Which paraben free products do you use?

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  • Vicklepickle
    Vicklepickle Member Posts: 13
    edited March 2015

    Unfortunately, you won't have soapberries for 9 years...so unless you are very patient, you may want to get some to use before then! I am so glad to hear you found them from a health food store - I am trying to spread the word so more people start to use them. Good luck!

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited March 2015

    Lol! It'll be like that lemon tree I've been growing for 10 years that's 3 feet tall. Maybe when my teens retire, they can pick a lemon! 

  • yoga_girl
    yoga_girl Member Posts: 234
    edited March 2015

    BPA Free - is challenged

    Note:  A BPA-free label doesn't mean a product is free from other harmful chemical compounds that are slightly different but have a different name.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/why-%e2%80%98bpa-free%e2%80%99-may-be-meaningless/ar-AA9PmCY?ocid=mailsignout

    After years of campaigning, health advocates finally convinced many household product manufacturers to remove the chemical Bisphenol A, known as BPA, from items like receipts, plastic bottles and the lining of tin cans. And as a result, it's not hard to find products labeled "BPA Free." But it turns out the chemicals used to replace BPA may have nearly the exact impact on the human body—hormone disruption—as BPA, according to a new study in the journal Environmental Health Perspectives.

    "According to pretty much all the literature there is on these two substitutes, they are hormonally active in ways similar to BPA–similar mechanisms, similar potencies," said study author Johanna Rochester, a researcher at the Endocrine Disruption Exchange.

    The study evaluated existing research on two BPA replacement chemicals: Bisphenol S and F, known as BPS and BPF. The similarity between the compounds may extend beyond the name, the study suggests. For one, the compounds' structures are remarkably similar. The compounds also behave like BPA, part of the reason why they make a good replacement for manufacturers—if not for consumers looking to oust hormone-disrupting chemicals from their products.

    Research on the health effects of BPF and BPS is still in its early stages—just because a chemical has the ability to behave a certain way in the body doesn't necessarily mean it's dangerous. Still, the researchers say based on what we do know, the average consumer has reason to be a little concerned. BPA has been shown to cause problems with human reproduction, metabolism, neurological function and a whole host of other problems.

    "We've got to do something about putting brand new compounds in products without having consulted with biologists about what they do," said Cheryl S. Watson, a professor at the University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston, who was not involved in this research.

    But beyond researchers sounding the alarm, what should you do as a consumer if you're concerned about BPS and BPF?

    Here's a good place to start:

    Know that BPA-free products can still have unhealthy chemicals.

    This is the most important thing to know and it's pretty straightforward: a BPA-free label doesn't mean a product is free from other harmful chemical compounds that are slightly different but have a different name. Indeed, the BPA-Free Package program, a third party group that verifies that products don't have BPA, is halting operations because the certification creates a "false halo of health" given growing evidence of the dangers of BPS and BPF. Still, because products with BPS and BPF behave similarly to products with BPA, you can follow the same rules to avoid the associated hazards that you would use for BPA.

    Avoid handling receipts.

    Receipts at many grocery stores and retailers are printed on a product known as "thermal" paper. These receipts, once heavy in BPA, are often made with BPS or BPF these days. In some ways, exposure to these compounds in receipts may be riskier than exposure to containers made with the compound. In receipts, BPS and BPF are "free" and can easily migrate from the product to your skin and other surfaces. "If it’s a receipt that I do need, I’ll hold out my bag and ask the person to drop into the bag so I don’t have to touch it," Watson says.

    Drink from steel or glass containers, not plastic ones.

    Steel and glass drinking containers are widely available. It makes sense to purchase a few for the house and a few for the office.

    Don't microwave your food in plastic containers.

    The heat from the microwave can separate BPA-like compounds from plastic containers, making them easier for the consumer to ingest. If you must use plastic tupperware, you should avoid the microwave. Ideally, you just store food in ceramic or glass containers in the first place.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/why-%e2%80%98bpa-free%e2%80%99-may-be-meaningless/ar-AA9PmCY?ocid=mailsignout

  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited March 2015

    The herb known as soapwort can, also, be use to make your own foaming cleansers.


    a) Crush fresh soapwort leaves with a rolling pin.
    b) Simmer the leaves for about 10 minutes.
    c) Strain the liquid, discard the leaves and then whisk the liquid until frothy.

    This makes a lovely cleanser for your face, but it does have a rather woodsy/earthy smell that not everyone will enjoy. I use a drop or two of lavender essential oil in mine, but for those of you who don't want to use lavender; rosemary or mint essential oils work as well.

    [Edited to add] Of course, do a skin patch test first to determine if you are allergic to soapwort or any essential oils you decide to add.

  • labelle
    labelle Member Posts: 721
    edited March 2015

    I just use Walmart's brand (Great Value) of natural dishwasher gel. Nothing bad in it, works pretty good, inexpensive and easy to find.


    Not for my face, for the dishwasher, LOL

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited March 2015

    Just saw this labelle! Bawwwwhawww!!!!. I'm gonna try those. Thanks. 

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited April 2015

    Labelle, I've been using that dishwasher detergent since you told me about it and I'm quite happy with it. Thanks for turning me on to it You gotta love "cheap and "clean".

    Also wanted to mention, if anyone is interested, I just came across a cheaper, clean, skin care line. It's called LIVE CLEAN FRESH FACE. My haggard old face needs some extra help beyond the natural things I use or make myself so I've been using this for a few weeks. It's not bad! Nothing questionable in it, except for one of the items (the exfoiliating scrub, I believe) has phenoxyethanol in it. I did a bit of reading and it seems it's used for healthier products (best they can come up with) instead of the preservative properties that parabens provided. It's only in one of the products so I'm still mulling that one over. Also, if anyone knows about dangers associated with said chemical that I may not be aware of, I'd appreciate any info. Oh, btw, it's a Canadian product so I fear it may not be long for this world :(  The only other truly clean facial line I've found is some company in Australia (can't remember the name at the moment), not available in stores. Seriously expensive. That sucks.

  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited April 2015

    Leggo, I just read your post about the grow-your-own soap berry seeds and cracked up. Thanks for a much needed laugh!

  • Jenwith4kids
    Jenwith4kids Member Posts: 635
    edited April 2015

    Here is what I found about phenotype thanks: https://www.truthinaging.com/ingredients/phenoxyethanol

    At least it is only in the exfoliatorwhich you don't use every day.

    Jen

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited April 2015

    Hopeful, glad I could give you a larf. It really was hilarious because my first thought for the crud on the laundry was blaming my boys for leaving some crap in their pockets. When I figured it out, I owed a BIG apology! My oldest just cracked up at his loony mom for going a step too far with the all-natural products. I told him he can thank me later.

    Jen, thanks for the link. I made up my mind I can do without the scrub and just use an exfoiliating glove instead....probably a glove made somewhere by the smouldering Chinese electronics fire, but WTH...I'm trying. Did you all ever see that thing?? OMG. Our recycleable electronics are sent there and melted down....and 20 feet away they're making Ramen noodles! Seriously, what is wrong with our world?????? Absolutely no wonder we're all sick.

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited April 2015

    http://www.care2.com/greenliving/this-earth-day-pl...

    Someone mentioned aloe vera above. This is the purest one I've ever found... truly a gel, not a liquid... http://www.healingfinds.com/collections/special-sa...



  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited August 2015


    Hi, just thought I would chime in as I hsve been doing a lot of research. If you are Estrogen positive- no soy in food or body products. No plastic water bottles. Water quality really scares me. I ordered a watervfilterimg system from Berkey Filters. Seems about the best Imcould find. Water comes out room temperature, so Inkeep a glass pitcher in the refrigerator. I use Juice Beauty face products. You can get your hair colored at an Organic salon. Pricy, but a lot safer. They also sell organic shampoo and other hair products too. I just ordered pure Shea butter and coconut oil from Amazon to melt and cool and whip into body lotion. There are many DIY recipes for body lotions on Pinterest.

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited October 2015

    For anyone out there like me who never grew body hair back after chemo, just thought I'd do a quick post about eyebrows. I have wasted literally hundreds of dollars trying to "fake" some eyebrows. Pencils, waxes, stick-ons, powders, you name it. It all made me look like a clown and I disliked the work involved in all of them. A friend suggested the E.L.F. eyebrow kit, which I've seen a hundred times and always ignored because it cost 3 bucks. How good could it be? Picked some up today and wow!!! No more clown face. 30 second application time. I've had it on all day, nothing smeared, nothing bled, even sweaty and wiping my brow and shmooshing my face in a pillow. It's truly amazing and NO PARABENS. I feel like I won a lottery. Now I can just sit back with natural looking eyebrows and wait for it to be discontinued :)

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited October 2015

    Leggo, where did you purchase the eyebrow kit? I did a quick google and see there are eyebrow stencils included. Do you use them? My brows took a definite hit with chemo and I am left with brow envy! Always looking for a good product, I will try this!

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited October 2015

    Got it at the local drug store. No stencils in this one.

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  • cp418
    cp418 Member Posts: 7,079
    edited October 2015

    leggo - thanks for this product recommendation. I never regrew hair on legs or under arms which is fine. No more shaving!

    However, I've been left with half brows now. The missing brows really change the face and I just need a little touch up.

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited October 2015

    You're very welcome. Hope it works as good for you as it does for me. At least for 3 or 4 bucks you have nothing to lose. I had a good laugh today when stencils were mentioned. Me + stencils = drag queen.

    Forgot to mention, if you have NO eyebrows, you're definitely going to need a spoolie with this stuff.

  • cp418
    cp418 Member Posts: 7,079
    edited October 2015

    I recall during chemo they had one of the "Look Good - Feel Good" sessions where free makeup is provided. I know some ladies had very positive experiences but the one I attended was nothing to brag about. The cosmetic items were all chemical based with paraben preservatives - looked like left over stock and colors the local stores were unable to sell. No coordination of products or colors - junk stuff. The person doing the presentation did my naked eyebrows so poorly - think of an extreme Joan Crawford with black magic marker eyebrows approx 1/2 inch wide! Seriously - I have fair complexion - blond features. I can look back and laugh now but at the time it sure was a bad experience.

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited October 2015

    Please consider going over to this thread, and click on the link. You can send an email to your local people about stopping the use of these types of cosmetics with carcinogenic ingredients. Jackbirdie did excellent research.

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/110/topic/835444?page=1#top

  • Jenwith4kids
    Jenwith4kids Member Posts: 635
    edited October 2015

    thanks, glennie.

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited October 2015

    I need a few heads together on this. I use pump hand lotion at least 6 times a day or more so it's the most used personal care product I use. I've been avoiding the parabens, but when it comes to hand lotions, it seems that when the parabens and pthalates have been removed in so-called "organic, clean" products, they've been replaced with phenoxyethanol and sodium benzoate for, I assume, preservative and emulsifying purposes but I really don't know. Both have a fairly high hazard rating. I finally decided, screw it, I'm going to make my own. Here's where I've run in to trouble. The preserving I'm not worried about, but the emulsifying has been a pickle. I thought vegetable glycerin would work....that made bubbles :) Xanthan gum made it sticky. I know this can't be that hard, at least not any harder than making mayonnaise. Does anyone make their own? What non-toxic ingredient do you use to make it emulsify and pump-able. Any ideas welcome. I'm open to any and all science experiments. Most of the recipes on the web are for butters and jarred creams. I want a lotion, non-greasy. Any ideas? So far, these are the ingredients going in....beeswax, shea butter, aloe water, almond oil, tangerine oil. Emulsufier??? Staying viscous at room temperature??? I'm stuck.

  • labelle
    labelle Member Posts: 721
    edited October 2015

    Not sure if this is what you are looking for, but I use this as a body oil/lotion all over, including my hands. It makes everything, especially my cuticles, so soft.

    1/2 cup almond oil
    - 1/4 cup coconut oil melted
    - Essential Oil for whatever scent you like. (lemon/grapefruit/Ylang-Ylang, etc.)

    I just mix is all together (it does not seem to separate and stays liquid) and keep it in a wide mouthed jar (dip my fingers in) but you could put it in a pump dispenser I think. I sometimes use Naked Bee's brand lotion, but it can be pricey if you use a lot.

    You might also check out people who make homemade soaps online or locally in your area-the couple I buy my organic meats from also make soaps and hand lotions with no yucky stuff in them, but they don't ship/all local only. Still there must be others like them around: ingredients on my hand lotion from them: water, olive oil,coconut oil, e wax (stabilizer) vitamin e oil, plus essential oil (varies) for scent. It's white, comes in a pump and looks like regular lotion, but I have no idea how she makes it.
    -

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited October 2015

    Labelle, thank you! I never even thought of asking a soap maker. They probably know the chemistry involved in creams and lotions.

  • pandorashealth
    pandorashealth Member Posts: 14
    edited October 2015

    I love Desert Essence Green Apple and Ginger shampoo -- been using it for years and it's awesome and smells nice.

    Kiss My Face Pure Olive Oil soap is great for the shower but made a major mess when I tried to use it as hand soap near the bathroom sink. Can't recommend that. Instead I found Deep Steep foaming hand wash, which seems all right but is expensive. Grandpa's Chlorophyll Love-My-Loofah soap is also pretty cool for either shower or hand soap.

    Those are the ones I've found - still looking for a great deodorant, if anyone has succeeded in substituting toxic junk with something acceptable!

  • labelle
    labelle Member Posts: 721
    edited October 2015

    Leggo, I've noticed when I go to craft fairs/farmers' market kind of things that many people who used to just make homemade soaps seem to have expanded their product lines to include body and hand lotions. Hope you can find some you like but you still have to read the labels, even homemade doesn't always means safe.

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited October 2015

    pandora, I use Almay Clear Gel Antipersperant. It is fragrance free. It scores low, "1" on the skin deep website. If you go to their site, just plug in the word Antipersperant, and a long list comes up starting with the ones that score the lowest in toxicity levels.

  • Jenwith4kids
    Jenwith4kids Member Posts: 635
    edited October 2015

    Mrs. M, check the ingredient list on that Almay product. Even though the front of the bottle says fragrance free, "fragrance" is in the list of ingredients. "Fragrance" typically contains phthalates which are endocrine disruptors. It also contains aluminum, a known carcinogen that is biocumulative.

    I'd suggest using a deodorant and skipping antiperspirant. Our body needs to sweat, that's how it gets rid of toxins. Antiperspirants block our pores and trap toxins and bacteria.

    Jen

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited October 2015

    I use Tom's of Maine

  • flaviarose
    flaviarose Member Posts: 442
    edited October 2015

    I am very happy with my home made version which is coconut oil, baking soda and arrowroot. It really works. You can add essential oils for fragrance.

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited October 2015

    Thanks again Labelle. I know what you mean about the labels. Even most of the "natural" commercial products have some toxic stuff hidden in there somewhere. I recently made that big mistake. My regular brand of rose hip seed oil was sold out so I bought another and it was a different color and had a completely foreign smell. When I did some digging I found out it was solvent-extracted using hexane! No where on the label did it say ANYTHING about it not being cold-pressed.....and it was about the same price, so I just assumed. Silly me. I was so mad. That was a pricey thing to just throw out.

    Oh, and I found out from the local soap maker that to make non-greasy lotions, you just have to add some fine starch to the mix. Easy peasy.

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