Starting Chemo in October 2015

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  • tessu
    tessu Member Posts: 1,564
    edited October 2015

    Jackalyn3, I had awful foot and leg pains for several days after my Neulasta shot last time. Cold packs helped

  • Barbiejo
    Barbiejo Member Posts: 1
    edited October 2015

    Just saw an oncologist at Stanford yesterday and was shocked by his spiel. I went in thinking that since I had the lumpectomy on Sept. 3rd and the path report showed the margins and the three lymph nodes involved with that area are clear, I guess I thought I was home free. I have triple negative, stage 1, tumor was 1.1 cm. I previously had DCIS stage 0 with lumpectomy in Dec. 2013 and 25 sessions of radiation in Jan-Mar 2014. I am 71 years old. The oncologist told me that radiation was not recommended because it only would take care of any additional cancer cells in the breast but that I still could have this cancer metastasize elsewhere such as the liver, bone, etc. and that if that happens, there is no cure. I should have written down the names of the chemo drugs but i think one was TC or CT and I can't remember the other but it had 3 initials. I think we have ruled out TC because it can causes peripheral nerve damage and I already have peripheral nerve pain which I can barely stand. I don't have diabetes, but my mother, her sister and my youngest sister all have this problem so it undoubtedly hereditary. I cannot stand the thought of worse pain in my feet. If I decide to go ahead with the chemo and use the 3-letter chemo, he said it is slightly less effective and is an older chemo. The good news is that Stanford tested me for 25 mutant cancer genes and I don't have any, including the BRCA 1 & 2 which is a real plus.

    Recently we have attended some health seminars and all these doctors are saying don't get radiation or chemo and we can heal our bodies by being 100% vegan - no dairy, eat nothing that has a mother, ie no eggs, meat, fish, etc. and no added oils. They swear I can heal myself, but I don't know if they know much about triple negative breast cancer.

    The oncologist told me yesterday that treatment should begin by 3 months after the surgery, so by December 3rd. To add to the dilemma, my husband just found out he has a carotid artery 90% blocked and needs to get it done immediately. The cardiologist told the surgeon that he wouldn't survive the surgery unless he gets his aortic heart valve replaced and 4 bypasses at the same time. WOW! That's scary and on top of that he is about 7 years into Parkinson's disease. He has a heart cath scheduled for next Tuesday, Oct. 27 and open heart surgery on Friday the 30th. So I don't feel that I can go ahead with any chemo, if I decide to do it, until he has recovered enough where he won't need me to take care of him. My head is swimming and I don't know what I am going to do - chemo or no chemo. If I opt for no chemo and trying to heal myself with nutrition, then I have to do it 100% - no cheating! But I am not 100% sure I can do that. What a fine kettle of fish I find myself in.

  • MomOfTwins98
    MomOfTwins98 Member Posts: 69
    edited October 2015

    I am brand new here and really struggling whether or not to have chemo. Diagnosed 9/1/15 with IDC in left breast. 1.2cm. MRI found second lump .6cm. Had lumpectomy and SNB on 9/22 and came back positive margins so had re-excision on 10/1. Developed cording in my armpit so going thru rehab to help me and got infection in breast and started leaking at incision. So, after antibiotics, healing but still struggling with arm. Stage 1, Grade 1, no nodes involved, no history, BRCA negative, ER/PR+, Her2-...all sounds good until Oncotype came back at 18. Now I do not know what to do. I had a bone scan and cat scan yesterday and awaiting those results. Confused and researched out and do not want to make a mistake. I have 17 year old twins in senior year of high school and I do not want to miss any of this with them. Had hoped Radiation and Tamoxifin would be my answer - any advice?

  • Artista928
    Artista928 Member Posts: 2,753
    edited October 2015

    ^^^^^ I would post your question on the stage 1 forum and see what others who have similar/same dx as you are doing. Good luck.

  • MomOfTwins98
    MomOfTwins98 Member Posts: 69
    edited October 2015

    Thank you - I just did that so I'll see what replies I get


  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited October 2015

    Barbiejo,

    Welcome to Breastcancer.org. We're so sorry to hear about your recent diagnosis, as well as your husband's health troubles -- you've certainly got a lot on your plate right now!

    Please keep in mind, first and foremost, that there is no scientific evidence that nutrition itself can "heal" you, though we at Breastcancer.org strongly encourage a good diet and exercise program to keep risk low and help in recovery. See the Nutrition and Exercise sections on the main Breastcancer.org site for more.

    Also, the Who Gets Chemotherapy? page may be able to help answer some questions.

    We hope this helps!

    --The Mods


  • BellaV
    BellaV Member Posts: 27
    edited October 2015

    It's been a week since first chemo and I am definitely at the nadir. Blood counts very low and low fever. Dr. ordered more blood drawn, to culture. Bloody mucus when I go to the bathroom. Yuck! I was told not to go to work tomorrow unless I wear a mask and gloves. RIIIGHT! I am not going in at all-- and risk worse.

    They said that neulasta should be kicking in. . . When?

    I wonder if they can give a bigger dose of neulasta?

  • snapdeb
    snapdeb Member Posts: 5
    edited October 2015

    Hi everyone,

    I have my chemo teach this Monday and my first chemo appt Oct 29th then Oct 30th for a shot of Neulasta. Kind of nervous about both appointments. Just wanted to give a shout out, to say hi. I'm not very good with computer and not sure how everyone puts in their Dx. I was diagnosed with stage 3c breast cancer. Had a mastectomy of right breast with sentinel node biopsy, 3 1/2 weeks later axillary lymph node dissection 13 out of 25 nodes positive and port placement. ER+/PR-, HER2-

    I will be on dose dense AC every two weeks for 4 rounds, then changing chemo drugs (Taxol I think) once a week for 12 weeks followed by radiation.


  • Kimmer33
    Kimmer33 Member Posts: 386
    edited October 2015

    hi snapdeb

    I just want to encourage you, you will do just fine, taje it one step at a time. Chemo teach answers a lot of questions and the neulasta is a good thing to have. I am heading to my 2nd chemo treatment this friday, have 2 more of AC then 4 treatments of taxol - i am on a once every 2 weeks chemo (dose dense).

    Keep us posted on how it goes on the 29th!

    Kim

  • DurhamGirl
    DurhamGirl Member Posts: 100
    edited October 2015

    Hi everyone! This diarrhea is killing me! I've done everything they said to do--BRAT diet, Imodium, lots of fluids, etc.--and I'm getting no relief. Does anyone know how long this can last? I feel like a prisoner in my own home--I never know when it will come and how far away I can be from a bathroom. (It's like that commercial...)

    DurhamGirl


  • homeschool4us
    homeschool4us Member Posts: 255
    edited October 2015

    Snapdeb, Just wanted to say Hi. We have a similar diagnoses. I am also stage 3c, I had a left single mastectomy (only the one side because I was pregnant at the time, we lost the baby at 14 weeks last week ), and axillary lymph node dissection with 17 positive lymph nodes. Though I am er negative and her2 positive. I stated ac chemo on the 16th, so today is day 7 post chemo (counting the day of as day 1). I felt sort of ok, was able.to get out and do things days 1, 2 and 3. Days 4 and 5 I felt awful. Like a terrible weak feeling. It felt like when you gave really really low blood sugar except nothing helps. I talked to the PA in my MO'S office yesterday amd she thinks we need to adjust my steroid amd see if that helps next round. I had neulasta, the in body injector on the second day amd that went really well. Days 4 and 5 I had throat, face, and back pain but it wasn't too intense. Ibuprofen helped. Day 6 I woke up feeling bad, but quickly felt better and almost back to my normal self. I still feel the residual icky amd not right feeling, but it's not bad enough to keep me from doing anything. I also took zofran and compazine every 4 hours for the first 5 days. Yesterday I didn't need anything. And I am one who gets nauseous amd vomits super super easily. Sorry for the long post, I just hope it helps you know what to expect although everyone is different. I know I was wanting to know as much info as I could as to what I might expect.

  • AmyBeader
    AmyBeader Member Posts: 90
    edited October 2015

    DurhamGirl, I had the same problem, but it was the painful cramping that did me in. I went into this with pretty well-controlled IBS, but I think the chemo killed all my good gut bacteria. Ask your ONC for Bentyl. It is an antispasmodic and I find it worked really well with the Imodium. My day 6 and 7 were horrible, but I am day 10 and feeling so much better now. I also went in for fluids which really helped as well. I hope you find relief soon.

  • DurhamGirl
    DurhamGirl Member Posts: 100
    edited October 2015

    Amy, thanks for the response! I left a message for my MO to ask about Bentyl.


  • ncsue927
    ncsue927 Member Posts: 57
    edited October 2015

    Snapdeb-My diagnosis is very similar to yours. My treatment is AC every two weeks for 6 treatments then 12 weeks of Taxol and then radiation. I went for my blood work today and my white count was .2 and I have thrush in my mouth. Fortunately, my MO works very closely with me to treat the side effects as they come up to help me feel better. I got a neupogen shot today and will get another tomorrow. So far so good, but the last neupogen shot I got made my back and hips hurt terribly. I said from the beginning that they could hit me with everything they had and I would get through it. Thank goodness for the encouragement of the people on this site. Next week I will be half way through the AC part of this. We will get through this.

  • tshire
    tshire Member Posts: 239
    edited October 2015

    Barbie, I've had two TC treatments and iced my hands and feet for each Taxotere drip. So far I have had NO neuropathy. I've actually had very few side effects so far, fortunately. For triple negative, which is a very aggressive type, I would really recommend trying this regimen, or even a platinum based regimen which has shown to be very effective treating triple negative. I'd ask your MOabout that.

    I REALLY wouldn't recommend gambling with you life, especially with triple negative. Nutrition has never been shown to cure cancer. I have always been a vegetarian literally my entire life and I still got BC at age 31. I'm a vegan now to avoid hormones in dairy, drastically cutting down on sugar, stopped drinking, and upped my exercise,but I'm also doing what my doctors recommend. Most of the issues with hormones in dairy only apply to ER+ BC anyway.

  • Jackalyn3
    Jackalyn3 Member Posts: 15
    edited October 2015

    Durhamgirl

    I work as a pharmacy technician there are prescription meds if the immodium isn't working. Ask your doctor. Good luck

  • snapdeb
    snapdeb Member Posts: 5
    edited October 2015

    Thank you homeschool4us. It is a bit nerve racking when you don't know what to expect or how many side effects I will have. I get very nauseous too so good to know you have been able to keep it under control. I had dentist appoints this week and one more Tuesday before I start chemo. I'm looking forward to my Chemo Teach appointment, it's hard not to think the worst when you have no idea what to expect.

    ncsue927

    6 Dose dense treatments and neupogen, glad you have half way done. I just looked at your DX and I'm wondering why I'm only on 4 rounds of dose dense. I see that some doctors use neupogen and some use neulasta? Wonder what the difference is.

    I'm Glad your MO is working with you to feel better. I too like the encouragement from this site and also everyones stories. It's very helpful.

    I have a 1 1/2 yr old 65 pound puppy and I'm hoping I can walk him enough to burn off some of his energy.

    Can I expect to feel the same after every chemo? For instance if I feel good days 1-3 yucky on 4-5 can I expect that for my next 3 treatments?

    Thanks so much :)



  • DurhamGirl
    DurhamGirl Member Posts: 100
    edited October 2015

    I jut spiked a fever of 100. I know they say to go to the ER if it's over 100.4, but does anyone know if it's ok to take a fever reducer or not because that would mask a dangerous fever? I left a message for the triage line it may not hear for a bit.

    Thanks

  • Kimmer33
    Kimmer33 Member Posts: 386
    edited October 2015

    i was told not to take anything - check temp again after 1 hr. Good luck

  • LivingThis
    LivingThis Member Posts: 38
    edited October 2015

    I had my port placed yesterday morning. It was a little sore today but I was able to do a gentle slow run of 2 miles by holding my arm still on the port side. The biggest challenge yesterday was not being able to drive (I had to get a ride to work). I plan to try to work with as minimal sick days as possible.

    Today I had my first round of AC. I really liked my infusion nurse, Kristen! Everything went really well. I did have a little feeling of chest heaviness during the cytoxan infusion but they did an ekg and all looked fine. I got premeds with Decadron, Aloxi and Emend. I passed on the Ativan. I took zofran a while ago and just took a compazine because I ate a normal dinner and I think it was a bit too much. Tomorrow I am going wig shopping.

    I am so relieved to finally be starting treatment. Making the decision about TC vs. AC was one of the hardest parts of the journey so far.

  • Andraxo
    Andraxo Member Posts: 410
    edited October 2015

    I broke out in hives today - day 2.5 weeks post chemo. seriously? now? It started yesterday before I left work - juts on one wrist/hand but hoped it would disappear overnight. This morning as soon as I got out of bed...BAM...Hands/wrists, knees, feet, elbows. Super itchy too. Then it hit my face/lips and throat itched - bad sign. Had to go in for meds. So weird that side effects were worse this week than last. Very frustrating. Never had hives before in my life and I'm not on any meds aside from the supplements I've been taking for weeks.

    Aside from that, I felt great today with plenty of energy. :)

    LivingThis - so glad it went well!! Keep up the exercise as best you can...it makes a big difference!

    - A

  • homeschool4us
    homeschool4us Member Posts: 255
    edited October 2015

    Day 7 post first AC and I was feeling great, but now feel yucky and dead tired despite napping. Do you think it's my blood counts getting low despite neulasta?

    I also have sores all over my tongue as swollen glands from them in my neck. Maybe that is what is causing the exhaustion?

    Also does anyone else have weird sleep now? I don't know how else to describe it except I feel like I dream too much amd it makes me more exhausted. I sleep too hard or something. I wake up feeling bad and not rested.

  • Kimmer33
    Kimmer33 Member Posts: 386
    edited October 2015

    Hi Homeschool

    I was also tired in my second week post-chemo. I tried to eat lots of protein, eat every 2 hours, and drink lots of water.

    I also had sores on my tongue with a white coating by day 4 and just rinsed with salt water and Biotene and cleared up in a day. My sleep totally changed in the second week also. No explanation and it sucks.

  • tfinn99
    tfinn99 Member Posts: 11
    edited October 2015

    I start chemo on 10/29. I'll have surgery on 10/28 to have my Port put back in. This is my 2nd time being diagnosed with breast cancer in same breast in 4 years. My chemo will consist of carboplatin and taxol, once a week for 12 weeks then on to rads. 4 weeks ago I had bilateral Masectomy with free team flap! Definitely not looking forward to this...AGAIN! Has anyone had this same regimen?


    Thank you!

  • MaineRottweilers
    MaineRottweilers Member Posts: 156
    edited October 2015

    Hard to keep up with the speed of posts! I am sure I will miss responding to someone and it will be completely by accident. I took my infusion on Thursday. My immune system recognized Herceptin and wasn't happy about it. We had to stop the drip for 30 minutes and do antihistamines and an anti inflammatory. we resumed the infusion and finished. I will need to be pretreated next time though. Otherwise it went well and was more or less routine. Was pretty painful from Kypholasty the day before but today I was able to do a three mile walk in the woods. Something I haven't been able to do since early August because the L2 fracture was cripplingly painful. It was a rugged week but that seems to be more or less behind me and other than nothing tasting great and my mouth/tongue feeling rough, I am in a really good place to end up the week. Hope everyone else is well.

  • Cherey
    Cherey Member Posts: 12
    edited October 2015

    I just wanted to shared that I started chemo Thursday - AC. Autumn121 I am curious to know how you are feeling so far. We started the same day with the same meds. The first day I felt upset stomach and headache from the anti nausea meds. Second day achy from the Leukine shot, tired, fever, one moment of really, really bad stomach pain and vomiting. Since yesterday I have been vigilant about taking anti-nausea meds because I don't want another episode like that. Today tired, upset stomach, no fever. I don't feel like eating. But I am because I need to. Really trying to stay hydrated.

  • mustlovepoodles
    mustlovepoodles Member Posts: 2,825
    edited October 2015

    Went back to work yesterday after my first chemo on Tues. Unfortunately, had to leave early due to fever of 102.6! Yes, ladies, that's a free ticket to the ER. So far, the port seems okay. They're giving large doses of strong antibiotics so at least I no longer feel like death warmed over. Hopefully I can go home tomorrow.

  • randomchance
    randomchance Member Posts: 42
    edited October 2015

    I wanted to drop in on a new group and tell you all, you can do it, and it will get better. Last year this time I was in middle of it and feeling it! 

  • homeschool4us
    homeschool4us Member Posts: 255
    edited October 2015

    Mouth sores. Help! I did the salt water and baking soda gargle every day a few times a day, but still.got the sores on my tongue amd it's soooo painful. Tried biotene and gargling with benadryl. Going to search here for other ideas. Day 9 post 1st AC.

  • SFMama
    SFMama Member Posts: 16
    edited October 2015

    I started TCHP chemo on Wednesday the 21st. First day out, I felt fantastic. Yesterday I felt flu-like. Today I feel very flu-like, lethargic, and clammy. I am cold capping so can't wash my hair until tomorrow which is driving me crazy. I have been having night sweats which is probably my least favorite SE.

    Anyway I'm just looking for encouragement that this will get better soon. The prospect of many more days, and many more cycles, of feeling this bad is overwhelming.

    I am normally very positive but not feeling it right now :).

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