DIEP 2015
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hi Trvlr -- I go for measuring and scan mid Dec and start early January. I requested the delay -- partly as I'm on Letrozole so it's busy doing its job in the meantime, and work issues I really needed to get back to sort out, as well as concerned re wanting noob as recovered as possible to minimize damage -- worried re possibility of lymphedema mostly and hardening/shrinkage of tissues too... I noticed you post on rads, and will join them in Dec. I have been wondering how it has gone for you, saw the dang itchy:(..... , so would love to hear more re how noob itself seems to be handling it. There don't seem to be many of us diep-ers who do rads after surgery.
Cassylou: Re getting back to vertical and straight -- it will come!!!! I noticed huge improvements daily, then weekly.....I concur with the others that building up a regular and frequent walking routine is really helpful, as is stretching out the chest by looking sort of up and pulling shoulder blades together as best you can..... as if showing off a huge diamond necklace!! PS I was in Sydney years ago and climbed the bridge!
Sending good healing vibes to everyone.
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Thanks Cass! You are truly an angel
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Phoebe: Noob seems ok. It is hard to tell. I was just adjusting to having them when I started rads. It is bright red and probably a tad swollen but I can't really see it. The scars are much redder than the other side but RO says that will go away after treatment is done. I am done Wed so I can report back a couple of weeks after that if you remind me.
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Hi ladies...my stage 2 is right around the corner and I'm wondering what kind of recovery I can expect? Stage one was tough recovery but now I'm almost 2 months out and am completely back to normal. My abdomen is still tender from time to time. My stage 2 is Dec 28 so I will be almost 3 mo out when it happens.
Will I be able to walk around-walk straight up in public afterwards? I could not walk for any length for about 2 weeks after stage one. How long before I can purchase a real bra? I haven't purchased a good bra just knowing there would be more "sculpting".
Can't imagine looking better than I do now. These last 3 years were a nightmare and I feel so blessed to find out about the Diep procedure. I finally feel normal again.
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TM, How exciting! I am so looking forward to stage two, and hope to talk my PS into doing it before the end of the year. From what I've heard/read it is a cake walk compared to stage one. I've read that recovery is about one week.... But you have to wear a binder nonstop for quite some time... To minimize fluid buildup from the donor site.
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Morning ladies - Just checking in - so grateful for all the posts - helps to keep me sane - knowing that I am not alone in this journey!! Thank you and Blessings to you all for easy healing.... I'm about 3 days out from my DIEP surgery, 12/3, Doc said eat lots of proteins and drink lots of water....Any other suggestions?, as I try to take my mind off of this surgery guess I'm a little anxious - so many things to do!! Have my pillows, pjs, magazines, music all ready to go - just want to get past this and start on my new normal....so many emotions - last day at work - trying to keep it all in check...Will probably check back in after I get home from the hospital....Take Care....
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Hey, I just had stage 2 on Nov. 6. I spent a week in a binder, and things were pretty good for another week. Unfortunately, I jumped back into exercising a little too hard and have developed a pretty sore area, so I'm resting with additional Tylenol (occasionally percocet) for pain. If you don't run a 10k less than three weeks after surgery, you may not have this problem. :-/
So yes, it was not nearly as hard as the initial surgery. No issues with standing upright at all. (I had lipo on my hips at the end if my scar, but nothing else in the abdominal area was messed with.) I could walk comfortably a couple of days after, no problem.
I'm still holding off on buying a real bra. Underwires are super uncomfortable, and I'm still swollen. I'm hoping that I'll be able to shop for a real bra in a couple of weeks.
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DaBoys- Congrats! The hard part will be over soon..then just the mending. Take it easy. I'm not sure how you're doing digestively...but I had horrible constipation for almost a month. My BS had recommended taking a prenatal vitamin for a month and I didn't realize that was contributing to the problem with all the iron! I found that a good probiotic (I used Culturelle, which was recommended by my pharmacist) was the only thing that worked for me to get everything going smoothly.
Cloudy... Thanks so much for the update! ...see my PS tomorrow....so I will see if she can squeeze me in a bit early for stage 2...before the end of the year and my max-out-of-pocket resets! Hoping and praying!
Wishing you all the best! Prayers for quick and easy recoveries.
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Daboys
Prayers and lots of love as you prepare for surgery on the 3rd. It sounds like you have everything ready to go. Please update when your able. I have my surgery on the 9th so just a few days after you.
I'm so thankful for everyone on here. The knowledge and advice is so helpful. Hard to believe the end is in site for me, it's been a long year. God is good.
Hugs ladies,
G
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I post this over and over again an I wish there was some way I could do it so everyone saw it BEFORE they get constipated but Italychick turned me on to magnesium for constipation and after having lifelong problems and even taking prescription meds, I never get constipated anymore. I take 250 mg but if I know I am having stressful day, I take 500 mg. I wish doctors and hospitals would tell people about this. All the laxatives, stool softeners, and prune juice in the world won't solve the problem like magnesium. It also stabilizes blood sugar and helps with hot flashes.
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SA8PG
Good luck to you too! Healing Prayers for you as well as we walk this journey- just want it done! Post when you are able
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Trvler
What kind of magnesium do you take? I know there are different types and brands. That's a great suggestion. Did you take it right up to surgery day and then resume after you got home?
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Actually, I didn't start it until after my surgery because I didn't think I needed it. I was taking a prescription med called Linzess but I was taking magnesium after surgery and realized I no longer needed the prescription. It's tricky around surgery because in my case (and I think in many others) you go early in the am for pre op and early for surgery so you go on already constipated. It took a few days and lots of stuff (prune juice, Linzess, stool softeners) to get unplugged after surgery. But once I started taking the magnesium, I stopped everything else.
I think it is magnesium oxide but it just says magnesium on the label. I will check. I know there are two kinds.
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Well gals! I saw my PS and she has agreed to schedule my revision Stage 2 end of this month! woot! She says one week off work. Two weeks in the binder....and another two weeks just during the day. The scheduler is going to call me back with a date. :-)
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Trvler--could you let us know the milligrams or dosage that you take daily of magnesium? I'd like to try its blood sugar balancing effects. Thanks.
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Hi All,
Been away for a few days.
DaBoys and SA8 best wishes to you both for your upcoming surgeries. I follow right behind you on the 16th!!
I look forward to hearing how it goes for you. Thank you all for your posts here. It has been so helpful. I've been trying to pick things up, still need a camisole with pockets and I guess some extra pockets. Someone suggested a baby bump pillow, it is body length and longer. I looked at recliners this past weekend and picked one up.
I find I feel ok about it all but have moments of panic where I just try to push it out of my mind... Two more weeks of waiting is going to be tough. Starting to tell more people and trying to get work in order. DaBoys I can only imagine how you must be feeling with your surgery just little over a day away!!!!
Thanks trvler for the magnesium tip. Leesharp congrats on your stage 2 schedule this will all be behind you soon!
Phoebe I've had rads to both sides but prior 4-5 years. Not sure what it would be like post DIEP. Rads were easy for me. Everyone is different though - so hope it goes well for you. Will be interesting to see how rads prior impacts DIEP.
Love the terms. Foobs and noobs.. Are Foobs fried (as in rads) and noobs as in new? Lol lol.
Hugs and prayers for those getting ready and good healing wishes to the rest of you!
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I take 250 mg daily for constipation, sometimes 500. I don't have issues with blood sugar but I have heard it helps with that and I remember years ago a friend of mine had a girlfriend who was Type 1 diabetic and they tried supplements and she was actually off insulin for a while. I think one of them was magnesium. YOu can google it to find out info about that. I haven't researched it. But there were times after my second baby was born that my blood sugar felt like it was plummeting and I could feel it. I would still feel that way occasionally but I don't notice it at all now. That is VERY unscientific obviously.
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daboys-wishing you nothing but good results tomorrow. It's worth every single thing moment of discomfort for the results. It still amazes me that there is surgery like this available. We're so fortunate. Please let us know as soon as you can how you are doing.
Cloudy-thanks for the tips. I remember at my diep post op that my surgeon said that at stage two he was going to take some tissue out on the sides, lift the breasts and do something with my abdominal scar. I just want to make sure that I will be able to move normally after.
Trineg-next week your in NOLA, please keep me posted how your stage two went. I feel like we are especially surgery sisters being that our surgeries are at the same facilities.
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daBoys thinking of you! Here's to a successful surgery, wonderful results and good pain management!! Keep us posted! I went for pre op today, I'll be following in your footsteps soon.
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Thinking of you today, daboys.
Tmgilbert, if you're having both breasts lifted, your recovery may be a little tougher than mine. I only had a uni mx. But I'm hoping it will be a (relatively) easy surgery still.
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Hope everyone is doing well recovering and coping wth the stress of the holidays. I am a little over 6 weeks post stage 1 diep. I went back to the gym at 3 weeks, but basically just went through the motions to get back into a routine. I was cleared with no restrictions this week, so I have been slowly adding back more effort. It feels good to be back in my old routine, but it's depressing that my core is so weak. I am back at 98% of my range of motion. I attribute that to not having any restrictions from surgeons once they removed the diep monitors in the hospital. It was sore in the beginning, but I just pushed through it.
PS had offered to get me squeezed in this month for stage 2, but we decided that we just needed a 'family break' from travelling for illness and hospitals. We are going on a leisure vacation instead. Sure, we'll pay more oop in the new year, but I think it will be for the best. I have 1 spot on my donor incision that is still having trouble closing. It's about 7-8mm long. P.S. said to keep it covered and apply antibacterial until it closes on its own. I also have a small undissolved stitch on the bottom of my new belly button that looks like a little white bump. I had 2 burned spots on the skin just above my new right foob that have finally 'healed' but are still quite red. I had skin sparing, but not nipple sparing. PM did a little preliminary tattoo shading on the circular donated tissue that will someday become my new areolas. The areas seem huge based on how small my natural areola regions used to be.
My new foobs are amazingly similar in size to my natural breasts (small), however, they are much less saggy. I have been able to wear several of my own bras without sizing issues or discomfort. Between the weight I dropped during chemo and the diep procedure, I had to go out and get new jeans. I went down 2 sizes. Since PS still plans on taking fat from my waist, hips, saddlebag area, and inner thigh I decided to only get 1 new pair for now.
I have been able to sleep on my sides again since about 4 1/2 weeks out. It's more comfortable with a pillow to hug and a pillow between my knees. I have a little on and off back strain. I find that if I wear my abdominal binder while 'on my feet' I suffer less strain. I am having a little bloating and swelling at night and after meals.
Well that's where I am at 6 weeks out. I am looking forward to continuing to heal. It is a little scary to consider taking more steps back after stage 2 and then starting get to heal all over again. I have to believe that it will be easier once I have enough time off to build up some strength. Surely I will be stronger than I was after 5+ months of chemo.
Good luck to those of you still facing stage 1. Is it scary and daunting? YES!, but way easier than I ever imagined it could be. When we 'have' to, we can do anything!
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Thinking of you Daboys. Can't wait to hear how you are doing. Xoxo
Dizzpark is your core not as strong because they did something to the muscles? I'm trying to prepare as best I can with having so many little ones at home. Core strength I hadn't worried about. Is this something I should be asking about?
Hugs
G
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hi Trvler, thanks for all your info [here and other threads] and glad your noob is doing ok all things considered. I was away last week seeing PS who said my right side is a tiny bit lower, but she won't have to lift it as rads should make it a bit tighter and higher, and if it shrinks or hardens fat grafting does wonders. Whew. I got my start day for rads - Dec 29. Wooohoo to you for finishing up.
Notagain -- LOL the foob=fried boob !!! I think it means fake boob as in implants, vs new boob being own body tissue, but love yours! Best wishes with your upcoming date, and also to daboys who should be in recovery now. Can't wait to hear how you do. I remain so thrilled and happy with my diep. A bit fuller and younger looking, but so natural.
Looking forward to hearing some more stage 2 info too. I need to wait til 6 months post rads, so fall, but that's ok.
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Dizz!! Your report is very encouraging.. Glad it is gong so well. Back to the gym at three weeks - wow!
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Hi Everyone. Tmgilbert-wish we could be in NOLA at the same time. We could share an ICEE. Bigsister-thinking about you a lot too since we are on the very same day. Phoebe-I went through chest wall radiation ending January 2014. Didn't make me sick like chemo did but it did make me tired and made my shoulders hurt from having to lay there and not move. Make sure to use whatever ointment or cream your doctor recommends to soothe your skin. I had a tissue expander at the time of my rads so our experiences will be different. Now I'm 11 weeks out from phase 1. The noobs are soft and warm and look nice. The incisions have healed nicely. I'm still working on regaining core strength as are some of you. I've had a hard time regaining energy but I think that has a lot to do with complications from previous surgeries. Tummy is still a little tight but has stretched out a whole lot. Phase 1 has been a big success and well worth all you go through. I will keep you informed as best as I can about phase 2. In additional to the usual in phase 2, I'll have a procedure to relieve severe pain from a latissimus dorsi flap done before I knew about NOLA. Hugs to all.
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daboys I hope your surgery went perfect and you are beginning to heal.
SA8PG I had very reduced core strength as well. The muscles may not be cut but you are weaker due to inactivity and stooped posture for a couple of weeks. I was walking 3 miles before surgery and it took several weeks to be able to walk 1 mile again. I am so ready to get working on my core and stamina again.
NotAgain my radiated breast turned out better than my non radiated. It is firmer and doing just great. I healed quickly on that breast. Wish my other one had turned out as well. I had several complications but none of them were related to rads. My problem was bad perforators.
I am scheduled for my final revision (#5) on Dec 17. I will have a little fat removed on the side of my right breast using smart Lipo and bilateral nipples. So excited to be done.
TMGilbert good luck with your stage 2, it will seem like a breeze compared to stage 1. The abdominal scar revision was very easy for me. it just required healing no tightness again.
Dizz so glad everything is going good for you. It is so encouraging to hear the good stories. I know it is motivating for those having to follow you.
Phoebe stage 2 is something to look forward to. I agree with waiting 6 months. I only waited 3 months post rads and wish I had taken more time. I did not have any skin issues but I was much weaker than I realized. Then I had several surgeries and compounded my weakness.
Lessharp I hope you got your surgery date. Keep us up to date.
Hugs ladies.
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I have been reading the posts on this thread, but have never posted myself. I had a BMX 2 years ago with no reconstruction (long story), but now I am looking into options. I really wanted to go the expander/implant route, as I am afraid of a long operation and recovery. At this point I am sick of doctors and the medical system, and I just want to live my live. I was referred to an excellent PS in my area, and she refuses to do delayed reconstruction with expanders due to the 80% failure rate. I did have 33 radiation treatments, and my tissue is most likely damaged. The PS feels I am an excellent candidate for the flap surgery, as she says, I have beautiful belly fat. I am considering it, but I have some questions. I know the surgery lasts 10-12 hours, and my MO is cautioning me about doing any elective procedure that keeps me under that long. He says I could have some memory issues. I already have memory problems with the letrozole, and I don't want it to get worse. Have any of you ladies had memory problems as a result of being under anesthesia that long? Also, what is the recovery like? I know there are drains, but after they are out, how limited is your activity? If I do this in the summer, I would like to sit on the beach after the drains are gone. Is that possible? Would I be able to drive? Can I do light gardening? As you can see, I am not very patient. How do you check for recurrence after you have this procedure? Do you get mammograms? Thank you in advance for answering these questions.
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Dear smrlvr you will be so glad you found this wonderful discussion board. I know I am. If you get a chance to read back into the posts you will find so much about different people's recoveries. Please seriously consider a PS that does only Breast surgery. Not all DIEP takes 11 hours. In NOLA for example DIEP takes about 6 hours because two expert micro surgeons are working on you at the same time. Good luck. Hugs to all.
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Smrlvr: The most important thing in your decision to have the surgery is the doctors you choose. It is really important to have someone who is experienced at this surgery and to do your research first. As an example, I had an appointment with a PS here that was very highly recommended. Someone on here told me to ask what their conversion rate was. I didn't even know what that meant. But I asked and they told me 85%. I got on the Ask the Doctor site, (which I recommend you take a look at) and asked the doctor there if that was ok and if not, what rate WAS acceptable. He said 0 and explained why. I cancelled that appointment and decided to do to NOLA where they specialize in this surgery. That doctor ended up being my second surgeon in NOLA. I am very happy with the results. I can do almost everything I could do before. I am about 3 months out and my abdomen is still hard but I am going to do some physical therapy stuff to it. Still need Stage 2. Please research your doctor thoroughly. Just because they do these doesn't mean they are great at it.
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