DIEP 2015

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  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited October 2015

    JB: I hope this is your last one!

  • mefromcc
    mefromcc Member Posts: 188
    edited October 2015

    I had my first round of fat grafting 5 weeks ago tomorrow. I'm thrilled to say that the fat has stayed (story of my life - my fat has ALWAYS stayed 😒) and the grafting has really improved the shaping of the foobs. I still have a defect from a problem I had in April, so I need an additional fat grafting which is tentatively scheduled for December 9.

    I, also have not even looked into nipples. Figure I'll let the pathfinders of our group show me.

  • Westphal107
    Westphal107 Member Posts: 15
    edited October 2015
    Hello ladies,
    I am three weeks post op BMX with DIEP recon and am wondering what others have done to manage the tingling, creepy-crawling feeling across the chest? What can I do to alleviate the feeling? It's driving me nuts today!

    Also, are there any scar creams or lotions that you thought were helpful? I can't apply anything just yet, but once my doctor says it's ok, I want to help speed the healing and minimize the visual scarring, if possible.

    Thanks for your help.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited October 2015

    West: I don't get that tingling, creepy crawly feeling but after chemo, I have some of it. Are you taking any B vitamins? That may help. I was told to take B6 for prevention of nerve damage with chemo and I also take a multi vitamin with B12, I think. Have you asked your doctor about it?


  • mefromcc
    mefromcc Member Posts: 188
    edited October 2015

    I am on gabapentin for neuropathy from an injury I had. It takes care of creepy, tingling, shooting sparks sensations. Ask your doctor if it would help you.

    My wound nurse said to use a lotion that is oil-based, such as Aquaphor, not a lotion such as Lubriderm. Other members of this list have pampered themselves with some wonderful oils. I'll let them chime in.

  • phoebe58
    phoebe58 Member Posts: 193
    edited October 2015

    hi Westphal -- I was getting that skin hypersensitivity and tingling too, and read here that others had found relief with a pill called Gabapentin [which is often for various aspects of nerve issues -- pharmacist had assured me it's a good drug without other problems] Initially I had taken it when side effects of Taxol created finger and toe tingling. I restarted it, and I no longer notice any of that hypersensitivity across chest and upper inner arm skin and it seemed to respond quite quickly.

    Lots of scar creams talked about on here.... I waited over 5 weeks to make sure all the dried scabby bits were gone, then have started using a variety of things - surgeon recommended bio oil, but coconut oil too, and I have this rose hip oil with vit c.... so I swap them out with LaRoche Possay Cicaplast [in makeup section]. Rub on gently. My physio also showed me a scar massage technique for abdomen: Before using cream, rub/push gently slowly across skin starting an inch or two above scar, towards and just over scar at 90' with fingertips.... to prevent scar adhesions with underlying tissues. My R breast 'paddle crop circle' is sort of dry and flaky so started coconut oil on that.

  • Tmgilbert1071
    Tmgilbert1071 Member Posts: 47
    edited October 2015

    Yesterday was my stage 1, DEIP with Dr.Wise (NOLA). While on pain pump things were good. I was in and out. Could feel pain but nothing excruciating. After sx the nurses are coming in every 10-15 min to check the sounds on Doppler. Your pain is managed through the pain pump. Today was a different story. Was on pump until about 11am then they took pump away and gave me oral pain meds. Took out foley cath and I even walked the hallways. Felt fine until about 9pm then it hit me. Way overdid it. So my advice. Take it easy. Don't try to push yourself. I thought I was progressing, but I took one step forward and two steps back. Nurses are great hear. They will change pain meds to see which ones work and which ones don't. I'm wondering how long realistically that I will walk with a hunchback? My back hurts from walking in that position. I never understood while reading these blogs what that meant until today.

  • trying2staypositive7
    trying2staypositive7 Member Posts: 96
    edited October 2015

    Congratulations tmgilbert1071! You made it to the other side! Take it easy. You've been through major surgery so give your body time to heal. Time flies and before you know it you'll be walking upright. It's true, your back will hurt for awhile but time heals all wounds. Rest and take your pain meds. I wish you a successful recovery 

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited October 2015

    Tmgilbert: I hope you can get the pain under control. One thing that helped me when I walked was to slightly bend my knees. It puts less pressure on your back. Take it easy and don't overdo. Hugs. Say hello to Jenny (my favorite nurse) if you happen to see her. She is a night nurse.

  • Tmgilbert1071
    Tmgilbert1071 Member Posts: 47
    edited October 2015

    ok ladies, just had my first shower and got to take a peek from a mirrors perspective instead of just looking down. They look good!! Really good! I'm hoping once swelling goes away they will get better and better. I can say where the drains are is where the discomfort is. Padding helps with all of that. And standings up, wow...I read about it but it's hard! Being in my own panties and socks really makes a difference too. I get discharged tomorrow. @trvler I'll tell Jenny If I see her.

  • new__me
    new__me Member Posts: 128
    edited October 2015

    So happy to hear from you and that all went well.

  • phoebe58
    phoebe58 Member Posts: 193
    edited October 2015

    Glad to hear Tmgilbert!!! I had that exact same feeling when I first looked in the mirror :) Every day you will be walking a bit straighter and that will help reduce the strain on those poor back muscles.

  • TRINEG
    TRINEG Member Posts: 24
    edited October 2015

    Tmgilbert1070 I'm so happy for you! Sorry you are not pain free and not standing up straight but you have lots of support and well wishes. Happy that your foobs look really good. I'm 3 weeks ahead of you and things continue to get better. Smile!


  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited October 2015

    That's great news, Tmgilbert! I think it only gets better from here.

  • mefromcc
    mefromcc Member Posts: 188
    edited October 2015

    Mar-vo-lous! I felt that thrill when I first saw mine! It had been 4 months since I had my BMX, and was feeling incomplete. I thought the foobs were beautiful, incisions or not 😁.

  • Js5
    Js5 Member Posts: 17
    edited October 2015

    For those of you who have had a baby after DIEP, or have considered it......

    I began 2015 excited because my husband and I had decided to try for another baby. We have 3 healthy children, (13, 15 and 19) but I have always wanted more. DH finally agreed :)

    I went to my annual exams and had my mammogram where they found calcifications. They were going to just follow up but when I told them I was considering another pregnancy, we decided to do a biopsy. They found DCIS, stage 0 but grade 3. I chose a bilateral mastectomy with immediate DIEP reconstruction because I knew I could not live with the worry and anxiety of recurrence. I saw my breast surgeon a few weeks ago and she said my chance of recurrence is less that 1%.

    However, my tumor was very highly estrogen and progesterone positive so I thought that the baby was out of the question. But if my recurrence chance is so low and most of my breast tissue is gone, will my increased hormone levels increase my chance of recurrence? Or is this a safe risk I can take?

    I am wondering what others who have had this surgery and then chose to have a baby have felt?

    I would be ok if I did not have another baby but the thought of it is a little exciting. I am also 42 years old so I know the other risks I am taking and I am willing to accept the baby I am given, if it even happens. Thanks for listening.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited October 2015

    "But if my recurrence chance is so low and most of my breast tissue is gone, will my increased hormone levels increase my chance of recurrence? Or is this a safe risk I can take?"

    Do you have an oncologist? I guess they don't give you any kind of hormone blockers or do they?

    I would think that question above would be one only a doctor could answer. As far as feelings about having had another baby after DIEP, I can't answer that one.

  • BigSister-2015
    BigSister-2015 Member Posts: 342
    edited October 2015

    Hi New__me,

    I had my BMX with immediate reconstruction with TEs in February. One got infected and had to come out. Its replacement in June also became infected, complicated by sepsis.

    A lat flap was recommended as the next course, but moving muscle just didnt sit well with me, so I am now pursuing a DIEP.

    I too wondered about the riskiness of the long surgery, so I asked my breast surgeon about it. (He is helping me find a good PS for the DIEP.) He assured me that the length of time under is not really an issue.

    They don't have to have you way under because the surgery is relatively superficial. (They don't have to take you deep for your DIEP--hah!)

    The main concern for the length of surgery is the risk of blood clots in the deep veins of your legs, much like the risk you get from being on a plane for 15 hours. That is why they put the leg compression devices on and keep them on till you are more active.

    As to risking your life for "cosmetics," they don't really get it. I have been wrestling with that myself. Here I am, three months out from the sepsis, and I still feel like crap. I can hardly put in a full day's work once a week, and the thought of more surgery and a long recovery is horrific

    But having been flat now for 8 months has confirmed at least one thing for me: I hate being flat. I have never been one to worry about how I look, but no breasts is just killing me. I find myself looking at other women who have a cleavage and desperately wish for even a little bit for myself.

    In early September had my first fill on the one side that still has its expander, and I can't tell you how exciting it was to have 100ccs of saline giving me a bit of a mound. It also confirmed that I really don't like the implant under my muscle and confirms more that I want a bilateral DIEP.

    Anyway, all that to say that those who haven't had breast cancer cannot adequately counsel you. They have no clue what we really go through. I don't discuss my surgical decisions with anyone but a close circle of friends and my dear husband. Fortunately, they are widely supportive and don't try to give me unsolicited advice; they just support me in my decisions For that I am grateful!

    I am also grateful that my original breast surgeon is widely respected, and he has come alongside to help me figure out what is best and to help me navigate the system. That brings me a measure of peace, but I am still struggling with general anxiety.

    Btw, GABA great for anxiety. It also helps me sleep at night. When I wake up with racing thoughts, I take another one, and it usually helps me settle. Also, not neglecting my time in God's word is crucial, even when I feel too tired and discouraged to read.

    HTH!

  • Westphal107
    Westphal107 Member Posts: 15
    edited October 2015

    Tmgilbert - I'm just finishing week three of recovery and I can almost stand up straight! I agree with your advice to not push yourself. Even at this point in recovery I have to be careful not to over exert myself I think I feel good and then wham..... Total Exhaustion!


    BigSister2 - I agree that it's hard for those who haven't had breast cancer to adequately counsel us. They mean well, but have no clue what we really go through. This is an incredible journey. Harder and more emotional than I expected. I am very grateful to have found this site for advice and support.

    Sending healing hugs to all. Enjoy a great day.
  • mefromcc
    mefromcc Member Posts: 188
    edited October 2015

    Well said BigSister-2015! New_Me. I'm still voting for you to be as "selfish" as you want when it comes to restoring your body to as normal as you can get 👌.

  • SA8PG
    SA8PG Member Posts: 371
    edited October 2015

    Big sister

    I'm so sorry to hear about your long ride on this train. 😔. Do you have a date set for the DIEP yet? I agree completely with how you feel and that others don't understand. I myself struggle with the "am I being selfish!?!??" as well knowing I have so many little people that need me. I have been flat since January and I too see cleavage and wish I had even a little. Thank you for sharing.

    Much prayers,love & hugs

    G

  • kathy744
    kathy744 Member Posts: 12
    edited October 2015

    I finally did it....I finished all 39 pages - between work and life getting in the way, and of course endless doctors appointments it took me a couple weeks to finish.

    I have to say reading everyone's posts has been such a great support to me. I too have listened to several people saying it was crazy to have such a long surgery and recovery and that my husband should like me as I am now, a uniboobie. Some just don't understand that I am doing it for me and not for him.

    I work in a uniform store and I had a customer come in the other day, push up her boobs and say I hate these things, I wish I could get rid of them. I was speechless, almost burst into tears, she has no idea what I've been through but all I could think is that I would love to have a pair again. Well I will soon enough, in 11 more days. My Diep is scheduled for October 21st, I can't wait.

    After reading all 39 pages I know some come through with no complications while others have many. But I know like everyone before me I will get through this.

    Thanks to all who post, it's given me a lot of encouragement.

    Kathy

  • 39andhip
    39andhip Member Posts: 164
    edited October 2015

    Kathy - How great that you have this surgery coming up! I wish you well, and hope you don't have any complications.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited October 2015

    Kathy: I wish you the best with your surgery!

  • slv58
    slv58 Member Posts: 1,216
    edited October 2015

    Kathy, also wishing you a great surgery and quick recovery. When in the midst of a sore back and nagging drains, remember it's really short term in the scheme of things and you will be left with something that I'm sure will make you happy. I looked at mine 20 minutes out of surgery and felt so appreciative and in awe of how normal it looked. I was and still am very happy. I can't wait for stage two!

  • DizzParkMom
    DizzParkMom Member Posts: 316
    edited October 2015

    Hi! I finished 5 months of chemo 4 weeks ago and have a skin sparing bmx and dual diep scheduled 10/19. I am flying far from home for surgery and it's that part that freaks me out the most. I'll be inpatient 3-4 days and then spend a few more days in a hotel with DH, DS11, and MIL before flying home. I fly back a couple weeks later to get drains removed. Ugg! Just thinking of all the logistics stresses me out. I have read most of this thread over the last 5 months and most of the general surgery thread. As of tonight, it's all a jumbled mess in my head. To make matters worse, I had a 'not necessarily cancer, but not benign' spot excised from the ridge if my ear on Thursday. It's really painful. Being in all this pain has me hyper-focused on all the pain still yet to come...

    Any calming words of wisdom will be taken to heart and appreciated.

  • Angelsareeverywhere
    Angelsareeverywhere Member Posts: 4
    edited October 2015

    i had the diep flap procedure done 8/27/2015. I was in the hospital for 4 days. I had the pain pump for 2 days, after that I took 2 pain pills. Don't fear the pain you will be fine. The drains are the most annoying, it will be worth everything to feel and look as close to natural as you can get. I knew that I could not live with anything but my own tissue, I saw 2 plastics who only wanted to do implants,they tried to scare me into the surgery they were capable of doing. You will not regret your decision. It took me about 3 weeks to get where I didn't need a nap during the day. I was lucky enough to have a university hospital here in Michigan that offered all different procedures. Best of luck to you, you will be in my thoughts and prayers.



  • new__me
    new__me Member Posts: 128
    edited October 2015

    The PS i am seeing on Tues strongly pushes implants. Does not offer diep. I will get teferrals from him.. the Medical College is 20 miles from where i live and they have an outstanding reconstruction program. The problem is they are not in my insurance network. Does anyone know if insurance plans ever approve out of network?

    Also i need to get the bmx scheduled. Was putting it off until i could arrange the diep but at this point i think i will go with delayed diep. Is this ok? Will the results be compromised by putting off recon for a month or so? I need more time to find a PS. I already know i want diep.

  • phoebe58
    phoebe58 Member Posts: 193
    edited October 2015

    hi Dizz I feel your anxiety about the unknown. I too had to fly 500 miles to get a great surgeon and a Diep with BMX. I am 7 weeks post and never regretted it -- yes the first few days are kinda tough, but you will be well taken care of in the hospital. Then you will have your family at your beck and call. Don't overdo it, sleep with lots of extra pillows to prop you up comfortably, take your pain meds regularly, including stool softeners :), and every day will get noticably better. Drains are mostly just a challenge re dressing and measuring. I tucked them discreetly into inside pockets of a fitness jacket!! Let the airline know you will be needing a wheelchair on your return -- that will give you extra support too as you will still be easily exhausted. I used one of those little neck donut pillows under my seatbelt for extra comfort. You can do it and you will come out the other side very pleased with your choice.

  • 39andhip
    39andhip Member Posts: 164
    edited October 2015

    Dizz - You will be fine. It is going to be tough, but you will be fine, because you are tough. Just focus on yourself and your healing and let your family take care of you. It's going to be worth it.

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