Exercise and well being during chemo and radiation

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  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited October 2015

    Jen- Five Dozen! Wow! And you did kick its ass.

    PB- ditto. You are still getting out there. Doing something. So important tomaintain some kind of habit.

    Octo- my hero. 😍😍😍

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited October 2015


    Wow, you ladies amaze me. I have started walking more, but I have the opposite problem as some of you. I do not want to lose any more weight. I lost about 15 pounds during chemo. My pants are so loose! How do you exercise so much and not loose weight? I do not eat sugar and have stopped drinking alcohol because all the research says sugar feeds Cancer cells. And, I have never been a bread eater. Since diagnosis and learning so much about Cancer and nutrition, I am not eating processed foods. I try to eat a lot of fruits (which I know turns into sugar......carbs too), but not the same kind of sugar. I eat a lot of fo vegetables and chicken and fish. There is just not a lot of calories in those fooda. So, when I exercise I lose weight. What can I do? What do you eat

  • pboi
    pboi Member Posts: 663
    edited October 2015

    Mysunshine...I have this problem too. I was thin to begin with and lost about 10 pounds on chemo, and do not want to lose any more weight, yet I would like to increase the duration/intensity of my exercise and add weights to it too. So far I have been able to stay at one weight, by making myself eat more. I eat a diet similar to yours, and eat frequently during the day. I do eat a lot of nuts and am thinking to add more beans, oatmeal, and quinoa to my diet. I'd actually like to cut my meat (chicken and fish) intake, but need to figure out how to get my protein in. I'd also like to know for those with a similar issue what they do.

    PB


  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited October 2015


    Glad to know I am not alone!

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited October 2015

    eaglemom, what does 110 grams of protein look like? I eat a lot of protein, but have never been sure how to measure my protein intake. I just know after riding I crave it.

    My sunshine48 have you tried adding small quantities of beans and yams? They are lower on the glycemic index, but might help with weight gain. Also bump up good saturated fat and protein. I have the opposite problem, I can gain weight looking at food. In my good eating, I eat close to what you do, but no grains, and fruit is only berries and grapefruit. Need to get back on the wagon!

    And this past week, I have had so much gas, maybe my guts are recovered finally. But then I keep worrying is it gas or my liver, even though all my liver enzymes are fine. Hubby says gas honey, that's where your colon is. I hate the constant worry😤!

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited October 2015

    Happy anniversary, Jen.

    Pboi, thousands upon thousands of dollars' worth of psychotherapy taught me to get up and move around when I'm depressed or anxious.

    How not to lose weight: Menopause!

  • eheinrich
    eheinrich Member Posts: 792
    edited October 2015

    8.5k steps, 25 flights of stairs. Back from the lake. Just back from PS for a TE fill. In a pissy mood now. I don't expect many more steps today.

  • littleblueflowers
    littleblueflowers Member Posts: 2,000
    edited October 2015

    Menopause. Undiscovered country. So it makes you not lose weight?

    6 mile jog. Hide is looking better!

    Thanks ksusan!

  • littlepearus
    littlepearus Member Posts: 1
    edited October 2015

    5 years after my original diagnosis and lumpectomy, I try to keep up with exercises to have good preventive activities. I follow a fitness blogger Dr. Nina Cherie who sometimes cover specific exercises for and follow along all her exercise tips and they've been really helpful. She's actually doing a live broadcast tomorrow (Friday Oct 16 11:30AM PST) to go over some exercise tips specifically in preventing/recovering from breast cancer so I thought it would be really cool for folks here to check it out. So I'm sharing the promo for her session tomorrow. If you use the iPhone/iPad you can download the free app Boxtiq.tv to watch her on live video and chat with her at 11:30AM PST Friday.

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  • eaglemom
    eaglemom Member Posts: 76
    edited October 2015

    PB; just being here and posting counts! 3 miles is good, so don't sell yourself short if you don't reach your goals every day. Being aware and accountable is well over half the battle.

    Happy anniversary Jen! Your hubby sounds like a keeper. And a job that keeps you active is a very good thing. I gave up my desk job years ago because it wasn't good for my back among other things. My glutes always get a great workout riding my bike but I need to remember to stretch my hamstrings a bit more before I ride cuz they're a bit sore today. Actually, my bike is a good full body workout cuz it's a front wheel drive recumbent; my arms and abs get almost as good a workout as my glutes and legs.

    I just started measuring my protein intake about a week ago so I'm still learning Theresa. I track what I eat and try to estimate quantities. Since I'm not cooking for myself here at the lodge, it's a little harder than when I pick my own foods. I looked up a list of high protein foods and I try to pick items from that list. When I was making my own breakfasts last week, I was making a smoothie with some protein powder, yogurt or kefir, frozen berries, and a banana and also eating one soft boiled egg. That breakfast alone was about 44g of protein, 2 servings of fruit, and pretty low calorie. Some of my favorite protein sources are; 3 oz skinless chicken (28g protein, 141 calories), 3 oz tuna (22g protein, 99 calories), 1 egg (6g protein, 71 calories), 1/2 cup beans (7-11g protein, 90-150 calories), 1 oz almonds, pistachios, flax, or sunflower seeds (6g protein, 140-163 calories), 1 cup Greek yogurt (24g protein, 133 calories), 1 cup cottage cheese (28g protein, 162 calories), 1 oz part skim mozzarella cheese (7g protein, 72 calories). They have a really nice salad bar here at the lodge, so I'm making sure to add some slivered almonds and sunflower seeds to my green salad and having a little cottage cheese as well. If I add one protein shake, I easily get over my 100oz goal for the day.

    Today I only had my one radiation appointment and nothing else scheduled so I took a nice one hour walk (about 6km) in the morning and a one hour bike ride (estimated at 15km since there were some hills and city streets with stoplights) in the afternoon. I also had 120 oz of fluids, 130g protein, and 11 servings fruits/vegetables)

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited October 2015

    10/15: Fitbit steps + resistance band + stretches + 20 modified military press + 60 crunches + 80 dead bugs + Zumba = 11.25 miles

  • littleblueflowers
    littleblueflowers Member Posts: 2,000
    edited October 2015

    Do I sense a mascot???

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  • eheinrich
    eheinrich Member Posts: 792
    edited October 2015

    Ok I felt like I needed to do 10k steps so I ran laps around my coffee table until I hit it.

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited October 2015

    Dead Bug 4 EVAH!!

    Eileen, I jog in place until I hit a satisfying whole number.

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited October 2015


    Eileen, That sounds like something I would do! Ha Ha! Now that I have my Fitbit, I am always looking at it to see how many steps Imhave taken.

  • Csalazar
    Csalazar Member Posts: 7
    edited October 2015

    Thx octogirl for the reminder. I do eat protein just in smaller bites like banana pancake with almonds, yogurt with almonds, eggs and for dinner some protein with veggies or salad. I have decreased what I eat because I feel uncomfortable. I'm taking Pepcid which helps. Drinking lots of water and chamomile tea really helps as well. I'm not drinking or eating too much of anything else except the occasional jello with whip cream😀. I'm active but need to get to exercising which means walking again.

  • JerseyGirl22
    JerseyGirl22 Member Posts: 342
    edited October 2015

    Can I please join your thread?

    I'm on round 5 of 6 TCHP, and had hemoglobin go to low so I had to have a blood transfusion. The Taxotere and Carboplatin have totally zapped my body, so I haven't been able to go beyond walking 450 ft to the mailbox (1x daily) and back, or up and down our stairs. Doc says rest, rest, rest until chemo is over. Then I have surgery, rads, and finish a year of Herceptin....

    Before all of this I'd lost 30lbs, was working out every day and getting myself back in shape. Now, it's all I can do to move through the house. I'm used to being active and eating right. This is very frustrating. Due to the SEs from the T & C I can't eat my protein/veggie/fruit shakes, as they tear up my intestines. So I'm eating any what I can and moving as allowable.

    I want to thank you all for being such an inspiration. I look at this board and see that it gets better. That I will get back to moving my body, and not being a lump on the couch, and that my health will return. Final round is Nov. 2nd, then meet with docs to discuss surgery and beyond.... I just want to get back to moving and feeling human again.

    Thank you all for surviving and thriving and being so open out here. I need this group.

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited October 2015

    Welcome, JerseyGirl. Not to argue with your doc, but many of us were told to maintain moderate exercise through treatment. You might want to find out the rationale for resting i your particular situation.

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  • phoebe58
    phoebe58 Member Posts: 193
    edited October 2015

    Hi everyone, I have been more intentionally active this past week in a structured way, but not as much as I hoped. Am just 8 weeks post Diep, so still rather tender all through abdomen and chest [..... no dead bugs for me yet!] but have added a brisk power walk around indoor track at university and a few minutes every lap on the elliptical and stair climber... first day felt sore from even that small amount, but going every second day and will increase amount next week. At home still doing leisurely outdoor walks with friends or dog in the crisp fall sunshine, and my range of motion / lymphedema prevention stretches.

    Food wise, except for a fabulous blowout Thanksgiving dinner :), I have improved overall eating from my former 80-20 good to 90-10. The good part is similar to mysunshine and eagle, but the 10 part is less strictly monitored - bit of wine, occasional dessert or snack. I too try to minimize sugar, but not worried about fruit. Something to maybe add in the maintaining protein higher calories category in healthy way is hummus -- love it as dip for veg.

    Hang in there Jerseygirl. I had quite the case of shortness of breath due to chemo [going from basement to top floor with laundry felt like I had climbed Mt Everest......] but it got better.You are all inspiring me to do more.

  • phoebe58
    phoebe58 Member Posts: 193
    edited October 2015

    ps Jerseygirl, to echo ksusan, I have heard too that doing some activity is helpful throughout treatment - so mailbox trips sound like a great plan and maybe even some gentle stretch routines at home - whether your thing is yoga, or tai chi or qi gong etc, to keep you limber and maintain some strength. I was able to do that [albeit with some modifications at times -- just didn't push it during the worst of it] and felt any routine added some 'normalcy'.

    I'm thinking of a fitbit........... there seem to be a few styles with different features out there. Any comments from users?

  • eheinrich
    eheinrich Member Posts: 792
    edited October 2015

    I have the fitbit charge. I like it a lot but I just found out there's a fitbit zip that attaches to your clothes - like a pedometer. I have a small wrist & the fitbit looks stupid on me. I wish I had done further research - definitely would've gone w/ the zip. Same functions just less conspicuous and would allow me to wear my regular watch which I miss.

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited October 2015

    I use the Zip.

  • pboi
    pboi Member Posts: 663
    edited October 2015

    2 mi walk/run on the treadmill yesterday + participated volleyball practice with my girls + steps = 5.17 mi. In terms of mileage one of my best days! I felt pretty good doing it too!

    Ksusan...menopause=how not to lose weight. Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be a solution for me. Though maybe medically-induced menopause doesn't count or I have not been in menopause long enough (only 2 1/2 months)

    For those having a hard time dropping weight, could sleep be a factor? Could disrupted sleep and being tired be a factor in your metabolism or eating?

    PB

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited October 2015


    I love my new Zip!

  • phoebe58
    phoebe58 Member Posts: 193
    edited October 2015

    thanks for zip tips!! Like the idea of a clothing attachment. I am getting a 'fuck cancer' bracelet so don't want to be wearing too much wrist bling :)... and wear a watch too. I even like the name -- makes me want to be zipping about!

  • eheinrich
    eheinrich Member Posts: 792
    edited October 2015

    9k steps yesterday - which included a lovely walk to the library. While there I picked up a book of vegan slow cooker recipes that serve 2 people Perfect! I'm not vegan but I really would like to move in that direction. I couldn't just go cold turkey because, cheese. But the recipe I made yesterday was so delicious that I ordered the book & a small slow cooker from Amazon. Very excited.

    Tonight through Tuesday I'll be in SF with my youngest. I expect high step counts to report :)

  • slothabouttown
    slothabouttown Member Posts: 449
    edited October 2015

    I'm go I g to try to find that cookbook! Since going vegetarian I've been sad that so many crock pot meals involve a big chunk of meat. I miss the crock pot!

  • slothabouttown
    slothabouttown Member Posts: 449
    edited October 2015

    Also, I finally have some significant exercise to report! My humane investigations team worked on the federal take down drug raid this week that uncovered a huge cockfighting ring:

    http://www.kptv.com/story/30283746/warrants-lead-t...

    Wish I could tell you details but I can tell you I've been walking, running, weightlifting and dealing with bugs both dead and alive non-stop since the take down! It feels good to push myself physically in the course of my work, I had been worried ever since surgery and chemo that the next time "a big one" came along I might not be able to keep up but so far so good. I'm exhausted but relieved that I'm still standing! The animal component of this case is a tragic one, there's no happy ending for fighting birds so it's been heavy in that respect for sure.

  • pboi
    pboi Member Posts: 663
    edited October 2015

    4.2 mi total yesterday.

    Sloth and Eileen...I'm moving toward going vegetarian too, or at least attempt to. Dreading it though, because I love meat and wondering how to fill my protein intake. Plus it's a struggle keeping at my current weight, and don't want to lose anymore weight. But starting to learn about it, because I need to do it. Eileen will you share the title of the book you got?

    PB

  • eheinrich
    eheinrich Member Posts: 792
    edited October 2015

    Sloth - wow! On behalf of our furry and feathered friends, thanks for the work you do.

    The book is called Vegan Slow Cooking: For two or just for you. It calls for a small (1.5 qt) slow cooker. Perfect for me as I'm now cooking for one. The author is Kathy Hester. She also has one called Vegan Slow Cooker which I assume has family sized recipes.

    I discovered something fun today. I was considering getting a fitbit zip since I don't really care for wearing the one I have on my wrist. It occurred to me today that they both used the same technology - why can't I slip mine around my purse handle or my belt loop? Turns out it still works same as if on my wrist. yay!

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