Single sided mastectomy?

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27heart
27heart Member Posts: 151
edited October 2015 in Breast Reconstruction

Hi all, I was looking for threads on this topic but I couldn't find much information on this. I need to do mx on my left breast, and I was told that my right breast is at "high risk" of getting cancer In the future. But when asked about how much higher, my bs said that it's about 5% more.

I am considering doing mx on my left breast, and preventive mx on my right. Mainly because I want to lessen the chances of getting ca again in the future, and also because I want to balance out my implants.

My doctors think I'm being rash as I will lose sensation on my right breast too, and I shouldn't remove anything "more than I should". I understand that the choice is mine, but could some of you share your choices with me, and the reasons behind them please?

I'm very concerned about how my breasts will look post surgery, I want to look the best I could. On the other hand, I am reluctant to lose sensations of my right nipple. What do you think?

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  • MEG2
    MEG2 Member Posts: 114
    edited September 2015

    Hi 27heart ~ I made the decision to take only one breast, and had a single MX on my left breast in November of 2013 after 8 rounds of chemo.

    Because I had chemo first I had a few months to decide what to do at surgery time. My BS explained to me that taking both breasts (double MX) did not change my chance of recurrence. The worry would be the cancer that I'd already had and taking the other breast wasn't going to change that. In my mind taking the other breast out of fear of another cancer was letting fear win; letting the cancer win. I didn't want to create any more pain and scars than necessary and didn't want to lose all feeling in my chest. I know that there could be a possibility of another cancer in the healthy breast but I made a conscious, educated decision to deal with that risk.

    I had a chance to meet with my PS prior to the MX to discuss reconstruction options and had further discussions with my BS and oncologist about my choices. I felt very good at the time of the surgery about my decision and still feel I made the right choice for me. I had a DIEP/TRAM recon a year after my MX in November of 2014, then in July of this year (2015) I had the right breast lifted to match the recon and had an areola and nipple created from the skin removed from the right breast lift. I am very pleased with the result, the breasts have great symmetry; they are not perfect but they weren't perfect prior to my MX. My PS did a great job of giving me a very "real" breast in look and feel, if someone saw my breasts today they would see the redness on my recon from radiation but otherwise the scars are minimal and I expect those to continue to lighten up as the years go by.

    My PS had before and after photos of all different types of breast reconstruction; implants and otherwise, just one breast or two so I had a view into his work. I asked a lot of questions about different options. I was told implants make the most sense when you are doing a double MX because it is easier to match the breasts; doing one implant and a lift on the healthy breast doesn't get the same results as a DIEP and breast lift...there is a lot of information out there to sort through. I happened to know 2 people who had the same surgery as me and they happily showed me their "work" and that gave me the boost I needed to make my decision.

    I also understand why someone would chose to do a double MX as well. It is a very personal decision and much of it will depend on your age, lifestyle, personal choices and many other factors. No matter which option you chose it will be the right one for you; there is no right or wrong here. Make the choice that is going to make you feel at your best when all is said and done. Best wishes to you, you'll do great!

    Mary

  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited September 2015

    I just did the left. DIEP looks good nice match. I think the real worry is not local breast recurrence but distant Mets that can kill you.

  • 27heart
    27heart Member Posts: 151
    edited September 2015

    Hi meg2 and meow13, thanks for sharing your choices! Any other ladies who went through a similar thought process? I'm prone to be impulsive, I don't want a future me to be hating on myself. Perhaps I'll share more about myself here too. I'm 27, and currently have DDs. I'm also considering downsizing because my frame is small.. And I've been struggling with looking "vulgar" all my life. Think I have esteem issues from it.. Which my psych is trying to sort out with me now.

    I do have infected lymph nodes between my sternum, so I suppose I have mets. Should I really not worry so much about the other boob for now?

    I'm seeing my ps tomorrow for the first time. I'll remember to ask for lots of pictures. Thanks for reminding me!

    Anyone else could share their experiences please?

  • grammakathy
    grammakathy Member Posts: 407
    edited September 2015

    I did this in a step by step process. I had a left side Mx for the cancer and a SNB. Then I waited for the pathology report to see if radiation would be needed. Next was the appointment with the MO to have the Oncotype DX test. More waiting for results - they came in at 11 so no chemo was recommended. Next I met with a PS to discuss TEs and a prophylactic Mx. The advantage to having her do it was that she was more attentive to the appearance of my breast, and there was no need to take lymph nodes (which left a gouge in the side of my left breast from the first surgery.). Since I was doing TEs at the same time on two sides, she was able to get them to match and I only had to go through the filling, waiting and exchange one time. This entire process from diagnosis of BC to final exchange of TEs for implants took a full year. Nine months after that I had 3D tattooing. I am very happy with how it all came out. I used the year of treatment to focus on losing the extra pounds that I had put on during 47 years of marriage. I haven't looked this good since I because pregnant with our first child in 1973. Best wishes with your decisions!

  • MEG2
    MEG2 Member Posts: 114
    edited September 2015

    Heart ~ keep us posted on your PS visit.

    They will have some advice for you for sure on keeping or not keeping your other breast, having a reduction, etc..just be sure you think it all through. My BS and my Oncologist were great in giving me advice outside of the PS opinion (they typically go for perfection so might suggest a double MX because they can get better symmetry that way or try and tell you that you should be afraid of not taking the other breast etc...). I think getting an opinion from several people will help you make the best choice. Are you married, dating, do you have a spouse or significant other who might want to weigh in on this? I talked it over with my friends too, just looking at different sides was helpful. I am much older than you; 50 almost 51 at diagnosis but when my BS told me that I would lose all intimate feeling on the MX side and the same on the other if I did a double MX that was part of the decision for me. While I am divorced and have been for quite a while I still look forward to being in a relationship and wasn't willing to give up feeling on my chest as part of an intimate relationship; as I said above I am prepared for the risk (although small) that may bring. These aren't easy decisions and I am sorry you have to go through this at such a young age. Good for you for seeking advice and looking at change to help you get through this journey.

    Mary


  • 27heart
    27heart Member Posts: 151
    edited September 2015

    Hi all, I've decided to share a detailed experience of my first visit to my PS today, perhaps it could benefit some.

    Background: I'm having an early stage IV bc on my left ta-ta. Right ta-ta seems to be hanging fine now, but as we know, it has a higher risk of falling sick in the future.

    Today's my first visit to my PS, he's experienced in performing breast reconstruction for BC patients. After a short get-to-know-each-other session, I was brought into a separate room to have my measurements and photographs taken. We then sat down to discuss options, and address my concerns. The main concern about breast recon seems to be symmetry, and we spent most of our time discussing our options to achieve optimum symmetry.

    As I will need to have quite a fair bit of surface skin (including nipples) removed, skin and muscle from my left lat will need to be used to replace the removed skin of my left breast. I was told that when the lat muscles are removed, I will lose "maximum power" when I perform certain exercises / positions that require the use of lat muscles, such as pull-ups, raising of arms, etc. Then I asked about Gummy Bear implants because I was curious about them, and I was shown samples of how it actually is like.

    I was shown a lot of pictures of past surgeries that my PS had done, some with similar breast shapes, and some with the same procedure I was recommended. I noticed that most of the recon started looking good after their nipple grafting and areola tattooing. Radiation also seems to cause implants to go "wonky" or shrink in size, which I'm quite concerned about as I will need to go for radiation after my recon. My PS had a point though, we do what we can for the surgery, and when radiation comes, we will work with whatever changes we face then. A step at a time. Rippling seems to be an issue too, as my skin will be thin after recon, and it seems that rippling cannot be prevented.

    We talked about getting tattoos on the breast (either areola tattooing, or having one to cover up the scars), and he's cleared it with green lights. I was told that recovery will take about a month, and my breasts will start to take their final forms about 3 months after the surgery. We can go in and touch up any asymmetry then, or have nipple reconstruction. I was actually planning to have some tattoos to cover up the scars on my breast, but now I'm considering taking it easy and have a nipple recon, and an areola tattooed on instead. My surgery is scheduled in early Jan though, so I still have time to make up my mind.

    I was told to come back to him again after I've digested all these info and have a clearer direction that I'm heading towards, and we will talk more about sizing, type of implants, and the technicalities of the surgery. I'm currently a 34DD, my PS said that since I'm going to have skin removed, we will be able to achieve a D, which is comforting to know. I was considering down-sizing, but I think I shouldn't be making too much drastic changes to my body, especially while I'm going through all these cancer drama. I was told that it will take about 3 hours for a MX, and 6 hours to complete BMX. I was recommended 3 days of ward stay, and subsequent follow ups to remove drains and check-up.

    I've come across another thread here about MX vs BMX (link here: https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/96/topic/...). I apologise that I've created a duplicated thread. The thread has some very good posts about what to weigh in when we are deciding between MX and BMX. For me, though sensation is one my concerns, I'm more concerned about the future scares and trauma I'll have to go through every time I get my "good" boob checked. Also, symmetry matters a lot to me too. So I'm leaning towards having a BMX now.

    I think the end goal of breast recon is to make us feel as "whole" as possible, so I suppose everyone will make different choices for their bodies.

    I'll keep you guys posted on how my decision goes, in case anyone would like to know. Do post any helpful information here if you would like to help me out with my decisions!

    Love, P

  • macb04
    macb04 Member Posts: 1,433
    edited October 2015

    Hi I had left uni mx in 7/2012. Was going to DIEP, had TE but under my pectoral muscle. Got expanded, then "TREATMENT " done, including rad. Changed my mind and did fat grafting with md not that experienced who took out the TE. Did the fat grafting 5 times with 2 severe infections. Lost most of the fat, got to an A cup.

    Finally sick of the whole thing so found new, more competent PS and had a TE put in OVER my pectoral this time. Much, much,much, much more comfortable over the pectoral than under it. In August had implant exchange to 420cc's Mentor Anatomic silicone implant, again, done OVER my implant. Infinitely more comfortable over the pectoral. Having had it both over and under my pectoral, it would be crazy to choose to have it done under your pectoral. There is now a research study done about doing it that way. I don't get rippling when I raise my arm now. I also have full strength in my chest and arms, can even do pushups. I couldn't do squat with the TE'S under my pectoral the first time, couldn't open a bag of potato chips with the TE under my pectoral. Was sheer torture that way. Don't even get me started on how much it hurt under the pectoral. Most doctors are not willing to do that, over the pectoral, really important if you are active. I think that if doctors had to live with having their pectoral demolished to make way for an implant, everyone would have the surgery done the way I did. They lie to themselves that it is not that bad that way, although if you ask them, they don't ever ask how it feels to have your pectoral cut and stretched. I begged my current PS to do it that way. He had only done it prior to me under the pectoral and he wasn't sure about it. I begged him and am so glad I did. He is pleasantly surprised how well it has worked out. On the boards there are scores of women who gave up on reconstruction and went flat instead because they couldn't stand having something under the pectoral. If your PS says that it isn't possible to do it over the Pec, just tell them to look at the research Pre pectoral implant placement and complete coverage with porcine acellular dermal matrix: A new technique for direct to implant breast reconstruction following a nipple sparing maectomy.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25455288

    Not exactly how I did it, but the same pre pectoral placement.

    Had a couple fake nipples made, so when I attached that, with prosthetic adhesive,finally L breast looks real again. Then nearly 3 weeks ago had R breast lifted with avertical lift. The PS got really great symmetry. This December I will go back to have a nipple made and to have some fat grafting in the scars. After that I plan to have my areola tattooed by Vinnie Myers either in California or Baltimore. I also plan to have medical tattooing of those incision scars to erase them as much as possible.

  • Englishmummy
    Englishmummy Member Posts: 337
    edited October 2015


    Oh Heart, first I would like to say, I don't envy you at all - these decisions are so hard, I am 41 and can only imagine what it must be like at your age - you are so brave..... I have been silently following your posts, and am in awe of your writing and your grasp of this horrendous situation; you have my complete admiration.Heart

    I did a BMX - nipple sparing - I know a lot of people freak out about those but I trust my surgeon, both my lesions were a long way from the nipple and this was her 'specialty'. I was dx with bilateral BC and was offered lumpectomies, although I know for sure in my heart  that even if I only had one side affected, I would have done a BMX not just a uni - the stress of having that one left would be too much for my humble brain, wondering when it might 'turn' on me again, no thanks.  I was told that mx gives less chance of local recurrence but does not change overall survivability. There are no guarantees as you walk this rough path, one has to do what is best physically AND also psychologically.  BMX was my decision but would not advise anyone to follow suit but I know you are asking for experiences. I have not regretted my decision one iota so far and highly doubt I will. It is now almost 4 mths out and I have significant feeling in my left breast, less in the right. I was told it is likely that once I have the implants that could increase, I won't hold my breath as I know many/most people do not regain any type of sensation. BTW I did not have rads so I am sure that affects things.... alot. I was/am too thin for DIEP or lat reconstructions per 2 PS. I get my exchange to the gummy bears Friday.

    I too am prone to an impulse reactions and follow my gut instinct, as I did with this decision BUT I am also not generally prone to regret - that's just a facet of my personality and I felt I should share that. 

    Whatever you decide, move forward and don't look back, you can't change what is done. Good Luck, sweet Lady.

    Hugs to you.

  • Tapanga
    Tapanga Member Posts: 39
    edited October 2015

    This is a decision only you can make, as difficult as it is. I was given the option of having a double mastectomy for cosmetic and peace-of-mind reasons despite the fact that no evidence was there that my left breast had any higher cahnce of reoccurrance. I weighed my options and agonized about it for a bit but in the end had to go with my gut - just one breast, and I don't regret it, it ended up being the right decision for me.

    I have a friend who was opposite to me - double mastectomy from the get go, no questions about it. She wanted everything gone.

    At the time the immediate reconstruction got infected, got removed, and then I had radiation. I always said I'd give reconstruction one more try. I have the date set, and the surgery will be more complicated this time around than if the immediate reconstruction had worked (so of course I'm over thinking things) but I just have to have faith that all will work out (and if it doesn't I won't be any worse off than I am now, except for I'd be down one lat muscle).

    Good luck - remember this is your decision, go with it.

  • kathy744
    kathy744 Member Posts: 12
    edited October 2015

    I had a left MX April 2015, my surgeon recommended against a double and after thinking about it for quite a while I decided to go with his recommendation and I feel good about my decision.

    I am scheduled for a left DIEP on October 21st and my one request was that I have another mammogram on the right side just to make sure all was still clear. It was and now I feel confident with moving forward.

    My only drawback was that because it was delayed reconstruction I've had a uniboobie for 6 months and have had to use a prosthesis which isn't always comfortable.

    Good luck and go with what is good for you, and not what others have done.

  • Gloco
    Gloco Member Posts: 1
    edited October 2015

    All of your posts are so helpful and encouraging. Thank you for sharing!

    I was diagnosed with BC in left breast on Sept 16. After meeting with oncologist BS and PS we decided a BMX would be my best option. I am still in shock after the phone call from insurance co denying payment for BMX. No cancer in right breast is reason given. Has anyone else had insurance denials for BMX?

  • lessharp
    lessharp Member Posts: 122
    edited October 2015

    I am going through this issue as well.

    I have Paget's diagnosed by dermatologist biopsy and underlying BC on my left breast. My husband suggested I write a list of pros and cons about just taking both...and there were too many pros. I was going to wait for results of genetic testing....My father had pancreatic cancer (on same marker as BC) and his sister had breast cancer on one side, and then later the other...but I've already decided what I think is the logical thing to do. One surgery BMX, immediate reconstruction with DIEP. Just know I will always worry about the other side...so for my peace of mind.

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    edited October 2015

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