Starting Chemo May 2015

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  • Shanann
    Shanann Member Posts: 106
    edited September 2015

    congrats Steflove!! I am so excited for you!!

  • tjh
    tjh Member Posts: 469
    edited September 2015

    We have finished or are finishing chemo, surgeries are healing, hair is growing back, feeling better...When do we stop worrying that it will come back? Or am I the only one who worries?

  • rosesrx
    rosesrx Member Posts: 458
    edited September 2015

    Tjh, as peggy said on other thread everyone is different. First time around in 2010 a car accident stopped me from obsessing about bc in general. There is always the daily reminder. I was more concerned with what the tamoxifen would cause so always circling crazy town. This time not so much recurrance , just wondering when chemo fatigue will ease. It does fade.

  • CatsRus
    CatsRus Member Posts: 310
    edited September 2015
    tjh, you are definitely not on your own. I don't obsess about it all day but I'd say I think about it every day. I hope time is a healer, but somehow I don't think the worry will ever leave completely.
  • JenJenJen
    JenJenJen Member Posts: 39
    edited September 2015

    Congratulations Steflove!!

    tjh, I also worry all the time. Any little thing that comes up, like pain somewhere, I always think of recurrence or something has spread. I don't think we will every stop worrying. Hopefully it will just be less with time.

  • StefLove
    StefLove Member Posts: 322
    edited September 2015

    thanks ladies!!!

    tjh, I'm hoping my worrying subsides a bit but it definitely hasn't yet. :( Any time I feel a pain, a stress. And of course now I'm stressing that waiting 6 weeks between chemo and rads (bc of surgery) is goign to cause a recurrence. Ugh.

  • tjh
    tjh Member Posts: 469
    edited September 2015

    it is good not to be alone in this...I do have DH and he is fantastic but he doesn't totally understand....Rads is one treatment I get to skip. My Dr's all thought that with the family history of melenoma, radiating my moles was not a good idea. So we did the mastectomy and chemo.

  • Shanann
    Shanann Member Posts: 106
    edited October 2015

    Ladies- On Wednesday I received #10 of 12 Taxols. Yea, me- I'm almost finished. Two more to go, and I get my port out on October 20th. Having said that, I am experiencing some numbness in all my fingers (no tingling, just feels like I sat on my hand for a long time). My mouth is also a tad bit numb on and off. I called, and was told that they may reduce the amount of Taxol that they give me on the next treatment. UGH! They also said they could give me something if it got worse. Scary stuff.

  • StefLove
    StefLove Member Posts: 322
    edited October 2015

    Shanann, almost there!!! does the numbness come and go or is it constant? I know they kept asking me that when I told them I had tingling and/or numbness.

  • Shanann
    Shanann Member Posts: 106
    edited October 2015

    Steflove- I would say that it comes and goes in right hand, but is fairly constant in my left hand (lumpectomy side). I also have a little numbness in my toes; especially on the left side. I wonder what that means? I don't have tingling; just a numbness. It feels like when you've slept on your hand, and it's gone to sleep BEFORE the pins and needles, I guess. It's so weird. The nurse who administers my Infusions was concerned about it the first few times she gave me Taxol saying, "Let me know, because it will happen while you're getting an infusion, because it's an allergic reaction." My Oncologist told me I might have a little numbness, or maybe nothing. So, I wasn't sure if this is something that needs to be reported, which I did, or something I have to endure. I know I don't want it to get worse! HELP!

  • JenJenJen
    JenJenJen Member Posts: 39
    edited October 2015

    Yay Shanann! You are almost there! Will be counting down with you!

    I also had numbness on my fingertips and on my tongue but it comes and goes. I told my MO about it prior to my last Taxol treatment and she told me that if it persists and gets worse, she will reduce the dose of Taxol. I am now two months PFC and still have some numbness on the fingertips that comes and goes but has improved a lot. I would say that it does take some time to go away. When I do feel it, (keep in mind that I haven't been really compliant with taking it), I do take 100mg vitamin B6. Not sure if it's just placebo effect but figured it can't hurt. It's supposed to help with the neuropathy. I honestly didn't take it during treatment but only took it when I felt the numbness so not sure if it really helped.

    Stay strong ladies :)

  • Shanann
    Shanann Member Posts: 106
    edited October 2015

    Thank you Jenjenjen. I have been taking both B 6 and D3 (5,000) I.U.) daily since I began chemo. I eat kale and chicken livers to keep my iron up. So, great! Treament #11 of 12 today. They gave me Gabapentin for the nueropathy. Another pill, y e a . I wondering if I should NOT take this pill... and just ride it out? I' took one this evening after chemo, and I have a slight headache. I never get headaches. But, the numbness in my fingers is definitely deminished a lot. Thanks for being there!! Hang in there, Ladies.

  • Shanann
    Shanann Member Posts: 106
    edited October 2015

    No wonder my B6 is not working. I checked, and I am actually taking B Complex. I'm going to the store!

  • tjh
    tjh Member Posts: 469
    edited October 2015

    B6 is what the oncologist prescribed during chemo when my feet turned angry red, blistered and bled. It took about 2 weeks before I could comfortably walk on them. Now almost 3 months after last chemo my finger tips and bottoms of my feet are mostly numb. But it is improving since right after chemo my whole hands were numb and my toes. Hang in there Shanann, you are almost done:)

  • Shanann
    Shanann Member Posts: 106
    edited October 2015

    How many milligrams of B-6? I bought 100 mg. My mother is going to give me the name of something her doctor recommended. Her doctor (V.A. Center) is undergoing radiation after going thru chemo for IDC, and she developed Neuropathy, and has suggested something, but I have to go look at the name and look it up, then ask if I can take while still doing chemo. This doctor swears by it, so if it's good, I'll share the name of it-

    Here's what I've found out about this nasty side effect of Taxol (and, some other chemo drugs):


    People are encouraging me with comments, like ' you're almost done!'

    I have ONE more treatment. However, I have developed chemo-induced peripheral neuropathy, and there are a multitude of symptoms, but I'm only going to list MY symptoms- so far. I know that probably most women on Taxol have had to deal with this frightening side effect. I am looking into some natural remedies, so if anyone has any suggestions, I'm all ears.

    My symptoms began in my toes after treatment #10. It didn't seem like a huge deal. My fingers and hands were numb, and my lip was a little numb as well. The feeling is like that of when you've had a shot of Novocaine at the dentist's office . I thought this to be something I just had to endure. Then, after treatment #11- I freaked out, because not only are my toes, fingers, and the palms of my hands numb, but my face is numb- the eye area, checks, lips, and throat are numb. Oy vey!

    I am taking Vitamin B-6, and a Gabapentin. This is FREAK eee.

    What is chemotherapy-induced peripheral neuropathy or CIPN?
    Peripheral neuropathy is a set of symptoms caused by damage to the nerves that are away from the brain and spinal cord. These distant nerves are called peripheral nerves. They carry sensations (feeling) to the brain and control the movement of our arms and legs. They also control the bladder and bowel.

    Some of the chemotherapy and other drugs used to treat cancer can damage peripheral nerves. When this happens it is called chemotherapy-induced peripheral neuropathy (CIPN). This can be a disabling side effect of cancer treatment.

    The symptoms or signs of chemo-induced peripheral neuropathy (CIPN) depend mostly on which nerves are involved. The most common symptoms are:

    Loss of feeling (which can be numbness or just less ability to sense pressure, touch, heat, or cold)
    Trouble using your fingers to pick up or hold things; dropping things
    Balance problems
    Trouble with tripping or stumbling while walking
    Being more sensitive to cold or heat
    Being more sensitive to touch or pressure
    Constipation

    CIPN can cause severe pain and can affect your ability to do things like walk, write, button your shirt, or pick up coins. If it gets very bad, it can cause more serious problems like changes in your heart rate and blood pressure, dangerous falls, trouble breathing, paralysis, or organ failure.

    Talk to your doctor or nurse right away about any symptoms of CIPN that you have. They'll want to watch you closely to see if the problems get worse. They may need to change your treatment plan.

    Chemo drugs spread through the whole body, and certain types of chemo can damage different nerves. Symptoms tend to start farthest away from the head, but move closer over time. In most cases, people will notice chemo-induced peripheral neuropathy (CIPN) symptoms in the feet, then later on in the hands. Symptoms may start in the toes, but move on to the ankles and legs. Likewise, symptoms can move up from the fingers to the hands and arms.

    CIPN most often affects both sides of the body in the same way. When it affects both hands and both feet, doctors may call it a stocking-glove distribution.

    CIPN can begin any time after treatment starts. It often gets worse as treatments go on.

  • rainnyc
    rainnyc Member Posts: 1,289
    edited October 2015

    Shanann, I also had neuropathy in my toes starting around treatment 11. (I was really lucky and got to do 18 treatments before bmx last month.) It has progressed a little but not much, and I can live with it if it doesn't get better.

    I also had it in the lips, radiating outward into my face. But I finally traced that to the Benadryl they gave me as a pre-med. It was really freaky and made me feel high. I mentioned it to one of the chemo nurses, and she was able to get my MO to switch from Benadryl to hydroxyzine, which causes no side effects that I can tell. So I don't know if Benadryl was causing the symptoms or making the neuropathy from the Taxol worse, but I do know that once I stopped the Benadryl, I never had the face symptoms again. Good luck!

  • Shanann
    Shanann Member Posts: 106
    edited October 2015

    Oh that is VERY encouraging! The face numbing is so freaky. I will ask about that with my last treatment on Wednesday. Thank you so much!

  • Shanann
    Shanann Member Posts: 106
    edited October 2015

    Well, after getting #11 Taxol I got worse!! I had it in my fingers/hands, toes/feet, and my face (Eyes, nose, mouth, and neck). It scared the heck out of me. I decided that I was going to call the office before #12 was due, so that I could demand an alternative to this last treatment. So, I called the nurse practitioner today to discuss those Taxol alternatives for my last treatment, because of the neuropathy and how it was scaring the heck out of me. When she answered the phone I said, "Hi. My name is Shan. I am supposed to receive my 12th treatment of Taxol on Wednesday."
    She interrupted, "Oh, you are done! You are NOT getting another treatment!" She went on to explain...
    Bottom line--
    I am done!! No more chemo!! Port out the 20th, then on to 6 weeks of radiation. I can't tell you how happy that made me.

    My mother sees a female doctor at the V.A., and she told my mother to have me take Life Extensions, Mega Benfotianmine (B-1 soluable) for the neuropathy, so I will be getting some of that soon..

  • tjh
    tjh Member Posts: 469
    edited October 2015

    Congratulations!

  • rainnyc
    rainnyc Member Posts: 1,289
    edited October 2015

    Shanann, hooray! Glad to hear it!

  • rosesrx
    rosesrx Member Posts: 458
    edited October 2015

    glad to hear no more chemo Shannan!!! And being deported in a week woo hoo

  • Shanann
    Shanann Member Posts: 106
    edited October 2015

    Thanks Ladies! You are all so supportive. This neuropathy is scary stuff. I guess it will subside in a few weeks. Going today to radiology to get tattooed. Fun!! And, to tell the nurses who administered my chemo 'goodbye'. I made a few scarves, and am taking them gourmet cookies. I guess they will access my port one last time to draw blood. Thank you again for all your support. You are all in my thoughts and prayers, and in my heart!

    =Shan

  • sharapril1021
    sharapril1021 Member Posts: 42
    edited October 2015

    Hello All!

    I've been off the boards for a while since my kids school year finally kicked into gear. They have so many days off in September with the Jewish holidays and staff in service days that I always said that school starts in October. First off:

    Steflove and Shanann- Congrats for completing your chemo!! Yay!!! I was like you StefLove, very emotional but excited on the last treatment. I finished on 9/8 and I too am experiencing neuropathy in my toes and fingertips which my oncology nurses said that that was the biggest side effect of most patients. I am hoping in time that it gets better. I am also getting hot flashes at least 3-4 times a day which I am still not use too but dealing with them.

    MySunshine48 & CatRus - I have about 2 eyelash on my left eye and about 6 on my right. During chemo I had them all but when I stopped they started to fall out. I wish they would grow back faster but for now my girlfriend is going to show me how to apply false ones. My eyebrows are slowing coming back in but I still use a pencil because they are very sparse.

    Magnolia83 - I wish you all the best on reaching the finish line...the end of chemo...yay!!

    As for me, I met with my BS on 9/30 - my tumor shrunk a great deal but still not a candidate for a lumpectomy because she still wasn't confident that she could get clean negative margins. That wasn't shocking news for me since I had already decided on the double mastectomy given all my issues with dense tissue and a gazillion cysts, I didn't want to always be wondering what would come about in my left breast years from now and if I had to go under for the right you might as well do the left. I am a very tiny person (barely a 34A) and my breasts don't define who I am as a person so I am okay with letting them go. I had a sentinel node biopsy done this past Monday and today got crappy news that there is cancer present so during my mastectomy surgery on 10/27, she's got to go in and take out more tissue. I was really, really hoping that with me doing chemo before surgery it would kill the cancer but it didn't. I was having reconstruction at the same time but now I am wondering since I will have to do radiation if that is a good idea? I've heard from a friend who had to go through this and didn't have a good outcome, so I am struggling on what to do. "Do I just do the mastectomy with no reconstruction now " or "Do I do the reconstruction and hope the radiation doesn't affect the tissue expanders." It sucks that I have to make a decision pretty quick because surgery is in 5 days.

    Thanks for letting me vent - it's been a lousy day but I'm hoping tomorrow gets better.

    Have a good night everyone!


  • rosesrx
    rosesrx Member Posts: 458
    edited October 2015

    Sharapril, sorry for the sentinel node news. Gentle hugs to you.

    Tough decision, have you had any input from RO? Or just BS and PS? You have to do what you are comfortable with. Will be praying for you for an uneventful recovery.

  • tjh
    tjh Member Posts: 469
    edited October 2015

    Sharapril...I knew going in that I would have a mastectomy even though lumpectomy was recommended. I didn't have to do rads and my lymph nodes were clear. Talk to surgeons....Maybe focus on getting rid of cancer first? Sending hugs and prayers your way.

  • StefLove
    StefLove Member Posts: 322
    edited October 2015

    sharapril, vent away! when you say they're taking out more tissue, do you mean they're taking out more nodes or tissue in the node area? I'm having my surgery Wednesday and they're taking out more nodes for me. :( I had an MRI last week and there were nodes that still looked enlarged and 'off'. Just frustrating so I feel you pain!

  • sharapril1021
    sharapril1021 Member Posts: 42
    edited November 2015

    Hi Everyone!

    My surgery went extremely well on 10/27. I opted to not do reconstruction at the time of surgery because I spoke with several friends who had similar procedures and had complications with radiation and the tissue expanders. I stayed in the hospital for 2 days and then came home which the only hard part is that I can't get comfortable sleeping straight up with the 3 drains but tomorrow they will all come out...YAY!! My BS is out of the office this week so her colleague, will be taking them out as well as sharing the path news with me. As of yesterday they did not have the results yet. I will share my news tomorrow after my appointment.

    StefLove- my BS took out additional nodes but she said they didn't look enlarged or indifferent from the first 3 she moved at the time of the biopsy and was completely shocked the initial path report came back positive. I am keeping my fingers crossed and staying positive that this report will come back negative.


  • CatsRus
    CatsRus Member Posts: 310
    edited November 2015

    stay positive Sharapril. Wishing you good news tomorrow. Be healthy!


  • tjh
    tjh Member Posts: 469
    edited November 2015

    Sharapril...Stay strong and postive...will keep you in thoughts and prayers.

  • rosesrx
    rosesrx Member Posts: 458
    edited November 2015

    will be in your pocket sharapril. Stay strong and ask questions.

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