Starting Chemo December 2015

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  • Trisha-Anne
    Trisha-Anne Member Posts: 2,112
    edited December 2015

    WarriorCheryl

    You'll be grateful for the port. The chances for infection are low - the nurses know how to look after it. The fact that it's under your skin make infections much, much less. The Herceptin doesn't have the same side effects as chemo - I did 12 months of it the first time around and it was a piece of cake. It did get a bit harder towards the end, but I worked full time thoughout the Herceptin treatments, just taking a couple of hours off for each treatment and then back to work.

    Trish

    xoxo

  • Opt4Life
    Opt4Life Member Posts: 191
    edited December 2015

    Hello my December Chemo sisters, just checking in sending positive vibes to those already started and those who will start soon. I had my second of 12 Taxol rounds today and so far so good. I have felt pretty good all week. I've had no SEs except constipation which an extra dose of Miralax has since resolved. Praying for treatment and healing blessings

  • Twirp26
    Twirp26 Member Posts: 178
    edited December 2015

    So glad to hear you are doing well Opt4Life!! That is great news!! I am one week past my first treatment and my main problem are my taste buds. I can not taste much of anything and lots of things just taste bad. I am trying to stay positive thinking, at least I'm not nauseous or vomiting but my zest for food is gone. It is a disappointment every time I have to eat or drink.What kills me as well is when people say, "well at least you won't gain weight!" "That's not bad, at least you won't eat a lot!" I don't think people understand the importance of a simple sense like taste. I know there is a lot I will not take for granted after this journey. Sorry for the rant tonight. Just feeling frustrated:( hugs to all my December Chemo sisters!!!!!

  • sbf-ok
    sbf-ok Member Posts: 7
    edited December 2015

    Hello everyone. I was wondering if anyone would be willing to offer some advice? I apologize in advance for such a long post. I am just very anxious and overwhelmed.

    My mother starts her neoadjuvant chemo this coming Tuesday (TCPH). Due to her still being in shock, I have been the one making a majority of the decisions because she isn't able to focus and is absolutely overwhelmed. I do not mind helping her. I actually enjoy spending the extra time with her and being for her what she has been for me my entire life. However, I am scared that I will make a wrong decision and she will be the one who suffers. With this being said, she says that she is comfortable with her treatment plan but scared of not knowing what is to come. I have been on these forums reading posts for a month now and looking up every thing related to her diagnosis and treatments trying to gather insight to relay to her. I made her a folder with all of the information/results/dr's cards, etc, and a step by step guide to her treatment plan.

    Now, I need to go and get her anything she might need. If someone could give me an idea of what to pack in her "chemo bag" and items she might need afterwards, it would be greatly appreciated.

    Also, I would like to know if it is safe for her to stay at home alone. My dad passed away 3 years ago so she lives by herself. I really want her to come stay with me. But, she is apprehensive because I have 3 kids ( (8, 12, and 15...15 yo is on an immunosuppressant for Crohn's) that seem to always have some type of bug. I need to know what is best for her. I cannot go and stay with her being that I have 3 extremely busy kids to take care of. If it is best for her to stay at home, what can I do to make sure her environment is clean and comfortable enough? How can I be certain she is okay if I am not with her?

    One last thing, could someone tell me the things that others did/do for you that helps to make this fight a little easier?

  • Skittlegirl
    Skittlegirl Member Posts: 428
    edited December 2015

    TCHP means her infusion days will be long. My first infusion was around 8 hours. Perjeta and herceptin are administered over 90 minutes each with a 30 minute wait after Perjeta. After the first infusion, the next times they can do them over 30 minutes each, but infusion still takes me about 5 hours at least.

    On chemo days I have a friend who brings me lunch, which is awesome because the infusion center only carries snacks like crackers and granola bars. I just watch DVDs during infusion because the pre-med dose of benadryl makes me too loopy to focus on anything.

    My worst days are days 4 and 5, counting infusion as day 1. Meals that can just be heated easily are what she will need on those days. Usually I shuffle out of my room, throw some food together, eat it and go back to my room to lay down on my bad days.

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited December 2015

    Hello December Ladies! I'm dropping in to wish you all the best, and hoping that the SE are few. I finished chemo 11-25-2014 and surgery on 12-15-2014. I started 2015 with rads and finished in late March. You got this! My last scans and CT are all clean!!


    Just remember, YOU are worth all of the effort! This year will be all about you for a great reason, to get healthy and kick cancer.

    Good Luck! Cheryl

  • Lou53
    Lou53 Member Posts: 81
    edited December 2015

    Hi all,

    I start my chemo next week and am terrified. I am trying hard to be positive but the fear is crippling. I feel like I am in a never ending nightmare. From finding the lump to tests, the biopsy, surgery and port placement it has already been four months of hell. Now I begin the worst part of this battle for what seems like an eternity. Everyone here seems so brave and I feel like the biggest wimp ever! I am hoping after the first treatment I will settle down some. The unknown is horrid.


  • demarie
    demarie Member Posts: 20
    edited December 2015

    Hello Ladies,

    That is wonderful news Cheryl. Big congratulations to you. ps, love your avitar

    Skittlegirl, Thank you for mentioning the time the infusions took, I start TCHP on the 16th and I never thought to even ask. I will definitely pack a lunch and beverage just in case it is needed.

    Twirp26 People sure say the strangest things, I truly think they just are so uncomfortable that they feel like they have to say something. I had someone tell me that I was lucky that I wasn't like her friend with bc who has to have chemo every day. I know she meant well saying that but all I could think is OMG they have no clue sometimes. Sorry to hear the SE are already setting in, I worry more about food and water tasting bad than losing my hair, I can buy a wig, hat, scarf, all kinds of options but how do I fix taste. Totally understand

    As for me, all the anxiety I had about the port procedure is gone and the procedure is done. Also had the ultrasound done on my nodes afterwards and the tech had a hard time even finding them so I am assuming that was a good sign. No mention of doing a biopsy on them so I walked out doing the happy dance, well the best dance I could do, as I was still a little fuzzy from the port procedure.

  • Twirp26
    Twirp26 Member Posts: 178
    edited December 2015

    Lou53, Hang in there. I was in your shoes a little over a week ago and was so scared about starting my Chemo. I am on day 9 and I am feeling pretty much back to "normal" yeah there are things that suck, (the taste issue) but over all I am trying to be life as usual. I can tell you that I was petrified when I walked through the door to get my treatment but walked out thinking, that was a piece of cake. I didn't experience pain, nausea or anything bad. I pray you have a similar experience. It is totally the unknown that stinks. Just take it one day at a time.

    Demarie, so glad your port procedure went well. I am so happy to have mine in place. I think this would do a number on our veins if we didn't have one. Good luck on the 16th too. I am sure everything will go well. I appreciate all the support I am getting on this site. It really helps to talk with other women who "feel my pain" so to speak. Best of luck to everyone starting Chemo today and in the weeks to come!!

  • Sammy3
    Sammy3 Member Posts: 136
    edited December 2015

    I had my first chemo day yesterday. It was definitely a long day as I am getting the 4 drugs. The first time they do the Perjeta and Herceptin over 90 mins (each) , then my Taxotere & Carpoplatin 60 each. I am feeling pretty good, just a little tired. I am waiting for the bad effects to hit in the days ahead.

  • Denise-G
    Denise-G Member Posts: 1,777
    edited December 2015

    sbf-ok - I wanted to give you a little encouragement for your mom about her living alone.

    I am single and went through chemo alone. My sister (also breast cancer) is single and just

    finished chemo in October. We both made it through chemo -- but we checked on each

    other first thing every morning to make sure all was okay. I wanted to stay home and so did

    my sister.

    During AC, I made sure I had family members lined up to help my sister on her "bad" days taking

    food, going to the grocery store, etc.

    I write a breast cancer blog and hear from hundreds and hundreds of breast cancer patients. Many

    do it on their own.

    One thing for a chemo bag that is often overlooked - Poise pads or Depends. Both my sister and I

    had trouble on chemo day making it to the bathroom in time! Also, Tuk pads - (rectal wipes) are

    really helpful to have at home. I recommend this to all cancer patients. Chemo is tough on gentle

    skin. The Tuk pads are soothing. My sister thought I was crazy when I brought her Tuk pads. Boy, was she happy I did!

    Sending my best!

  • sbf-ok
    sbf-ok Member Posts: 7
    edited December 2015

    Skittlegirl- Thank you for your response. I am glad that you gave me a heads up on the amount of time the first infusion will take. I now know to have someone on standby to take care of the kids after school. I will be sure to prepare her some meals that can be heated up and check on her frequently throughout the day. Thank you again!!

    Denise-G- Thank you for the tips! I would have never thought of Poise pads Or Tuk pads!!! I am adding these to my shopping list! And thank you for letting me know that staying alone during all of this is doable. I just worry so much about her when I am away. I will be sure that we both check out your blog! I am glad that you and your sister are finished with your tx!

    I am so very sorry that all of you are going through this. But I truly appreciate knowing that my mom isn't alone in this. I am going to set her up an account so she will be able to talk to you amazing ladies! Thank you again! Wishing all of you the best!!

  • Shopgal2
    Shopgal2 Member Posts: 649
    edited December 2015

    Hi dec gals, dropping in from the sept group to offer encouragement. I finished chemo yesterday 4 dense adriamycin & cytoxin and 4 dose dense taxol. It was tough but doable. Feel free to drop by the sept boards for tips. Best advice I can give is to take the meds, use a mouth rinse, Claritin for neulesta, eat small meals, keep ahead of the constipation, and rest a lot. For those worried about hair, you will know when to buzz because your scalp will hurt and it will feel like your hair is pulling. Plus the shedding and hair falling out will be bothersome. I felt better when I buzzed mine at day 17. And my hair started to grow back a bit at the 4th AC. Also call your MO or onco nurse with any questions weird side effects.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2015

    Chemo before surgery? I'm a a very nervous newly diagnosed member of this club. Thank you for being here ♡ I'm still trying to understand the whirlwind of the past 4 weeks. I will have a port installed on Dec. 16 and first 5 hour chemo on Dec. 22. 4 1/2 months of chemo recommended BEFORE lumpectomy, then radiation, then Tamoxifen. I'm 59 with severe fibromyalgia, otherwise healthy. My Fibro is made bearable with meds and a 3 year old Princess, my grand daughter. On to my question please....How can I find others here who have had chemo to shrink thier tumor before surgical removal? I tried a search of that phrase but no result. Thank you, and bless each of you on your life's journey.



  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2015

    Hi Ladies, it appears I have chemo (AC) staring Dec 14. I got my port inserted yesterday and it is making me miserable. It pulls, hurts, and burns. I know I will be happy I have it, but right now it's awful and won't even let me sleep. I'm nervous about chemo. My ONC has been very clear that I will lose ALL my hair so I won't bother with a cold cap. My mom will cut 7 inches off tomorrow so it will be around my shoulders. I have chemo teaching and expander fill tomorrow. My last fill I broke into a sweat and almost vomited. Between the biopsy, mastectomy, tissue expander, and port insertion I am beginning to feel rather traumatized. 6 months of chemo and 9 months of Herceptin is ahead. I am praying for strength. Please tell me this port gets better soon?

  • CyndiNic
    CyndiNic Member Posts: 59
    edited December 2015

    sugar and spice

    So much happens so quickly!! The port DOES get better - my BS made it sound so simple (I think I set my hopes too high about how I would feel because of that) but I absolutely had a few days of pain and discomfort after the placement. Took me a few nights before I slept well (I came close to sleeping sitting up the second night) and now I would never even know that I have it (was put in Nov 20). You are so correct that you will be happy you have it. Best of luck with chemo!!

  • Skittlegirl
    Skittlegirl Member Posts: 428
    edited December 2015

    Birdie you can search neoadjunct chemo, which is chemo before surgery. My tumor has shrunk so much that you can't feel it anymore. So at least the chemo is effective against it. The response doesn't change the surgery option. It's still a mastectomy once I get to that point.

  • Twirp26
    Twirp26 Member Posts: 178
    edited December 2015

    Birdie56, I am also getting neoadjuvent therapy. I thought it was strange as well but I guess they want to shrink it down as much as possible before surgery. Mine does not have clear margins so I think that has something to do with it as well.


    Sugar and Spice, the port will get better I promise!! Mine bothered me for a few weeks. I could feel a pull in my neck and hurt to lay on my right side. I had mine put in November 13th and it is just part of my body now. I understand your discomfort though:( just have peace knowing it will get better!!!
    Shop gal, thanks for the encouragement!! I really don't know what I would do without this support system. Good luck BC sisters!!! We can do this! One day at a time we will kick cancers butt!!!
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2015

    Thanks so much SkittleGirl, and best wishes.

  • sauterelle
    sauterelle Member Posts: 5
    edited December 2015

    PezGal, do you think the Claritin helped? And what has your appetite been like?

    I'll be starting chemo with 2 drugs (first, before surgery) on Dec 14. I aim to stock up on meds, mouth rinse and headscarves this weekend before port installation and chemo Monday am.

  • sauterelle
    sauterelle Member Posts: 5
    edited December 2015

    Hi Birdie56, I will be starting chemo first on Monday; 8 weeks of a 2-drug combo to be followed by 12 weeks of Taxol, which will take me to the end of April if all goes as scheduled, to be followed by lumpectomy after that, hopefully in May. I'm told this treatment could shrink the tumor by 20-30%. I'm 48 and pre-menopausal, and otherwise pretty healthy. I think about the hair loss a lot now, and I want to take it all off the day after XMas.

  • Opt4Life
    Opt4Life Member Posts: 191
    edited December 2015

    Hi Saturelle, we are the same age and I am also pre-menopause. I was told the same thing about neoadjuvant therapy shrinking tumor about 20 to 30 %. I also have a positive lymph node that they expect chemo to clear along with any other floating cells elsewhere. Since, I'm ER+ and PR+ and HER-, I was told that a complete response wasnt likely though.

    I also went ahead and cut my hair very short and after 2 Taxol treatments, its growing....go figure. Like you I am relatively healthy, still work, and workout daily. Chemo isn't fun but it is so doable and so far, I have had few SEs. You can do this!

  • PezGal
    PezGal Member Posts: 99
    edited December 2015

    Hey Sauterelle - I don't know if the Claritin is working, but I know I haven't had any of the joint or muscle pain they talk about. I figure if it ain't broke don't fix it, so I will continue to do it for upcoming treatments. I started taking it the day before chemo (2 days before neulasta) and continued for a week. As far as appetite - mine is well. Maybe a little too well! I'm like a machine eating food. My stomach is growling right now! Everything still tastes the same and I'm shoveling it down. Don't know if that's from the steroids, the holidays, or making up for lost time (not having an appetite for the last few months due to stress), but food is not a problem for me.

    I'd say overall my only complaint about SE's this first go-around has been headaches and tiredness. Only one night after work (and a big dinner of course) did I have unbearable tiredness where I had to go to bed at 7pm. Yesterday I felt pretty good, and its been a while, and got a lot of stuff done. So one week of feeling blah, one week of good? I hear SE's are cumulative, as in they last a little longer each time, but hopefully not too much. I think this would totally be doable to do while living alone. Make sure lots of drinks and snacks are around and just keep remembering that this is temporary. This is temporary. This is temporary!

    Now, let me go find a snack.....

  • proctor1725
    proctor1725 Member Posts: 33
    edited December 2015

    Include me too. I started technically in November but had an allergic reaction to the Taxol. I am doing OK with the herceptin but I will start Taxotere on the 15th of December. Stay strong my fellow warriors. I am new to this site but will try to update my diagnosis soon. Thanks

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited December 2015

    Welcome to you proctor1725,

    We look forward to hearing more from you. The Mods

  • Trisha-Anne
    Trisha-Anne Member Posts: 2,112
    edited December 2015

    The port will get better, just remember not to reach too far with the arm on that side for a few weeks. I did that with my first port and it felt like it had been ripped out of the vein! It hadn't, but gave me a scare.

    I had this port put in during the mastectomy, and it hasn't bothered me at all. I guess with all the discomfort of the mx I didn't notice it much. It does help a lot, especially for you girls having herceptin, there's a lot of infusions for that.

    I remember when I was having Taxotere the last time I had a lot of bone pain, and had panadeine forte (not sure what you guys call it in the States?) it helped a lot with the pain.

    Taste changes are horrible, and mine were worse on Taxotere, nothing much you can do about that, but make sure you stay hydrated, and sometimes drinking through a straw helps. You can also put some cordial into the water and sometimes that helps. The trick is to find something that doesn't taste too bad and stick with it.

    Tiredness is universal - and gets worse as you go on. Just make sure you rest a lot - listen to your body, if you are tired have a nap, don't try to push through it, that just doesn't work.

    I'm not looking forward to my first treatment next week, but am now resigned to it.

    The other thing to remember is that chemo messes with your head. It can make you very emotional, so come on here and rant and cry - we can all support each other.

    Trish

    xoxox

  • Noni
    Noni Member Posts: 327
    edited December 2015

    Another 48 year old here. Strange coincidence. I had my first treatment today and feel nothing from the chemo.

    I had my port placed yesterday and that was an entirely different story. It was a long day. I met with my MO, had the chemo teach, then they brought me over to the surgery room for the port. It was a quick procedure and relatively painless but they sent me home without any pain meds. Within an hour I was nauseous, writhing in pain, then vomiting. I vomited all night from the pain and coughing and didn't sleep at all. I thought for sure they wouldn't allow treatment this morning because I was such a mess, but my vitals were okay and they just gave me a bit of pain meds beforehand. They accessed my port with very little pain and it worked like a charm.

    I slept during most of the infusion. When I woke up I asked if they had started and they said I only had 10 minutes to go. I spent the rest of today eating, walking slowly, and keeping active. I am actually enjoying the fact that I fell 1000% better than last night.

  • NewDay123
    NewDay123 Member Posts: 71
    edited March 2021

    Hi, joining you ladies here, I'll be starting next week. A bit freaked out, if I think about it, so trying not to. It's good to be on here with you all.

  • KrisCrzala
    KrisCrzala Member Posts: 32
    edited December 2015

    rbylake - I'm on AC for 4 3wk does and then 12 weeks of taxol.

    I had my first infusion of AC on Dec 10th. First two days are normal other than 1 night of sweating and some tiredness later in the day. Everyone keeps saying wait for the 3rd day but I'm going to stay positive. I had my booster shot yesterday. Trying to keep a normal life other than all the hand washing. LOL I've turned into a freak!! Trying to eat really healthy which is a lot easier than what I thought. I want to fight this so much it makes everything so much easier. I saw my ocon doc before my first chemo treatment and asked him why I needed 2 phases of chemo and what my chances of reoccurrence were. I had a 3.1 cm tumor, grade 3, no node involvement. If I do nothing, 40 - 50 % chance of reoccurrence. Holy shit!! If I do the plan he wants, he can reduce this down to 7 to 8%. So now I am not afraid of the chemo anymore. It is my 2nd chance at life. I have 4 grown children, 2 grandsons and 1 due in January. I want to see them grow up.

    For many of us this is so new and scary. Ask questions. No question is stupid. Sometimes I feel foolish asking, but my care team is excellent!! They answer everyone of them and never laugh at them. It's better to make decisions based on education than fear. It will bring some peace & calmness. That's what I found anyway. I found a lot of information on this website which helped me form questions for my care team. Be a warrior!! I'm looking forward to seeing how everyone is doing. We can do this!! Think positive.

    Cancer does not have a face until it's yours or someone you know. Anthony Del Monte

  • KrisCrzala
    KrisCrzala Member Posts: 32
    edited December 2015

    Good luck New Day 123!! You are on the same chemo I'm on. Everyone reacts differently so I'll keep my SE's posted. So far no nausea!! I'm keeping up on my anti nausea meds. Haven't hit day three yet. Went to work and trying to keep up my normal routine. Got a tread mill because I read exercise is important. Getting the chemo was not bad at all. I was scared, but that part was easy. If you need any other meds, don't be afraid to ask. My doctor put me on lorazapam to help enhance the anti-nausea meds, help with anxiety and to sleep. So it kills 3 birds with one stone. Sometimes I cant sleep because I think too much so we'll see. I hate taking meds so I will use them sparingly after the required doses. You can do this!! One thing my chemo nurse said was Stay Positive. If you are negative you can make yourself sick. Be a warrior!! We are here for you!!

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