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  • Wendy3
    Wendy3 Member Posts: 1,012
    edited December 2015

    Wrenn I'm so sorry I didn't know you had lost a son, that breaks my heart. How much suffering can we stand I wonder sometimes. Are you going to the potluck I want to hug you in person? 

    Beachlife yes I read about vitamin B17 very important so apparently it's in the apricot kernels and apple seeds. So I cheaped out and eat the seeds of the apples I juice with my veggies every morning. Supposedly almonds used to contain B17 but have been messed with to get ride of that bitter taste associated with B17 so nothing there anymore.☺️

  • DeltaLady
    DeltaLady Member Posts: 23
    edited December 2015

    Beach Life, Please tell me more about "cancer personality." Having had a career as a caregiver, it's really hard to give up on the concept. But hubby asks me EVERYTHING. Typical example: "Will you put the milk away please." His response: "where does it go?" He's become very childlike and it bugs me, then I get annoyed with myself for being frustrated with him because I don't think he's doing it on purpose. Interestingly, he passed a dementia screening test, so nobody believes me when I say he's not communicating normally.

    I was sort of joking about the coffee. it seems that everything is either good or bad for you at varying times after dierent studies.

    DL


  • NewDay123
    NewDay123 Member Posts: 71
    edited March 2021

    I got diagnosed recently. Waiting for the call to start chemo. Great to see so many of you on here. Did you Canadian gals get an MRI? I didn't. Wondering if that makes a difference or not?

    It's great to see a survivors group.

    Holding my fear at bay by basically not thinking about it,... mostly.

  • Wendy3
    Wendy3 Member Posts: 1,012
    edited December 2015

    Welcome NewDay123 sorry your in this boat but on these threads you will find lots of advice and kindness. It's scary at first but it gets easier with time sounds like you are getting into the treatment path very quickly that's great it will help. I never had any chemo or radiation so I can't advise there but I'm sure others will be b shortly. Yes I did have an MRI and a pets scan and a ct scan kind of nessecary to get the full picture. Just so your aware we are not all survivors with pink ribbons but we are here to help if we can.

    Wendy

  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited December 2015

    Hi NewDay123. Where do you live as maybe there are some of us in your area who have had similar experiences in their cancer agencies? Before chemo I had a bone scan and abdominal CT scan. Many women also get Echocardiograms or other heart tests depending the the chemo being used. I asked about that first visit with my MO (medical oncologist) but she said only those over 60 usually get them. I was 63 but she said I had just trekked at high altitudes so not needed. In retrospect I would have asked to have it as I had a couple of odd high heart rates scares trekking in Nepal last year. Cardiologist and echo and all OK just heart rate still high on climbing~~will never know if it was caused by chemo but I am still trekking!

    I did have a PET scan the day I started chemo as a lung nodule showed up on the CT~~baseline if nothing else but I know it is not standard as very costly.

    If you can figure it out, go to "my profile" and enter what you know now and it will show up under your posts.

  • NewDay123
    NewDay123 Member Posts: 71
    edited March 2021

    Thanks Wendy and Mariane.

    Right! I'm in Rmd, but my GP is willing to refer me to the Vancouver Centre, but I'm currently with a Rmd surgeon and oncologist. Almost forgot, I did get a chest xray. I read some of the other threads. Seem "normal" now to be wondering if the new ache or this/that is a new problem.

    That's so great, Mariane, that you go trekking! Did you have to ask for a bone scan?

  • Kathy044
    Kathy044 Member Posts: 433
    edited December 2015
    Marian speaking of scans I'm scheduled in January for the so called six month followup of the ct scan I had post surgery/pre chemo six years ago. ( 2 lung nodules and a cystic mediastinal mass were of little concern at the time). The radiologist twigged on to the fact that I didn't have one when I went for a chest x ray last month. My family doctor is shaking her head about the amount of radiation but was told to make the order.

    NewDay are you having chemo before surgery? That may be the difference. I did have an MRI to plan lumpectomy surgery but that was because I have ILC (lobular) cancer which is difficult to view on a mammogram, of course that was in 2009 when we still used film mammography. If there is a reason to have an MRI for your cancer treatment you will get one.

    Kathy
  • anamerty
    anamerty Member Posts: 195
    edited December 2015

    hi newday: sorry that you are here but you will see that if you have to be this is the place to be...I see that you are from Richmond..me too been here 59 years lol.I have always been treated by Vancouver cancer clinic ,as you will see from my info I was first dx in 1999 they didn't have any kind of cancer centre at rgh then .glad too as I never would have met my fab.oncol if I hadn't been treated in van. I didn't have any MRI or ct scans after I was dx with BC this 2nd time but I had been getting them every year anyways at the cancer clinic for 13 yrs from my 1st BC to my 2nd BC the protocol for me was mammo them 6 months later MRI then mammo again repeat I have the brca 1 gene as do almost every single family member as well as BC so we are followed closely

  • NewDay123
    NewDay123 Member Posts: 71
    edited March 2021

    Thanks Kathy and anamerty.

    Yes, the oncologist's plan is for chemo first.

    I don't know if I should go with the flow, or push for anything, if anything at all, because I don't even know what. I feel like I'm reading too much because it's all insanely scary. Surgeon already knows it'll be mastectomy on the tumour side for sure. I happen to read the pain thread on phantom breast pain (like missing a limb), I was going to not have reconstruction -- but now I think I will, not for aesthetics, but for possibly dealing with phantom pain.

  • anamerty
    anamerty Member Posts: 195
    edited December 2015

    newday I had a bmx cancer was in the right breast this time first time left side I just had a lumpectomy glad I had both sides removed as they found some dcis in the left. I have never had phantom pain I how however had my nipples shrivel when my bra is off and I don't have any nipples lol. I had no time to arrange for recon when I was dx they wanted them off asap so I had the option of having recon at another time .its been 3 years and I didn't bother I do have problems with the prosthetics but then my 3 daughters had bmx and recon and have had lots of problems so 6 of 1 / half dozen of another .but I have heard gals saying that having one side mx and either recon or not ,they never seem to match up

  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited December 2015

    NewDay, it is good you have to think about the surgery down the road. It will give you time to be informed about the choices. But the one thing for sure with reconstruction is that unless you choose and immediate reconstruction at the same time as the mastectomy, it can me a many year with for a plastic surgeon. I had mine done same time as mx, with a tissue expander and I also had an augment on the non BC side as otherwise that side would have been pretty different~~3 kids, breastfed etc. I would not say that I love the implant but I am happy I chose that route.

    But honestly, you have lots of time as I said above and the main thing right now is to go one step at a time.

    As Kathy says, they will order what they think is needed in your plan for scans etc. I did not ask for anything~~it was just done.

    Off to the mindfulness retreat tomorrow and it will certainly be interesting to be silent as well as no reading, writing or devices allowed from after dinner Wed. night to Friday AM. Hmmm! Wren, I get what you said and sorry I won't see you there but will let everyone know how it goes.

  • Allyp71
    Allyp71 Member Posts: 25
    edited December 2015

    Welcome Newday and I'm sorry you've had to join this club. The ladies here are so wonderful with their advise and sharing their experiences.

    I am thinking of asking FVCC to transfer my file to the Vancouver clinic. I wonder if there is a MO that you can recommend at the Vancouver clinic? I just found out that that my MO is no longer at FVCC and to be truthful, I never felt a rapport with him or the RO and I have heard great things about the Vancouver clinic.

    If any one can recommend a BC MO there it would be greatly appreciated.

    Happy Holidays and I am really hoping that I can make it to the event on Jan 9th and meet everyone.

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited December 2015

    Allyp, i have heard good things about Dr. Simmons and intend to ask for her if i need to go back. I had Dr. Chia and wasn't crazy about him. A couple of my friends dropped him quick and another liked him. He doesn't engage but will answer clinical questions. He is not interested in integrative health.

    Marianelizabeth, i look forward to hearing about your experience at the retreat

  • BeachLife
    BeachLife Member Posts: 54
    edited December 2015

    DeltaLady: Sorry it took me a while to get to this task of looking for the source of the "Cancer Personality" article. Thanks to you I got another chance to read it and find lots of it being so true in my case! Worth reading

    http://nurseforhealth.com/treatment-options/2011/6...

  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited December 2015

    My MO is Dr. Shenkier at the Vancouver BCAA and I do like her.

  • Allyp71
    Allyp71 Member Posts: 25
    edited December 2015

    I asked FVCC to transfer my file to the Vancouver clinic today. I didn't indicate which doctor so crossing my fingers that I get a good MO.

    Thanks for the recommendations.

  • Wendy3
    Wendy3 Member Posts: 1,012
    edited December 2015

    Allyp71 I would like to give you Dr. Simmons name she is wonderful and takes her time with each patient. Very upbeat and positive. She is my second MO the first was Dr. Chia horrible experience. Very obviously he is in this job solely for his personal financial gain. Good luck the y are both at BCCA.

  • Allyp71
    Allyp71 Member Posts: 25
    edited December 2015

    Thanks Wendy I will call and ask for her specifically.

  • Allyp71
    Allyp71 Member Posts: 25
    edited December 2015

    When I spoke to the admin, she said that my file was going to be transferred to a Dr. Kumar at FVCC. I didn't want to take a chance of this new doctor and looks like he/she has only been there since last summer. I called left a message for the secretary to request that my file be transferred to Dr. Simmons. Thanks again!

  • Wendy3
    Wendy3 Member Posts: 1,012
    edited December 2015

    Allyp71 your very welcome I hope they don't give you any run around I had to be referred from my surgeon whom I never used. It was pretty stressful at the time, I hope it goes smoother for you.😊

  • Carrie61
    Carrie61 Member Posts: 56
    edited December 2015

    New day...I would definitely ask for a PET or an MRI so you know exactly where you stand. i thought I was stage 3 and my treatment was based on that, had a ct scan, bone scan and chest X-ray which didn't show anything, but now it turns out that I had bone mets all along, after I paid for a private MRI. Things would have been done a lot different apparently...no surgery, chemo or radiation. To think I did all of that for nothing makes me a bit ticked off.

    Better to know everything upfront IMHO.

    All the best to you...

    Carrie

  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited December 2015

    Allyp, I would also keep Dr. Shenkier in mind as a backup. Also we all need to keep open minds on MO's as each of us is so individual that one doctor may work for one but not for another.

  • marianelizabeth
    marianelizabeth Member Posts: 1,735
    edited December 2015

    Carrie, your history reads so much like mine. I would be ticked off too. How long after did you pay for the MRI that showed the mets?

    I saw my MO yesterday ~~actually one of the GP's who I really like, Dr. Cochizza and then she talked to Dr. Shenkier who I saw briefly. Bone scan ordered and also a referral to a bone specialist as bone density test shows increased osteopenia. Honestly have not been worrying and in fact feel a bit like it is overboard but Carrie your post makes me feel like maybe it is a good idea. Bone scan Dec. 18

  • NewDay123
    NewDay123 Member Posts: 71
    edited March 2021

    Thanks everyone!!

    It's a strange thing. The GP, surgeon, all checked the collarbone. They seem to assume that if it spreads, it'll go there next and there was no point in checking any where else. I suppose other than an MRI, it's a matter of us reporting any additional lumps or new sore spots?

    Carrie61, did you have any symptoms from the bone mets? I looked at the MRI clinics... what kind of scan do you order? Is it a full body MRI?

    Updated: No doctor has said anything to me about a bone scan or CT scan.

  • Carrie61
    Carrie61 Member Posts: 56
    edited December 2015

    I had a full body MRI at a place on Broadway. iT was done right after my treatment was finished due to the fact that my naturopath oncologist was checking my tumour markers that were slowly rising. $2500 later and it found 4 bone lesions which were consistent to bone metastasis. i did have some back pain, but I had it for years and was getting treated by a chiropracter. In hind sight this could have been from the bone mets.

    i would request a PET/CT scan, since MRI doesn't show actual cancer activity, and request is not the right word, I would demand.

    Marian, hope your bone scan shows nothing, but on the other hand mine showed nothing either😟.

    New day: don't be afraid to throw your weight around, it's your life! II have had too many "mistakes" happen because I wasn't educated and didn't want to bother anyone.

    Tomorrow I found out the results from my bronchoscopy 😁. Hoping and praying that all is clear.



  • Wendy3
    Wendy3 Member Posts: 1,012
    edited December 2015

    Carrie it always shocks me how many of us have been badly treated or misdiagnosed by our medical system. I had to fight to get scans done and it's been six months since my last one. Now the fight starts again. Sometimes I think they are trying to save on resources because hey your stage four...let's use this for some folks that we can actually help. I may be wrong and I sure hope so but Marian demand it loud and clear.

  • DeltaLady
    DeltaLady Member Posts: 23
    edited December 2015

    Thanks BeachLife. Saw the psychiatrist on Tuesday and she says I may have caregiver burnout and borderline depression. I think I'm entitled to those! I will read the articel.

    DL

  • BeachLife
    BeachLife Member Posts: 54
    edited December 2015

    Carrie61: I am sorry to hear about your story. When we are dealing with BC, we expect to be heard, cared about and communicated about our options in a timely fashion, but this does not happen sometimes, and it means added stress and possibly different outcomes. Short of resources is understandable, but indifference in attitude is hurtful. One comment on my breast ultrasound reads something like: refused mammo (due to dense breast), u/s is not for screening, the patient should pay by herself. My GP would not order any test, even said there is noscientific proof that Vitamin D would help. Do you mind if I ask you which naturopath oncologist you see, and if you like him/her? You can PM me if you prefer.

    DeltaLady: take care of yourself, do the things that make you happy, no matter how small they are to others.

  • NewDay123
    NewDay123 Member Posts: 71
    edited March 2021

    Thanks Carrie61 for sharing. I am sorry to hear about what happened. I'll see what I can do to act on my own behalf.


  • Carrie61
    Carrie61 Member Posts: 56
    edited December 2015

    I see Dr. Parmar from Fort Langley integrated Health, and I do recommend him. However not so sure any of the treatments I have done have helped. I do Vitamin c infusions, mistletoe toe injections, some localized hyperthermal treatments, and lots of bloodwork to make sure my levels of vit d, calcium etc. or on target. He was the one who ordered tumour marker tests and advised me to have the MRI. I do value his opinion, and it's good to know I am doing my utmost.

    Today I found out that I have lymphangitic carcinomastesis, which is causing my shortness of breath. Now I have to decide if I want to do the chemo route again😖.

    So as I said before, it's worth it to be proactive..


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