Winter 2015-16 RADS

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  • PattyMeg
    PattyMeg Member Posts: 56
    edited December 2015

    Peabrain, at least you have seven more nights to get it right. Christmas is a one shot deal. haha.

  • octogirl
    octogirl Member Posts: 2,804
    edited December 2015

    Had the sim today. It went reasonably well. RO is going to run the computer sim and models by the Stanford board (he is affiliate faculty) to make his final recommendation for three or six weeks (he knows i want the shorter version if possible)..I will go with his rec. First treatment Monday either way...

    Octogirl

  • keepwalking
    keepwalking Member Posts: 147
    edited December 2015

    Octogirl - Congratulations on starting Monday! Wishing the best for you as far as 3 or 6 weeks!

  • AmyQ
    AmyQ Member Posts: 2,182
    edited December 2015

    Finished 10 of 10 yesterday. They have wiped me out, physically but fortunately I am able to nap whenever I need to. Never felt a skin burn or irritation along my spine but I do have heart burn which is making eating and drinking difficult.

    I hope everyone else has an easy time with rads.

    Amy

  • StefLove
    StefLove Member Posts: 322
    edited December 2015

    3 down, 28 more to go! slathering on the lotion right after treatment and at night. Don't have time to reply to everyone but hope everyone is doing well!

  • Creativevintage
    Creativevintage Member Posts: 76
    edited December 2015

    My fatigue finally lifted...I really think it was more emotional than physical, but my RO said that it could come and go in waves and that towards the end of my treatments it could hit me harder. She is such a sweetheart. She is leaving on maternity leave and I know the physician who will be covering for her, but she told me to just email her while she is out if I have any questions or issues. I found out today I am receiving treatments as follows:

    25 whole breast, 24 axillary nodes, 25 Intramammary nodes ( my tumor was lower inner quadrant), 25 supraclavicular fossa, 5 tumor bed boosts for a total of 30 treatments.

    Since I am feeling so well today, I hope it lasts a bit. She did tell me not to overdo it and keep putting aloe on the entire treatment area at least twice a day.


  • keepwalking
    keepwalking Member Posts: 147
    edited December 2015

    AmyQ - Congratulations on finishing! I hope your energy comes back soon and your heartburn goes away - that is no fun!

    CreativeVintage - Glad you are feeling well today - I agree, don't overdo when you feel good!

    I hope I find out in the morning when I start rads!

    HUGS to all

  • HappyHammer
    HappyHammer Member Posts: 1,247
    edited December 2015

    Soooo, started rads yesterday. 2 down 28 to go.

    2 questions that I am hoping you gals can help answer.

    1. -If you are or did use aloe vera gel- where did you find it? They gave me a list at the RO and it says the aloe vera should be 97% aloe vera. Can't seem to find anything at CVS or Walgreens that indicates 97% or higher.

    2. Have any of you had stomach issues as a result of rads? Asking since I've had an upset stomach after both sessions.. Of course, it cold be nerves as that whole rad things freaks me out and I have been white knuckled both times.

    Thanks in advance for any advice.

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited December 2015

    1) I use Fruit of the Earth 100% Aloe gel--no dyes, perfumes, or scent. My cancer center’s pharmacy had it. But it’s also available on Amazon.

    2) I had mild nausea after the first 5 treatments, but that day I had forgotten to eat or drink anything from breakfast till 6 pm (insanely busy day). Once I addressed the dehydration and hypoglycemia, the nausea never returned. Of course, my radiation field didn’t include the stomach, throat or esophagus.

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Member Posts: 3,039
    edited December 2015

    HappyHammer: I'm sure others will chime in....but I remember a resounding YES from several women on the Fall Rads thread. Several possibilities came up--getting them in the prone position, inclusion of your throat in the field--though I'd guess (having been a white-knuckler myself) that treatment jitters are likely at the heart of yours.

    Staying hydrated did help me a fair bit, though.

  • HappyHammer
    HappyHammer Member Posts: 1,247
    edited December 2015

    ChiSandy and QMC: thanks! My husband says maybe try a 1/4 or 1/2 of an Ativan tomorrow and see if it's better. (He reminded me that I hate those dam_ machines and having to show everyone in 10 counties my naked breast.) I told him that seemed a bit drastic and that there are 28 more treatments...he was like, "Well, if it helps, you will need 28 more partial tablets." Haha...he has been wonderful throughout all of this and for that I will be forever grateful...feelin' the love!

    I'm headed over to Amazon site right now to check out that aloe.

  • zinny
    zinny Member Posts: 281
    edited December 2015

    Hi folks - dropping in from the fall group on my last day of rads - I have had bilateral lumpectomies and had right sided radiation to axillary, cervical and thoracic lymph nodes, as well as right breast. Wanted to show you how things look for me at the end of treatment. The picture is a little forgiving, in real life, it is a little more red ( especially after a hot flash or a good laugh or a moment of child induced frustration). Wishing you all well!


    Oh, btw, My shoulder looks lightly sunburned as well.


    "Wooohooo. Done rads!! Bit anticlimactic, really.

    I have been lucky to have the skin sparing approach as I still have a BMX and recon to go, and other than a bit of itch, my skin is holding up well. My last three treatments were boosts, so the most irritated bits are now 5 days since treatment, and if things max out at day 10, I hope things will be ok. Hope this is helpful to the newbies, to see some of the milder outcomes."

    image

  • zinny
    zinny Member Posts: 281
    edited December 2015

    My centre says this - Dove soap only, nothing scented or perfumed. I used Aveeno lotion in the pump bottle twice a day. My skin was way better the days I went to rads with clean unmoisturized skin, IMHO, so I tended to wait to slather until after or take a late shower...

  • lindab142
    lindab142 Member Posts: 105
    edited December 2015

    Jumping over from Fall Rads, I have my sim on Dec. 15 for 16 days. RO nurse will talk about lotions then, but I'd like to know ASAP to prevent burning.

    What kind of exercises fight off fatique.

    Congrats Molly and Zinny on finishing.

    Linda

  • Girl53
    Girl53 Member Posts: 225
    edited December 2015

    Looking forward to reading through this thread. Just came from first appointment with RO today and will likely start the last week of December or first week of January, if no chemo needed first (waiting for Oncotype results). She said treatment course 19 days....not six weeks. Also, it sounds like prep appointment not nearly as uncomfortable, scary, and lonely as I have read about. She said CT scan, some small tatoos...and that's about it. Thanks to all...so good to have friends in this process!

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited December 2015

    Linda, you can’t truly “prevent” burning, nor should you: radiation is supposed to destroy some tissue (including, hopefully, any remaining tumor cells) and anything you do to prevent a sun or thermal burn will also prevent the intended dose of radiation from doing its job and reaching its target. Radiation burns are different from sun or thermal burns--they manifest from the inside toward the skin, instead of on the skin and then reaching down through the dermal layers. This is why my center insisted that if I use creams or lotions on the day of treatment, I leave at least 4 hrs. between applying them and the session.

    The reason for using skin-conditioners immediately after each treatment and again later in the day (and several times on off-days) is to make the outer layers of skin more resistant to damage manifesting below the surface, as well as to soothe any surface damage that may occur. That’s why during treatment, on the weekdays I applied aloe at night and showered it off in the morning so there’d be no residue on my skin while being irradiated. On weekends, I showered when it was most convenient (sometimes at bedtime). On that breast & armpit I used only Basis Unscented soap (Dove Unscented for Sensitive Skin is also good, as is Simple, Pears unscented glycerine, and plain unmedicated Neutrogena). I was out of the Dove Unscented I used to carry with me when traveling to large conferences where I’d be in close proximity (elevators, crowded corridors) to attendees with multiple chemical sensitivities (one poor soul walks around in a gas-mask-style respirator). On my breast, I used only my hands to lather & apply the soap. On the rest of my body, I continued to use my usual L’Occitaine Citrus Verbena shower gel (a pint has lasted me 3 yrs) on a nylon scrubby puff.

  • Peabrain
    Peabrain Member Posts: 268
    edited December 2015

    @zinny - thanks so much for the photo! It's good to see a variety of reactions and know that it's possible that we won't all bubble up

  • Bliss58
    Bliss58 Member Posts: 1,154
    edited December 2015

    Hi all. Met with the RO again yesterday and had my sim. I expected a late December start, but they've got me set up to start next Wednesday, Dec. 16 for 10 treatments to my spine and hip. So yeah, finally got a date and ready to go. Gotta check out the aloe gel on Amazon. Thanks everyone for sharing.


  • Cardinal
    Cardinal Member Posts: 24
    edited December 2015

    good morning folks - a drop by to report that my sim was very straightforward 2 days ago (techs were excellent!) and it looks like my start up will be Immediately in the new year for 4 weeks. After several organizational glitches at the treatment centre, I'm trying mightily to quell my frustration on having to wait until Jan 8 for my MO consult - (miss impatient has learned patience already!) just yearn to have all the info before treatment starts; it's all a test I tell myself 🌞Hope I haven't offended anyone with my early morning vent!

    A big thank you to Zinny for posting the pic and congrats on reaching rads completion!

    Recommended cream from RO to apply 2x/day was Glaxal - any knowledge of that here?

    Happy Wednesday! Deb

  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,773
    edited December 2015

    In my experience with nausea, I felt much better if I ate a light snack before rads because mine was late in the day and stayed well hydrated. My RO said we should get about 60 grams of protein per day. Another key for me was the willingness of my RO and team to switch up the treatment schedule to accomodate my very red, tender skin when it started to sting when I put lotion on. This was about 5 weeks into treatment. RO had the team change to boosts for 5 days to let the axilla and under FOOB area rest. Then I had 4 days off for Thanks giving. After boosts she checked me again and instructed the team to skip the last two bolus treatments due to my very red skin. By the time I finished treatment this past Monday I was much better, nearly everything peeled and only a couple areas are still tender. My RO also prescribed EMLA cream for me during the days I had pain. Between that and my tube of lidocain and my Miaderm with lidocain I purchased on Amazon I got through pretty well. I was unable to wear anything but a lightweight tank top the final two weeks. Even the loosest of bras rubbed on my skin in the wrong places. Just hang in there and know that this is doable and to communicate with your team!

  • shannondunlop
    shannondunlop Member Posts: 12
    edited December 2015

    Hello!  Please add me to your list.  I started radiation today - 12/9/2015.  Happy

  • PattyMeg
    PattyMeg Member Posts: 56
    edited December 2015

    Had my CT today. Sim is next Thursday. Hope everyone is doing well with their treatments.

  • sailorgirl15
    sailorgirl15 Member Posts: 114
    edited December 2015

    Hello! Please add me to your group. I finish chemo (two more to go!) and have my sim and scan Jan 4th. Will start soon after that. Here's to a better 2016 for all of us!

  • Jabe
    Jabe Member Posts: 185
    edited December 2015

    hi all! I started week 2 of rads today. It's been easy but am feeling a bit burnt tonight--nothing horrible--just a bit of stinging. RO said I shouldn't have burns or blisters for another two weeks or so. Hopefully this is temporary but it's manageable. I have very sensitive skin so we shall see.Just reapplied alo.

  • OneLuve
    OneLuve Member Posts: 11
    edited December 2015

    Starting rads January 2016. Date and type unknown.

    Right now DCIS, Stage 0, Grade 2, Er+ and Pr+, Bsgi/Mbi shows a missed lump on stereotactic biopsy and clip so course of treatment, pathology etc and type could change. Right now lumpectomy, sentinel node biopsy, wire, radiation x6 weeks everyday M-F, reconstruction at same time lift and reduction both breasts.

  • lindab142
    lindab142 Member Posts: 105
    edited December 2015

    ChiSandy, thanks so much for all the education on radiation. I was a girl scout, can you tell? Trying to be prepared. I meet with rad nurse next week about lotions and instructions.

    Please add me to the list for radiation, my sim is 12/15 and I start 12/16 for 3 weeks.

    Sailorgirl - here here - I'll drink to the better 2016.

    Tired, cleaning up computer a bit and then going to bed.

    Linda


  • keepwalking
    keepwalking Member Posts: 147
    edited December 2015

    Welcome to all the new people! Hoping everyone's experience with rads is as good as can be!

    I am scheduled to meet with the RO on Dec 23. I am unsure whether this is just with him/her, or will also be CT/planning session. I am inclined to think that it is the former since they only asked for an authorization for a doctor visit. So I am still up in the air as to when rads will actually start.

    In his written summary, my MO suggested a period of anywhere between 4 - 6 weeks, However, verbally he told us 4 weeks - but said it is up to the RO to make that decision.

    I saw the nurse coordinator before my appointment yesterday. She said that the staff at the radiation facility (at another hospital in Jerusalem - the only facility for rads in this region) is adamant that patients DO NOT use any creams or ointments whatsoever! I asked if that was just before treatment, and she said no, NOT AT ALL! They are of the opinion that it hinders the absorption of the radiation even if used between treatments. However, she said that most of the patients do it anyway, they just don't tell the staff at the center :)

    So, I am wondering what is best to do. I'll post that question on the Fall Rads group and see if anyone has actually heard of someone doing this without creams.

  • mdoc524
    mdoc524 Member Posts: 336
    edited December 2015

    Welcome Welcome lindab142, Girl53, Shannondunlop, sailorgirl15 & OneLuve - sorry you have to be here but glad you found us! Shannondunlop - hope your 1st treatment went well - how many will you be having?

    Peabrain - love allrecipes.com - use it often

    PattyMeg - great for you trying to get all prepared .. I agree with "nesting" and wanting all done .. I am pretty much confined to home as I finish chemo and trying to make sure all kids presents (still believe in Santa) are ready - don't want to be wrapping on Christmas Eve .. my boys are 9 and I know this could be the last year they believe and trying to make it special .. see pics

    mfsanders - Congrats on getting started and thanks for sharing re: Gold Bond powder - hope your skin holds out. Did not think hair loss occurs with Rads ..

    ChiSandy - thanks so much always for hanging with us and your detailed info on your experience...

    Octogirl - Great news you are ready to start on Monday - good luck

    AmyQ - WooHoo - congrats on finishing - glad you did not have skin issues and hope your heartburn goes away soon - not fun! Did not realize Rads can cause that ??

    Creativevintage - great to hear you got a break from the fatigue - hope it continues for you

    HappyHammer - Congrats on starting Monday - hope your stomach settles down - I take a full Ativan an hour before every chemo.. I got Fruit of the Earth Aloe on Amazon.

    Zinny - thanks so so much for popping in and sharing your pictures and experience.. Good Luck with surgery .. BMX not as bad as I thought it would be - 1st day or two rough and then OK ..

    BJSMiller - Great news you have a start date for the 10 Spine/Hip blasts - hugs to you!!

    Cardinal - I think the hardest part is waiting for appointments or info .. hang in there

    Molly50 - so sorry you had such skin issues and your RO team sounds so great. Thanks for sharing your experience!

    sailorgirl - good luck finishing chemo - looks like we are very similar - I have 4 Taxol's left #9 tomorrow ..

    Jabe - - Good luck with Week #2 - hoping your skin holds out for you

    Keepwalking - I hope you find some answers - amazing at the difference in recommendations at using creams/aloe or not .. keep us posted!

    Sharing some Christmas Spirit Pics .. our Elf apparently likes M&M's and my boys got the biggest kick out of this image

    Have a great day and hugs to those suffering from se's

    Mary

  • StefLove
    StefLove Member Posts: 322
    edited December 2015

    mdoc, cute elf! I don't have children so most of the time I think this elf thing is CRAZY but I love seeing what my friends come up with! My favorite so far is the picture I see being shared all over social media... Elsa freezes the elf in a block of ice. :)

    5 sessions down, 26 to go!

  • AmyQ
    AmyQ Member Posts: 2,182
    edited December 2015

    Mdoc,

    Apparently rads in the thoracic area hit the esophagus and cause irritation which is what mimics heartburn. I think I may have crossed the threshold of recovery. My doc prescribed a low dose of dexamethasone to increase my energy, improve my appetite and that combined with Magic Mouthwash before eating or drinking has helped immensely. I think 10 rounds of radiation knocked me off my feet more than 5 rounds of Taxotere and Cytoxen.

    Good luck to all you ladies undergoing radiation in whatever part of your body. It's not easy but definitely worth it if it keeps cancer at bay and heals.

    Amy

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