Newly Diagnosed and Scared!!

Kimm992
Kimm992 Member Posts: 135

Hello!

I was just diagnosed 4 days ago with IDC Her2+.

The ultrasound results showed 7 concerning spots in my right breast only...3 of them were biopsied and came back positive for IDC (Her2+). The largest tumour is 1.7cm then they all go down in size from there.

I just had MRI, CT and Bone Scan and waiting for results.

I am concerned that because there are so many spots that the chances that it has traveled to nodes and/or other organs is high.

Is it possible to have 7 tumors and still be staged low??

Any insight is so much appreciated! My mind is going crazy waiting!


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  • Brutersmom
    Brutersmom Member Posts: 563
    edited October 2015

    So sorry. I can't answer your questions but I know how scary the waiting is. I was told because of the type of cancer I had they expected it to be in the lymph node and it was not. Try to keep busy but it is hard to focus until you know the results. You are in my prayers this is a tough time.

  • Ridley
    Ridley Member Posts: 634
    edited October 2015


    I ended up with either 8 or 11 - two pathologists reviewed and it's somewhat judgmental re how to deal with the space between the lesions. Anyway all grade 1 except a teeny spot found during my mastectomy (had lumpectomy first). No spread to nodes and a low oncotype.

    Good luck - I thought the initial waiting until getting a treatment plan was the hardest. It got better after I knew what was coming.

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited October 2015

    Dear Kimm, we're sorry to have you here, but wanted to say welcome. You are in the right place to ask, learn and vent while you wait! For more information on your particular type of cancer, see Breastcancer.org's IDC and HER2 Status sections from our main site. Hope this helps! Good luck, and let us know about your results.

    The Moderators



  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Member Posts: 2,478
    edited October 2015

    Kimm, sorry you need to be here. It is a nightmare, for sure. My very small tumor spread to the nodes & also had extranodal extension. ( Cancer bursting out & growing on the outside ). Until you have the surgery & get the patholgy report, it's a guessing game.

    I would assume that your chances are lower to have a lumpectomy with so many tumors.

    The hard part in the beginning is the waiting & the unknown. Keep busy, if you have high anxiety, ask for something. This website helps to get info & be honest.

  • Kimm992
    Kimm992 Member Posts: 135
    edited October 2015

    Thanks for all of the replies!

    So basically what I'm hearing is that the size or number of tumors really isn't an indication of whether it's spread or not.

    It's so hard to wait!! Really appreciate all of the insight

  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited October 2015

    Kimm, sorry to hear about your diagnosis. As long as your cancer remains in the breast area (which includes the axillary lymph nodes), it will be considered early stage. I had a tumor that was over 5 cm., and it had spread to one lymph node. I was Stage IIIA. It was considered "locally advanced," but not Stage IV, metastatic to the other parts of my body.

    I also tested positive for HER2. It did mean chemo, but chemo works really well on HER2 cancer because that tends to multiply quickly. Best wishes!

  • Camiblue75
    Camiblue75 Member Posts: 5
    edited October 2015

    kimm, I certainly understand what you are feeling and going through. It is so hard. When I was first diagnosed I remember physically shaking for weeks. When they did my ultrasound and biopsy they initially said I had five tumors. I was her2 positive as well. At the time of my mastectomy I actually had two tumors instead of 5. They were very close to each other with some benign cysts. That could be a possibility in your case as well. From what my doctor told me at the time, having multiple tumors does not mean that it could spread into your body any more than a single tumor. They count each tumor separately. They do not add the sizes together. In my case I had one 1.4 cm and another 1 cm tumor. Try to take it one day at a time. You will get through this

  • Camiblue75
    Camiblue75 Member Posts: 5
    edited October 2015

    kimm, i am sorry. I certainly understand what you are feeling and going through. It is so hard. When I was first diagnosed I remember physically shaking for weeks. When they did my ultrasound and biopsy they initially said I had five tumors. I was her2 positive as well. At the time of my mastectomy I actually had two tumors instead of 5. They were very close to each other with some benign cysts. That could be a possibility in your case as well. From what my doctor told me at the time, having multiple tumors does not mean that it could spread into your body any more than a single tumor. They count each tumor separately. They do not add the sizes together. In my case I had one 1.4 cm and another 1 cm tumor. Try to take it one day at a time. Sending warm thoughts your way

  • Kimm992
    Kimm992 Member Posts: 135
    edited October 2015

    Thank you!! That makes me feel better knowing that your doctor said that.

    I am trying hard not to obsess but it's not easy!!

  • Leighku
    Leighku Member Posts: 26
    edited October 2015

    I was told the same thing. I had 3 tumors and was so worried that meant my particular cancer knew how to move and grow in other spots. Doctor said they all grew separate of each other and I would be staged based on the size of the largest tumor only. He said statistically the results are the same as if it was only tumor. I was lucky that no cancer was found in 3 nodes taken during mx. He did, however, say he used the fact that I was multicentric/multifocal in determining whether or not I should do chemo. I did and it's been a year and I'd do it again if it would help more! Good luck to you as you navigate this crazy journey. You will feel better as a plan is put in place and you know exactly what you're dealing with.

  • Bippy625
    Bippy625 Member Posts: 890
    edited October 2015

    hi kimm,

    it is scary, but I too had multiples. i nearly fainted during the biopsy as they counted off, Mass 1, all thru Mass9!!!!

    multifocal and multicentric was I. not all were cancer.

    I'm a year and a few months out from dx, and feel great, am cancer free. you CAN do this. HER2 is very responsive to treatment, though it is aggressive. PM me anytime.....best wishes


    Candy

  • TikkasMom
    TikkasMom Member Posts: 83
    edited October 2015

    Hi, I too was recently diagnosed with invasive adenocarcinoma grade 1. Still waiting for HER2 & other pathology results. Will find out those results October 28.

    Wish I knew which course of action to take. So confused!!! Chemo then lumpectomy, mastectomy, ARGHHH!

  • TikkasMom
    TikkasMom Member Posts: 83
    edited October 2015

    Hi, I too was recently diagnosed with invasive adenocarcinoma grade 1. Still waiting for HER2 & other pathology results. Will find out those results October 28.

    Wish I knew which course of action to take. So confused!!! Chemo then lumpectomy, mastectomy, ARGHHH!

  • bluepearl
    bluepearl Member Posts: 961
    edited October 2015

    It is a guessing game for sure. You had 7 spots but three were cancer and still stage 1.....for now. Hard to guess whether the cancer has spread but the number of tumours isn't the main factor. I have to be honest that the Her2 indicates a more aggressive cancer that WILL respond to chemo and Herceptin well. And it is still a small tumour. Even if you have 3 nodes with cancer, still can be treated successfully. Sop can more than three nodes for that matter. In any case you will be offered chemo and Herceptn and hopefully your ER/PR status will be positive so you can take antihormonals. You WILL be obsessed for awhile...we all have been and may still be....normal. Be well and wishing you the very best!!!

  • Kimm992
    Kimm992 Member Posts: 135
    edited October 2015

    Thank you all so much for the replies. It has helped immensely to be able to come here and read responses. Will update on Monday when I get results!! Hoping for the best!!

  • Camiblue75
    Camiblue75 Member Posts: 5
    edited October 2015

    Fingers and toes crossed for you Kimm!

  • TikkasMom
    TikkasMom Member Posts: 83
    edited October 2015

    Hi, was able to get pathology results prior to appointment.

    ER+ PR+ HER- Left breast 8 mm invasive spiculated tumor (ductal adenocarcinoma)

    Anyone else have this and what treatment did you choose?

    Thanks and good luck to all here.

  • Sjacobs146
    Sjacobs146 Member Posts: 770
    edited October 2015

    TikkasMom, I had a similar diagnosis, although I was grade 2 instead of your 1. I would not say that I chose a treatment per se, I did what my doctors recommended. They did not present it to me as a choice, although I suppose that I could have chosen to not do some or all of it. In other words, my BS did not say: "which do you want, lumpectomy or mastectomy?" She said, "I recommend a lumpectomy." With the chemo, my MO said that the it was close, but the tumor board recommended Taxotere and Cytoxin, but that she wasn't going to prescribe Adriamycin because she felt it was too risky since it can cause leukemia. But she did tell me that they weren't going to handcuff me to the chair and that I could certainly choose to not do it, or to stop doing it. I know myself, and if the Cancer ever returned and I didn't do absolutely everything I could to prevent it, I would never forgive myself.

  • TikkasMom
    TikkasMom Member Posts: 83
    edited October 2015

    Thank you Sjacobs146 , I appreciate your input. Good luck.

    I see Surgeon Wednesday to review rest of biopsy results. Will keep you posted.

  • Kimm992
    Kimm992 Member Posts: 135
    edited October 2015

    Just an update!!

    I met with the oncologist today and he said that he's not able to stage my cancer exactly until they do surgery but that he says it is an "early" cancer.

    All of my scans came back clear. There is just a bit of suspicion about ONE node in my armpit but he says it's not for sure that there is cancer there. Again, we won't know until surgery. He says even if it shows cancer that it's still caught early and he says this is totally curable.

    I am relieved and ready to start this long journey.

    Starting chemo next week.

    Thank you all for the replies and support. No doubt, I will be spending lots of time around here in the coming months

  • TikkasMom
    TikkasMom Member Posts: 83
    edited October 2015

    Good luck in your journey Kimm992

  • TikkasMom
    TikkasMom Member Posts: 83
    edited October 2015

    So now big decisions ahead. Lumpectomy or double mastectomy (if insurance will allow). Family history remarkably strong. 3 generations of all women on my Mom's side. My Sisters and Cousins opted for double mastectomies for fear of getting it and they're all fine and older than me. Something to be said for preventative surgery.

    Good luck all in our journey!!!

  • dtad
    dtad Member Posts: 2,323
    edited October 2015

    Kimm992 Sorry you have to be here but welcome. I had 2 masses in the same breast. One IDC and one ILC. My doc at a major hospital in NYC told me they stageby the largest tumor. There was a time when they added them up but they found that was overkill. He also told me that multiple tumors give you a slightly higher chance of lymph node involvement. My largest tumor was 1 cm and I had no node involvement. Good luck and keep us posted....

  • otessa63
    otessa63 Member Posts: 2
    edited November 2015

    Kimm992 -- I've just been diagnosed also. I don't even having staging yet. I have another biopsy this coming Friday because on the MRI they did last week they discovered another spot. It could be a hematoma from the original CNB they performed but they have to be sure. So, I'll be waiting for more results until next week. I do know that it's IDC, but my surgeon doubts it's more than Stage 1. Of course, if this "new" area is OK, then I'm looking at a lumpectomy combined with some radiation therapy. If it's more IDC or other type, then I'm probably looking at a mastectomy. Hoping there's no lymph node involvement but of course won't know that til after surgery. It sure has been a long week and a half for me so I feel your pain. I do know that what's there is ER+/PR+. Just not staging or grading yet. Good luck to you!!!

  • TikkasMom
    TikkasMom Member Posts: 83
    edited November 2015

    Welcome Otessa63, sorry you have to be here but nice to meet you.

    Lots of smart ladies here. Very helpful info. Waiting is the hardest part so far for me, I'll let you know after tomorrow if waiting was easier than post op, Tomorrow's my big day. I'll post as soon as I'm up for it.

    Good luck all, take care...

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