My next step - Question!

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etnasgrl
etnasgrl Member Posts: 650
edited November 2015 in Just Diagnosed

As of right now, I am waiting on the results of my genetic testing to determine my next step. (I am 41 and my mother was 42 when diagnosed.)
My surgical oncologist told me that if the results are positive, I would need a double mastectomy, followed by reconstruction surgery.
Obviously, I'm praying that the results are negative, but want to be prepared in case they are positive. I've been doing some research on mastectomies and the various options available for reconstruction surgery. (I have an appointment on Monday afternoon with my plastic surgeon to discuss this.) About 95% of the info I have come across describes the reconstruction surgery as horrible with very long recovery times.
I have an 11 year old son who is very active in sports and other activities. I want to be able to continue life as normal as possible for him, meaning mom will be at his events, drive him to his events, and so on. So, this means I don't want to be laying around recovering for weeks on end.

My question is this:
Is it possible for a woman who is diagnosed with the type of breast cancer that I have, (see my signature for details), and genetic testing comes back positive, to have a lumpectomy followed by radiation, (the course of treatment my oncologist told me I would have if results are negative), as opposed to going through a double mastectomy with reconstruction surgery?
Obviously, I know that would entail numerous screening in the future....mammograms, MRI's, etc.

I've read that even with a double mastectomy, cancer can still return....it's not a 100% guarantee that you will be cancer free in the future. I don't know.....I just know that I do NOT want to have a double mastectomy. Not for vanity reasons. For recovery and getting on with life reasons, if that makes sense.
Maybe I'm looking into all of this way too much and overwhelming myself before I even know results, but the above is a question I've had for several days and would really like to get others opinions and advice.

Thanks so much!

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  • Sjacobs146
    Sjacobs146 Member Posts: 770
    edited November 2015

    It is your body and your choice. If the genetic testing comes back positive and you're willing to live with the increased odds of a recurrance by going the lumpectomy route, then that is what you should do. the doctors can't make you do anything

  • etnasgrl
    etnasgrl Member Posts: 650
    edited November 2015

    Yes, I understand that it's my choice, my body and all that.
    I'm just looking for advice and/or opinions.

    At the end of the day, it comes down to doing what is best for me.....but along the way, it would be very helpful to hear from you ladies here.
    Thanks so much!

    Smile


  • BarredOwl
    BarredOwl Member Posts: 2,433
    edited November 2015

    HI etnasgrl:

    You seem like a planner! What kind of testing are you having: BRCA1 and 2 only or a multi-gene panel test? Also, have you and/or will you be meeting with a genetic counselor?

    I ask because different genes confer different degrees of risk(s). Consensus guidelines are not available for all of the genes that may be tested. Thus, with some genes, prophylactic mastectomy is not yet recommended, although a patient might still choose it for various reasons.

    I do agree with Sjacobs that it comes down to: What is the level of risk conferred by this particular mutation in this gene? What is my overall risk of a new cancer or recurrence, in light of this mutation, my presentation, and family history? (A genetic counselor can conduct a personalized risk assessment for you.) Then, assuming the gene and mutation are adequately characterized, what are the recommended screening and/or risk reduction options for deleterious mutations in this particular gene (e.g., enhanced screening, chemoprevention, prophylactic bilateral mastectomy (PBM))? How effective/reliable are these? By how much would chemoprevention and/or PBM reduce risk? What level of risk can I live with?

    I had BRCA1/2 testing only. At the time, I was diagnosed on the right side only (unilateral, multifocal disease), was pre-menopausal (52), my family was small, and I had one first and one second degree relative with cancers typical of HBOC (hereditary breast and ovarian cancer) syndrome, plus other types of cancers in the family history. I had learned in parallel with my diagnosis that I had one heterogeneously dense and one extremely dense breast, which can increase risk and impede detection. I had seen my mammograms, and I was concerned about the limitations of screening in my case. I realized that even if the BRCA test came out negative, I might still have some unidentified genetic pre-disposition. So, during the waiting period, I actually thought more about what I would do if I had a negative result: Would I go forward with the recommended unilateral mastectomy and continue with screening the other side, or would I seek contralateral prophylactic mastectomy (CPM)? I was leaning towards CPM. As fate would have it, on the very day I got the good news about the genetic testing results, as part of a second opinion (which recommended another diagnostic mammogram), I got the bad news that I would need a surgical biopsy on the other side, which led to a diagnosis of bilateral breast cancer and indicated bilateral mastectomy.

    Formally speaking, I note there is yet another option, and that is mastectomy without reconstruction. That is what I chose, after researching my options. If you are curious about that, this is an excellent website (created by a member of BC.org), with personal stories about why people chose that route (see menu at right):

    http://breastfree.org

    I am hoping for clear negative results for you!

    BarredOwl



    Age 52 at diagnosis - Bilateral breast cancer - Stage IA IDC - BRCA negative;

    Bilateral mastectomy and SNB without reconstruction 9/2013

    Dx Right: ER+PR+ DCIS (5+ cm) with IDC (1.5 mm) and micro-invasion < 1 mm; Grade 2 (IDC); 0/4 nodes.

    Dx Left: ER+PR+ DCIS (5+ cm); Grade 2 (majority) and grade 3; isolated tumor cells in 1/1 nodes (pN0i+(sn)).

  • BrooksideVT
    BrooksideVT Member Posts: 2,211
    edited November 2015

    Etnasgirl, it is not an all or none decision. Even if your genetic test comes back positive, you can have a lumpectomy now, then take a little time planning your double mastectomy in the future. You can also have one or two mastectomies now, and delay reconstruction until a more convenient time. I know--having more choices does not make your ultimate choice easier, but it might give you time to really consider your options and plan around your son's sports seasons and activities.

    Do read the reconstruction threads here, and also the information on the main website, and quiz your docs as well--they have to give you the real story about recovery, limitation, risks. I think some kinds of reconstruction offer fairly easy recovery.

    I was one who was completely stressed out over all the options and spent a lot of time researching each and every possibility. Still, I was completely undecided as to which way to turn, ultimately deciding on a lumpectomy just to give the tumor the old heave-ho--I'd work out single/double/flat/DIEP later. With the tumor gone, and with good pathology, I felt I had time to explore my options. I was surprised at how happy I was with just the lumpectomy/radiation.



  • etnasgrl
    etnasgrl Member Posts: 650
    edited November 2015

    BrooksideVT....

    Thank you for your response!!! Call me dumb or just uneducated, but I had NO idea that this was NOT an all or nothing situation!
    My surgical oncologist made it sound like a double mastectomy would be needed right away, if the results were positive. I'm over here STRESSING because I only have a few days to make this HUGE decision....or at least this is what I thought, until you answered this thread.
    I can't tell you how much relief you have just given me!!!

    Happy

    As of this moment, (and I have several appointments coming up in the next few days....plastic surgeon and genetic doctor to name a few), I will proceed with a lumpectomy followed by radiation and then move forward from there.
    Seriously, thank you so much for your response!


    BarredOwl....I didn't forget you! LOL! Thank you so much as well. The info that you provided was terrific.

  • Ridley
    Ridley Member Posts: 634
    edited November 2015

    etnasgrl -- you could also have a lumpectomy and then have a bilat mastectomy with reconstruction. That's what i did. I didn't have enough time to figure out reconstruction, and wanted to deal with the known cancer, so I went ahead with a lumpectomy. That gave me some time to figure out the reconstruction and understand whether I needed chemo. Since I didn't need chemo, instead of having radiation, I had a bilat mastectomy and immediate reconstruction using my own tissue (DIEP). I'm almost two years out from my recon surgery and am going great -- no restrictions from the surgery. You can't always avoid radiation by having a mastectomy, but can if there is no lymph node involvement, the tumor is far enough away from the chest wall, etc.

    My timeline was diagnosed at the end of June, lumpectomy at the end of August, mastectomies and recon in mid- December.

    Good luck with your decision -- nothing is easy about this.

  • bcisnofun
    bcisnofun Member Posts: 488
    edited November 2015

    Hi Etnasgrl,  thinking of you as you go through this process.  I had similar stats to you.  I had lots of family history and yet it came back BRCA negative.  I was 45 at the time with an active 7 year old son.  Unlike you, I wanted a double mastectomy - off with them, I thought! :).  I had reconstruction with latissimus dorsi.  I hope you don't have to have a mastectomy if you don't want it.  Surgery did indeed stink and I was in pain for a period.  Drains suck too.  I was lucky and had the world's best plastic surgeon, but I was driving and back at the gym 2 weeks after a 14 hour surgery, walking on the treadmill and being a mom doing most everything I wanted to do.  By 4 weeks, walking 4 miles a day and back at work.  Then for the implant exchange I was only out of commission for a day an a half.  That was 4.5 years ago.  I just turned 50 and I can do more full body push ups than most men I know.  If you have to have a mastectomy, get a great surgeon/plastic surgeon and know that it doesn't necessarily mean you'll be down and out for long at all.  Keep us posted as you get your results and decide on next step.  You'll come up with the right decision for you. 

  • dtad
    dtad Member Posts: 2,323
    edited November 2015

    etnasgrl Just want to let you know I too was concerned about length of recovery. I elected to have direct to implant reconstruction. It eliminates the tissue expander fills and a second surgery to remove the expanders. You can't always be as bigas you want though. I was a 36DD and now Im a 36C. However the recovery period was much shorter and easier. Take your time making any decisions. Good luck and keep us posted.






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