Summer 2015 Rads

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  • wpmoon
    wpmoon Member Posts: 270
    edited September 2015

    Hi ladies! Just checking in. I'm a little past 2 weeks post rads, and happy to report that my fatigue has all but gone, my skin is almost done peeling, and the scar is definitely much smoother.

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited September 2015

    Good news, Whitney!

  • ChicagoReader
    ChicagoReader Member Posts: 110
    edited September 2015

    Ksusan, thanks for posting a photo. It's one thing to hear the nurses telling me that my own somewhat scary-looking spots are normal, and another to see that someone else is experiencing something similar. Though I'm sorry that you're having to experience peeling skin, sticker reactions, and other problems, I found the photo reassuring and I appreciate your generosity in posting it.

    If you (and others who recently finished rads) are still having discomfort, you might ask your RO for something that has helped me a lot: my RO prescribed 2% lidocaine in an Aquaphor base. It has to be custom compounded, but my local Walgreen's was able to do that after ordering the lidocaine. I apply it twice a day and it has given me huge relief, especially when the skin rubs against clothing.

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Member Posts: 3,039
    edited September 2015

    ChicagoReader: thank you for mentioning that. I'll ask my RO about it when I see him next, though I'm not having problems yet.

  • ChicagoReader
    ChicagoReader Member Posts: 110
    edited September 2015

    Queenmomcat, you're welcome! I also asked about the aloe with lidocaine gel that is available over the counter. The nurse said patients had reported problems with it in the past. They think it might have additives that cause irritation for some people, so they prefer to go with prescriptions and control the ingredients. Good luck!.

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Member Posts: 3,039
    edited September 2015

    Makes sense about the irritants (for people undergoing rads) in OTC stuff.

  • CAMommy
    CAMommy Member Posts: 437
    edited September 2015

    I have aloe and lidocaine and I have found anything with aloe makes me really itchy. I save it for the horrendous pain I get at the end of the day under my boob. I pretty much am down to aquaphor now as the only thing that does add to my misery. I am fair skinned and get rashes/burns etc easily. 3 more days.....

  • Keys-Plez
    Keys-Plez Member Posts: 304
    edited September 2015

    My rad techs recommend CVS Aftersun Blue Aloe Gel with lidocane. The day I bought it, CVS was out if it. So I went next door to Walgreens and got theirs. That was a mistake. It has so many additives in it. My rad tech went crazy. So I went to another CVS and found some. The ingredient list is completely different. Aloe is listed first. And much fewer extra stuff. Brand does matter. 15 of 28 done.

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited September 2015

    Thanks, ChicagoReader. I'm "happy" to hear my spots look familiar to you--I don't have a good basis for comparison and didn't have much going on before I finished treatment, so my RO hasn't even looked at it. I'm not having too much painful skin reaction but do have some "deep in" pain that I assume will abate. I'm at 2 weeks out and the major field has faced enough that the boost field stands out. Crud under the arm but I can see that it's resolving. I hope by this time next week I'll be more or less done with this particular pleasure.

  • ORgal
    ORgal Member Posts: 56
    edited September 2015

    Marksgirl, It's good to know what I'm experiencing happens to others too, it's nice not being alone. I was really surprised to find out that's all it was. . Hope you are feeling better soon!

  • CAMommy
    CAMommy Member Posts: 437
    edited September 2015

    18/21 today and the nausea is back again. I don't want to do anymore. Can I just stop 2 early?

  • littleblueflowers
    littleblueflowers Member Posts: 2,000
    edited September 2015

    My RO seems to think I will loose all my chest skin here in about a week. Guess he's the expert. Right now, though, I'm not even pink, here two weeks in. Fatigue- now that's a real thing! He says excercise, sleep, and caffeine. Anyone else have any advice, tips, or tricks? Help! I can't stay awake!

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited September 2015

    I couldn't really nap, but it helped to sit still, drink water, and eat protein a couple of times a day.

    I didn't peel until more than a week after the end of radiation. At two weeks out, much of the peeling is resolving.

  • littleblueflowers
    littleblueflowers Member Posts: 2,000
    edited September 2015

    Eating a buffalo cranberry epic bar as we speak. Sitting very still. drinking a giant jug of water. :)

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited September 2015

    See? You're already perfect!

  • CAMommy
    CAMommy Member Posts: 437
    edited September 2015

    try getting ready to move while doing rads. This fatigue is nuts. And I'm in pain and nauseous. This will go down as my worst summer ever.

  • CAMommy
    CAMommy Member Posts: 437
    edited September 2015

    this causes me no end of pain. image

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Member Posts: 3,039
    edited September 2015

    Totally in sympathy with you there, CAMommy. Another summer comes close. But this one is purely bleeped in terms of physical issues.

  • fltchr
    fltchr Member Posts: 40
    edited September 2015

    29/30. Never thought I'd have such mixed emotions about tomorrow. I'm definitely glad to see the end, but full of anxiety at the same time. After tomorrow, things change. Cancer has been at the forefront of everything for a long time now. Now it needs to take a backseat. It's been all about getting rid of it, now it's about trying to get back to normal (or whatever a new normal is). I'm also going to really miss my techs. They have been such a support and always seem to know the right thing to say! I have to say, people can say the dumbest things. I know they mean well, but I have definitely learned what not to say.

  • Keys-Plez
    Keys-Plez Member Posts: 304
    edited September 2015

    16 down, 12 to go. I met with my RO today. She said I looked pretty good. I reminded her that I had 3 days off from radiation and she should have asked me last Friday. Anyway, I'm sticking to my routine of chilling down with the CVS Aftersun Aloe with lidocane. They said to use it 3 to 4 times a day to help alleviate the sensitivity. I know it's sticky, but I brush everything down with cornstarch afterwards. I use a makeup blusher/foundation brush to apply the cornstarch. It spreads better and doesn't clump so much. My radiated breast is definitely warmer than my normal breast. So I also cool it down with a wet/damp cooling towel (Polar Pad). I think it helps to remove some of the heat. To me, heat equates to damage. So less heat, less damage. Last Friday I was also very sensitive to anything that was touching my breast. Even my soft T shirts are too scratchy.

    lbflowers...I have a hard time staying awake midafternoon at work. Then I go to radiation after work. When I get home, I have something to eat then I'm out like light. My problem is I wake up at 2:00 am and can't get back to sleep before the alarm clock goes off to get up and go to work. The cycle just accumulates until I can reset during the weekends.

    CAMommy...Sorry you've had to deal with nausea and moving. Not an easy combination.

    fitchr...I have thought about what you're saying. It's like fighting this cancer has been the center of my life for six months now and I wonder how I'm gonna feel when the doc says OK you're done, go away. The challenge then will be moving forward and trying not to wake up in the morning with it being the first thing to pop into your head. I'll think it'll be another one of those Xanax moments. But I see you're like me, this isn't really the end. I'll just be passed along to the MO for hormonal therapy. Then we'll be given our drugs and pushed out of the nest!

  • bluefin
    bluefin Member Posts: 50
    edited September 2015

    I'm at 15/30 today.

    Anyone know why my skin seems to be more red AFTER I apply Miaderm? I know it's not an allergic reaction because I've been using it now for several weeks. It's almost like the moisture brings out the redness? I don't know if that makes any sense. I asked my techs and they looked at me like I was nuts. I don't see the RO until Thursday to ask her.

    Also, I've named my machine Max. I think about Flight of the Navigator every time I'm on that table.

    image

  • ChicagoReader
    ChicagoReader Member Posts: 110
    edited September 2015

    Protein and water also helped lessen fatigue for me. In addition, I noticed that I felt less tired on days when I had time for a short walk. I also felt better when I could avoid extreme temperatures, which could mean avoiding the outdoors during the hottest part of some days or avoiding places where they crank up the air conditioning. But some days, nothing seemed to work and I fell asleep on the sofa in the early evening. Luckily, I didn't have many of those days.

  • InStitches
    InStitches Member Posts: 80
    edited September 2015

    I started taking a supplement of Taurine and it really helped with my fatigue.


    Peace and healing,

    Nancy


  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited September 2015

    I get redder if I touch my skin, so maybe it's from smoothing on the Miaderm? It happens to me no matter what moisturizer I use.

  • bluefin
    bluefin Member Posts: 50
    edited September 2015

    Ahh. That could be ksusan. I put Aquaphor on at night and it gets red after that too.

    Worst spot for me is actually around my collarbone from radiating the nodes up there, although honestly still pretty "mild" as far as discomfort goes.

  • lemonadehk
    lemonadehk Member Posts: 106
    edited September 2015

    Hi bluefin, I just finished my RT. My skin is fine, just a bit darker. No peeling (at least not yet). I used Aloe vera and Bioron. My treatment area also got a lot more red after I apply them, and then gradually return to normal. I think it's because of irritation. Dont worry :)

  • littleblueflowers
    littleblueflowers Member Posts: 2,000
    edited September 2015

    Taurine? Cool! I'll ask about it! It's more like sleepiness than classic fatigue, because after I work out and eat I'm raring to go. But sitting around I can barely keep my eyes open!

  • Keys-Plez
    Keys-Plez Member Posts: 304
    edited September 2015

    Better check on taurine. It has antioxidant properties. Antioxidants make radiation therapy less effective, according to my RO. Just check and make sure.

  • pwilmarth
    pwilmarth Member Posts: 235
    edited September 2015

    Just finished day 14 post radiation therapy. I am glad I took the time to educate myself.


    Had no SE's during RT, but I understood that skin could get worse about a week after finishing and mine did. I learned from the article here that the areas most prone to reactions are the axilla and the upper inner quadrant of the chest wall. Those are the areas that hit the hardest.

    My skin became very dark red and almost black. Then the peeling started first under my arm, then along the upper inner quadrant. I didn't have much pain under the arm, but the upper inner quadrant was quite painful.

    I am a nurse and spent the weekend learning about radiodermatitis, which is the medical term for the skin reactions we get to radiation therapy. The loss of surface skin (epidermis) is called desquamation and there's two types - moist and dry. I had both!

    There's been quite a bit of research on the best way to support the healing process and it turns out that the principles of moist healing leads to the quickest healing with the least amount of pain. Once moist desquamation occurs, things like Aquaphor are no longer helpful.

    There's several wways to support moist healing, including hydrocolloid dressings, alginate dressings, silicon dressings, wound gels, and clear dressings like Tegaderm.

    The area that was giving me the most trouble was the upper inner quadrant (dry desquamation). It felt like the worst case of chapped skin I have ever had. And, of course, it flared up over the weekend. I went to Walgreens and bought some Tegaderm and silver wound gel. What a godsend this was! Within an hour of applying the wound gel and the Tegaderm, my pain was gone. And within 48 hours of applying them, my skin looks so much better.

    I had to be a little more creative with the moist desquamation under my arm. In addition to applying wound gel and Tegaderm, I covered the areas with a border gauze dressing in order to reduce the friction from my arm rubbing on the damaged skin. I've also had to use the same strategy for some moist desquamation in a skin fold under my breast area.

    Right now, I see much iimprovement and the radiodermatitis is clearing.

    For any of you that experience moist desquamation, don't be afraid to talk to your RO about these methods for healing your skin.



  • Midgiemoon
    Midgiemoon Member Posts: 174
    edited September 2015

    Hi folks,

    I am dropping into say hi. I am 2 1/2 out of rads and my skin is done peeling, I am back to work, and feeling quite well. I started back up at the gym last week, and my hospital offers free yoga for breast cancer patients, so I am giving that a try tonight. I am a cyclist and weight lifter, so this should be a good experience for me. And, best of all, I can now seriously hug my husband! No more pain :)


    I found that I do miss my waiting room friends (2 of them are stage 4, sadly) and also the techs. But, I have been so happy to have this all behind me. Apparently my happiness is noticable, as several people have commented on it. I am so thankful for the quality of care, and the support from my friends and family. I really have a whole new outlook on life these days. I am much more positive, now that I know I am strong enough to handle what's thrown at me. Not quite the reaction I was expecting from myself, but I'll take it.


    Wishing you all the best.


    ~Midgie

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