Newly diagnosed and feeling out of control
I am 44 and just had a core biopsy done on 11/4. On 11/6 i got THE CALL. My biggest worries confirmed, yes it was bc...Still angry, confused, and still scared. It feels like every emotion I have is active at the same time. My NP did not have any additional pathology information yet but wanted me to know asap so I could absorb the shock. Well here I am 3 days later, and still in shock, still mad as hell and even more confused then ever. All I've been told is the details will trickle in over 7-10 days, and that she is going to set me up an appt with the surgeon at our area cancer hospital. I am a firm believer that information is power and feel so helpless that I do not have much information yet. I've been reading through many of the inspirational stories on the site and already know how fortunate I am to have found you all.
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Hi demarie
Time will lessen your fears and scares. This bc thing could be seen as a big challenge in life that many long term survivors have shown could be overcome. Stay strong and positive and try to be full of hope for future. You're in my thoughts and prayers .
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Hi demarie,
We are so sorry to hear about your diagnosis but we are glad you found us and want to welcome you at our BCO community. The first days are very scary because there is so much unknown. Hopefully, once you learn more about the cancer and the treatment options you will start feeling a bit more in control of the situation. You are not alone we are all here for you. Please keep us posted.
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I am sure you are right hanTagh, I am just the type of person who likes to be in control of things and this is a curve I wasn't expecting. I have absolutely no family history. I do not even know a person who has been through it. I suppose I should feel blessed to be able to say both of those things, which I do but it also makes me feel quite alone in it. I am so glad I found this group/community of people to share with. Thank you again for your support now and in the rest of my detour
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demarie- that one sentence certainly does rock your world. I'm so glad you found us here. This is a safe place, there is no judgement, and is a great source of facts to arm yourself with as the information starts to trickle in. Knowledge is power. Make sure to get copies of your reports, pathology, procedures, surgeries, anything you go through. It is your information and you own it. You sound like the type that will get to know it backwards and forwards.
There is an avalanche of information. Before I was dxd with no family history, I knew less than nothing. I had to get up to speed fast. Everyone has a slightly different situation, but you will find people with lots in common as you move from step to step.
Sending you support and hugs. Try to "breathe" and realize your ability to stay as calm as possible will help you. Clear headedness is essential to decision making that is unfortunately coming your way.
Stick close. There will always be someone here
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I remember getting that call back in June and all the emotions that came with it. Those first days were truly the hardest. I have now been through a lumpectomy/sentinel node biopsy and just finished my radiation treatment and will be starting hormone therapy. There are so many advances in breast cancer treatment today. Try to not let not your thoughts overwhelm you and I know that is easier said than done. been there done that. Once you have more information and a treatment plan in place you will feel more in control. Just remember one day at a time. You will get through this.
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I remember those first in shock feelings. The first thing I thought of when I woke up in the mornings and the last thought before I went to sleep. It's easy to freak out, which I did at times. I agree on taking deep breaths. There is much to read and learn on these boards .. and there are so many of them .. hang in there .. there are many kind ladies here who are very knowledgable.
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If it were me, I would call back and ask more about the path report. What type of cancer, how big, ER, PR and HER + or -? I guess I was lucky that I was told immediately so I came on here and researched what it all meant. It kept me busy and my emotions a little more in check.
We are here to help you.
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I am sure the NP had good intentions by giving me the info she had at the time. Since then she has been on vacation but another gal has called me back today as more info has trickled in (her words not mine) IDC stage 2 grade 3. I have my apt with the surgeon tomorrow but I am still very confused. I have had my biopsy but no MRI or CT so I don't know if I should believe the stage she has told me. Can they tell this from just a biopsy, mamo & us? Please help
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it would be highly unlikely to stage before surgery or some kind of lymph node biopsy. Grade yes. Hormone receptor status yes. Grade I don't think so but you really need to have your own copy of the pathology report. They have to give it to you. And it sounds like you really need it now. Not later. For peace of mind.
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Thank you for confirming what I already thought. I am getting copies tomorrow. Quite the learning experience
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Yes it is. I saved this as a favorite thread so I'll see your questions right away. You're not alone in this.
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I was staged without surgery. MRI gave a better idea and then a second biopsy to confirm it had spread to the lymph node. My surgeon apologized for the additional biopsy, which pushed the chemo start date back a week, because they wanted to get it properly staged before starting chemo.
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I do not believe they biopsied the nodes so I will get the whole thing straight tomorrow when I see the surgeon.
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Hi
I too was newly diagnosed November 4th. I understand how you feel. I as informed I have IDC but the stage was not provided. I am confused and overwhelmed. I am visiting three hospitals within the next week to determine which is the best for me. I was always a healthy person and no bc history in my family. I m researching to the point of a headache to try to hold on to some type of control.
This is going to be my hardest fight I know it but I have to push through it
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Edge- just reaching out to say I'm so sorry you had the need to find this place, the club no one wants to be a member of.
I hope your hospital visits are fruitful. Most everyone reports back that after dx everything is overwhelming. It is. Once you get a plan in place, most people start to feel a bit better. Hugs.
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Edge20638, exactly as Jackbirdie says, everyone is very overwhelmed in the beginning, until a treatment team and plan is selected. We're very sorry that you are here, but happy you found this great group of people! We're here for you!
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Edge20638 So sorry to hear your diagnosis, Hugs and prayers to you. I am only a small step ahead of you in my journey but please believe me that this group is exactly where you need to be. I have never been one to join online groups before this, but this has helped get my feelings and fears out of my head and give me the strength to move on to the next step.
Jackbirdie thank you for your words of encouragement, they do mean a great deal coming from someone who has been down this road.
I now have a little more information, and as many of you have stated, a peace and acceptance settles in as you prepare for the next leg of the journey. I am little frustrated, as I had my biopsy done at a small hospital and the ER/PR HER were not included on the pathology sent to my surgeon. My BS contacted the hospital 3 times during my appointment to get these results, but to no avail we still did not have them at the end of my appointment, before I left I was told not to worry, they would get them and get back with me in the next day or she would retest immediately. I now understand that the reason for stage 2 without surgery or mri, my BS explained that this was because of the tumor size alone, and may change as we learn more. The lack of complete information of course has now left me with many new questions, as far as a treatment plan. Glad that there is an up side, I finally slept 7 hours last night (the first full night since that awful phone call) and feeling refreshed and ready to fight this.
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Demarie- so glad you got a little more info from your BS. Hoping they can retrieve or retest soon and fill in the rest of the picture for you. Really glad to hear you slept. You need your sleep. Don't be afraid to ask for something to help with that if you need it.
Keeping you in my thoughts and sending a warm hug.
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Edge, please keep us posted on your journey as well!
Demarie -- glad you got some sleep! Let us know as you find out more...
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sWeetie once plan in place things will calm down we are here for u for support and we can say "we know how u feel" hang in there.msphil(idc stage2 0\3 nodes Lmast chemo rads 5yrs on tamoxifen). Praise God i am a 21yr Survivor
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The hardest thing for me to do was give up control. Trust me, it will be the smartest decision that you'll make. Let your doctor's, family and friends help you through this. It's okay of learn more about your cancer and treatment options but focus on staying positive and try to be patient with this process. I'm a doer so the waiting has been difficult or me. I've had to put my trust in others and know that it will be fine. Read, meditate, pray, talk, or do whatever will help you to be calm. Find the best doctors that you can and ask lots of questions. Find out what additional testing you'll need and them scheduled.
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Hi there! I am 43 and had my biopsy on the same day as yours. Positive for breast cancer as well. I met with my team yesterday here in Chicago and everyone is right..you do start to feel a bit better once you get more information. I have a triple negative, early stage tumor and will be starting chemo right away with surgery to follow. I am thankful that I went in for my annual routine mammogram in October regardless of they are saying about them at our age. Stay strong and we will do this together!
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HI All, I am 56 and was diagnosed with Stage 1 IDC Breast Cancer last month. I have been to all of the doctors , had all of the tests and now it is time to make a decision and I am at a loss on what to do?? I sure could use some advise/information to help me make my decision. I have a chose between a lumpectomy/sentinel node biopsy or a double Mastectomy and yesterday I saw the final two doctors which was a Radiation Oncologist and Plastic Surgeon. Deep down inside I have always felt that I would get this news one day and it is because I watched my mother at age 50 get diagnosed with breast cancer and then 2 years later it spread to her lungs and she had a lung removed and then in 11/96 she was told she was cancer free and died in 02/97 full of cancer!!. That was 3 months!!!. My Great Grandmother also had Breast Cancer. I watched my mother take her last breath and I cannot express to you my feelings, I was very close to her , I numbed my pain with Drugs for about 10 years during which time i was raising two kids and had a husband. Just only recently I feel that I can finally move on and then this !! I would not even get a mammogram for about 10 years after she died because I was so afraid of getting it. I am so so afraid of getting it again if I have a Lumpectomy and the IORT Radiation at time of surgery. When the doctor was discussing my options she felt I would be a great candidate for this but yesterday I was informed that it is still in a Clinical Trial Stage and I would have to join the trial if I want to proceed with this? I also had Genetic Testing done and was Negative for BRAC 1 and 2 and waiting on the other 13 panels to come back. I truly believe in my heart that my cancer is hereditary and our family is one of many unknown hereditary genes.
My older sister is driving me completely crazy , she is like a dog with a bone and is telling me that they are not telling me everything I need to know about my survior rate and wants me to get a mastecomy. This is also making it harder for me as she is texting me day and night since I finally told her i was not going keep taking her calls because all we do is get in an argument and the last time I spoke with her which was yesterday I told her that whatever my decision is she MUST SUPPORT IT AND THAT IS THAT!! I know my sister and she will never support my decision if it is not for a mastecomy.
If there is someone out there that has gone thru this , seen someone else and can enlighten me with their opinions and facts please please reply back
Debbie
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Hi Demarie,
I can totally relate to what you are going thru!!. You are going to have Options and decisions to make and it is scary!!. I would for sure get a 2nd opinion from another doctor because you cannot be to careful with making decisions that are life and death decisions. I have been to two surgerons, I went with my 2nd opinion doctor because she is a woman and I can relate to her better, I have had a breast and lymphnode biopsy, genetic testing, an MRI, an Ultrasound, I have seen a Radiation Oncologist and a Plastic Surgeron all of these since I was diagnosed on 10/07/15. Everything seems to go so fast and that makes me nervous. do you have a family history?? because that is also a deciding factor for you to think about. I told the doctor I would make my decision by Monday and I still do not know what I am going to do. The two options are so different,
one is totally invasive, will have probably three surgeries including reconstructive surgery and recovery will take much longer. but after that I no more mammograms and not as much worry for reoccurance. The other one is an out patient surgery with a clinial trial radiation therapy , which involves several visits to the research team and continue with mammograms and I will ALWAYS have fear !!!
Debbie
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Debbie- first of all, I am very sorry for your family losses. Undoubtedly, going through all of that has cast an enormously scary pall over your own diagnosis. And yes, you must insist your family support whatever informed decision you make. As you proceed through this dangerous terrain, you will find sometimes the people you expect to support you the most and the best fall short of the ideal- they are scared and less informed than you, but that's no excuse. It just is. You can always find correct info in the articles here on bco and non judge mental support. Stay off Dr. Google.
I made the decision you are making a year ago. It was very hard, but I'm happy with what I did. I continued to second guess myself a bit even after, because I felt strongly I wanted it out if my body before year end, so opted quickly for BMX.
From everything I've read, (and my doctors told me the same) the morbidity rates for LX + rads (and make sure they do an Oncotype dx test if your biopsy results show ER+ receptors. It should be on your biopsy pathology report) is very close to a BMX with no rads. Every situation and person is different though. I had reasons for not wanting to do rads. But my Oncotype dx was on the high side, so even though my tumor was reasonably small, they got clean margins and there was no node involvement, chemo was recommended, which I did, and I'm now on Tamoxifen for at least 5 years.
At the end of the day, the difference is if you do LX you will continue to have mammograms and biopsies, possibly more often than before. But you will have your breasts. One needs to think carefully about that. Yes if you do BMX you can opt for recon, but it's never easy, and you can expect at least a couple more surgeries, and you will most likely lose feeling in the reconstructed breasts which can affect sexual gratification. You could get a new primary tumor, but given current treatment/dx protocols, they say they would catch it early, and you would be presented with some treatment options again.
In a BMX scenario, with no recon, like I did, there is no ongoing scanning. They would do manual checkups and follow up on anything suspiscous in the chest or underarm area. Less likelihood of recurrence, less invasive diagnostics, less worry. But not necessarily a longer life. But for some people, they would consider this a better quality of life. It's very personal. Either way your life expectancy, strictly according to the numbers, would be about the same. So you can take some if the fear out of your decision.
Wishing you the very best in your decision. Inform yourself the best you can, then follow your gut.
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Why do weekends seem to go by so fast when everything is normal, but when you are waiting for Monday results they seem to take forever.
clevelai what you suggested about letting others take care of things is exactly what I've been doing now. Just keeping myself busy, went back to work Saturday (I've been on a week of vacation to mentally sort things through) Getting back into my everyday routine has helped a lot. It is still hard at night, I'm sure I am not alone. I have always been the first one up in the house usually 2-3 hours before anyone. This has always been my alone time. That time seems to be my worst enemy right now.
Angtee15 Sorry to hear about your dx, this just sucks at our age. My husband and I just moved a year ago into a new house, dream location but the house need a bit of updating. Our plan was to buy it now and get the updates done before we retire. Talked it over for a year and finally decide to take the leap. Funny how you can line up all your little ducks in a row then life can just throw a bowling ball at them and scatter them all over. Feel free to pm me if you just want to talk, you are NOT alone in this.
Zaborowski So sorry to hear about your dx and about your mother, I lost my father to cancer, although it was not bc. It is still something that always was able to creep in and haunt my dreams. I have always been a matter of fact type of person and if it was my sister I would probably tell her that when she has cancer the choice would be hers to make. Right now this is all about me and what I can live with. It sounds like you did exactly what I would have done, never feel bad about it. Don't let her pressure you into making the decision she wants, do your research and make the decision based on what YOU want. I do not plan on having a second opinion. I am very comfortable with my bs. She is at our area cancer center (MD Anderson affiliated) and a bc survivor herself. I instantly felt comfortable around her and for me that is very important. I am also undecided on surgery, so many things to weigh. Recovery time, future surgeries, chance of it returning, survival rates. Oh the options. Take care and stay in touch
I did have my first "ignorant" comment yesterday. My dear sister-in-law called last night to ask how my first day back at work went. I then replied that I was tired but it was nice to have normalcy. Her response was "See you are going to be fine, just keep on working" I was speechless for a sec and then told her Sweetie, this isn't like a cold that you can just work through. I am still sick and need treatment to get better. So glad I nipped that one when I did. She apologized and we went back to normal conversations. Later she called me and apologized again and said she is just scared for me and never meant that I could magically get better through working. Our relationship has survived and probably has improved some now.
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Zaborowski: I am so sorry about your mom and ugh on your sister pressuring you. That makes me mad. There are some threads about making the decision between mx and lx. Can you tell us your stats? How large is your tumor and what are the characteristics, grade, etc?
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Mods, any chance you can split Zaborowski's post (and the replies to it) from this thread and merge them with the thread she started later, which is "here?" There are replies in both places...
Description here is easier to read than the initial post there, and it would probably be nice for Debbie to have it all together in the same thread.
Hope that's possible. Thanks!
LisaAlissa
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LisaAlissa, we're sorry but that's not possible for us. If members want, they can copy their post here, paste it in the other thread, and then come back here and delete it, so the post is not duplicated. Makes sense? Let us know if you need help with that.
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