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  • 39andhip
    39andhip Member Posts: 164
    edited September 2015

    I am such at such a weird age for this Cancer Land stuff. At age 40, I am considered Very Young in many studies, but I am too old to be 'young' for this board, yet my kids are too young (9 and 4) for me to be 'middle-aged.' Oh well, good thing I'm used to being a misfit! Perhaps I need to start an 'Old with Young Kids' group. :)

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited September 2015

    39andhip, Like I said above in the OP..."it's fine if you have some variation." Many days this thread may is more about attitude than age. In reading your Dx lines, it sure looks like your Lefty has been put thru' the wringer. So, what happened after you had the second lumpectomy? Were the docs worried about the margins? Did you then choose Mx because you wanted the best chance to be done with the BC forever? And it sounds like the DCIS was pretty extensive...what was the thinking to even attempt the second lumpectomy? What now...do you have some Tamoxifen looming on the horizon or a different option? Also, many "younger" gals have HER2+, so you were lucky in that respect.

    p.s. WELCOME!

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited September 2015

    39andHip - I agree, this thread is about attitude. I love reading these posts and have been unable to move along even though I'm technically too old now. Sounds like you're just barely recovering from DIEP. Sorry you have to be here but welcome and good wishes for easy recovery.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited September 2015

    But while we're at it Eli - I never got a pink princess phone when most of my friends had them. Sigh. Just as well since now I'm really adverse to PINK. Enough with the awareness. Everyone's aware now. Let's get on with prevention.

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited September 2015

    From the Get Out Your Barf Bibs Dept: Today, I was at the chiropractor's and a People Magazine was on the table and one of the articles was about Joan Lunden, something like "One Year Out...How She Beat Her Breast Cancer." I was agast. My mind was thinking, "really, after just one year can anyone even remotely consider that they beat it?" Then inside, a statement from Joan said something like how her doctor got a good feeling that she was going to be one that was cured. What a-brain doctor would say anything like that when all anyone has is NED, seeing as there is no CURE!!! If that even was actually said, that is, and I have my doubts.

    But hold on...I did not have the time to read the whole article; and, hold on, because it was not even Joan talking so crazy, at least. The direct quote I read from Joan's mouth (allegedly, and I have to paraphrase here) was that she still has that pit of fear inside, that she is taking it one day at a time, and if she recurs she will step up and deal with it. O.K., so Joan does sound normal enough there. It's those stupid magazines that make those stupid headlines, to pass on stupid info. to the ignorant masses. You thought I would say "stupid masses," didn't you? No! They just do not know any better when this is the type of shiny magazine headline that stares up at them in some waiting room time and time again.

    So, MinusTwo, I don't know if I agree with you, because there often seems to be a distinct LACK of awareness out there, judging by the utter garbage that we find circulating monthly and weekly in various "Women's" periodical publications. The average woman is not reading journal articles. The average woman is reading People. So now they know that Joan Lunden's cancer was cured. Sheeeesh!!!!!!

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited September 2015

    yeah, SHEEEEESH!!!

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited September 2015

    Eli - in that case, I agree w/you. Hmmm, cured? And for whoever buys that magazine story, there are nice little green men in my guest room who pronounce blessing on my head when I'm asleep. Oops - or maybe they gave me the neuropathy? I guess I know too many people who are either way too aware, or who just don't want to know anything & want to hide their heads in the sand.

  • molliefish
    molliefish Member Posts: 723
    edited September 2015

    Hi,

    Being 50 (and just over one half), I was hoping to join you since I'm right smack dab in the middle. I do love Cheetos Crunchits. sometimes even with jalapenos.

  • 39andhip
    39andhip Member Posts: 164
    edited September 2015

    Thanks, guys. :) Elimar - So after the first lumpectomy, it was discovered that I actually had very extensive DCIS that had not shown up on any of the imaging. I had one margin that was very close, and my surgeon wasn't comfortable with such a close margin given that I'm only 40 (and actually, a second pathology said the margin was actually positive). Based on this, we were pretty certain taking a bit more out would be sufficient, but after the second lumpectomy I had three positive margins. (WTF??) Mastectomy was the only logical choice at that point, given that the DCIS was obviously very extensive and I don't have large breasts to begin with (B cup). I do have some sort of dreaded anti-hormone therapy looming - probably ovarian suppression + AI vs. tamoxifen, though I'm still debating this and will discuss it with my MO next week. Ugh.

  • Eph3_12
    Eph3_12 Member Posts: 4,781
    edited September 2015

    Hey molliefish, jump right in! the water here in Middieland is fine!

    Hey, Joan Lunden's cancer was cured because she's a celebrity! There is awareness out there but "they" are aware of so many non-truths. But again, until I was diagnosed, I was "aware" but not aware, if you get my drift!

    Working 4-10s, at age 61, is not a logical step for most folks, but I am so enjoying using my brain!!!! Just hoping I can continue the pace.

    My daughter turns 21 on the 21st! Egad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where did the time go????

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited September 2015

    Hi Molliefish,, welcome to the gang!

    39andhip: Not a fun decision. Is having a oophorectomy (removal of the ovaries) a possibility instead of ovarian suppression? Not sure if you want to go that route or not,, but just throwing that out there in case your MO hasn't mentioned it. Be aware of all the possibles is my opinion.

    Eph: so if you are a celebrity, they can cure your cancer? Well, they dropped the ball on Linda McCartney and look what happened to poor Paul. Found nasty wives after Linda. And what about Kathy Bates,, why did they let her get LE? So maybe they only want to cure certain celebrities,,,, hmmmm,,, Wow, DD turning 21,, where did the time go? 4 10's is not easy, but hang in there, sounds like you are enjoying the job.

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited September 2015

    Hello, molliefish! You are up in Canada, but your Cheetos style is definitely more South of the border.


  • 39andhip
    39andhip Member Posts: 164
    edited September 2015

    Glennie - Yeah, an oophorectomy is a possibility, but I want to see if I can even tolerate the AIs first. If I can, then I'd definitely go for oophorectomy rather than have monthly shots. But for the moment I am sooooo over having surgery. UGH!!

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited September 2015

    I bet you are over having surgery,,,, That's a lot of surg for one year.

  • Eph3_12
    Eph3_12 Member Posts: 4,781
    edited September 2015

    yea Glennie, you are right about all the celebs that didn't get cured. I was being facetious, I get so ticked when stupid info gets published (which seems to be gaining steam).

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited September 2015

    And I was being sarcastic! People magazine just wants eye-catching headlines so that people will buy it. I just read it at my hairdresser's and in the grocery store line! I'm ticked with stupid info too,, and Oct is coming,,,, way too quickly. Putting away all pink shirts for the month. Should get dog a non-pink collar too.

  • Eph3_12
    Eph3_12 Member Posts: 4,781
    edited September 2015

    I don't own any pink, but one shirt and I think it's due to go to the thrift store soon as I haven't worn it in almost a year!


  • Mulligan
    Mulligan Member Posts: 205
    edited September 2015

    My Birthday is in October, Pink used to be my favourite color now I hate/dread them both when they are used together. :(

  • molliefish
    molliefish Member Posts: 723
    edited September 2015

    I usually resort to this statement. " if I knew then, what I know now ". I was and am the kind of silent type donator. I support anonymously, and most of the fund raising swag I have is for the Ontario version of the widows and orphans fund.

  • Loral
    Loral Member Posts: 932
    edited September 2015

    I agree not only was my surgery in October so is my birthday, so every October in my face is PINK, and it's also my birthstone. I actually like the colors of fall in October, orange, brown and green!

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited September 2015

    Speaklng of PINK - TheDevineMrsM has started a thread "Are you a fan of awareness". It's in the Stage IV area but she's welcomed anyone else to post their opinions. There have been some really thoughtful answers so far.

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/8/topic/834968?page=2#idx_42

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited September 2015

    Thanks, MinusTwo. I posted a little something over there. I'm not a fan of Pinktober, but as much as I like to rant on, I just cannot seem to work up a lot of steam and join the firebrand anti-Pink militants. I must be better at turning a blind eye, or just be too lazy for real activism. Probably both.

  • HomeMom
    HomeMom Member Posts: 1,198
    edited September 2015

    Hey everyone, I haven't been here in a while, very busy with work and stuff! I have an appointment with my PS tomorrow morning to decide if I am going to have nipple recon. Not sure I want another surgery. I'm not one of the young ones here and hubby and I have been married for over 30 years. Why do I need a nipple?? Why go through another surgery? LOL

    I also developed a couple of small pinkish welts (for lack of a better term) in my incision area. The PA at the MO's office last week thought they looked like an irritation, but if they didn't go away we might want to take biopsy. My MO didn't even look at them and said "Just keep an eye on it and if it gets worse let us know". Then Monday I get a a call from the BS office to schedule a biopsy! I told them, well first, my schedule for Monday was insane, and second that they weren't that concerned with it. Apparently the notes they put in the computer goes to everyone who is working and has worked on my case.


    The marks haven't gone away so I'm a little more concerned now. Has anyone had something like this pop up? I had my surgery in May.

  • lbrewer
    lbrewer Member Posts: 766
    edited September 2015

    Homecoming,

    I would go see the BS. It's probably nothing but why stress anymore than you need. I'm an older one here too. Think I will go with 3d tattoo since I don't want another surgery either. I had a nipple done the first time around and it shrunk anyway.

    Would really like to volunteer for 3d printed ones if that comes alomg!



  • HomeMom
    HomeMom Member Posts: 1,198
    edited September 2015

    I saw the PS today and they told me they were just microscopic spider veins! I think I am going to go through with the surgery. As much as I don't like the idea of more surgery, I do have an issue looking at my self in the mirror and I hide my boob so my husband doesn't look at it. Crazy I know, but I think this will help with my self esteem when it comes to that. He told me today that my skin is perfect for a nipple recon, it's hardly even been affected by the radiation. I might get a tummy tuck while they are at it. My deductible is totally met and so the recon won't cost me a dime.


    I still told my PS that I would think it over and get back to them early next week. We are going to the beach this weekend, so I'll discuss with my hubby then.

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited September 2015

    Homemom: have you considered nipple tattoos? I have seen some 3D ones that look absolutely amazing. I know there is a thread about Vinnie,, who is the nipple guru. Just to mention if you decide against surg but still want nips

  • treelilac
    treelilac Member Posts: 245
    edited September 2015

    I've always wondered: do the 3D ones look great not just in images but also hmm in 3D?

  • HomeMom
    HomeMom Member Posts: 1,198
    edited September 2015

    I would think it would be tough to match them up if you go for stick ons. I thought about Vinnie, but I'd have to fly to New Orleans just to do it. Meh. Been there and done that town. lol


    Plus he is going to raise my surviving nipple up a little bit more. Ugh.

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited September 2015

    Homemom, I went to the Pink Door in Palatka and she matched up my remaining nipple with a stick on. You may want to check it out. It's a really nice shop.

    And I think Vinnie also goes to Baltimore,,, and somewhere in California too.

  • moesje
    moesje Member Posts: 3
    edited September 2015

    I'm 53 and was diagnosed with Stage IV HER+ breast cancer; a dozen lymph nodes in my armpit and two spots on the thoracic spine. I've completed 6 rounds of herceptin/perjeta/carboplatin/taxotere. I'll continue on H&P indefinitely; Oct 9 is surgery and then possibly radiation on lymph nodes and breast.

    My question might have been answered already, but I'll ask anyway: I've been post-menopausal the last 4 years. This month I've noticed discharge and then today, ovarian pain as if my period is starting. Is is possible to restart after so long?

    Thanks!

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