Starting Chemo in October 2015

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  • Jclc83
    Jclc83 Member Posts: 246
    edited November 2015

    I think about being stage 4 too. Have had back pain for many months. I always have hope but I have to be realistic too.

  • biscuits
    biscuits Member Posts: 3,304
    edited November 2015

    Thank you all for replying to my nasal sore problems. I have been using Ayr saline nasal gel and Ocean spray. I was wondering about antibiotic cream for the nose...

    My older sister just passed away from lung cancer. Wasn't much sleeping going on last night. Kind of wish I wasn't having infusion, today, but I know it's important to stay on schedule.

  • Jclc83
    Jclc83 Member Posts: 246
    edited November 2015

    my condolences biscuits. Hugs


  • mustlovepoodles
    mustlovepoodles Member Posts: 2,825
    edited November 2015

    I'm sorry for your loss, Biscuits. For most of us, the bond with our siblings, particularly our sisters, is very strong. It's longest relationship we have, after our parents.

    You're right, it's important to stay on schedule, and it's also important to get your sleep, especially when your body is being attacked by all this chemo and stuff. If you haven't asked your doctor for something to help you sleep, do so.

    ETA: I feel like I'm somewhat of a cheerleader for quality sleep. I have chronic depression and anxiety, and the thing that sets me off the most is lack of sleep or disrupted sleep. As long as I get my sleep, I function very well but Lord help if I don't get a good night. Then EVERYTHING goes downhill and I just can't cope well.

  • AmyBeader
    AmyBeader Member Posts: 90
    edited November 2015

    So sorry for your loss Biscuits.

    I had nosebleeds the first round, but not this second one. I use saline gel in my nose when I get them, and that seems to help.

    I asked my nurse about the on-body injector for Neulasta but she said my MO preferred to have eyes on me.

    Anyone notice you aren't having to shave your legs as much? That's a perk!



  • Andraxo
    Andraxo Member Posts: 410
    edited November 2015

    So sorry for the loss of your sister Biscuits. xo

    Having a wave of sadness at the moment. I have cancer. How the F$%#! did this happen? I know you all have these thoughts too.

    It will pass quickly....the sadness. The cancer will too I hope, but that will take some more time. Fighting hard to stay me. So thankful for the incredible life I have regardless of cancer.

    love and hugs to you all! Extra hugs to Biscuits.

    Andra xo

  • Autumn121
    Autumn121 Member Posts: 29
    edited November 2015

    Hi everyone. I am having my second A/C treatment on Thursday. For those of you who have had a second treatment, did you find your side effects to be similar to your first treatment? Or were they better? Or worse? ??

  • ncsue927
    ncsue927 Member Posts: 57
    edited November 2015

    Fourth round of AC today and two more to go! I'm feeling good today (thanks to the steroids!), the sun has FINALLY come out here in Raleigh and I was able to go to lunch with my best friend. What a day!! We do learn to appreciate the small things, don't we?

    I was reading about all the mouth and nose issues.....I seem to have dry eyes. Especially at night, I wake up and my eyes seem so dry. Has anyone else experienced that?


  • ncsue927
    ncsue927 Member Posts: 57
    edited November 2015

    Biscuits, I am so sorry for your loss. Please take care of you during this time. I'm one of the lucky ones who doesn't have a problem sleeping, but do try to talk to your MO and try to get something for sleep.

    Autumn, my second AC was not as bad as the first. Actually, after the first, I kind of settled into a routine and knew what to expect, so it has become a bit routine. My side effects come from my white count dropping. I also use a tracking sheet that I got from the American Cancer Society web page so I can look back and pretty much tell what to expect on what day. It's helpful for me.

  • Kimmer33
    Kimmer33 Member Posts: 386
    edited November 2015

    amybeader, yes, havent shaved in at least a month now, so that is kind of nice.

    Andra, sorry you are having a sad moment, me too today. We are allowed, vent away!

    My 2nd AC treatment was much better than my first, however, my third just this past Friday has hit me pretty hard, mostly fatigue and some diarrhea which has been non existent until now. Just one more AC, just one more...

    Kim

  • mustlovepoodles
    mustlovepoodles Member Posts: 2,825
    edited November 2015

    My second treatment was today, Cytoxan & Taxotere, and I'm hoping it's going to go a lot better this time. After the first round I ended up in the hospital 3 days later with a massive infection!

    I have found the grieving process kinda weird for me. I'm a pragmatic person and my usual thing is to come up with a plan and manage the situation accordingly without much drama. I have had a few moments of teariness--driving down I-75 on my way to work one morning, and the day I went for my first wig fitting. While in the hospital I burst into tears during "Mamma Mia!" and later, when I was having excruciating back pain the tears began suddenly with the thought of "I have cancer! I have fricking cancer!" That was probably the worst one.

    I have had a lot of crazy dreams since starting this journey. Lots of figuring-stuff-out dreams, lots of forgetting-important-things-like-where-you-left-the-baby, and oh-hell-everything-is-going-wrong dreams. I'm sure my mind is just trying to process this experience.

  • biscuits
    biscuits Member Posts: 3,304
    edited November 2015

    Thank you for all the hugs! These past few months I always say " you can never have too many hugs!" Hugs are so comforting, healing and joyful.

    Having not to shave my legs and underarms is definitely a treat during this process. Even the few chin hairs that happen post menopause (LOL) don't pop up anymore. When my hair went, I joked that maybe the chin hairs would keep on growing and then I would just do a " comb over" and cover the bald head. Just have to settle for my little hats...

    Second round of TC today. They said to expect basically same type of side effects as I had after the first round but now I know what, and when, to expect things to happen. She said I would be more tired this round and I actually napped for a bit this evening. My work gave me five days off for bereavement leave for the loss of my sister, so that will cover the days when I may feel at my lowest from the chemo. It's kind of comforting to know that I won't have to feel obligated to have to struggle through my work days when I'm not feeling 100%. So, for all you gals out there....hugs right back at ya!



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  • Smurfette26
    Smurfette26 Member Posts: 730
    edited November 2015

    Hugs biscuits. So sorry to read of the loss of your sister.


    Hope this round is much kinder to you mustlovepoodles.

    I had my first infusion yesterday.

    The steroids are keeping me "wired". Only managed 3 and a half hours sleep last night.

    Not looking at all forward to what the next few days may bring.




  • biscuits
    biscuits Member Posts: 3,304
    edited November 2015

    Smurfette26: keep us up on how you are feeling. Do you know what your chemo "cocktail" is? You will probably feel okay for a few days until it catches up with you. Take care of yourself and rest when you can. Keep a journal of your side effects, as it will be helpful for the next infusion and for your MO.

  • MaggieMae123
    MaggieMae123 Member Posts: 38
    edited November 2015

    To Durham Girl and anyone else suffering from the big D. I have had a rough time with it this second go round. Tried Imodium and then last Thursday got a prescription from my Dr. which didn't really seem to help too much. Just delayed the inevitable. What I did find that helped me a lot was getting fresh lemons and squeezing a fresh lemon in some cold water with just enough sugar to help it go down. Three or 4 times a day and it helped to firm things up. Wish you the best.



  • DurhamGirl
    DurhamGirl Member Posts: 100
    edited November 2015

    MaggieMae123, sorry to hear about your struggles with diarrhea. It is so unpleasant and humiliating. I have had a much better time this round...not sure why, but I have been trying to be more proactive about it. The nutritionist at the hospital recommended a product called Banatrol Plus--it's a prebiotic powder that you can mix with soft food specially designed for the management of diarrhea. You can find it online. I am also taking a probiotic everyday--my acupuncturist recommended the kind that needs to be refrigerated because there are many more live and active "good" bacteria in it than in the shelf stable kinds. I chose one that was very highly rated by LabDoor (you can find their site online) called RenewLife UltimateFlora Critical Care. It's NOT cheap, but I'm willing to spend a bit more now rather than end up in the hospital again. I also took 2 Imodium at the very first sign of loose stool. My MO also reduced my chemo dose by 20%, which might have helped as well. After my experience last round, I'm at the "whatever works" point. I hope you get some relief soon!

  • mustlovepoodles
    mustlovepoodles Member Posts: 2,825
    edited November 2015

    Smurfette, I always get pretty wired when I take the steroids. If I don't take something for sleep, I wouldn't sleep at all. My doctor gave me a prescription for lorazepam (Ativan) 0.5mg. That's not a lot of med but it helps me fall asleep and stay asleep for at least 6-7 hours. I wake up without a hangover and go along through my day.

    The best part of taking the steroids is that it makes my psoriatic arthritis sooooo much better! My MO won't let me take my usual NSAID or any steroids, other than the ones I get the day before, during, and after chemo. I can't even describe the relief I feel in my bone-on-bone knees. Today I could go up the stairs without pulling myself by the railing. If I didn't have breast cancer, I would be getting a knee replacement.

  • homeschool4us
    homeschool4us Member Posts: 255
    edited November 2015

    Biscuits, I am so very sorry. (((Hugs)))

    Andraxo, I had a few moments like that last night. I have a hard time Fallin asleep because all I can think about is what will happen to my husband and kids if I die, what will it feel like to die, anything and everything about dying. This is a nightly thing, but last night I just started crying and wishing I could go back to my normal life that I had before. I don't feel there is much hope that I won't at some point be stage 4. The thought of either dying or dealing with treatment amd cancer for the rest of my however long life is so depressing. That being said, I am so happy and grateful for the many blessings I have during the day. It's just at night, when everyone is sleeping and it's dark and quiet.

  • homeschool4us
    homeschool4us Member Posts: 255
    edited November 2015

    Autumn121, my 2nd AC was also easier than my first. I had a lot of extenuating circumstances the first time around though. I'm hoping round 3 tomorrow is the same or better. Half way done with AC!

    Mustlovepoodles, I too have strange strange dreams. Lots of dreams about losing people and random babies. Another reason I don't like the nights anymore.

  • homeschool4us
    homeschool4us Member Posts: 255
    edited November 2015

    Is anyone here on Taxol and herceptin? I'm looking ahead and wondering what I have to look forward to.

  • MamaBexar
    MamaBexar Member Posts: 102
    edited November 2015

    Must Love Poodles, I had a total knee replacement last year. The year I spent recovering from that surgery and the pain I endured were so much worse than anything I am going through now. Not that this has anything to do with anything except I hope you never have to go through that. Of course none of us are thrilled to be battling BC either.

    HomeSchooling, I can understand why you are having trouble sleeping, etc. You certainly have an over loaded plate of things to worry about. If you haven't explored the Herceptin web site, I recommend you do. There are some pretty exciting things studies results and information to be found there. You know we are all rooting for you.

  • MaineRottweilers
    MaineRottweilers Member Posts: 156
    edited November 2015

    You will find HER2support.org very helpful. It has message boards just like BCO, they are just a smaller, less diverse group. I am MaineRottweilers over there too.

  • Andraxo
    Andraxo Member Posts: 410
    edited November 2015

    had a blood draw today.

    Hemoglobin 11.8 - not too bad, which is probably why I've still been doing ok with exercise. I ran 8 miles yesterday! Very slow, but that doesn't matter. :)

    White count is abysmal. Total count 1.26. Yikes! Fingers crossed I make it to next round on schedule and not sick. Have antibiotics on hand for any signs of infection.

    Gotta rest more too.

    Hope everyone is feeling stronger every day

    Xo

  • malonejen
    malonejen Member Posts: 23
    edited November 2015

    I have two teens, late 40s. Don't know how to do the signature line thing you all have after your posts. I work fulltime. Started chemo 10/23 right after an event for 200 the night before at work! First AC went ok and i was back to work by Monday (had chemo Friday afternoon) but second a little dicey and was sick Sun and Mon. Finishing work week today. Doing cold caps. Trying to save some hair but saving my life is #1!

  • TinaB71
    TinaB71 Member Posts: 17
    edited November 2015

    Hello, my first chemo started on 26.10. and the next chemo is Monday, 16.11. I have 4x EC and 12x Pacli.

  • LivingThis
    LivingThis Member Posts: 38
    edited November 2015

    andraxo - congratulations on the 8-mile run! awesome! I am hoping to put in 3 miles today (day 8 after treatment #2 with AC).

    malonejen - I started AC on 10/23 also and have had 2 treatments so far. I use the Neulasta auto-injector to keep my white counts up and so far so good! I have not lost my hair yet but am not cold capping and expect to see it drop any day. I have lots of "gear" prepared! (wigs, scarves, etc)

    autumn - my second treatment was better...I knew what to expect and I was more proactive about taking senna and colace and fiber to counteract the constipating side effects of the anti-nausea meds...I have been lucky and have not yet experienced bone pain from neulasta but I carry tylenol and motrin with me everywhere I go so at first sign of trouble, I can be ready. I also carry immodium and a change of clothing "just in case" but haven't needed them yet...I have worked very hard to stay active - running 3 times a week and walking when I don't feel up to running and think that helps my body and my mind. I try to fit in some mindfulness practice and have gone to the gym a couple of times when able. 

    So far...I feel incredibly lucky with how this is going...so then other questions sneak in like "is the chemo working? Is it powerful enough?

    Autumn - go to home page under "my profile" and if you wish to, you can enter details about your diagnosis and treatment and set it ti public or private - if you set it to public, then it will appear as your signature


  • Jclc83
    Jclc83 Member Posts: 246
    edited November 2015

    Hi Tina welcome!

    My abdomen looks and feels so bloated. I'm really not eating that much. I lose a couple of pounds the first week after treatment but by the third week I've gained a few. Where did my waist go? Ugh

  • Jclc83
    Jclc83 Member Posts: 246
    edited November 2015

    I feel like I'm the only one in this group.

  • Skittlegirl
    Skittlegirl Member Posts: 428
    edited November 2015
  • homeschool4us
    homeschool4us Member Posts: 255
    edited November 2015

    Thanks for the links to her2support.org! I'll check it out.

    Andraxo, whoa on that low wbc! Be careful! I didn't see my numbers from yesterday, but she said they were good enough. I want to compare to last time, so I hope they put them up on the website soon.

    Malonejen and Tina, welcome!!

    Livingthis, I haven't really gotten bone pain from neulasta either. My facial bones seem to hurt and then my shoulder and back skin amd muscle get sore, but I don't think it's the neulasta, no deep bone pain like others have experienced.

    Jclc83, I too remain bloated. I have lost a few pounds, but it could be post pregnancy weight loss as I had already gained a few from that.

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