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  • WndrWoman
    WndrWoman Member Posts: 333
    edited September 2015

    Sjacobs146 - So happy for your good news. The discomfort is certainly worth the result. You know they were being thorough. Enjoy this great fall weather with an easier mind.

    I started LiveStrong this week. I was given a great resource package. Some of it refers to stages in the cancer process I have already been through. Learning the exercise machines and staying motivated to get stronger and more flexible.

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited September 2015

    I finished LiveStrong in July, and loved it! And lost 10 pounds. Have fun!

  • zjrosenthal
    zjrosenthal Member Posts: 2,026
    edited September 2015

    Got my pet scan results on Friday. All clear for cancer! Now if they can only find me some help for the severe muscle and joint pain and stiffness. I was actually offered a wheel chair! Did any of you have these subside after finishing herceptin / perjeta? Love, Jean

  • Sjacobs146
    Sjacobs146 Member Posts: 770
    edited September 2015

    Jean, congrats on the clean PET scan. That must put your mind at ease somewhat.

  • zjrosenthal
    zjrosenthal Member Posts: 2,026
    edited September 2015

    Yes, it's good to know that cancer is not the cause of the pain. Back to the drawing board! Love, Jean

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited September 2015

    Great News Jean! I too have the extreme joint pain, my knees and back have been rough lately. Hopefully nothing will be "glowing" on my bone scan!

  • WndrWoman
    WndrWoman Member Posts: 333
    edited September 2015

    Jean, Glad to hear about your NED report. Very encouraging. Do you think the Femara could be bringing on joint pain?

  • zjrosenthal
    zjrosenthal Member Posts: 2,026
    edited September 2015

    I stopped femara for 2 weeks in August with no came in the sides. Love, Jean

  • CoyoteNV
    CoyoteNV Member Posts: 575
    edited September 2015

    I've been following the posts about new aches and pains with interest because I fall in line with all of you. I attributed it to age to a certain degree, but after my 5 month appointment with my oncologist today, I'm not so sure that is the whole of it. I've had several scans over the last few months trying to get a reason for the pain on my bc side on my lower back/side. Because there has been a change in my kidney numbers, they checked that area. They ruled out any internal organ issue. Then my doctor said... "Okay, we've checked out everything and what you are dealing with is post radiation rib inflammation... but we had to be sure it wasn't anything else." I asked if it would go away with time and she said, "Probably not entirely." I've never been big on taking aspirin types of meds, but she put me on a course of Tylenol for a week or so to see if it will get the pain under control. I suspected that it was a rib thing after the first scan, but confirmation from The Doctor always lightens the mental load.

    So, Oh yeah! It's part of our new normal!

  • PoppyK
    PoppyK Member Posts: 1,805
    edited October 2015

    Hey Coyote, There is a new thread started by the mods; a sort of art gallery for those of us on the board. I immediately thought of you and your pieces. Here is a link; https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/135/topic/835245

  • CoyoteNV
    CoyoteNV Member Posts: 575
    edited October 2015

    Thank you for thinking of me PoppyK. The mods must have seen your note and sent me one too. I will pick out some photos for it this weekend. Hope all is well with you!


  • farmerma
    farmerma Member Posts: 83
    edited October 2015

    So the mammogram wasn't SO bad. Although having to wait while the radiologist read the images seemed like an eternity. But all is good. As they said, it all "looked as we expect it would look after surgery and radiation". So that was a relief.

    Today I saw the plastic surgeon and came away a little discouraged. My tumor was on the inner quadrant of my right side. I opted for an oncoplastic reconstruction at the time to avoid having a big hollowed out area. They basically rearranged the rest of the breast tissue to fill in what was taken out. After the surgery I developed a large seroma and, honestly, it hasn't softened up much since. Not sure if radiation made it worse or not. It's basically a big area of dead fat. My options are 1) go back in, surgically remove the dead tissue, which will give me that hollowed out spot I was trying to avoid, then fill it 2-3 times with fat grafting (I told him, I've got plenty I can give him) over the next 6 months or so; or 2) wait another 4-6 months to see if it absorbs on its own and then do 1-2 fat grafting sessions to fix up the shape. Problem is, if I opt for #2, there's no guarantee it WILL reabsorb and if it doesn't, I'll have to do #1 anyway. Of course, I want this to be fixed yesterday! So sick of looking lopsided and feeling hard and uncomfortable. But if there's a chance I might be able to avoid another surgery....I just don't know what to do.

    It was a year ago this week that I got my biopsy results back and found out I had cancer. I don't want to have to deal with this for another year! So sick of it!

  • WndrWoman
    WndrWoman Member Posts: 333
    edited October 2015

    Farmerma - Great news that all looks well and the mamm went fairly well. I have no plastic surgery experience, but it does seem that recovery from surgery and radiation can take a long time. As much as you want it all done, maybe a breather would be beneficial. So many hard decisions, and they seem to come when one is tired. Good luck.

  • WndrWoman
    WndrWoman Member Posts: 333
    edited October 2015

    Quiggy and mqt64 - Any updates? Thinking of you both.

  • mqt64
    mqt64 Member Posts: 103
    edited October 2015

    Hi all my rads sisters. Reading all the most recent posts it came clear to me that no one woman's journey is the same and we all have had continuing challenges. Jean, so glad your scans have come back clean. Coyote, so sorry that the rib pain continues. Farmerma, I totally get the divets/craters left by surgery. It is so hard to know what to do at any given time.

    I was having a pity party for a while. After my trip to U of Michigan I just felt frustrated and alone. I was in limbo again. My breast still had 2 holes in it which didn't seem to matter much to anyone except me and my dh. Bless him! I had just put my dog down due to some kind of lymphoma or pleural cancer. (they weren't sure.) He was12 1/2 and I had had him since he was 3 months old. My brother was diagnosed with kidney cancer and I was down for the count. Fast forward about 6 weeks. After multiple discussions and much thought, I had another debriedment and closure. This time there is no nipple left and I have a bit of a crater in the center. I am 2 weeks out and so far the incision is holding. That now is my chief concern. My outlook has improved and reading the recent posts I realize that we are all continuing the journey. It's good to see that some are taking advantage of the Livestrong program.

    Be grateful for the small things. Hold your family close. My brother is NED. For those who remember my nephew with Hodgkins, he had a recurrence, did chemotherapy and stem cell transplant and now has had another recurrence. The doctors told him just to live his life as best he can. He is not a candidate for more treatment for a year. He signed up to play baseball!

    I am blessed. Marge

  • WndrWoman
    WndrWoman Member Posts: 333
    edited October 2015

    Marge, Thanks for sharing all that has happened lately. Your family has had a hard hit from cancer. No wonder you had a down period. Always hoping that this procedure will do the trick.

  • CoyoteNV
    CoyoteNV Member Posts: 575
    edited October 2015

    Marge - I am going to borrow a phrase used over on the July 2014 Chemo Posts when referring to Hers2. I think it applies to 99% of us. "It is a marathon, not a sprint." I was HERS2- (along with ER & PR) but I recognize the feeling as appropriate. Don't let it get you down.

    Jana

  • mqt64
    mqt64 Member Posts: 103
    edited October 2015

    Farmerma, I've been thinking a lot about your last post. Fat necrosis is a painful complication. Because I had a lot due to the methylene blue injection I know how unrelenting that feeling of just not normal can be. Methylene blue necrosis is different in that you can end up with necrotic cavities within the fat that coupled with radiation makes healing difficult. Anyway, if it is attached to the surrounding tissue it's like having a golf ball in your breast that pulls on the surrounding tissue every time you move. At least that is what it felt like to me. I cannot offer you advice for your situation. What I know for me is I had pain until all of that hard tissue was removed. Even though the incision line reopened after the previous surgery, I still had little pain. Prior to this last surgery my only concern was that the incision stayed closed. So far so good. To have a "normal" appearing breast I will need plastic surgery again. In the meanwhile, I am pretty much pain free. I guess you might ask your PS what is the likelihood that it will resolve on it's own? How likely is it you would have a repeat problem with fat injections? Is there another option for reconstruction so you do not have another problem with fat necrosis? He knows your situation far better than I. God only knows how much we all dislike surgery. Hope this might help a bit. It is just my experience with fat necrosis.

    Best of luck with this. Take good care. Gentle hugs. Marge

  • farmerma
    farmerma Member Posts: 83
    edited October 2015

    Marge - Thanks for the reply and the suggested things to think about. My PS said that. Necrosis resolves itself about 80% of the time. I figured those were pretty good odds. I'm going to wait it out for another 4 months, trying to do a little more massage to the area and see how it goes. If I can avoid another surgery it's worth waiting it out. It's uncomfortable, but definitely not what I would call painful (not compared to pain I had after the 2 surgeries anyway.

    I'll keep you posted on the progress. Thanks again for the reply

  • mqt64
    mqt64 Member Posts: 103
    edited October 2015

    Farmerma, I am happy for you that you made a decision for the immediate future. One thing that was suggested by the Physical Therapist to me in the very beginning was the use of ultrasound as an adjunct to massage. I had to wait until surgeries, infections, and healed incision lines were resolved. Fast forward11 months! The initial fat and skin necrosis is resolved but I have developed some post surgery. Might be something worth looking to to speed up resolution for both of us. Take good care. Marge

  • farmerma
    farmerma Member Posts: 83
    edited October 2015

    Marge-- I haven't heard of that before but I will definitely look into it. Thanks

  • zjrosenthal
    zjrosenthal Member Posts: 2,026
    edited November 2015

    Greetings my rads sisters. I have a questi9n. While I have no healing issues, there's still an area below my collarbone that is painful to the touch. Also areas of hardness in the radiated breast. Has anyone else had this? Love, Jean

  • farmerma
    farmerma Member Posts: 83
    edited November 2015

    Jean--Sounds absolutely normal to me. Last time I saw my oncologist, I mentioned that I got shooting pains from time to time. She brushed it off and said I'd be telling her that 5 years from now. While that wasn't all that wonderful to hear, at least I know it's nothing unusual. As I posted a few weeks ago, I have a large area that is hard which is apparently fat necrosis (dead tissue) that will, hopefully, be absorbed on its own. I also sometimes can't sleep on my side because of the soreness near where the lymph nodes were removed. I guess it's all part of our new "normal". As much as we'd like to be the way we were before dx, we're forever changed. So, you're certainly not alone.

  • WndrWoman
    WndrWoman Member Posts: 333
    edited November 2015

    I am 9 months since radiation and just have a very slight heaviness compared to the other breast. Skin color is about the same in both. Radiated breast seems slightly warmer still. Only hard area is scar tissue at the lumpectomy incision. I get a little achy pain at the other incision if I go too long without some kind of bra. Nurse navigator tipped me off to that - just putting a leisure bra on provides enough support so the pain goes away.

    Went to a fundraiser for my breast health center (their treat) and heard Loretta LaRoche. She is sooo funny but makes good points while you are laughing. Good experience because I get a little down in spirit during these darker days. Going to Livestrong at the Y gives me a lift too.

    Hang in there all.

  • amylsp
    amylsp Member Posts: 188
    edited November 2015

    Jean, the area under my collar bone is also very sensitive to the touch (not necessarily painful). The best I can describe is that it feels slightly bruised. I have no hardness except the incision scar which is hard and slightly painful when I massage it. I think these things are probably normal.

  • CoyoteNV
    CoyoteNV Member Posts: 575
    edited November 2015

    Here's wishing everyone a wonderful Thanksgiving. I have much to be thankful for this year.

  • Sjacobs146
    Sjacobs146 Member Posts: 770
    edited November 2015

    You too Coyote! I'm especially thankful for all of the ladies I've met on BCO, and for hair!

  • zjrosenthal
    zjrosenthal Member Posts: 2,026
    edited November 2015

    I agree, wishing all a very blessed Thanksgiving. Love, Jean

  • WndrWoman
    WndrWoman Member Posts: 333
    edited November 2015

    Happy Thanksgiving to all. Grateful to realize all the small daily things to be grateful for as well as the bigger blessing of family and friends including everyone on this discussion group.

    Enjoy your hair sjacobs!

  • cwp
    cwp Member Posts: 11
    edited December 2015

    Hello to all,

    Was on Anastrozole which gave me side effects so was switched to Aromasin which gives me the same. Fingers swelled so can't wear my wedding rings. Hand joints hurt too. Hard to open jars. Dropped a whole tray of ice cubes today. Felt like I could not grasp it. Anyone else have this?

    Still can't shave the armpit on the right side (lumpectomy was on the right). Feels too sensitive but also feels just plain weird like strange sensations. Can't stand the feel of the razor. Anyone else have this?

    On a good note, requested a biopsy a few months ago of a nodule they were watching on the GOOD side. Came back B9 thank God. Was not going to wait and watch till the next mammog in Feb. Peace of mind is priceless.

    Any input on my two questions above is appreciated.

    Be well, all.




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