Taking a break from Tamoxifen
So....I'm taking an unofficial break from tamoxifen. I need to know after almost one year of taking it what is a SE and what is just "me". After 4 wks I can sit without my tailbone hurting and I have energy...I know I have to goback on it...for another 9 yrs. This is just a sucky place to be. Anyone else ever taken a break? I'm thinking I will go back on it at Christmas...my DD is freaking that I won't go back on it...but I will. I'm just sad about it.
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I started a year late. By then I knew what was and wasn't a SE. Just came off Femara after seven months and went back on Tamoxifen. For me it is easier and my main SE is HFs.
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I feel your pain. I'm six months on and I'm ready to quit. No idea if it's tamoxifen or in my head or what. I feel like I need a break so I can distinguish the difference.
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Still on my "break" and feeling good. DH and DD thinks it's time to go back on it. I don't know what to do...I feel like I'm playing with fire...
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JJ, why do you say you have to be on for 10 years? I have similiar stats (also diagnosed just shy of age 44) as you and my onc is only recommending 5 years.
I think it would be harder to wrap my head around if I knew I had to take it for that long.
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From the start, I was very ambivalent about taking tamoxifen, constantly worried about long term damage to my body and accelerating the aging process. I was also going through perimenopause and didn't really know what effects were from that and which were from the tamoxifen. I had to know, so I did experiment to try to figure it out. About 7 months into taking it, I took a self mandated 6 week break from it, mainly because of sexual side effects. I had developed a numbness down below, a lack of response and sensation, which really was upsetting me. This effect did let up by the time I restarted the tamoxifen, as did some of my joint pains, but then I developed new joint pains in other areas. I eventually ended up quitting the tamoxifen altogether after 3 years. Tried Aromasin, then quit after 2 months, because I really did not want to take an AI and wasn't willing to put up with increased aches and pains, as well as being drier all over. That was almost 3 years ago. I do feel like my sleep did improve somewhat, my immunity is better (frequent colds and eye infections while on tamoxifen, now better). My oncologist had only recommended 5 years of medication. I was 47 at diagnosis, now 55, and I occasionally worry about cancer coming back, but I am doing a lot of prevention by keeping up with my exercise routine for the past 8 years and having improved my diet and some things in my environment.
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SusansGarden, new guidelines say to take it for 10 years. I am sorry that you are having such difficulty with the Tamoxifen. I have taken up yoga, that has helped quite a bit with the aches and pains.
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Sjacobs146, I understand that new guidelines say 10 years for SOME people, but not for all as a blanket standard of care. Both the JJ and I are Stage 1a with no nodes so I was curious that her doctor recommended 10 as mine didn't think it was necessary for me in my situation. I was wondering if there were other factors in her pathology/case/history that had JJ's doctor feel she needed 10?
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SusansGarden, at the time of my initial diagnosis, I too was Stage 1A, no nodes, and a genotype score of 15. Aside from my mastectomy, the only course of treatment my onc recommended was 10 years of Tamoxifen. He stated that 10 years is the recommended standard of care for my diagnosis.
I was diagnosed with a brain met this past February and had a craniotomy to remove it. I did have GammaKnife radiation to the surgical bed, but aside from that, Tamoxifen continues to be my only treatment. My onc felt that the brain met was probably there at diagnosis, as it's pathology was identical to my original tumor. Since I didn't have a progression on Tamoxifen, he has continued to keep me on it and, if I can manage the side effects, he will do so for at least the next 10 years.
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Sorry to hear about your metastasis, Goodie16. Glad treatment seems to be working for you now.
. I'm curious why your MO wouldn't switch you to an AI since I keep hearing that it is superior to Tamoxifen?
How did they discover your brain met? I'm assuming you would not have had regular scans at your stage?
I'll have to ask my onc if his advice on 10 years for me has changed since my last visit almost a year ago. I honestly don't think I would continue anyway. I personally feel okay taking the statistical risk. BC is such a crap shoot. I'd rather not have 10 years of tamoxifen toxicity build up for what I feel is a statistically small chance I will metastasize. I know I'm probably jinxing myself right now. :P
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SusansGarden, I'm on Tamoxifen because I'm pre-menopausal. AI's are for post-menopausal women.
My brain met was discovered when my onc requested a brain MRI due to severe headaches. I've always been a headache-prone person, but they had gotten progressively worse. I initially blamed that on the Tamoxifen. My onc wanted to be sure there was nothing else going on and ordered the brain MRI. I had a PET scan and bone scan prior to my mastectomy as part of initial staging work-up. It was only 10 months from my initial stage 1 diagnosis until the discovery of met, but it most likely had been there since the beginning. Since the discovery of the met and it's removal, I now get PETs and brain MRIs every 3 months.
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Thanks for explaining Goodie16.
They didn't do any scans on me prior to my mastectomy (nor after). Interesting how each place can be different.
Regarding the tamoxifen, I understand you can only be pre meno to take it, I am surprised they didn't suggest ovary suppression or removal. Not that it would be better..just that it seems like that's what most MO's would do based on people's experiences they have shared here. Again, interesting..but also glad that care is individualized - which it should be.
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I have no idea why he recommended 10 yrs. I think when I was first diagnosed I wanted to throw every type of weapon and protection I could at it without being informed of how it would affect me. The tailbone pain I get is crippling....I will end up buying a donut cushion as sitting at my desk all day is unreal. I didn't know about that SE...I just blamed myself for being out of shape..
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