re the lymph nodes, did the MRI identify suspicious areas in the axillary section? I would ask the surgeon if a sentinel node test will be completed before the surgery.
I had multifocal (same kind of tumor but spread in the breast). When I did the u/s the technician looked at the armpit nodes and one of them was enlarged. The same result was provided by the MRI but the number of nodes had increased to two. I had mastectomy and all the nodes removed.
I think the direction is to do more sentinel node testing to identify node involvement. Ask your surgeon.
Good luck with the surgery (it's not bad) and wish you a quick recovery!!
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Hi Lolis, no lymph node involvement in the MRI, they will do the sentinel test the day of the surgery
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Konakona I had 2 multifocal tumors in the same breast. My doc told me it increases your chance of lymph node involvement a little bit. He said he thought my nodes were clear and they were. They used to stage it by the combined size but found it overkill. Now they stage it by the largest invasive cancer and of course node involvement. Try not to worry that much about the multi focal issue as it does not change prognosis very much if at all. Good luck and keep us posted...
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Hi Konakona:
Thanks, and my understanding is the stereotactic biopsy found IDC and some DCIS. Then you had an MRI, which identified additional areas of suspicion, but these have not been biopsied.
The only way to know if a suspicious area on MRI is cancer or not is to biopsy the area and have a pathologist examine the tissue.
MRI is very sensitive and yields "false positives" more than other kinds of imaging. This means that an area of suspicion identified by MRI, might actually be benign on tissue biopsy. (I had two areas biopsied by MRI that were benign.)
Sometimes, a person might simply prefer to have a mastectomy rather than lumpectomy (with possible re-excisions), and possibly avoid radiation therapy by mastectomy**.
However, if you are wishing you could have a lumpectomy, then did they tell you that it is not feasible or not practical to biopsy one or more of the areas identified by MRI? For example, are the suspicious areas each in different quadrants of the breast and distant from the area of disease found by biopsy?
If you wish you could have a lumpectomy, you could ask the doctor if there is an MRI-guided biopsy strategy that could yield helpful information (e.g., a benign finding) that may make lumpectomy an option for you.
Also, if you wish, you could seek confirmation of the recommendation for mastectomy through a second opinion at another hospital. The second opinion entails a review of the pathology slides (sent overnight), all imaging to date, including the MRI, and the recommendation for mastectomy. It is possible that the recommendation for mastectomy would be confirmed, or that additional imaging or biopsy might be recommended before settling the surgical plan.
BarredOwl
**Occasionally, even with mastectomy, certain pathology findings on the surgical samples might lead to a recommendation of radiation.
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Just chiming in to say I agree with BarredOwl.
I think we were dx at the same time, Kona. I also have IDC, with some DCIS. On my MRI last Monday, the radiologist came back with this:
In the left breast from the 7:00 position 8 cm from the nipple the biopsy-proven malignancy with intermediate and rapid initial uptake and washout is identified. There is extension anterior to the mass. It extends anteriorly measuring in total 3.3 x 0.3 x 2.1cm. The extension anterior may represent ductal carcinoma in situ therefore if clinically warranted MRI guided biopsy of the most anterior extent may be performed.
I'm having MRI guided biopsy on Wed. I'm still hopefully I can get away with a lumpectomy.
If you'd prefer not to have a mastectomy, I'd definitely ask for a biopsy.
Amy
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konakona-I Also agree with all that BarredOwl posted -very good information and very good advice.
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well, got the mastectomy on thursday, I am back home, sentinel node negative
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Hi Konakona:
Glad you are through the surgery with good news re sentinel nodes.
BarredOwl
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Great news on the node! Glad you through the surgery! I just got my date.. 1/5. I hope you're healing well!
Amy
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welcome home, kona xxxooo
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