Starting Chemo in October 2015

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  • MamaBexar
    MamaBexar Member Posts: 102
    edited November 2015

    I have chemo on Thurs, Just did #5 this week. I am only getting Taxol weekly with Herceptine every 3rd week which I guess explains why I am not having much in side effects. I am having the fatigue factor however. It is about the same type of fatigue I had with a RA flare but more predictable. Pretty much Sat. for sure.

  • Kimmer33
    Kimmer33 Member Posts: 386
    edited November 2015

    Igay1ord i am super tired but have so much trouble napping during the day - and when i am lucky enough to nap 10 mins i dont feel rested. Ugh

  • Andraxo
    Andraxo Member Posts: 410
    edited November 2015

    Petula - I'm also on a Tuesday chemo schedule (though going to Monday next round, and maybe 3 days early to Friday for the one after that trying to salvage an international vacation). Days 3-6 were the worst round one mostly due to Neulasta. I swear the Neulasta was trying to kill me!

    I didn't get Neulasta this week/round 2 (because of hives, itching and difficulty breathing 2 weeks after it last time) and I am worried about it. Yesterday and today feeling icky (headache, tired, bad taste in my mouth) but not nearly as bad as last round. Ran 6 miles yesterday and just hiked for 3 hours (8-9 miles) today. Felt very crappy before the hike, but I know to push myself into it because exercise always makes me feel better. Expecting major fatigue to hit soon when my blood cells are gone on days 7-10ish without Neulasta.

    Really bad sleep this round - meaning almost no sleep and the few minutes I get are bad dreams. I slept great round 1. They doubled my steroids this round so likely the reason why.

    Keep fighting everyone! Keep kicking ass!

    Xoxo

  • homeschool4us
    homeschool4us Member Posts: 255
    edited November 2015

    Mamabexar, hearing that about weekly taxol makes me so happy! I can't wait to be done with AC and move on to it.

  • DurhamGirl
    DurhamGirl Member Posts: 100
    edited November 2015

    I've been lurking a bit lately, trying to enjoy feeling mostly OK since TCH-P treatment #2 on Tuesday. But today the big D hit...I've been dreading it since it was so horrible and unmanageable last cycle, and I ended up in the hospital for 3 nights with a GI infection. I think I have some PTSD from last cycle. I'm so afraid of the diarrhea now and am worried that I won't be able to leave my house this week. I took Imodium right away and am trying some Zofran both for general queasiness and hoping that it's propensity to cause constipation may work in my favor now. Ugh...everything else has been manageable up to now, but the diarrhea scares me so much.

  • AmyBeader
    AmyBeader Member Posts: 90
    edited November 2015

    Andra I must follow your example and exercise! I know it will make me feel better, it's just so hard to get going when you feel like crap. I hope your sleep gets better-I bet the steroids are to blame. Hope your counts are good this week!

    DurhamGirl I hope you can avoid the hospital this round. I hate the diarrhea too-am hoping the Bentyl will keep it in check this time along with the Imodium. :|

    I am so ready for the Neulasta pain to end!!


  • Petula
    Petula Member Posts: 33
    edited November 2015

    Hello my wonderful sisters,

    Thank you each and every one for responding and offering 'light at the end of the tunnel'. I feel a teensy bit better today but no where near normal. Today is first day no anti-nausea meds although I am nauseous - about the same feeling as with the meds so this is a positive. Body aches and tongue issues persist but I'm not crying like I was the last 2 days so am greatful for any/all blessings. My Oncotype score was 35 and the chemo only reduces recurrence risk about 8%. Such a small number. Anyone have second thoughts after they started?

    Wishing you all a blessed Sunday😍😍😍

  • MamaBexar
    MamaBexar Member Posts: 102
    edited November 2015

    Petula, I really believe you can do this. Granted, it is inconvenient, time consuming, expensive and just plain painful but you will meet the nicest people and discover the amasing kindness of strangers.

  • Skittlegirl
    Skittlegirl Member Posts: 428
    edited November 2015

    I had a hard time the days leading up to infusion #2. It was hard knowing how it would make me feel and being only the second infusion of a 6 round series, I knew it was still early in the chemo journey. But just keeping in mind that I just needed to get through it helped. My surgeon was also good about trying to get me to see the positive (I had a follow-up with him the day before). My support group also had a meeting that night, so going out with them was a nice reward for another round done.

  • mustlovepoodles
    mustlovepoodles Member Posts: 2,825
    edited November 2015

    To those who are having so much trouble sleeping--have any of your doctors offered you anything to help you sleep? My MO gave me a Rx for Ativan; It's a good med to help with nausea, but it's main side effect is drowsiness. I take it 3-4 times a week, those nights that I know I'm wound up. I have a sleep disorder anyway (from working 25 years of night shift) and sometimes have panicky episodes about going to sleep. My brain will start roaring and next thing you know I'm in a full-blown panic: "I'm not sleeping, I need to go to sleep. What if I can't sleep? Oh, God! What if I don't get to sleep. OMG, I'm not sleeeeeeping...." It just goes in an endless loop, really awful. I take several meds that help with sleep, but on those bad nights if I don't take Ativan or Xanax I'm toast.

  • DurhamGirl
    DurhamGirl Member Posts: 100
    edited November 2015

    mustlovepoodles--I got a prescription for Ativan right when I was diagnosed--I knew I would need it to manage all the excruciating waiting and anxiety that came along with it. I also have Ambien, but lately I have just been taking the Ativan at night because it makes me drowsy and it helps with queasiness/nausea. I really don't love taking Ambien--not quite sure why--but the Ativan seems to work for me. I hope you get some good sleep soon...it's so hard to be sleep-deprived on top of everything else.

  • Andraxo
    Andraxo Member Posts: 410
    edited November 2015

    I've been taking melatonin (5mg) to sleep for the past 3 years. It usually works great...I'll usually fall asleep 20-30 min after taking it. Without it, I don't sleep more than 2-3 hrs due to 'busy brain' (been that way since a divorce that crushed me in 2012). Maybe I need to increase my dose when on steroids. It worked great/as usual first round, but with double steroids it did nothing. When I get chemo I'm also staying someplace else for the week (5 hrs from my own home/bed) so that is also a factor. I have Ambien, but I won't take it (took it once years ago and didn't like how I felt in the morning...maybe I need to give it another chance just with chemo).

    Amy - I never know my blood counts in between chemos. I've only had labs done immediately before each chemo. Is everyone getting weekly labs? I guess if I am feeling crappy enough this coming week I can ask for a lab draw at the hospital I work at.

    Exercise definitely makes a difference for everything. Even when feeling crappy I know I'll feel better if I exercise. We'll see if that still holds true when my hemoglobin tanks in a few days.

    Skittlegirl - we are 1/3 done our 6 rounds of TC!! yay! Count it down....

    Good night everyone! wishing you all peaceful sleep tonight!

    xo



  • Skittlegirl
    Skittlegirl Member Posts: 428
    edited November 2015

    I only have labs the morning of infusion. I did have labs the week after my first infusion but after that it's been just the morning of.

    Wednesday is infusion #3 for me. So halfway point, yay! I have a support group meeting that night and some of them might pop down during infusion to say hi. Since it's Veteran's Day DH will be busy with our kids that day. Our oldest two are going to a play date at my co-worker's house for a couple hours to give him a break. Otherwise that'd be kinda mean to leave him alone with the kids pretty much all day and night.

  • Jclc83
    Jclc83 Member Posts: 246
    edited November 2015

    I was prescribed Trazadone to sleep. I have zero side effects from it.

    I have labs drawn before infusion and also a week later to make sure the Neulasta is doing it's job. And it's allposted on "My Chart" an app where I can access all my results including biopsies, surgeries and labs and keep track of my appointments as well as the mounting bills. But I'm glad I have it and can refer to it anytime.


  • igay1ord
    igay1ord Member Posts: 193
    edited November 2015

    I have labs taken every week, whether I have a treatment or not. My MO, Dr. Goldklang, takes so much blood from me each week that I'm surprised I have any left! I made a comment to my husband the other day that I'm so tired of going to the doc's office, and even one of the male nurses said they ought to start charging me rent! But then again, look at the alternative! At least I know he hasn't forgotten who I am in between visits.

  • Petula
    Petula Member Posts: 33
    edited November 2015

    Thank you Mama & Skittlegirl,

    Last night was another tough night. Body aches and pain resumed as well as diarrhea. I was hoping to be on the mend but not so sure now. Next Chemo is 2 days before Thanksgiving. Just want to feel okay on that day.

    Did the muscle aches & pains come and go? I'm taking Alleve, but it's not really doing the job. I stopped the Claritan 2 days after Neulasta shot. Thinking I may add back in again.

    Thoughts?

    Petula


  • MamaBexar
    MamaBexar Member Posts: 102
    edited November 2015

    I too have had serious sleep problems for years. I am finding a combination of 5 mg. melatonin and 25 mg. of Benadryl help a lot. I insist on no steroids. I LITERLY can not sleep for 48 hrs. with a single dose. My MO encouraged me to continue my probiotics and I have had very little G.I. problems. I am having leg cramps at night.

  • homeschool4us
    homeschool4us Member Posts: 255
    edited November 2015

    I think I'm going.to start out trying the melatonin.

    I also only have labs drawn an hour before my next treatment. They only want to make sure I'm ok to do the treatment that day. Otherwise, I go 2 weeks between any appts at all right now. When I start Taxol it will be weekly labs right before my infusion that day.

  • homeschool4us
    homeschool4us Member Posts: 255
    edited November 2015

    Petula, I have had 2 rounds of AC and this time the aches and pains defintely came and went often. I developed a low 99 sonething fever each time though so I don't know if I kept getting infections and fighting them off or what.


    Ladies, I have to say, today......I feel like a normal person. Seriously. It's the first time since I was diagnosed that I have felt this way. At the beginning I was dealing with morning sickness, then surgery and recovery, the recovering from the miscarriage and first round of AC.

    Today, I feel like a bald normal person. Even if it's just this one day, I'll take it.

    Edited to add I am on day 12 post round 2 of AC.

  • Andraxo
    Andraxo Member Posts: 410
    edited November 2015

    Hooray Homeschool!! :) You had so much going on early and are now settling into the chemo cycle. I hope you get soooooo many more "normal" days like this!

    If you try melatonin, really be ready for bed/getting into bed. Don't take it and be up and about doing things around the house or using any electronics or you'll likely just override it and not feel anything. I take a hot shower, melatonin, and get in bed. If I read, the book usually smacks me in the face as I am fading off....then it's lights out!

  • Petula
    Petula Member Posts: 33
    edited November 2015

    I'm so Happy to hear that you feel like a normal person. If I could do a cartwheel I would. 🙃 Today I went and picked up my interim wig and got to visit with 3 bc survivors. It meant so much and gave me that 'boost' I need to get on with things. When others tell you you can you believe it and when I hear that one can feel 'normal' even for a day it's music to my ears!!!

    I hope things continue on a positive note home school4😃😃😃

    Petula

  • ncsue927
    ncsue927 Member Posts: 57
    edited November 2015

    I'm glad to hear that others are having a day of feeling normal, too! This is the first day in awhile that I have felt anywhere near normal. I had such a terrible sore mouth for the past week that I could barely eat, drink or talk. All due to low white count. Apparently my body's response to the AC is to drop my WBC in the gutter. So I get labs a week after treatment, based on that I get a neupogen shot, labs again in two days, more neupogen if needed, labs in two days, etc. That way we can monitor my WBC to be sure I will be able to be my next treatment. Once my white count got back to normal, the sore mouth cleared up. I felt so good today, I had Chili's ribs and fries for lunch!! Tomorrow is number 4 of 6! I will be on the down side! We take our small victories as we can!

  • biscuits
    biscuits Member Posts: 3,304
    edited November 2015

    Ladies, It is so good to read some positives this evening.

    homeschool: isn't it wonderful to feel like your own self...whether it is a day or a few days, it makes you feel like you can walk on water! This past week has been so good for me and now it's time to go for round 2, tomorrow. I just think of going through it all over again and then I tell myself that it's another one under the belt and it will be half done.

    ncsue927: the mouth sores and tongue burning was the worst side effect for me, I think. It hung on for a week, but the Magic Mouthwash really helped. It even extended outside the mouth to the corners of the mouth and I had to have a special cream for that.

    I hadn't read on any posts about anyone dealing with any nasal discomforts? I got sores in my nose and have a couple nosebleeds a day and wondered if anyone else is experiencing this?

  • El_Tigre
    El_Tigre Member Posts: 520
    edited November 2015

    hey all

    I usually post on sept chemo but thought I'd spread the word. I know we dislike nuelasta but. ...

    I just found out about this new contraption that administers the nuelasta shot away from the docs office. I just tried it and aside from my dog running away from me while I beeped, like I was going to blow up, it worked out great.

    It's the shape of a beetle like 4 inches long maybe and it sticks to your tummy or the back of the arm. It does hurt taking the adhesive off but be glad we're not hair belly men.

    They attach it on chemo day and make sure it is functioning.

    I wish I knew about it sooner, just found out. I guess it costs the same to.

    Just in case anyone wants to save a trip to the doc.

    Have a great night

  • homeschool4us
    homeschool4us Member Posts: 255
    edited November 2015

    El Tigre, I have had the on body injector for both of my treatments. I agree, it's great. I get my treatments at University of Michigan which is a huge teaching and research hospital and they only started using them 3 months ago. I was surprised! Now, I see the commercial for the on body injector all the time on tv. They told me at the hospital that the on body injector is cheaper than doing your own shots, which I have only heard of a few people doing.

  • El_Tigre
    El_Tigre Member Posts: 520
    edited November 2015

    yes much easier than giving yourself shots. Gave myself shots for fertility. It does suck

    OHSU only started a few months ago as well.

    Yeah for technology!

  • twiggyOR
    twiggyOR Member Posts: 270
    edited November 2015

    I'm usually on the September board also but I follow here also.

    Biscuits, nasal side effects are very bothersome for me. My nose runs all the time but feels dry and cracked on the inside. There is blood on my tissue almost every time I wipe my nose. Once or twice a day it bleeds a little heavier but nothing major. I have tried vasoline and nasal gel in my nose but it doesn't seem to help much.

  • Skittlegirl
    Skittlegirl Member Posts: 428
    edited November 2015

    I usually have daily nosebleeds for the first 2 weeks following infusion. My MO said it's fine as long as I am not gushing blood.

    DH and I took a trip over the mountains to meet with a plastic surgeon today. He answered some of my questions and said reconstruction would be 6 months after radiation, so probably around this time next year.

  • homeschool4us
    homeschool4us Member Posts: 255
    edited November 2015

    Skittlegirl, mine said 6 months after radiation also. I'm not sure I want to think about another major surgery yet! I may want a good long time of nothing before I do anything more to myself. Of course there is still a good chance I am stage 4 and that may change everything anyway. 😕

  • rosepainter
    rosepainter Member Posts: 3
    edited November 2015


    Biscuits:

    I have the nasal sores that you talk about.  I mentioned it to the doctor last time I saw him because I wake up every morning with a nose bleed.  He told me to put Vaseline or Triple Antibiotic cream in my nose before I go to bed.  That seems to help.  (I have talked to other chemo patients that had the same problems.)

    Hope that helps.























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