SEPTEMBER 2015 Surgery Sisters

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  • KellyAnne13
    KellyAnne13 Member Posts: 63
    edited October 2015

    Yes yes yes abc_123. It is OK, you can't expect to got through this without emotion. It is a LOT. I too was certain with my decision for a BMX and thought I was prepared well. NOT! It just takes its toll. I think you need to give yourself permission to cry or scream or do anything you want right now. It will pass. With time everything gets easier.

  • Lharry
    Lharry Member Posts: 86
    edited October 2015

    So, I found out this morning when I went to a support group that many insurance companies and Medicare will cover post mastectomy bras. Both with and without prosthetics. How awesome is that? Some will even cover one bra per quarter per year!

    Check it out! And Nordstrom will fill out the paperwork for you if they can, or at the least will let you know what you need in order to qualify.

    Yep - your welcome.

  • cbwitt1970
    cbwitt1970 Member Posts: 65
    edited October 2015

    abc 123 I had BMX 1 week ago. My rt side was prophylactic. I too have cried everyday. Sometimes all out sobbing. I think for me it's a mixture of pain (because let's face it, it friggin hurts like hell!!!), raw emotion ( having your breasts removed), hormones, stress, and partly relief that it's behind you.

    I'm going to talk to the dr when I go back about either some anxiety med or an antidepressant to get me thru this painful time. I had thought I could push thru it but I am a wreck.

    This forum has been a huge support system for me. Even though I have a very supportive family & friends, they just cant fully understand what I'm going thru. Hang in there. We will be strong for each other!

    Catherine

  • rainnyc
    rainnyc Member Posts: 1,289
    edited October 2015

    KellyAnne, did you see the plastic surgeon today? Any progress?

    Stephmoen, sorry to hear about the missing tumor marker but SO very glad they found no residual cancer. Good luck with the mammo and fill.

    abc, I'm two weeks out today and find at every stage that as big problems go away, small ones crop up. Like, I didn't even notice the underarm pain until I was done with the big, post surgery pain. It's a process. I don't see any reason to turn away from emotions. It's a hard, hard process.

    And along those lines, I'm going back to see the BS tomorrow. I was a little surprised that he took out one of my three drains last Friday (two were putting out almost nothing, but this one was still up there). Sure enough, it has been leaking for the last day, and the dressing has pus in it. Yuck. I'm not running a fever, but he needs to drain it, and I have this feeling I'll be on antibiotics this time tomorrow. Double yuck.

    Lharry, yes, I recently found out about coverage for prosthetics. Very good news. The shop in our hospital tells me they fit at 6 weeks post surgery, and the silicone ones cost $300. Each. Bras $60-100. So it's a darn good thing insurance will cover. I'm fairly sure my insurance doesn't work with this shop, though, so will need to look elsewhere. Meanwhile, I've discovered this site, which has bras with foam inserts as well as coupons that make them very affordable. I've ordered three and will report back: http://shopcoobie.com/shop?c=coobie-bras

  • KellyAnne13
    KellyAnne13 Member Posts: 63
    edited October 2015

    Yes, Rainnyc, I saw the surgeon yesterday. After discussions with my oncologist and radiation oncologist i have decided that the most important thing for me right now is to proceed with radiation. I am scheduled to start at the end of Oct. That doesn't give me enough time to reconstruct the failed right side and heal before starting. My plastic surgeon's plan is to cut out the tissue that is completely dead in the next week or so and then do nothing further until I finish radiation and then heal from it. I will see him 3 months after radiation for him to assess things but probably won't do surgery until 6 months after. So. OMG, it will be next June before I have a right breast. In the meantime the left is partially inflated but we are going to leave it as is until the right can catch up. After many tears over the weekend I think I'm OK now. Living is much more important than a breast :)


  • 39andhip
    39andhip Member Posts: 164
    edited October 2015

    KellyAnne - Hang in there. What a difficult thing - such a long time to have to wait. :( You seem to have a good perspective, though, and now you will have something to look forward to at the end of radiation, aside from just being done with radiation. Hugs to you!

  • cchix49
    cchix49 Member Posts: 43
    edited October 2015

    @Lharry

    I got a camisole with soft inserts that medicare paid. I was allowed one camisole to wear until I am fitted for my booby bra. I am allowed 6 bras a year and silicone inserts every 2 years. I was pleasantly surprised.

  • cchix49
    cchix49 Member Posts: 43
    edited October 2015

    I am reading about so many ladies having depression and emotions after mx. I can join that club too. I wasn't expecting it. I wasn't told about it but with so many experiencing it, you would think the med folks would mention it. It's not severe for me but enough to be noticeable. It's not like I miss the ta-tas, I just feel sad and irritable. Sure this will pass too.

    I have good news. My echo cardiogram I had yesterday came back at 69%. So I will go back on herceptin in couple weeks. He wants to wait until I am 6 weeks post op. I will also start tamoxifen. And...DRUM ROLLLLL...my bone scan showed nothing. Thank you Lord!!

    Praying for my pink sisters and sending gentle (((Hugs))) your way (I am still so sore)

    my pink sisters




  • rainnyc
    rainnyc Member Posts: 1,289
    edited October 2015

    Cchix49, that's fabulous news, especially the bone scan. But also, glad your heart is pumping away properly! I personally feel that it would be crazy not to be sad and irritable at some point during this process. Because it is hard. Very hard.

    KellyAnne, we can be the founding members of the Waiting For Recon club if you like. I have ahead of me, to my knowledge, four rounds of AC, rads, and then after rads the BS says he'll hook me up with a PS, though I know that healing will have to happen before any recon. He wanted me to wait for rads before the consultation, though. So....

    Speaking of BS, I paid a special visit to his office today and am now the proud possessor of a weeklong dose of antibiotics. He and his nurse took a look at my oozy place and said it was perfectly normal. Reassuring, but maybe someone could have mentioned this might be a possibility?

    Signing off with warm fuzzy hopeful feelings that we're all on a path to recovery....

  • cbwitt1970
    cbwitt1970 Member Posts: 65
    edited October 2015

    Good evening ladies. I am 8 days post op & still so very sore. I still have 2 drains. Saw the BS today & he referred me to an oncologist. I see him tomorrow. This appt will determine what treatment I need moving forward.

    Sentinel lymph node bx was clear. So perhaps I can get by with no chemo or radiation. Crossing my fingers.

    Hope everyone in our little group is doing well. Much love & hugs!

    Catherine

  • rainnyc
    rainnyc Member Posts: 1,289
    edited October 2015

    Catherine, 15 days post op and sore, but not as sore as at 8 days. It's hard to see improvement day to day, but if I think back to three days ago, I can see the improvement. Got rid of the drains at 10, though my feeling is he should have kept the one in a little longer. I don't think it was ready. Hooray for clear sentinel node! And good luck with the MO.

  • abc_123
    abc_123 Member Posts: 12
    edited October 2015

    Thank you, KellyAnne13. It has definitely taken its toll. It took me so off guard. I am happy to have found this forum. It's new to me so I will continue to use it. 3 weeks out and today was for sure the best day yet, not without tears, however. I have yet to get through a day without tears. Maybe tomorrow. :)

  • abc_123
    abc_123 Member Posts: 12
    edited October 2015

    Thanks, Catherine (cbwitt1970) - I think you're right, it's ALL that and probably more. I am now going to physical therapy. The first thing I thought of was, "more appointments!" But she is a PT specializing in breast health/reconstruction and that has been helpful. Just to hear somewhat of a time frame "6-8 weeks" when it comes to pain/mobilty is helfpul, though I know everyone is different.

    I am grateful for this forum as it is so difficult to talk about it with anyone else. I find myself almost in hiding so that I don't sob in front of them. Tomorrow is a new day!

  • Stephmoen
    Stephmoen Member Posts: 563
    edited October 2015

    Rainnyc didn't you have a pcR why the added chemo and radiation? Just curious


  • Lharry
    Lharry Member Posts: 86
    edited October 2015

    Hi ladies!

    Today, 4 weeks and one day since my BMX, I FINALLY had my last two drains removed! WHOO HOO! It feels somewhat liberating! I was so sick of strapping that dang sack around my waste to hold them.

    Anyway, my PS filled me an additional 50cc's again. So far I've got 300cc's in the left TE and 250cc's in the right.

    I still find myself very hesitant to lift very much, as I can really feel it in my chest if I do. My range of motion is better too, but still not where it was. I use a small step stool to get ice out of the freezer (ice dispenser is broken), and as long as I use the stool, I'm fine. I don't think I would be able to reach the ice otherwise.

    I also think my pain is now tolerable. Typically the day after a fill, I will take a pain pill or 3 through out the day, just to ease off any discomfort, but other than that, I am doing well. Ready for the process to be complete, but doing well.

    Linda

  • rainnyc
    rainnyc Member Posts: 1,289
    edited October 2015

    It was an aggressive cancer, stage III and HER+. I had 4 months of Taxol/Herceptin/Perjeta before the surgery. Last time I saw the MO she said this was the likely path, i.e. more chemo and rads. Waiting for another appointment with her now that bmx is done; I haven't spoken with her since the BS gave me the path report.

  • Stephmoen
    Stephmoen Member Posts: 563
    edited October 2015

    ok thank you I just get nervous my drs all don't want me doing radiation say nothing showed I had lymphs involved although they didn't do SNB pre chemo which still bothers me..I just want to do all I can to keep this from coming back! F*#ck cancer!

  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,773
    edited October 2015

    Lharry so happy you got your drains out!  I had my last fill today.  Rads planning session on Monday.  

  • KellyAnne13
    KellyAnne13 Member Posts: 63
    edited October 2015

    Ohhhhh Rainyc I feel for you if you're heading into 4 rounds of AC chemo! I started with a lumpectomy immediately after diagnosis and then went straight into what was supposed to be 4 rounds of AC and then 4 rounds of Paclitaxel. I could not do the 4th AC, I just couldn't. That was even after lowering the dose of the 2nd and 3rd rounds to 80%. Then instead of 4 dose dense rounds of Paclitaxel I did 12 weekly doses. It was much better. I'm not trying to scare you, and in fact I've heard of many people who have made it through just fine, I'm just trying to prepare you. It wasn't a physical thing, I wasn't sick, it was mental. I was really unable to function. Please get on this board during your treatment if you're finding it rough. I WILL help you through it.

  • KellyAnne13
    KellyAnne13 Member Posts: 63
    edited October 2015

    And yes, lets start that Waiting for Recon thread...

  • PMR53
    PMR53 Member Posts: 452
    edited October 2015

    Hi All. My Right side MX with TE is in my  rear view mirror !! 730 am surgery. Recovery room by 1100 am.  I had somekind of a block put in by anesthesiology, PCA pain pump and they started me on oral percoset. Seriously minimal pain for now. I have 2 drains. My IV site hurts worse. Plastic surgeon put in 300 cc in OR so I am more than 1/2 done with fills.  This has been a blessed day and glad it is over. My best girl friend is also CNA and she is with me and spent night in room. Lots of laughs and wonderful assistance.  DH home with daughter.

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    Thank you all for your private messages and words of encouragement. Ready to heal and recover. 

    Patty

  • cbwitt1970
    cbwitt1970 Member Posts: 65
    edited October 2015

    I saw my oncologist this morning. He will be sending off to have my Oncotype Dx done. Should have results in 3 weeks. He said unless there are any surprises he thinks all I will have to do is Tamoxifen for 10 yrs. Fingers crossed on that one!

    I'm still sore as can be & seeing PS today @ 3:30. Hopefully he will pull these last 2 drains out.

    Hope everyone is feeling good.

    Catherine

  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,773
    edited October 2015

    Good luck Catherine! PMR53, aren't the pain blocks amazing? My umx hurt less than my Lx because of the pain blocker port.

  • rainnyc
    rainnyc Member Posts: 1,289
    edited October 2015

    KellyAnne, I honestly don't know. The MO told me in July she thought that I'd be doing the AC x 4. And I suspect that is still the case. It is what it is; I just keep telling myself I can take anything for 8 weeks.

    Patty, glad it's over and hope you continue to be as pain free as possible. Love the Halloween picture!

    Catherine, are the drains out??

    It does still amaze me how much energy this healing takes. 15 days out, I have to keep reminding myself the BS said 4 weeks. I can do so much more, but I'm still spending most of the day on the couch. If I try to do too much, I pay the price. Thank goodness for that tote bag full of cheesy magazines a friend dropped off. It has been years since I've spent so much time reading so much junk!

  • PMR53
    PMR53 Member Posts: 452
    edited October 2015

    Rainny- I am home now and I am doing fine. My BFF and DH made dinner. Taking a pain med q 4 hours. I think the block has worn off but not sure. Not having that much pain yet? 

    CBWitt.- so glad you will get drains out and no chemo!!!!

    Molly- when did your pain block wear off? I think it must work really good. 

    Patty

  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,773
    edited October 2015

    My block wore off about 24 hours after discharge. It was the best part of surgery. I plan to ask for the same treatment with my next surgery.

  • cbwitt1970
    cbwitt1970 Member Posts: 65
    edited October 2015

    Yes!!! No chemo or radiation. Best news ever!!!

    And all drains are out!! Thank you Jesus!!!

    But ladies...I am having a problem. And I need some help & input. When I saw PS on Monday & he removed 2 of the 4 drains, I experienced the most excruciating pain I have ever felt in my life when the drain on the right was removed(non cancer side). I assumed it would subside. It only got worse. I patiently waited until today to get the remaining drain out on that side. It wasn't too bad being removed today. But the pain is no better. The best way I can describe it is a burning, throbbing pain. I can't even stand for clothing to touch it. It has literally brought me to tears this week. Hurts more than the 1st few days after surgery and is getting increasingly worse. I was telling my mom about it & she said it sounded like nerve pain. What do you guys think? I am praying that it calms down & I can just move forward & proceed with my tissue expansion. My 1st tissue expansion is scheduled for Monday. But I can't even imagine getting that done if this pain remains...

    HELP!!! What should I do😢 I am in terrible pain

  • Gardnergirls
    Gardnergirls Member Posts: 89
    edited October 2015

    Catherine, Sorry about the pain near the drain sites, did you mention this to the dr? My sites are sore but not that bad. I still have this last drain and it was three weeks today since surgery!! I see the breast surgeon tomorrow but my numbers have still been around 35-40ml. I don't think she's going to take it. 😞 plastic surgeon said that if she doesn't take it tomorrow that I'll need to see him next Tuesday. They have had me on an antibiotic, third round!He has already started the expansion two times now. Not bad, just pressure for about a day.

    Wish me luck!!

  • cbwitt1970
    cbwitt1970 Member Posts: 65
    edited October 2015

    Gardnergirls, thank you for your response! I'm so sorry you still have a drain. Gosh I really hated them! I never had that much output. The most I had at one time was 25ml. Even though it really sucks to have them, you want it there until your output slows down. You don't want to develop a seroma😞

    I'm so glad to hear about your expansion. I have been so worried that it would be painful! I didn't realize I was such a wussy! I always thought I was tough. But I guess I'm not😳 And I cry at the drop of a hat. Which is a new development. Guess my hormones are a little wacky. And my emotions are all over the place!

    Good luck with your treatment. You will do great!

  • Gardnergirls
    Gardnergirls Member Posts: 89
    edited October 2015

    Catherine, we are all stronger than we think!! Crying has been a daily event with me as well! We will all come out of this better ladies then we were headed into this! I believe we all have a mission and we will all fight!! I know I have been a little calmer after surgery than I was before. Blood pressure sky rocketed and then the day after surgery all back to normal, just strange.

    Hang in there!

    Debbi

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