Excisional Biopsy Thursday and Really Nervous

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  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited September 2015
    You won't be able to drive home and they put me completely out. I was told i could go back to work the second day after surgery with lifting restriction.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2015

    marg---I had an excisional biopsy with conscious sedation, so I had to have someone to drive me home. It was day surgery, I was in at 6:30, home by 1:30, slept most of the rest of the day. I took it pretty easy for a few days and was back to mostly normal activities within a week. I had the wire localization procedure about an hour before going into the OR. Not painful, but a pulling, tugging kind of pressure sensation. Very little pain afterwards, just took tylenol.

    Anne

  • Girl53
    Girl53 Member Posts: 225
    edited September 2015

    Marg: Sounds like a wire localization biopsy...this was what mine was. Yes, sedation involved; they would not allow me to drive home alone; you can go back to work the next day (some people go back same day, but because of possible residual effects of sedation, probably not best idea). My procedure went smoothly...no trouble or significant discomfort with wire placement. Only real trouble I had was with nasty contact dermatitis on breast, chest, torso, upper arm due -- I think -- to iodine solution they use to disinfect before surgery. Please let me know if any other questions, and best of luck.

  • 614
    614 Member Posts: 851
    edited September 2015


    You will have to have someone drive you home because you will be given anesthesia for the excisional biopsy. 

    I have had several excisional biopsies, a double lumpectomy, many core biopsies, and an MRI guided biopsy.  I was able to drive after the core biopsies and the MRI guided biopsy but not the excisional biopsies or the lumpectomies.

    I felt fine the next day after my excisional biopsies and my lumpectomies. 

    Good luck.

  • Girl53
    Girl53 Member Posts: 225
    edited September 2015

    Ladies: I'm moving to the newly diagnosed section. Met with BS this morning, and she told me that -- to her surprise -- they found tiny, multifocal, low grade ILC. She got clean margins with the excisional biopsy, so further lumpectomy not needed. But considering my LCIS and strong family history, she's recommending quick genetic testing. She said that PBM was not an unreasonable option for someone of my risk profile and personal history of high medical anxiety.

    Hope to do blood draw in next couple of days, and will have repeat mammogram and an MRI on Friday. Then, she says we'll need to do SNB.

    What a day. I am afraid and sad.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2015

    girl53--so sorry the news was not what you were hoping for. But I am very glad to hear that it was tiny, low grade, and they got clean margins. Praying the next round of tests go well.

    anne

  • 614
    614 Member Posts: 851
    edited September 2015

    I am sending you positive thoughts and prayers.  Good luck.  So sorry about the diagnosis.

  • Girl53
    Girl53 Member Posts: 225
    edited September 2015

    614: Thank you....I so much appreciate it. Your posts are always interesting and thoughtful and supportive. Let's stay in touch.

  • SassyMutt
    SassyMutt Member Posts: 31
    edited September 2015

    Girl, just checking in to see how things went with your results?

  • Girl53
    Girl53 Member Posts: 225
    edited September 2015

    Sassy: How are you? Thanks so much for checking with me. I moved over to the "Just Diagnosed" board. Tiny, low-grade, multifocal ILC. Doctor got clean margins in excisional biopsy. Am going in for MRI tomorrow and hope nothing else will be found. Also have to schedule SNB. Doctor and husband and I discussed rads/Tamox/close monitoring, or PBM (due to LCIS and significant family history). She said the latter wouldn't be an unreasonable option for me. I am feeling scared, sad, and confused. I just can't believe this happened. Know everyone feels this way at first. And my dog knocked me to the ground yesterday (this was kind of funny...I needed it)!

    Sass, do you by any chance see Dr. Colette Magnant? She's been suggested to me for a second opinion.

    Have been researching family history for appointment with genetic counselor, and the picture isn't looking pretty. Mother, paternal grandmother, great aunts on both sides, and numerous cousins with BC. One great aunt and one cousin with ovarian cancer. Grandfather with metastatic prostate cancer. Lots of other, various cancers. Whew.

    Thanks again for checking with me. Most of me wishes I could go back to a month and a half ago.

  • Edommey1
    Edommey1 Member Posts: 3
    edited September 2015

    Hi. I agree with the oncologist that hates the LCIS Dx it really leaves you uncertain with many statistics to sort through! I was Dx with LCIS in 2014. After lots of research and soul searching I decided to take myself out of the line of fire, take control of my situation because I had the choice, I had a PBM in 10 months of being Dx . The cost of surveillance and the constant worry of "will this be the time they find its now INVasive vs in situ" I could not deal with. Not only that , I am 45 and decided that every 3-4 months of testing was just TOO MANY YEARS of TOO MANY TESTS! TAmoxifen made me nervous and I didn't not want the side effects. I do not regret my decision and I am so grateful for the choice that many do not get. Good luck and God Bless.
  • Girl53
    Girl53 Member Posts: 225
    edited September 2015

    Edo: Thanks so much for your reply...we sound similar in many respects. The LCIS issue is so very confusing and unclear, even with extensive reading. Am now in process of deciding between radiation/chemoprevention and mastectomy, and I, too, would LOVE to avoid the drugs. I am very sensitive to any kind of substance and am scared of side effects.

    If I may ask, what was surgery and recovery like for you? Not that bad? Pretty hard but you're still glad you did it? Has it been difficult getting used to your new body, and for your partner/husband to get used to it?

  • grandmatexas
    grandmatexas Member Posts: 28
    edited September 2015

    I am 56 and have been in menopause for about five years.

    My excisional biopsy is scheduled for October 6th. My right nipple started bleeding on July 12th and has continued throughout the ensuing weeks. I saw my GYN a week after the bleeding started (it started the day before I left for Mexico with my daughter-in-law) who sent me for a diagnostic mammogram and ultrasound. The mammogram show some small microcalcifications in both breasts (the radiologist said without the bleeding, they probably would not look at them), which made him decide to do a stereotactic bilateral needle core biopsy. The day of the procedure, he decided the blood vessels were too close the the calcs on the right, so he only completed the procedure on the left. The biopsy revealed ADH on the left.

    After visiting with the oncology breast surgeon, he conferred with the radiologist and they decided I should have an MRI with contrast (is that the same thing as staining that I keep reading about?). The surgeon had to fight with the insurance, but he finally convinced them and we proceeded. The MRI revealed two areas the second radiologist found suspicious. I was then scheduled for an MRI guided biopsy. This biopsy revealed an ALH and an atypical papilloma.

    My follow-up visit with the oncology surgeon revealed that all of the samples were atypical, which I was told means pre-cancer. Because all the samples were the same, the surgeon now needs to find either clear margins or determine if anything has progressed to cancer. He told us he is very concerned with the papilloma; the bleeding is significant, not just a discharge (dripping on the floor, puddles on the mammo equipment).

    There doesn't seem to be any urgency in everything we are doing. On the one hand, this is almost comforting, but, on the other hand, it is frustrating.

    I am scheduled to have three wires inserted into my right breast and one into my left early the morning of my surgery. My surgeon has explained he will be making at least three incisions on the right breast (maybe four) and one on the left to complete this procedure. The office has said that I will probably be able to go back to work quickly (if not the day after surgery, then the next). I have a follow-up appointment the following Monday (six days after surgery).

    I am prepared for a cancer diagnosis (at least I think I am) but I am concerned about this procedure. I'm ready to tell him I'm good with bilateral mastectomy, but I'm no looking forward to this dimpling he tells me will be the results of this latest biopsy. I know that sounds shallow. :-( I had my first mini-meltdown this weekend but it was all about clothes. I'm sick of sports bras and figuring out my daily outfit based on what works with these bras. I know it has the potential to get much worse (so maybe it's good that I've had this come up now), so I'm doing a lot more thinking about this now.

    Sorry for rambling, but I appreciate everyone listening.

  • MrsGreenJeans
    MrsGreenJeans Member Posts: 95
    edited September 2015

    Hi grandma, sorry to hear that you are going through this. It can be very stressful. I had an excisional biopsy with wire localization in June. The US guided wire placement was not a big deal for me, the wire is actually quite thin and flexible. My biggest problem was the after anesthesia effects. I get very queasy and lightheaded for a couple of days. My surgery was on a Friday, and I was thankful that I didn't have to go back to work until the following Monday afternoon. I spent most of the weekend vegetating on the couch.

    This was my third excisional biopsy, but the only one that left any real visible sign. I don't know if it was due to the size or location of the incision, but I have a lovely 2 inch long indentation and scar on my breast. I imagine that is similar to what you are expecting to see regarding the dimpling your doctor mentioned. Such a bummer that you will need multiple incisions. I hope that it turns out to be much less than you are anticipating.

    I'm seeing a plastic surgeon tomorrow to discuss reconstruction as I will probably be doing PBMX. Haven't met with the breast surgeon yet, but that is scheduled. Not sure whether they will be able to fix the dimple but I am expecting a skin saving MX, so fingers crossed.

    I hope your surgery goes well, and that they get clean margins with no cancer present. Good luck.

  • grandmatexas
    grandmatexas Member Posts: 28
    edited September 2015

    Thanks for your comments, Mrs. Green Jeans. I appreciate knowing how you reacted to the excisional biopsy. I haven't really known what to expect. The procedure is on a Tuesday and I thought maybe I would go back on Thursday. Maybe I will just plan on taking Friday off as well. Give myself an opportunity to rest. Maybe my surgeon will be able to prevent much scarring, but, since he told me to expect dimpling, I'm not holding out much hope of that. My breasts are not full, which makes me think the dimpling will be even worse.

    I'm ready for mastectomies. I know that sounds drastic, but, after the last few months, the uncertainty and craziness makes me just want to put this to rest. I know it is no guarantee that nothing further will show up in the future, but it would reduce the risk.

    I hope your visit with the plastic surgeon goes well tomorrow. Let me know how it goes.

    Cynthia

  • MrsGreenJeans
    MrsGreenJeans Member Posts: 95
    edited September 2015

    Cynthia, my visit with the PS went great. He is very cutting edge and up to date on the newest technologies and procedures. He did my sister's reconstruction 5 years ago. I left his office feeling more confident about my choice to do the PBMX. I liked him a lot, and so did my husband. Next step is the breast surgeon, I have heard wonderful things about her.

    Good luck next week. I will be thinking of you. Keep us posted.

    Jean

  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited September 2015

    Yes, I had my excision for LCIS many, many years ago. They took out about 2 tablespoonfulls of breast tissue. I have a B cup. Initially, I did have a dimple, and a pink scar about 1 inch long. I had a huge hematoma; my breast turned autumnal shades of black, purple, blue, green, and yellow. The colors took several months to resolve. Over time, the dimple filled in completely. By about year 2, I had trouble in locating the incision site. It took some time, but I really can't tell where it is now.

    Different people have different amounts of breast tissue removed, have different excision lengths, and heal differently. But, depending on where your incision is, and whether you enjoy wearing low cut necklines, over the long term, there is hope that your incision will be virtually indistinguishable from your normal skin.

  • grandmatexas
    grandmatexas Member Posts: 28
    edited September 2015

    (leaf) Thank you for the encouragement! One more week. I'm a little anxious.

  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited September 2015

    Of course you're anxious! You've never been through this before. While I can't guarantee that your results will be, whatever happens, you will not be alone.

  • 614
    614 Member Posts: 851
    edited October 2015

    I never had a wire localization procedure.  I don't even know what to think after reading the posts.  Having so many biopsies at once is anxiety provoking.  Good luck and I will send you hugs and prayers.

  • 614
    614 Member Posts: 851
    edited October 2015


    Dear Leaf:

    How long did it take for your giant hematoma to go away?  What did your hematoma feel like.

    I ended up with an 8cm hematoma after my MRI guided biopsy on 5/21/15.  I still have the hematoma but it has gotten smaller.  It seems to me that it is probably 4cm now but I am not sure.  My whole breast feels weird so I wonder if it is a combination of the hematoma and the after effects of radiation???  (I completed my radiation almost exactly 1 year ago, on 10/3/14.)  My oncologist told me that the hematoma may never go away. 

    I am scheduled for a diagnostic mammogram, sonogram, and MRI in November 2015.  I have a 1.5cm or 1.8cm (depending on which pathology report that I read - I obtained a second opinion) linear non-mass enhancement with rapid washin washout kinetics that was found in May 2015 but this suspicious area could not be biopsied.  I will find out more in November.  I am hoping that the hematoma will not get in the way of the suspicious area being visualized on my MRI.  My doctors tell me not to worry.  However, the hematoma is big and it is hard not to worry when I am currently in a 6 month of limbo (wait and stress) period since I have no information about this linear non-mass. (I am not worried about the hematoma.  I am worried that the hematoma might obscure the doctor from reading the mammo, ultrasound, and MRI correctly.)

    Thanks for your help.

     

  • 614
    614 Member Posts: 851
    edited October 2015

    Dear Girl:

    I would love to stay in touch with you.  Thank you so much for your kind words.  I appreciate it.  Good luck with everything and I am sending positive thoughts and prayers.  You are going through so much right now plus you have an extensive family history.  It is very stressful and anxiety provoking.  I wish you the best with your procedures, tx, and decisions.  I was diagnosed with bifocal pleomorphic LCIS and with pleomorphic ILC.  Please feel free to ask me any questions because lobular carcinoma is terrifying.  I may not have any answers for you but I can be supportive and I can try to make you laugh to take your mind off of bc. 

  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited October 2015

    Hi 614!

    Sorry about my delay in replying: I have had other medical issues to deal with...

    From what I understand, my hematoma was internal (where the sample was taken), and I think it caused some scarring that shows up on mammograms. I get the impression that my 'area of concern' was about 1-2 inches in from the surface. I have never been able to feel anything deep. The lump at the excision or biopsy site felt like it was more at the surface (though of course I can't tell if there was anything deep because of the more surface swelling.) It took maybe 6 months or a year to resolve. Except for these external 'lumps' (the 'entry wound' for biopsies or excisions), I've never had any lumps. All of these external lumps resolved within about 6 months or a year or so. Its really hard to tell where I had my excision now; you have to really look and know what you're looking for.

  • 614
    614 Member Posts: 851
    edited October 2015

    Dear Leaf:

    Thanks for replying.  It is good to know that the hematoma resolved itself within a year.  That means that mine might go away.  I can feel mine.  It feels like it is approximately 4cm now which is smaller than the original 8cm.  I will be having my next round of mammo's, sono's, and MRI in November 2015 and I will find out all of the details.  I am hoping that the hematoma does not block any other images.  Your post is helpful to me.  Thanks again.

    614

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