Hi, using only natural treatments, am done with Western path

chef127,

Thanks, but you know, I've been a real outlier in this whole stage IV adventure. I had a bmx because it was thought I was stage II. (Love my recon) Within 6 weeks of that a bone met was found. No chemo, and rads to the bone met with intent to kill, as I had no pain. I was already post menopausal, so anti-hormonals were a no brainer. 4+ years from dx, I wish that I could explain why I've done so well. I understand that I'm unusual and understand equally, that things can change in a minute.

macb04, thanks for the Google suggestion. I take a mushroom powder that has turkey tail, along with a few other mushrooms, can't remember what they are all. I take other supplements as well, coq10, magnesium, d3, k2, and a host of others. Hubby and I researched until we were sick of researching to try and find the best forms of things to take. Hopefully the alternative stuff will help everything else I've gone through.

Rose50 I'm so sorry that ,that happened with your treatment. Almost the same thing happened to me was already scheduled for chemo and then they got the results that I was stage four and hormonal receptive. Apparently chemo doesn't work for those of is with this type of bc. This however afforded me some time to research my situation a bit. I understand for those of you already in treatment (chemo or radiation) that it may seem flippant and flakey to feel like taking a different path. But I don't think we need to be rude or close minded to each other. This is for all of us it's information and support and we all need that. 

Marine I have no idea how big it is I don't think very. Regular X-rays showed nothing MRI was inconclusive and the ct showed  two small spots. This is enough to give you a two year death sentence and a pat on the knee for being so understanding of the failures of the medical system. I had been telling the doctors about my "cyst" for three years. Anyway...

I wish all a pleasant peaceful pain free evening.

Rose50, I am sorry that treatment left you with alopecia and neuropathy, that well and truly sucks. My hair is thin from hormone therapy, but I would be horrified if treatment left me bald, and I wasn't warned that that could even happen. But I do have a pretty bad case of neuropathy, and nothing seems to really help, but soaking my feet in very, I mean really hot water! So hot that my feet are extremely red! And then I just really try to walk on them, even if it hurts, because it makes them feel better, when I stop walking, and put them up, with topricin liberally applied. Topricin is a homeopathic cream, and it really works for me, my boymanfriend swears it does nothing for him. But he puts on such a tiny amount! I do try and eat well, but I always did, altho I really love carbs, I am trying to cut them mostly out, it's really hard! And studying foods that fight inflammation. I take magnesium, D3, turmeric in my food, many dishes are good with it, and elderberry. I really need to try some other things to repair damage from treatment. But I knew I needed treatment. I am really struggling with the hormonals, tho- I am almost at the point where I may stop them, and just save them for if/when I progress. That's how much I hate them, that I am willing to become stage four, just to not feel those side effects...

Hi Wendy. Here's a good thread about metformin. A lot to read, but it might help you come to a decision.

https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/73/topics...

Rose, taxotere left me permanently bald as well. No warning whatsoever....and when I complained, I got a shoulder shrug.

Wendy3, that's why I'm trying the Berberine. It's a natural alternative. And it seemed to help keep my blood sugar stable all through chemo. My doctor said Metformin would push me too low and make me feel bad

Momine I stopped it after a month I didn't want to be taking so many drugs. 

I have just recently started taking CDB capsules it's been about a week and a half..I don't want to ginx anything but I feel amazing. My appetite is back my mind is clear and my energy is way up. My tumour is way down is size . I just wanted to share that with everyone I really believe there is something to this little plant that if we get by the hype it may have something to offer us.

barbiecorn, I am one of those main stream BC people who will do whatever I need to do using main stream treatments. But I absolutely respect those of you who go alternative totally or partially as your decision. I have sent newbies who were not decisive over to both the complementary and alternative threads as I feel everyone should explore. Please do not feel we main stream folks are all hostile. I guess sometimes it may come across that way when written (and, yes, sometimes people may very well be hostile but that is their problem, not yours).

I frequently browse the alternative threads as you never know what I may learn from all of you.

What are you using as natural hormone blockers please?

For those of you don´t know I refused chemo but allowed myself to be bullied in to rads and regret it, EVERY time I see the Onc I am reminded I did not have chemo and am therefore HIGH risk, hows that for hypnotic suggestion?!  I know in 50 years time chemo and rads will be seen as barbaric and counter productive treatments

if I understand correctly that indol3carbinol is the stuff wich causes cancer in processed meats

curcumin is an extract of turmeric, and allegedly has a lot of anti-inflammatory properties. Turmeric has other things in it, called tumerones, that are beneficial as well. I take curcumin and turmeric because it is hard to get enough curcumin just through turmeric.

Abigail48 lol no the stuff in meat is called nitrates a chemical preservative totally different animal this comes from broccolli. 

Both turmeric and curcumin are inheritently bad at being absorbed unless you add pepper (piperine). Either way, you can add lots of pepper if you're using turmeric in your food or buy supplements that usually contain piperine if you use curcumin supplements. Without pepper, I doubt very much it does anything. Jmho.