Hi, using only natural treatments, am done with Western path

I love hearing about that lady in the UK JerseyGirl. I read that article too. She has inspired me. Such little things can make one feel so much better. And Wrenn, Andrew is one of my heroes. Such a smart laid-back guy.

i take Webber natural curcumin with meriva from costco. The webber site has some good info.

This post resonated so much with me. I am willing to do the surgery business and radiation...but the Tamoxifen just feels wrong, wrong, wrong for me.

I haven't heard of Turkey Tail. Some of the supplements - like mushrooms, have turned up in my research, but I now have a ton of supplements to take. I'm going to have to comb through this more thoroughly.

There may be better out there, but this is the best we have found. I am all ears for a better form!

I will have to ask my RO, but I was under the impression that at least during radiation (and for those who receive it), killing cancer cells via oxidation is the goal, and that taking any kind of antioxidant defeats the purpose by protecting not just normal cells but also cancer cells from the free radicals that promote oxidation). My MO told me it is not necessary to avoid dietary sources of antioxidants (in normal amounts present in prudent portions of foods containing them) but to avoid taking antioxidant supplements during radiation--including fish oil, alpha-lipoic acid, resveratrol and co-Q-10. I can, however, see the point of taking anti-inflammatories to ameliorate the joint and muscle symptoms caused by estrogen deficiency. Are piperine, curcumin, maitake mushrooms and turkey tail antioxidants or are they anti-inflammatories? Are there any gastric or cardiovascular side effects?

Frill, I have to agree with you here... No matter what way I look at it, Tamoxifen feels wrong. italychick, I've seen the Life Extension brand and wondered.... I may try it, after I'm done chemo and the Dr. Danielle's Curcumin that a friend sent to me. Thanks for being out here ladies!

Wendy03: When I was first diagnosed with LCIS 6 months ago, my hideous first dr suggested it. I asked what it did and he said, "It immediately sends you into menopause." I spat back, "So you want to dry me up on your clock?"

This may seem new agey, but in my 20s I was really into Dianic Wicca, which honors the three phases of a woman's life. To be yanked from one and thrown into another feels very wrong for me and - wow, it's been a long time since I said something like this- but it feels like a patriarchal solution.

Some sisters here have told me their stories, saying that they didn't have bad side effects. The first evil dr said it would age me 20 years, kill my sex drive, weight gain......

Once when I was overweight I tested high cholesterol. The immediate solution- pills. I decided to lose weight and guess what, it returned to normal.

Yes, this is different but.....I'm sorry I just started having those multiple orgasms I'd been hearing about. I don't want to give things like that up passively

Lol so that's tamx rant number 234,543.

I use Smokey Mountains Naturals brand. I order from Amazon. They have several brands of DIM available. I've read tons of books since being diagnosed. Some of my favorites in terms of addressing diet/exercise are: Anti Cancer A New Way of Life by David Servan-Schreiber and
The Whole-Food Guide for Breast Cancer Surviviors.

Not surprised to hear that tamoxifen depletes serotonin, as SSRI (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors) and SNRIs (same, but norepinephrine instead of serotonin) inhibit the enzyme pathway by which tamoxifen occupies a tumor’s estrogen receptors. That sucks big time, because if anything is going to aggravate or trigger latent clinical depression, it’s learning you’ve been diagnosed with cancer. Those antidepressants don’t interfere with aromatase inhibitors, though. We postmenopausal sisters here who also have (or are in remission from or well-controlling) clinical depression are luckier in that regard, although some of our SEs from AIs might be less tolerable to us. As they say in the car-ad biz, your mileage may vary.

I’d still like to know, though, whether natural anti-inflammatories such as curcumin, turmeric, piperine, DIM, etc. are contraindicated during radiation in the same way antioxidants are. And if so, how soon after radiation has been completed is it permissible to take them?

Wendy3 Thank you. I told my bf about that and he snorted, "So you'll look your age. Fine." I hate sounding so shallow. I grew up the tall, skinny, ugly, picked-last-in-gym-class girl with glasses to boot lol. But then I stayed looking the same. And now I get that taken away plus the only thing I ever liked physically....ok, no whining. Too early for whining. Hospital days make me whiny.

CBDs are cannabindiol some of around 85 found in the hemp plant. I take three capsules daily as well as the marajuana oil at night. Frill have you tried the egg timer and hing works for crying and temper flare ups. Once it rings I try and get my self under control and continue with my stuff.mi am 6'1" and was always the last picked for everything I get where you are coming from. I figured hey I'm gonna be a cool fit hippy old lady who still looks pretty good. Now that has all changed...at least my husband still loves me yeah for that. 

Have a grea day ladies 

Wendy

Wendy, where do you get the CBDS? They are aging you but shrinking the tumor? Or is that tge tamoxifen How much oil do you take?

"Palliative care" means relief of symptoms rather than with the aim of achieving a “cure.” Suggesting it is NOT the same as recommending hospice or telling a patient to “go home and die.” Basically, once cancer gets to Stage IV doctors stop using the term “cure,” but very-long-term remissions can be achieved. A friend of mine who was Stage IV for TWELVE years told me that the palliative care she was receiving was to control the cancer and improve quality of life. She said managing it was like periodically putting the lid on or adjusting the flame beneath a simmering pot to keep it from flaring up and boiling over. It’s up to the individual patient how much faith she has in allopathic vs. alternative medicine to keep the mets at bay and ameliorate symptoms. It’s a very personal decision--and what I think Bluepearl was addressing was those well-known alternative practitioners who are motivated as much by profit as are allopathic doctors and pharma companies. Not naming names, but we all know who they are, and they are every bit as cruel to advanced-cancer patients as are the clueless callous bastards who tell them to abandon hope. There’s got to be a “golden mean” or sweet spot between the two.

Hi LetItRain and welcome. I'm so sorry you had to read that. I used to let posts like that upset me as well. It took a while for me to connect the dots but when I did, based on posting history and diagnosis, I realized comments like that ALWAYS come from someone who has no idea what it's like to be fighting for your life, or to be very sick. I know it's easier said than done, but please ignore those rude and hurtful comments. I sincerely hope it hasn't turned you off of posting. Lots of women are here to help and not everyone is that apathetic. The good really does outweigh the bad. Hugs to you and I hope you are doing ok.