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Flydragon
Flydragon Member Posts: 6
edited October 2015 in Just Diagnosed

So I have just been diagnosed with breast cancer, stage 1 (it's hard to even type never the less say out loud!!) I have opted for a bi-lateral mastectomy and reconstruction. My breasts are very dense with tissue and I was told this was a one in a million find and that I am very lucky that the radiologist wanted an MRI. The radiologist saved my life at this point. It really didn't even enter my mind that I could die until I started to read some information here. I feel that I have receive a very positive out come and I have been lucky thus far.

I guess what I need as far as advise which may be very trivial to most but has been a discussion right now in my house is to get or not to get nipple reconstruction? I was thinking NO but I need to think of my husbands needs also. Can anyone help with the male perspective on nipples or just a 3D tattoo?

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  • radgal
    radgal Member Posts: 100
    edited September 2015

    I felt very similar to you. I was diagnosed with stage 1 breast cancer on 7-1-15. I went through the gamut of options: lumpectomy with radiation therapy, single mastectomy and double mastectomy. I even considered no treatment as all of them scared me. I considered the double mastectomy for several reasons: 1) mentality of "I have a cavity, give me dentures" aka "I have a 1 cm tumor, take both breasts!" 2) what if the single mastectomy doesn't match my normal breast 3) Angelina Jolie -- if she did it, it must be good 4) I didn't want 5-7 weeks of radiation therapy after lumpectomy.

    I would encourage you to research all these forums especially those regarding double mastectomy since that is what you have opted to do. There are numerous complications which include chronic pain, numbness over the chest and complications with reconstruction. I, too, wanted this option but several people on breast cancer forms suggested that I reconsider, considering that my cancer was <1 cm, it was not triple negative and I was BRCA negative. In other words, I have a very slow growing small tumor and double mastectomy is MAJOR surgery for a case like mine.

    I'm so grateful for them. In my research I found an additional treatment I have not been aware of: lumpectomy and intraoperative radiotherapy (IORT). I had that done on 8-25-15. It involves a lumpectomy by my breast surgeon and 20 minutes of radiotherapy directly to the tumor bed in surgery by my radiation oncologist. That is the entire treatment. I saw my breast surgeon this past Tuesday; the path report states that my margins are clean and the lymph nodes are negative. I am done with surgery. I am done with radiation therapy since it was done during surgery.

    It has been two months and two days since I was diagnosed with stage I breast cancer (IDC right, <1 cm, ER+/PR+, HER2-, BRCA negative), The 1 cm margins are clean, the lymph nodes are negative and I have both breasts. For those women with triple negative breast cancer, large tumors or those who are BRCA positive, I understand getting a bilateral mastectomy. That wasn't my case.

    Please take the time to research the pros and cons of all treatment options. I am grateful that other women encouraged me to reconsider having the double done. To learn about IORT in your area (and to do what I did), google "IORT breast" and the city you live in.

    I was where you were on 7-1-2015 -- there are lots of forums and awesome women here to help you.

    Hugs and prayers,

    radgal

  • Flydragon
    Flydragon Member Posts: 6
    edited September 2015

    I did not get my BRCA back yet so I'm not sure how that will turn out. I have large breasts and was considering a reduction 2 years ago. It may sound crazy in many ways but about a year ago driving home from work it crossed my mind that I would get breast cancer and at that time I already made up my mind. Weird I know. But with the information I do have now that you cannot see the tumor in a mammogram I feel it's the right decision for me. I don't want to keep thinking this can happen again and it may not be caught as early as this one was and then what? I will do more research ....guess I'm worried ...THank you for the advise

    Prayers and hugs

    Flydragon

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited September 2015

    Hi Flydragon-

    We want to welcome you to our community here at BCO. We're sorry for what brings you here, but we're glad you've found us, and hope you find the support you need!

    You may want to head over to our Reconstruction Forums for more information about reconstruction and nipple advice. They're chock full of great advice, and our members are always happy to share their experiences.

    The Mods

  • Beatmon
    Beatmon Member Posts: 1,562
    edited September 2015

    unfortunately, I hope that you know that no reconstructed nipple works sexually. You will pretty much be numb! Best of luck

  • debiann
    debiann Member Posts: 1,200
    edited September 2015

    I didn't get my nipples yet, but its true, they are purely decorative and remain in "headlights on" state all the time. However, my PS said they really look good, so I'm going to be getting them. My dh says he thinks it will feel more normal to him when he fondles my breasts. I had DIEP recon and they do feel like real breasts, so hoping the nipples will be a nice finishing touch.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2015

    Echoing what others said, I had nipple-sparing BMX and kept my original ones. But they are numb because nerves have to be severed in order to lift out all the tissue underneath the nipple. In fact, I can't stand having them touched. :( A real bummer.

    HOWEVER, there might be some hope for us... my plastic surgeon is amazing, and he did some fat grafting for me--injectable fat from our own bodies to build up/shape our new breasts. He said that fat grafting--depending on how much--can eventually help some of us with regaining some sensation. Our own fat has stem cells, which apparently can help to grow nerves (don't ask me to explain anymore since I'm not an expert; you'll have to do research and get a superskilled PS to do your BMX).

    My surgeon's wife had a BMX and reconstruction; ten years later, she has some sensation again, he said. And I just realized that after some years, my armpit--which was numb since my lumpectomy--now has sensation again.

    Claire in AZ

  • mdg
    mdg Member Posts: 3,571
    edited September 2015

    I think it is a personal preference. Remember that even if you get nipples, they don't really work and often they shrink a lot anyway and are small. I opted for areola and nipple reconstruction topped off with tattoos by a tattoo artist (they have a 3 d look to them). Mine look very real and my MO always thinks I had nipple sparing BMX when he sees them even though I did not. The areola part was hard because it took a long time for the skin grafts to heal, but they look good. The tattoos made them look even better. Not sure my husband would care either way how I did it...he wanted me to be happy.

  • Flydragon
    Flydragon Member Posts: 6
    edited September 2015

    thank you all for your comments and sharing. I know they don't have feeling but it would feel more natural or at least I think it would. I have seen pictures of the 3d tattoos and they look so real

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2015

    All I can offer is that i thought long and hard about nipple sparing, and my PS did a biopsy to test the tissue underneath for possible involvement before I decided to keep them. After all I had been through I knew I wasn't ready to go through more grafting, reconstruction, etc. and was glad I kept them and stayed a small size about a 34 B-. That allowed me to go in quick/out quick with two surgeries: one in my PS office to lift the nipples from the tissue about 2 weeks before my BMX/recon, and then one more surgery for my BMX/immediate reconstruction. I didn't have to go through expanders, exchanges, etc. All healed incredibly easily and my PS and I were more than pleased. The year following my BMX surgery I went back for some fat grafting, also easy--just bruising for a few weeks-- with no incisions required. That's it.

  • CAMommy
    CAMommy Member Posts: 437
    edited September 2015

    I was considering mx and may in the future consider bmx due to family history. Honestly I am surprised about this. I would have big issues with my husband needing me to have nipples for "his needs". Especially when I wouldn't feel anything and when these things have caused me so much pain and heartache.

    I'm very sorry about your dx and bring here, but honestly, your husbands needs are the least important part of this. You need to have the surgery, you need to recover, you need to decide on the type of reconstruction, you need to have the additional surgeries, you need to do chemo if it is warranted. He needs to be supportive and love you unconditionally for better or for worse, in sickness and in health, and nowhere does it say and nipples for HIS enjoyment.

    I'm so sorry he is doing this to you. It makes me angry and sad.

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Member Posts: 3,039
    edited September 2015

    Has your husband said anything about it one way or the other? (Your original message didn't make that clear.) If it would make YOU feel more comfortable to have them, then absolutely YES, get them....because much of sexuality is in the mind. Not all. But a lot.

    I don't pretend to be in your exact situation, mind. But if you can, talk it over with your husband.do. Be honest with each other: does he want you to go through more surgeries for something that may never respond like a nipple?

  • Flydragon
    Flydragon Member Posts: 6
    edited September 2015

    thank you for your comments. My husband is being very supportive. My husband and I have talked about everything and he just wants me to be healthy and happy. I didn't mean to make his sound like a jerk lol this is just the last desision I need to make and I'm not sure what I want at thispoint. Looking for some advise and some opinions of women who have or had to make the same decision

  • Flydragon
    Flydragon Member Posts: 6
    edited September 2015

    surgery is tomorrow I'm nevou

  • Kimmy5772
    Kimmy5772 Member Posts: 4
    edited September 2015

    I, too, was recently diagnosed with same situation..dense breasts etc. I am scheduled to do a diep flap this coming Monday. I was originally hoping to save my nipples but found out that they wouldn't have feeling and since they are breast tissue, it was suggested that I have them removed too. I spoke with a relative of mine who had a single mastectomy and she said she opted not to have nipple created and tattooed. She said that she and her husband were fine with how it is. I personally think I would have at least the tattoo done. I am still thinking on the nipple puckering. She said she can wear clothes without worrying about her "lights" being in. Luckily it will be a little while before I have to decide. Not sure if this helped..

  • Flydragon
    Flydragon Member Posts: 6
    edited October 2015
  • SoCalGrl
    SoCalGrl Member Posts: 105
    edited October 2015

    When I was diagnosed, I took the most aggressive treatment possible and removed my nipples even though the doctor said sparing my nipples was a possibility. In my case after breast feeding 2 kids my real nipples were not as perky, so the method the breast surgeon and cosmetic surgeon needed to do was a new procedure for both of them. I didn't feel like being their first, so I figured I would just go ahead and do nipple construction after my bilateral mastectomy.

    Fast forward to after the surgery and now my cosmetic surgeon tells me that my breast surgeon skinned me like a grape, so the skin is very, very thin and nipple construction isn't even an option anymore. To be honest I'm a little bummed about it. I know that there are awesome 3D tattoo options, but I wanted some height to retain normalcy for me. I'm seeing him again (I still have tissue expanders in) and am going to discuss alloderm nipples, but I'm not optimistic.

    On the flip side, not having to wear a bra has been amazing!

    Good luck with your choice, it's really hard.

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