Stop Drinking Support Thread
So I've seen a stop smoking support thread and a drinking thread, so I'm just curious if there is a stop drinking support thread? I searched and did not find one... I'm curious to hear from people who have given up alcohol, who are trying to give up alcohol, or who are at least contemplating it.
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Bumping to keep this topic active.
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Thanks, Racy!
Seriously... no takers? I think I must have some sort of record for the greatest number of threads no one responds to. LOL. I never knew my problems were so unique!
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Hi, I bumped your topic because I understand the issue you are having. I have also tried to give up alcohol without great success.
When I was first diagnosed with bc I gave up 'cold turkey' the same day and did not drink for several months but restarted after that.
I've tried counselling but the fact is I enjoy alcohol. I also got to the point of requesting medication (Revia) which acts on the brain to remove the sensation of enjoyment associated with drinking, but I have never actually taken it!
There are other discussions here on the topic. If you search for the word alcohol you may find them. I'll have a look and bump one that may be useful.
If you want to give up or limit, I suggest talk to your doctor about it in the first instance.
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@Racy - Thanks. I have had very little to drink recently, but it has been easy because with all the surgeries I've had, I haven't felt like it. I'm not a big party-goer or anything, but... being part French, I really enjoy wine with dinner! I'm really wondering if I can give that up forever. Like you, I enjoy it.
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I have decided that I am absolutely not going to give it up. There are a zillion things we can do or not do, but really, would you invest your last dollar in any of these theories. I went crazy initially trying to learn everything and do everything right. I just drove myself crazy. I do weigh much less and am in excellent physical condition, which I hope to maintain, but the wine is back on the table. Moderation is key of course, but I push that button too. A glass or two is part of who I am and will always be. Now that does not help the persons here who wanst help to quit. The help will depend on specifics like how much you want to cut back. It is very specific to each person. If you provide specifics, I have lots of suggestions that worked for me the first year before I had the "reverse" New Year's Resolution. Lol
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I like wine but not the calories. Still struggling to get back in the 120 pound range.
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I've carefully watched my intake since my diagnosis. I wasn't a huge drinker before, but I too enjoy wine with dinner, or beer. In the two years before my diagnosis I had taken up the hobby of homebrewing my own beer. I haven't wanted to continue that hobby since diagnosis, the equipment is just sitting in my basement. I automatically associated the hobby with BC. I read a bunch of studies and talked to my MO and now am very careful to have no more than 5 drinks per week. The fact is that moderate consumption reduces heart disease (a common killer), but too much alcohol raises the risk of getting BC.
Here are a few interesting studies I found: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20805458
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23150063
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23569314
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Thank you all for the comments. I appreciate the different perspectives.
@TB90 - I agree. If you read lists of things that increase your risks of BC or X, Y, or Z, it will pretty much make you nuts. I'm just trying not to let my strong desire to not stop drinking wine interfere with my ability to be objective about which risk factors merit serious consideration.
@Meow13 - Yes! If there's one plus to not drinking alcohol, it's the decreased calories. I've always said the only way I can easily maintain my ideal weight is to not drink alcohol, but... that's no fun. What is an extra 3-4 pounds?
@SummerAngel - My husband and I used to brew beer, too, though we haven't in a long time - pretty much since having kids. (It was mostly his thing, and I just did what he told me to.) Fortunately the beer never tasted that great, so it's not hard to give up! I'm not a huge beer drinker anyway, and I usually only have mixed drinks on special occasions, so those aren't hard for me to give up for the most part. It's really the wine that is the dilemma! I did put on my medical history forms that I have 5-7 drinks/week and no one has said anything about it to me, so... I'm leaning toward limiting myself to like 3-4 drinks/week but realistically don't ever see it being 0. Then again, we do live in CO; maybe I should just start getting high instead. LOL.
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I am not a huge proponent of drinking, especially if you already do not. But I rarely hear anyone on these boards admit that they even or ever drink and here we all are with breast cancer. Beesie was a master at interpreting study results and believe me, that is no easy art. I miss her dearly. Search Beesie and Alcohol and you will find the one study that shows two drinks a day and your life long increase is about 1%. There are many things we do that increase our odds much greater than that. Now if you want to unturn every pepple on the beach like I initially did, you may think that by leaving just one pepple will cause your cancer to come back. Like I said, I made myself sick thinking this way and it took my amazing oncology psychiatrist to put me back together, even with a little wine. And I was looking for support for my drinking, so I do understand your fear. I have just controlled my drinking much more carefully, eat lots of natural form folate, exercise and breath. Like my psychiatrist stated, they are so quick to ban alcohol, but how about monitoring your weight just as closely and exercise, which has shown even greater benefit. He must like wine too
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My problem is that when I have glass of wine I tend to eat more and lose track of my calorie intake. My self control tends to go out the wiindow. When I was at my ideal weight I was only drinking water, no fun but I really liked being on the happy side of 130 pounds. It is amazing to feel so light.
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@TB90 - Someone on another thread mentioned that smoking seemed like a taboo subject, but it seems like drinking is as well. Maybe it is the 'It's my fault' mentality that a lot of us carry. Maybe people are afraid if that if they admit that they aren't willing to give up alcohol, it's like saying they don't care if the cancer comes back. But like you said, there are many factors.
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I like wine (or is it I liked wine?). I used to have a glass almost every night (maybe 5 or 6 nights a week) and on fairly rare occasions 2 so I put 5-7 drinks a week on my medical forms and nobody mentioned a thing. I in fact am scared because other life stuff got bad over the summer (soon after diagnosis) and I drank way more wine than that for a month or two.
It wasn't until I felt like I could crawl out from under and breathe about a month ago (3.5 months post diagnosis) that I read up on it and stopped.
I've not found it hard to stop but I do miss how it tasted and the act of sitting down with a glass and a book or a t.v. show once the kids were in bed and the dishes done(warm milk or a Diet Coke just doesn't cut it yet) and I am worried and don't know just how to bring up with my dr (or even if it is worthwhile to bring up now I know better and have stopped) that I've made things way worse.
Anyhow, anew normal I suppose.
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I gave up alcohol after doing some research about how it increases your risk factors for breast cancer. I quit about 3 months after my diagnosis. It's been about a year now since I stopped.
I totally respect everyone's right to make their own choice about this as the data is certainly not black and white.
I do miss it from time to time. But another major reason for why I have probably quit for good is that I just felt like it had too much control over me before when I was a drinker. I loved that 5:00 happy hour a little too much, and I must confess the happy hour was pretty much a daily thing.
I did not drink a lot every day, but 2 glasses of wine was pretty common. And I found it hard to stop at 2 glasses sometimes.
So the increased breast cancer risk along with what I perceived as its having too much control over me was what made me make the decision. And like I said, I have probably quit for good.
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I'll admit I drank like a fish through my 20's and 1/2 of my 30's. In all honestly probably a functioning alcoholic. I was never physically addicted but I liked (like?) the mental release. When I got pregnant I quit immediately and felt fine, just a slightly more boring version of myself. Once I had my kid and some daily medicine that didn't mix I toned it down to 2 times a week. My husband and I would split a 12 pack and play drinking games with our favorite tv shows. I miss those care free times, although without me knowing it I was probably working on killing myself. Last time I drank was for our anniversary (early October) and I've had surgery and antibiotics since then and haven't thought much about it. I'm SO stressed I feel the need to "check out" so in lieu of beer I tried a pot brownie (legal here in Washington) and it sucked. But, if no alcohol will help my chances of getting to see my little boy grown up, then no alcohol it is. I just need to find a new hobby, stress reliever, and fun time mechanism. Cross stitching anyone?
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I think I am drinking more now than before my diagnosis. My husband and I would enjoy a cocktail in the evening. Now we have traveled to Napa the last 3 years and are really enjoying wine in the evenings and sharing with friends. So now we are drinking 2 glasses almost every evening. I have given it up for weeks, but actually since being Stage 4 last year, I kind of feel like"what the hell"? Will quitting give me 2 more weeks of life.
I do want to quit loving my wine, but every evening it calls my name. I walk in the pool for an hour 3-4 times a week, so I am getting some excercise. Any tips out there
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I've pretty much given up alcohol since my diagnosis with Stage IV (three years ago) because I am afraid of the se's when combining my meds with wine (or single malt) - I live alone and don't want to be the old lady they find dead in her apartment X days later! Also the effect of alcohol on our livers - glad I saved mine for the latest abuse.
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Thank you all for your comments. For those of you who were regular drinkers who stopped, I am curious how? Cold turkey? Any strategies? As JBeans said, warm milk or diet coke just don't cut it... I didn't drink when I was pregnant because alcohol was repulsive to me (along with a lot of other things) but unfortunately I don't have that going for me now!
@PezGal - OMG, I am also in state with legalized marijuana, and one of my friends brought me a pot granola bar for post surgery, and yeah, it sucked! I even shared it with two other friends, and the next day we were all like WTF?! I actually voted to legalize marijuana, but there should seriously be some sort of warning label on it or something. LOL.
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