November 2015 Surgeries Thread?

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  • Live4them
    Live4them Member Posts: 65
    edited November 2015

    I can't sleep I am miserable and have taken any and all meds given to me , my left breast feel like a not or spasm or something formed and won't go down .,. Tried ice , tried heat , tried gentle massage , tried Motrin ... At this point would love a margarita ... KLMORALES76 my doctor wants to see 30cc in total for a 24 hour period at my rate I'm going to be like you ! LOL , one question .. What the heck was the peeling skin about .. That's all I need now 😩.. Since you and I seem so similar in diagnosis and surgery I look up to you girl !!! Hope you get those drains out


    Actually not that I Reread your post can this be the drain that's bothering me ?? I see the PS in Thursday ... He seems happy with my progress .. I guess slow progress is better then no progress

  • Girl53
    Girl53 Member Posts: 225
    edited November 2015

    Chi and Smurf: Thanks so much for your replies...I have much better idea now what tomorrow might be like. Yikes!! I'll bring a book for waiting, some patience for procedure, and will look forward to going to get my puppy from daycare afterward. Will report back. Am SO looking forward to having this SNB done and getting this treatment show on the road.

    Chi, your "hot" replies so funny. I remember once visiting a neuropthamologist. He looked at his med student after examining my eye and asked, "What do you do with a truculent pupil?" I said, "Slap her?" He was not amused!!

    SillyHeart

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited November 2015

    Girl53, I’d have said “Make him go stand in the corner."

  • keepsake
    keepsake Member Posts: 59
    edited November 2015

    Hi Everyone,

    Hope you all are doing fine. Haven't had the chance to get back here. Haven't read through this forum yet. You are all on my mind and sending you positive thoughts and courage to get through your surgeries and heal well.

    This is my first post after my Bilateral mastectomies with TEs inserted was done on 11-12 (last Thursday). Here's my update. I spent two nights in hospital with low blood pressure and went home Saturday in early evening with 4 drains - 2 from each breast - or, more accurately, where breasts were . PS told me skin near chest wall is not strong enough to hold implants. Need to wait for capsules to develop (or grow?) there for her to insert implants into capsules. I'm concerned I won't get to have reconstruction given this chest wall skin status. However, PS did insert saline which gave me 2 small mounds now. Was large breasted. Now looks like what I remember having when I got a "training bra" in 4th grade.

    Have developed a generalized body rash that's been very itchy. Still dealing with quite a bit of pain and am very clumsy, too. Need to sleep in recliner chair still. Can't take showers until drains removed because I'm unable to use the tegederm tape due to sensitivity to the adhesives in regular tape. Have follow-up with PS later this afternoon. Hopefully will determine to which med I'm allergic. I bet it's the antibiotic. Have a laundry list of meds to which I'm allergic. Time to add another one. Dealing with all this on my own is not easy. ACS didn't have any drivers available to take me to my appointment today. Other people who offered to help had other plans today. I'm exhausted from dealing with practical matters like transportation needs and haven't had time to think about the emotional aspect yet. Trying to remain positive. Thankful this website exists with all of you strong women to look up to.




  • klmorales76
    klmorales76 Member Posts: 13
    edited November 2015

    live4them- after surgery I was told my skin on my left side was very thin, where I had the IDC it was closer to the skin than they originally thought. As a result my blood had a hard time returning to the area under my nipple my doc said they call that area the triangle of death with our type of surgery. It looked awful, it looked blue/ purple then eventually turned grey and blackish ( starting necrosis) he had me wash and gently massage the skin to see if any of the skin came off he didn't want to excise it if he didn't have too. So it finally peeled and m large part of skin is now reduced to a quarter size which is good news!!

    Wherever you feel uncomfortable ask your doc why mine was great about explaining unfortunately for me 10cc is very low and I'm around 15 still so im still stuck with them. I go back tomorrow and Monday its my one thanksgiving wish!!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2015

    Hi everyone, I hope you're all doing well. It's been 8 days since my surgery and I am ready to get these drains out! Yesterday, my total drainage was less than 10cc, and it's been decreasing by half pretty much daily. It wasn't painful in the beginning, probably because I was sore all over. But now I can feel the drain inside and it's starting to hurt. When I spoke to my surgeon on the phone, he said he will take them out on Friday. I'll be sure to take a pill before I go in to that appointment! Otherwise, my recovery has been better than what I expected. I'm still tired and not able to do everything that I used to, but I'm hoping by next week I will be closer to normal just in time for Thanksgiving (maybe some shopping?).

    I had an appointment with my MO yesterday, and she seems to think I should do 4 rounds of chemo just as an "insurance policy". Personally, I want to wait for my oncotype results to come back and then make a decision then. I had to ask her to run the oncotype because she felt it wouldn't change her opinion either way. Anyway, I'll be seeing her again in 3 weeks and by then we should have a final decision. In the meantime, I'm going to seek a second opinion at the major breast cancer center here in San Diego.

    Best wishes to all those recovering and good luck to those who still have surgeries in the coming weeks!

  • Mominator
    Mominator Member Posts: 1,575
    edited November 2015

    mulligan: I hope your surgery was smooth sailing today and I am looking forward to seeing you on the other side.

    Sandib65, Citrinetiff, TikkasaMom, and Frill: wishing you all the best tomorrow, smooth surgeries and easy recoveries.

    new_me/Diane: the wait is almost over. Wishing you a peaceful day tomorrow, and smooth surgery on Friday.

    love to all my surgery sisters, sending lots of love, prayers, and strength,

    Mominator

  • Jblmom
    Jblmom Member Posts: 22
    edited November 2015

    hey everyone,






    It's been great to keep up with the ladies on this thread. I had my bilateral mastectomy on Friday, I've been getting more sensation back and felt great yesterday, so I probably pushed myself too hard. Today, I had more pain again. I hate these drains and the tissue expanders are so bulky! Ugh. Does anyone else feel like they are bricks on the side of your rib cages and in the middle where I have the teensiest bit of cleavage?






    I was really discouraged today. I saw my breast surgeon and although the lymph nodes came back negative (fantastic news), I had positive margins. So, I have to go back into surgery this Friday. I wasn't emotionally ready for this possibility. Plus, he told me I will most likely have to have radiation since some cancer cells were left. One of the reasons I chose mastectomy was to possibly eliminate some of the follow up procedures, so I'm really bummed. Plus, I feel like I'm just coming out of the pain cycle, and now I'm going right back to it. Sorry for being so whiny,I just needed to come here and vent.
  • Mominator
    Mominator Member Posts: 1,575
    edited November 2015

    Jblmom:

    I'm sorry it was a good news, bad news appointment. Hoorah for the negative lymph nodes! I'm so sorry for the positive margins. I would have thought that the margins would have been bigger since the mastectomy would have included the remaining breast tissue.

    I know you're not looking forward to radiation, but maybe that might not be necessary after the next surgery.

    I hear you on the pain cycle. This is my second surgery this year, and I don't like the pain cycle either. But your next surgery will be so much less involved than the mastectomy, so I would think that the pain cycle would be shorter.

    Trying to look on the brighter side for you. Hang in there, sister, you are one tough cookie!!

    Love,

    Mominator

  • Marie711
    Marie711 Member Posts: 87
    edited November 2015

    I have been pretty patient this week but the results of the surgery pathology are due in the morning so I'm getting anxious to find out. Googling pathology.. I had 3 Suspicious areas and they only biopsied one. Will they look for the others in pathology? I just wondered how thorough they are with the whole breast to look at. The gene testing won't be back for a couple of weeks, but if they find this is related to ovarian cancer I wonder if the insurance will pay for removal of those without a known problem.

    I felt really good this week, part of me thinks this will be the end of it and I'll finally get healthy and thin. The other part of me thinks I'm going to die ! Trying to be grateful for each day because that's all we really have for sure anyway.

    Also wondering since my last mastectomy was only five months ago ...will the new prosthesis have to match the old one or can I choose the size and get two new ones ? I guess that's up to the insurance company, i'm sure someone has had this come up ...having two primary cancers is five months apart.

  • Jblmom
    Jblmom Member Posts: 22
    edited November 2015

    thanks mominator!


    Marie711, I'm so sorry to hear about a new cancer so soon after your first primary. Hugs!

  • Mominator
    Mominator Member Posts: 1,575
    edited November 2015

    Marie711: I'm sorry for two diagnoses, and two surgeries, for you.

    As I understand it, pathology will be slicing and dicing the entire sample, no matter how big it is. Their job is to prove or disprove that all the cancer has been found, removed, and identified. They will be checking the areas and identifying the types of tissues found,and the margins on the cancer.

    I've had 3 different biopsies this year, and everything has been sliced down to about 1 cm or so. They are very thorough.

    I'm praying for a good pathology report for you.

    Love,

    Mominator


  • Stepmish
    Stepmish Member Posts: 7
    edited November 2015

    Surgery is over. Lymph nodes were negative. I was diagnosed with stage 2. Waiting for pathology report to find out if i need Chemo. They were not able to do the implants as planned had to put tissue extenders. They said if I don't need chemo they will do the implants in 3 months if I need Chemo them 6 months. I am leaving the hospital today. I am very sore but I know that will get better in time.

    Michelle

  • keepsake
    keepsake Member Posts: 59
    edited November 2015

    Hi Everyone,

    PSA RE: Compression Bra Following Surgery

    Just posting to have all women facing their upcoming surgery to verify with breast and plastic surgeons if they will supply you with a compression bra that you are to wear immediately after surgery and the time you should begin to wear it.

    I had bilateral mastectomies with TEs. Saw my PS yesterday for my first follow-up and told her I had told the inpatient RN that surgeons wanted me to wear compression bra in hospital after surgery. However, RN adamantly refused to give me one, saying a compression bra was for women who did not get any amount of saline fill. (PS gave me a little amount of fill at surgery.) PS said that was NOT true and that the compression bra would have helped promote the drainage. Said she will speak with that RN. Too late to benefit me but hope it will help the women having surgery after me.

    I had 2 of the 4 drains removed yesterday. Basically I had 4 drains hanging from breasts and pulling on them for 6 days after surgery without support of a bra. Now worried that lack of compression bra for a week may have negatively affected the reconstruction in progress. Also, worried I might be more likely to get seromas because I developed a painful seroma after the excisional biopsy.

    In summary, please make sure your surgeon wants you to wear a compression bra, who will provide you with it, how soon after your surgery you should wear it, and definitely make sure you get it and wear it at the time prescribed.

    Sending you all positive thoughts and prayers for successful surgery, healing, and quick recovery.

  • TallnTerrific
    TallnTerrific Member Posts: 114
    edited November 2015
    My path came back with a .2cm tumor in the only lymph node. It seems that there was cancer throughout the left breast - 3 IDC tumors 2.5. 1.5 and .6 but they were multi-centric so that is good; several DCIS throughout; and cancer found in the dermis of the nipple. They are going to tell me today if more surgery is needed to remove additional lymph nodes.

    This is so different than the DX after biopsy including all of the many tests I had. Does this mean it is fast growing or did they make a mistake? I just feel now like that breast was full of cancer.

    My good news is I feel pretty good at nine days post op even after bilateral MX, and TEs filled to 250 cc. I got my drains out on day 6. I am much smaller now, but probably a C cup. They took out nearly 900ccs from each breast, so that was a lot of tissue. I feel light as a feather without all of that weight.

    A large part of my current size is the thick pectoral muscles developed after years of competitive swimming and ballet. I feel tight and swollen at times but find a warm shower or ibuprofen usually takes the edge off. If it is really bad Valium is my new wonder drug!

    I am really just scared about my future. It seems that the cancer changed very drastically and there is some indication in my report they only randomly tested the tissue. Are you all sure that they look at everything? If they didn't even know about a two of my IDC tumors pre-op how can anyone be comfortable with a lumpectomy?
  • Thundergal
    Thundergal Member Posts: 12
    edited November 2015

    Mulligan, Sandib65, Citrineff, TikkasMom and Frill - Sending all of you great ladies lots of positive thoughts! Let us know how you're doing when you're able!

    New_me, Diane - calming thoughts to you as you prepare for your surgeries tomorrow.

    Stepmish - I'm so glad your surgery is over. Let's hear it for negative lymph nodes!! Let your body rest and check in when you're able.

    Mominator - I hope you're recovering a bit now that your surgery is over.

    Marie711 - I'm so sorry you're having to deal with the double whammy of two diagnoses and two surgeries - it really stinks. Hang in there - you can DO this!

    Next Wednesday is my BMS with tissue expanders. Dye injection Tuesday afternoon. AS the big day gets closer, I feel like the emotional roller coaster I've been on for the last 6 weeks has moved into hyper speed with no predicabiity as to what/who may set me off. Hubby is wonderfully understanding. Aftrer reading through the posts of many of you, I took your advice and asked my doctor for something to help with the agitation/anxiety and lack of sleep. Skeptical though I was, I have to say it's making a positive improvement for me! I hate taking these medicines, but I realize they are for a situational experience and aren't forever. I have to say, though, the Effexor (antidepressant) was suggested to my by my OB-GYN as having strong ability to decrease night sweats. After just a few days of starting this medicine, last night was the first night in 6 weeks that I didn't have to change jammies at least once during the night - YAY!

    Reading through these threads has been my support system since early October, when I was diagnosed. We are strong, funny, scared, motivated, intelligent and tremendously loving women. Most of all, I think we are fierce! Thanks for all of the support!

    Catherine

  • Scsa
    Scsa Member Posts: 26
    edited November 2015

    HI everyone! just checking in and hoping everyone is feeling good today. I am finding it hard to wait for the pathology report and keep wondering if my BS will call prior to my appointment which is next Tuesday. Not knowing and wondering the next steps is hard! Trying to not get nervous...

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2015

    TallnTerrific, I'm sorry that your pathology report wasn't what you were hoping for (mine wasn't either). They found a 4mm macromet in one lymph node, and an area of DCIS next to the tumor, but the doctors are just focused on the IDC part. My oncologist said that she recommends chemo, but it was ultimately my decision and that I should see it as an extra layer of security. I know from my pathology report that they looked at everything, it's all detailed out. I'm wondering why your surgeon didn't remove the rest of the lymph nodes at the same time, maybe they weren't tested during the surgery. When I was diagnosed, I was told my tumor was 1cm on ultrasound. Then they did an MRI 2 weeks later, and they told me it was 2.9cm, and in final pathology, it came back at 3.0cm by 2cm. In the MRI, they had found a "stable cyst." There is no mention of a cyst in pathology, which makes me think that what appeared as a cyst was actually DCIS...Does imaging even mean anything? Was yours caught on mammogram or did you feel something?

    Best wishes to everyone! Stay strong!

  • TallnTerrific
    TallnTerrific Member Posts: 114
    edited November 2015

    lovingisliving, my biopsy, breast MRI, 3d mammogram and PET scan imagining all seemed to their weaknesses. One IDC tumor of .6 cm showed nowhere. One of the DCIS tumors was actually an IDC tumor even though it was biopsied. My surgeon called tonight with more information. What I saw on Monday was the "initial" path report Now they will finish the path report, (no one said it came in two parts), but luckily I do not need to have more surgery to remove additional nodes! That was decided at the tumor committee. My surgeon did not do immediate pathology during surgery as she said it was less rereliable than a "permanent pathology" which apparently is done in two parts. My largest tumor now is grade 2, but there is a lot of activity in that breast, so they believe they will find I am luminal b from the MmamoPrint requiring chemo.

    To respond to your other question about how we'd so reed my cancer, I noticed a small change in the shape of my breast and then a dimpling that was only noticeable from my vantage point. My PCP didn't really see it but she humored me and ordered the diagnostic mammo. She later told me that I saved my own life. That made me look at this more positively.

  • Mominator
    Mominator Member Posts: 1,575
    edited November 2015

    mulligan, Sandib65, Citrinetiff, TikkasaMom, and Frill: looking forward to you all coming home and resting.

    new_me/Diane: wishing you all the best tomorrow, smooth surgery and easy recovery.

    BTW: new_me is Diane. I was using both her screen name and her name from her signature.

    love to all my surgery sisters, sending lots of love, prayers, and strength,

    Madelyn AKA Mominator
    BRCA2+, wife, mom to 3 children of various special needs, musician, volunteer, 54 yrs young

  • TikkasMom
    TikkasMom Member Posts: 83
    edited November 2015

    Hi haven't read today's posts yet but had a double mastectomy today, 4 hour surgery with no surprises. Sitting up, had soup n salad. Nurses are amazed how well I'm doing. Now to read some, not all. Still feeling a bit loopy...

  • Mominator
    Mominator Member Posts: 1,575
    edited November 2015

    Welcome back, TikkasMom! You rock. I hope you continue to amaze everyone, you certainly amaze me.

  • new__me
    new__me Member Posts: 128
    edited November 2015

    hi to all! It is my PBMX-eve lol. It's been a hectic day no time to sit around and worry which is good. Met with my PS and got all marked up with purple marker. I will have TEs inserted and he expects to fill each to 250 cc on the table. Said it is about half my natural breasts' size. Son called from Minneapolis to wish me well. Been on the phone all evening fielding calls from family, hospital, anesthesiologist, surgeon's office. Happy to just sit quietly now. I have to check in at 6 AM. surgeon said i could probably go home next day. Would be nice! My daughter is a critical care (ICU) RN and has offered to spend the night taking care of me :)

    Wishing you all swift and easy recovery. Thank you for all the words of courage and encouragement. I can't bellieve i am at the eve.

    Diane

  • Frill
    Frill Member Posts: 311
    edited November 2015

    I can't even say how badly my surgery went. During it, my bp dropped to undetectable. They still aren't sure why, but they think it might have been a reaction to the blue dye for the lymph node part.

    So only one boob got done, and no TEs inserted. I have to wait two weeks to find out pathology to determine next steps. Surgeon doesn't think the tumors are connected, but if they are - radiation and maybe chemo. If spread to lymph nodes, same. She doesn't think either has happened, but we have to wait for labs.

    If I finally catch a break, then I get to do a reenactment. MX on other side, TEs put in on both, filled half. Surgery two weeks after that, prolly.

    And for those of you talking to whippetmom about implant size, she hit the nail right on the head. PS said it was the first time she saw me smile, and I pulled out my notebook and showed her 700ccs written down.

    Glad I made a box of cookies for the nurses. They certainly deserved it with my freaking out till Lucy Lawless came in to talk to me.And got a dose of gratitude from my sweet nurse - her husband had just been murdered and her mom had passed away recently also. Talk about God speaking through others.

  • Free123
    Free123 Member Posts: 84
    edited November 2015

    Oh Frill, I'm so sorry! You have really been through it. At that point I know it had to be hard to imagine anyone having a worse time- but then we are gently reminded that it could indeed be worse and we have much to be grateful for... Please know you are in our thoughts and prayers!!!

    Much love, Freeland

    All the rest of you precious ladies hang in there!!! Sending hugs and prayers to all~

  • Mominator
    Mominator Member Posts: 1,575
    edited November 2015

    Frill, I'm happy to have you back. I'm so sorry about your half surgery. I'm sorry only one boob was done. Was the other boob prophylactic? Once you get the other MX, what is the surgery two weeks after that?

    Hey, look at it this way, you get to rest and recover before you experience the "joys" of TEs. I'm cursing my TEs "Every breath I take / and every move I make."

    Modern medicine is an art and a science. My bp dropped very low during recovery. They think it was the nitroglycerin patches that they put on my nipples to encourage blood flow. My bp was down for 10 hours. I was so scared.

    I hope your pathology is good news and that you will have a clear path from here.

    Madelyn AKA Mominator
    BRCA2+, wife, mom to 3 children of various special needs, musician, volunteer, 54 yrs young


  • Mominator
    Mominator Member Posts: 1,575
    edited November 2015

    Hello all, just got back from my appointment with the Breast Surgeon.

    I am very sore, bruised and swollen, but I am recovering. My incisions are healing well. Since the drains are putting out 30+ ml per day, they stay in for now. I didn't get my wheels back. Breast surgeon wants me to heal some more, and to get my drains out, before I can drive.

    One surprise is that the surgeon now wants me to start wearing a soft bra or camisole for support 24/7. No one had mentioned any bra until now. I thought most patients get a surgical bra if they need one. Since no one mentioned it, I thought I had a pass. Believe me, nothing is moving there. Rock hard TEs in the midst of swollen breasts. Now I have to go find some support.

    Next Tuesday, I see both the Gynecological Oncologist (for the BSO) and the Plastic Surgeon. The Gyn Onc will need to check my incisions. The Plastic Surgeon wants to check the questionable tissue on Leftie. Maybe it will slough off, or maybe he will trim it off. If my drains are below 30 ml for two whole days, the drains can come out. Maybe I'll get my wheels back then.

    A big question is what our little of 5 family is doing for Thanksgiving. We had made plans to travel to Massachusetts to visit with our family. Hubby's brother is hosting Thanksgiving on Thursday at his house, we would see the entire side of hubby's family then. My brother is hosting a smaller Thanksgiving for our side of the family on Friday. I would see my Mom, who has been in treatment for Stage III Invasive Lobular Cancer since Sept 2014.

    We will see how I feel on Tuesday, and make a decision then.

    Madelyn AKA Mominator
    BRCA2+, wife, mom to 3 children of various special needs, musician, volunteer, 54 yrs young

  • TallnTerrific
    TallnTerrific Member Posts: 114
    edited November 2015

    Does anyone else feel like you start to feel good and somewhat normal and start doing more, then wham-- you feel sore, can't sleep and have places hurting that weren't bothering you before?

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited November 2015

    Madelyn, a good place to find soft front-close stretch bras (especially with normal-size TEs) is HerRoom.com. It even has a video on choosing a post-surgical bra. I got Leading Lady front-close stretch bras (for sleeping) in a bunch of colors: black, pale yellow, pink, gray heather, purple and b/w polka dots. As for support camis, Amoena makes them--but they are pricey.

  • Jblmom
    Jblmom Member Posts: 22
    edited November 2015

    mominator - I loved your sentiments about TEs, hating them with every breath you take/ move you make!


    I had the right side re-excised today to get closer to the skin and get clear margins. I'm worried about necrosis, but this surgery was much better than the first. My sister had BC diagnosed in January and said that my future self will be happy with this decision, but honestly, part of me is thinking I should have just skipped reconstruction. But, I'm going to stick with it.


    My mom is going through radiation for a DCIS that she just had removed, so I'm not sure about thanksgiving either. I would be really happy just staying in my recliner all day

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