Winter 2015-16 RADS

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  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,773
    edited November 2015

    Hi ladies! Pop in and read the Fall rads thread to see how we have fared. I am at 20 of 33 whole breast with chest wall, supraclavicular, axillary and intramammory nodes in the radiation field. I am doing well so far. My axilla is the most red right now. I used calendula cream for two weeks leading up to my treatments and have used aquaphor at bedtime ( it is very messy), Miaderm and Aloe Vera gel ( no alcohol in the ingredients list is important!) and Earths Best Baby Calendula. Since I had a umx with a TE I ended up need PT to get my arm fully above my head and must continue to stretch due to the skin shrinking a bit around the TE. I lotion up at least 3 mostly 4 times per day. I also ended up with a radiation rash which my RO prescribed a steroid cream for. Speak up to your team if you have concerns. My rad tech team is awesome. The main one is very observant and notices skin changes even before I do. Good luck!

  • marijen
    marijen Member Posts: 3,731
    edited November 2015

    Thank you Molly, I'm going to order the Earths Best Baby Calendula. I'm so glad you're doing so well. Are you putting the Aloe on before radiation?

  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,773
    edited November 2015

    Marijen,


    I put the Aloe on as soon as I get home from radiation. My radiation facility does not want you to put anything on 3 hours or less prior to treatment. I do Miaderm twice in the morning, aloe vera at home and aquaphor at night. I sometimes switch the aloe vera with calendula.

  • Jabe
    Jabe Member Posts: 185
    edited November 2015

    hi. I am scheduled for my simulation on Monday and meeting with the nurse and then will get my schedule from there. I plan to work through. Any advice on doing the rads before or after work each day. I thought it would make sense to get it done in the morning but saw a couple folks on the fall board saying at the end of the day is better so you can go straight home. Thoughts

  • marijen
    marijen Member Posts: 3,731
    edited November 2015

    Ok Molly. Thank you. I'm ordering a juicy Aloe plant from Amazon. $15+Shipping. Someone said they started two weeks before. I think that's a good idea.

  • Kimmer33
    Kimmer33 Member Posts: 386
    edited November 2015

    may I join? I am due to start early-mid February.

    I am also planning to work through rads and also wondering what is better, before or after work.

    My protocol will be 16 treatments.

    Thanks!

    Kim

  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,773
    edited November 2015

    I chose end of day so I could go home, lotion up and take my bra off. Glad I did because Monday the exhaustion hit.

  • justmaximom15
    justmaximom15 Member Posts: 264
    edited November 2015

    I was wondering about the timing of appointments as well. I've worked full time through this whole thing and plan to continue that. I don't know the earliest and latest appointments they have but I think the latest of the day would work best for my schedule.

  • mdoc524
    mdoc524 Member Posts: 336
    edited November 2015

    Hello and Welcome biscuits, shopgal2, Steflove, Jabe and Kimmer33 - sorry you have to be here but glad you are joining our group!! I added your info above let me know if any updates ...

    shopgal2 - Yeah a PA Girl - my treatments are at Lehigh Valley Hospital in Allentown - I am from Philly but moved North about 12 years ago.. I am finishing chemo now - 6 more weekly Taxol's left and should start RADs sometime in January as long as no chemo delays!

    queenmomcat - thanks so much for the tips and advise!!

    Molly50 - you too - thanks so much for popping in and sharing what has worked for you. Funny I was going to try and schedule my treatments at mid-day lunch hour but I like the idea now of doing it at end of day and just going home ...

    Have a great day! Hugs if you are in chemo and dealing with crappy se's like me

    Mary

  • courtleboo
    courtleboo Member Posts: 72
    edited November 2015

    justmaximom: I was asked what time frame worked best for me and they tried to work around it. If you don't get a time you like there are always people finishing and you can request their time.

  • gargengirl09
    gargengirl09 Member Posts: 46
    edited November 2015

    Hi,

    Thanks for starting this thread Mdoc! I start Radiation on 11/30. I just finished my final chemo last Friday, 11/13.

    I'm hoping radiation is as easy as they say!

    My oncologist or radiation oncologist never ask re: emotional/psychological well being. Probably a good thing…I'm super tired from the chemo and gained 15 pounds. :-(


  • StefLove
    StefLove Member Posts: 322
    edited November 2015

    mfsanders, there's a mom & pop drug store by my radiation office that sells it but I also found it on walgreens.com. It says that it's not available in stores so I just ordered it online. I was too lazy to drive to the drugstore to get it :( It was about $14 for 4oz at walgreens. It's also on Amazon for about $9 for 4oz

  • Smartinez007
    Smartinez007 Member Posts: 4
    edited November 2015

    Hello breast cancer family. I've been getting information from this site since I was diagnosed in January. I thought it would be fun to join this group to get help or help someone else get through this radiation phase. I had my simulation today and my first tattoos ever. Lol Kind of made me a little emotional. I start Dec. 1st and I am a little behind schedule due to my arm movement range after surgery. Physical Therapy helped a little but it was still a struggle to keep my arm up that high and long today but glad it's over. I'm taking notes on creams and tips and thank each of you so much. If we've come this far we can certainly do RADS. Wishing you all a Happy Thanksgiving.

  • mdoc524
    mdoc524 Member Posts: 336
    edited November 2015

    Welcome Smartinez007 - sorry you are here but glad you found our group.. Hope your arm range continues to get better. Do you know yet how man treatments you will be having??

    Hope everyone has a Happy Thanksgiving!

    Mary

  • Jabe
    Jabe Member Posts: 185
    edited November 2015

    I had my simulation today and start next Wednesday, 12/2 for 28 treatments.

  • Scotland219312
    Scotland219312 Member Posts: 237
    edited November 2015

    Sign me up, Mary! I should finish chemo at the end of December. Tentative plan is sixweeks of rads starting the beginning of February.

  • StefLove
    StefLove Member Posts: 322
    edited November 2015

    just had my simulation today with my 3 itty bitty tattoos. My radiologist as well as some of the nurses all have the tiny tattoos on their hands to show patients what they'd look like. Thought that was a nice touch. Change of schedule again for me though. Next week I go in for x-rays and then on the 7th is when I'm scheduled for my first official radiation, whew!

  • mdoc524
    mdoc524 Member Posts: 336
    edited November 2015

    Welcome Scotland - sorry you have to be here but glad you found us - it looks like we are similar as I am finishing chemo in December - have 6 Taxol's left.. Good Luck!

    Jabe & StefLove -thanks for the updates - Good Luck in 12/2 and 12/7 - let us know how it goes! Hugs to you as you start!

    Gargengirl & mfsanders - I must have been sleeping on the19th sorry I missed you! Welcome Welcome - Good Luck on the 30th and the 2nd! Wow Double Dose in 3 weeks - let us know how you do!

    Happy Thanksgiving to All! Enjoy the Holiday! Hugs to anyone suffering with se's over the holiday! Me - I caught the nasty upper respiratory cold my husband and kids so kindly shared - not fun - hoping this week's chemo not delayed!!

    Mary

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Member Posts: 3,039
    edited November 2015

    (shyly) Another couple of things I found helpful along the way:

    1) If you're at all anxious about the process (and many of us are!), ask to see the machine they'll be using for you, and how they'll position you on the table. In the Fall Rads list, Keys-Plez made a video of how the machine twisted about during a treatment; that helped others on the list, IIRC.

    2) Avoid alcohol in products, definitely, and make a point of reading ingredient lists since the stuff is used in the most surprising places. But don't plotz if you see 'alcohol' in something that's been recommended by your oncologists or on these boards (e.g. Aquaphor has 'lanolin alcohol' on its ingredient list). Checked with chemist F-I-L, who said that the irritant alcohol we're supposed to avoid is ONE of a much larger group of chemicals/ingredients which chemists refer to as alcohols. That said, the lanolin itself can be a potential allergen!

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited November 2015

    I've avoided any sheep products since I learned many years ago that the land where sheep has been raised is now forever contaminated with alzheimer producing prions. no lamb, very little wool, definitely no lanolin

  • Zuwali
    Zuwali Member Posts: 22
    edited November 2015

    Hello all. Hope everyone is having a good Thanksgiving.

    I have a concern about the radiation and want to know if anyone else had these thoughts. I am just now starting to feel human again after my double mastectomy and am also starting my Herceptin infusions every 3 weeks. Those aren't too bad. My oncologist wants me to also start radiation in the next couple of weeks. I never really thought about it much before now, but am really dreading it. I am going to talk to my doctor about putting it off until next spring. I just feel like I need to stop, finish healing and get my strength back. Also facing driving an hour (one way) to get my daily radiation treatments. That by itself makes me tired just thinking about it. Is it a bad thing to put off the radiation?

  • Peabrain
    Peabrain Member Posts: 268
    edited November 2015

    My doctorssaid they'll want to start radiation 2-6 weeks after chemo. For my particular diagnosis, the radiation improves my 5 year survival rate by 10% and reduces recurrence chances by 30-40%. These figures made me feel much better about the hour long drive to get there.

  • Sloan15
    Sloan15 Member Posts: 896
    edited November 2015

    I'm popping in from the fall rads thread, too. I just finished #28 -only 2 boosts left. Yay. The others gave good advice; here's mine:

    1) Totally agree with queenmamacat that you don't rush out and buy a bunch of stuff! I didn't use any of it!

    2) Drink lots of water, and exercise!. I didn't have fatigue, and my doc said it's because of exercise.

    3) I used Miaderm 4 times a day and once in the middle of the night since I was drinking so much water! It's expensive, but it worked for me. I'm just a little pink.

    4) Boosts are nothing except electrons on the incision site. They are not as hard on your breast like the whole breast radiation. Don't fear them because they are called boosts!

    5) My RO and techs said the #1 thing was to make sure you didn't have skin to skin contact under breast or in armpit. So, I always put a soft t-shirt UNDER my bra, and at night I slept with a rolled up piece of cloth under my breast. Worked wonderfully. When I started to get a little pink and sore was when I didn't have it under my breast and I exercised. Also, use cornstarch in a sock and pat it on so less friction (keeps u dry). Great for exercise.

    6) I got a few little red dots on my breast on day 27. Normal. Some people get them earlier. Also, some people got nauseated. My doc always asked, but other docs deny it. My doc said to eat an hour or two before so you don't get sick with empty stomach.

    That was it for me! Oh, and if you had chemo, my hair started growing back, but is only really noticeable now (8 weeks after chemo).

    Good luck!

  • KCinMN
    KCinMN Member Posts: 81
    edited November 2015

    Sloan - congrats on almost being DONE with rads! And thanks for the good tips!

    I had no idea what the boosts really were. Lol! They sound scarier than they are I guess!

  • cajunqueen15
    cajunqueen15 Member Posts: 794
    edited November 2015

    Hi all! I'm sort of straddling the winter/spring line, but hoping to join you all. I start 6-8 weeks of rads in late February/early March. I'm about halfway through chemo now.

    Mary, my twins will be 3 in Feb. :)



  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited November 2015

    Another fall-rads sister checking in here--I finished two days ago. (felt really weird to be able to shower and “lube" my breast any time I wanted and not have to make the daily drive up to north Evanston). Here are my observations"

    1. Don't expect you will get all the side effects, nor that you will get any of them intensely. I am very fair-skinned and turned barely pink-tan. No actual irritation either. Got nausea only once--the day after--and only because I was busy and I'd forgotten to eat! And though I don't feel like walking a mile or two, I didn't get the dreaded fatigue either. (I had only 16 partial-breast treatments, but they were twice as strong). But I did make sure to get 8 hrs. of sleep a night, and to power-nap on those few days I couldn't.

    2. Per queenmomcat, don't stock up on all the things people have mentioned helped them. I spent an arm & a leg on support camisoles, button-front shirts & PJs, various creams, cooling towel, non-metallic deodorant, lidocaine gel and cornstarch--which I didn't use. In fact, half the non-wired bras I bought went back into storage, either because they were scratchy or gave no support. And ask whether your armpit will be within the radiation field--turns out mine wasn't, so I used my regular antiperspirant throughout. I was able to wear my regular underwire bras throughout--but the wires didn't touch either incision. I was prepared to give them up at the first sign of irritation. And if you do get irritation, watch out for stitching, lace, and stiff coarse fabrics lining the inside of your bra cups if you need to wear a bra. I didn't have to worry about skin-on-skin contact, as my underbust was not irradiated. Unless you live in the middle of nowhere without even a Walmart or Target, you will have plenty of chances to buy stuff you need when and as you'll need it. Save money and storage space!

    3. Pick a time (if you can) that best fits how you normally structure your day. I'm retired from the 9-5 grind and am an unabashed night owl. So I picked 3:15 pm--not so late I'd get stuck in rush hour, but late enough that I could get up when I wanted, shower and dress with time to kick back and have coffee & a snack first.

    4. You might not have to get tattooed: I got Sharpie marks covered with long-lasting clear tape, that stayed on for three weeks of daily showers and came off painlessly & completely once I was done.

    5. Don't assume your radiated breast will shrivel up. Mine swelled because of the tumor-cavity seroma. But if you have a SNB seroma, be prepared for it, too, to swell. Mine did at first but began shrinking again the last few days of treatment. If you feel like you're wearing a shoulder holster, a small pillow between arm & breast can help. And because your breast (and perhaps nipple) will feel somewhat sensitive, place a cushion or pad between you and your car's shoulder belt....and redirect your pets away from that breast.

    6. Nonetheless, it's a good idea to prophylactically moisturize & lube your breast starting right after your first session. (I used Aquaphor after each session because they gave me a few tubes that fit in my purse, and at night and on weekends I found that pure aloe gel or calendula cream--I alternated--worked well. An aloe cream I had bought turned out to have a fragrance that was too perfumey and I stopped using it after the first day). Also, no matter what you shower with on the rest of your body (e.g., I use L'Occitaine citrus verbena shower gel on a nylon scrubby puff), use only a mild soap without fragrance or deodorants. I used Basis white unscented bar soap and a soft micro-velour wash mitt on my irradiated breast. I patted dry with one of those soft microfiber hair towels that houseware & linens stores sell, rather than the regular coarser terry towel I used on the rest of my body.

    7. When in doubt, ask your RO, nurses and therapists what they prefer you do and do not do--even if you get printed handouts as I did. Not everything in there may apply to you. Be especially clear about whether your breast must be completely clean and free of any creams, ointments or gels when you walk into the treatment room. Despite others here saying they applied “protection" before each treatment, I was told to leave at least 4 hours between such application and treatment--and it was suggested I shower before each treatment. So I did.

    8. If you haven't already started a notebook documenting your journey (with sections for each aspect of diagnosis and treatment), start a radiation diary--list each treatment, any symptoms, and what you did about it.

  • etnasgrl
    etnasgrl Member Posts: 650
    edited November 2015

    I'll be starting Rads I believe sometime either right after Christmas or the first of January.
    As of right now, I'm scheduled for my lumpectomy on December 10th. On December 21st, I meet with the Radiation Oncologist and will find out then when I begin.
    My Surgical Oncologist made it sound like Rads will begin very shortly after meeting with Radiation Oncologist, so we shall see.

    I'm glad this thread was started, I think it will be great to go through this with other ladies. Support truly helps! I'm looking forward to getting to know all of you!

  • etnasgrl
    etnasgrl Member Posts: 650
    edited November 2015

    ChiSandy....Thank you SO much for your observations! Very, very helpful!!!

  • mdoc524
    mdoc524 Member Posts: 336
    edited November 2015

    Happy Happy Thanksgiving Everyone - hoping all can enjoy the Holiday!

    Welcome to our group cajunqueen15 and etnasgrl - sorry you have to be here but glad you found us!

    Cajunqueen15 - wow - hugs to you going thru this with your twins so so young! Hope chemo is not too bad! Chemo has been pretty rough here & thankful my boys are a little older ... I am a twin myself so neat to have them also...

    Queenmomcat, Sloan15 and ChiSandy - what great info you have shared with us - thank you so much! All - I will update our Tips Section over the weekend!

    Zuwali - I don't think anything is off limits in talking to your Dr about pushing Rads out - my question would be if it impacts the overall outcome - I had positive nodes so I want my rads sooner rather than later - Good Luck

    Mary

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  • cajunqueen15
    cajunqueen15 Member Posts: 794
    edited November 2015

    Mary, ID or frat? Are you and your twin close? Love being at twin mommy, but it is work!!! I almost laughed when I was diagnosed. I have 3 under 3, a husband who works 60+ hours per week and a job where I work on call...and you want me to find time for a year of cancer treatment?!? I can't find the time to read a magazine, lol.

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