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  • littleblueflowers
    littleblueflowers Member Posts: 2,000
    edited August 2015

    Awesome, andrea! You gotta tell us when it comes out! You are a star!

    Kbee, sounds like you and I have the same RO. They are so laid back it's scary. Some of us have to get to work!

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited August 2015

    They have zero respect for the fact that we have jobs or a life. I am so frustrated.

    I was told one set of"ok" lotions to use by the nurse, other things by the PA, and when I saw the tech today and asked her to show me the radiation field so I would know where to apply lotions, she said it really does not matter what you use. You will burn. Sigh. It just was not agood day.

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited August 2015

    Bull. I got red but certainly didn't burn except on one of the sim sticker dermatitis areas.

  • SueH58
    SueH58 Member Posts: 632
    edited August 2015

    KBee - Sorry for your bad day with times and experience with rads staff. I'm seeing my RO next week, and hope my experience is better,. I thought they would accommodate your work schedule, i.e. I need late afternoon. Are you at a busy, large facility? And I can't believe they are so negative about your skin care and anticipated results. So sorry for your bad day!

  • AndreaC
    AndreaC Member Posts: 220
    edited August 2015

    Kbeee, so sorry about your crummy day! My rad techs are really good about giving me early morning appointments every other Friday when my husband has the day off, so we can leave for home early for the weekend. I love that they are so flexible. You really do not need to stress about getting your shifts covered or about burning. This is a time you need reassurance, not negativity!

    I hope that your rad sessions go smoother. It is a pain going every single day, but I look at this as my job right now. I can't imagine working as well as going through treatment, plus looking after your family. You are amazing!

    Andrea


  • GingerChi
    GingerChi Member Posts: 252
    edited August 2015

    Steph: CONGRATS on your good report!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!

    Andrea: A star among us! Thats exciting..hope you had fun doing it!! Will we be able to see the film somehow? Keep us posted!!

    Renee: Thanks girl, hopefully the UTI was the culprit! I'm not doing rads.....yet anyway. I'm still trying to get through chemo....I'm 5 weeks behind schedule at this point. Bleh! When I'm closer to being finished, there will be a consult with a RO to decide if I need them or not. MO thinks probably not and I'm hoping that's the case.

    Sorry for the delays and frustrating time some of you are having with rads. Who needs that on top of everything else? What a PITA!

  • lovlilynne
    lovlilynne Member Posts: 405
    edited August 2015

    Steph - that is fantastic news. What a gift!

    KB - my RO and nurse said that they probably wouldn't be able to give me my preferred spot at first, but would work towards it as the spot became available - is that possible for you? They said that they try very hard to work with the patient and have flexibility - both ways - if they need to change or if patient needs to change time. So, I'll have to trust them for now. I am same as you waiting to find out spot tomorrow, but I know it won't be preferred time at first, but that's ok for me for now since I'm not working, but I will want specific lunch time appointment when I go back.

    My nurse also told me that all the lotions, etc. don't make a difference to outcome, but she also said that they don't see the skin damage/burns that they did decades ago - they equipment has improved and they have learned much over time. However, it seems like your skin type and the amount of radiation (and you are getting all those boosts) - they can pretty much predict that you'll have a difficult time. Have you bought your box of cornstarch? One week supply of tank tops?

    Speaking of burning our skin, I'm off to the beach again - going to enjoy the last days before school starts . . .

    Lynne

  • Alibeths
    Alibeths Member Posts: 656
    edited August 2015

    for a full year💖❤️

  • Scarlett152
    Scarlett152 Member Posts: 175
    edited August 2015

    Good morning ladies! I have a side effects question. I am 7 weeks post TC x 4, 3 weeks on Tamoxifen, and have been only monthly Zoladex injections since January. I have had joint pain since starting the Zoladex, which worsened with chemo. Now I have such bad pain in my feet in the morning that it is hard to walk. I also get it if I've been sitting for a while. The pain is in the heel and ball of foot. It goes aways after walking around for a few minutes. I also have increasing neuropathy in my legs, arms and hands and lips (of all places!). I've been on Gabapentin for 7 weeks, but the neuropathy has been pretty persistent. The new SE is that the joints at the base of my thumbs are incredibly painful and neither Advil or heat/ice give me much relief. I've been walking, doing pilates and accupuncture and taking magnesium and b vitamins. Any creative thoughts on the cause of the SE's and/or suggestions for other remedies. My MO's nurse said to try taking a break from Tam for a week and see if symptoms lesson, but I'm concerned about taking a week break. I feel like it took me about 10 days to adjust to it when I started and don't really want to go through that again! Let's just say I was extremely cranky!!

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited August 2015

    Lynne, if they had told me that a week ago, I would have never scheduled work shifts. I told them I had to schedule by the 21st nad they said it would be no problem to work around it. Until it was. I just wish they were honest. Oh well. It'll work out. I'll do what I need to do to get there. #1 is done. I need to remember a blanket next time. The bolus was huge and cold.

  • Rpayton
    Rpayton Member Posts: 235
    edited August 2015

    Kbeee geez they could at least have warm blankets. :-(

    Andrea congrats on your film debut!!! That is awesome! A cool story and memory at least.

    Enjoying my iced coffees before I start rads Mon and no coffee or tea again for a month. I was told it is too strong of an antioxidant and dehydrates. Bummer

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited August 2015

    They have them. I forgot to ask for one or grad one.....my bad! I did not realize how cold the bolus was, and I am one who gets cold easily anyway.

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited August 2015

    My RO attributes my good skin outcome to keeping moisturized. I suppose it might not stop burning, but any fool among us knows that if your skin is dry, it's more prone to peeling, cracking, and stiffening. I used Miaderm most of the time because it spread well and didn't itch. Seriously, the first thing any provider says when I whip off my shirt (BS, MO, RO, PT, PCP) is that I must really be keeping up on my moisturizing because my skin is so supple.

    FWIW, nobody said anything to me about coffee (I was even told by RO that I could have green tea as long as it wasn't more than one cup a day. She only wanted me off Vitamin C, alpha lipoic acid, and Omega-3s). I see a couple of mouse and in vivo studies, but not anything to convincingly support a coffee moratorium. However, everybody has to make her own decisions!

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited August 2015

    I used Aquafor 4 hours before, used Aloe immediately after, and used Miaderm this afternoon. Before bed, I'll slather something else on. I've got this collection of skin crap, darn it, I plan to use it all fo ras long as I can stand it!!!!

    No one mentioned anything to me about coffee. I was up at work last night all night, and I probably drank half a pot (work is the only place I drink coffee though). Oh well. The antioxidants and the rads can duke it out. I needed the caffeine.

  • Rpayton
    Rpayton Member Posts: 235
    edited August 2015

    I'm with you, Karen, I bought the aloe and miaderm and plan to use them. From what I read the miaderm works better if you use it from the very beginning. So let's cross our fingers and hope. And if I had to do what you do I would have to have the pot of coffee too!!! I'm not a coffeeaholic all day but love, love, love my one cup a day iced or hot. Oh well I gave it up for 5 months thru chemo I can do it for one more month. :-)

  • littleblueflowers
    littleblueflowers Member Posts: 2,000
    edited August 2015

    No Coffee or Tea??? What the Junk????? My RO didn't mention that- he just said nothing crazy like a green tea blueberry smoothie cleanse for a week or something. Also no antioxidant suplements. Every damn thing has antioxidants in it, unless you eat big macs for every meal. Yrrrf. Cancer is dumb. I'm over it.

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited August 2015

    I've had coffee and tea all the way through. I was told not to overdo it. Everyone makes her own decisions--for example, I had no alcohol from just after repeat mammogram to two weeks after chemo. Others make different decisions. Moderation is probably the most robust strategy for most things.

  • littleblueflowers
    littleblueflowers Member Posts: 2,000
    edited August 2015

    Ksusan, I'm sure you are right. I just don't have a moderate personality LOL. Living in this grey area really gets to me. I pretty much just eat normal/on the poor side compared to how I ate pre-cancer, just because I'm afraid of anti-oxidants. I gave up green tea for chemo. No coffee, no green tea, low on the fruits and veggies- I'm basically afraid to eat or drink anything that isn't meat or bread (neither of which I particularly enjoy). Its making me crazy. My RO said to eat normally, but normally for me is basically organic vegetarian, and that gave me cancer! So, I've gone from a super healthy, excercise 3 hrs a day, non-smoking vegetarian, to a slug who eats fast food- just because I don't want to do anthing to f*c$ up my chances with treatment. Sorry, mini-melt down. I think the lack of oxygen around here is getting to me.

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited August 2015

    You don't know that your previous diet hasn't protected you from worse cancer or other problems. Meat's got hormones, yo. I was told to increase my fruits and vegetables during chemo, and I was already vegeprefarian. That leaves you bread, so you may as well go extreme in the direction of your normal eating preferences. Also, oxygen is good! Are you folks getting rain any time soon?

  • littleblueflowers
    littleblueflowers Member Posts: 2,000
    edited August 2015

    Good point- I'll pick myself up here shortly. ITS JUST THEY TOOK MY FREAKING GREEN TEA AWAY FROM ME!!!!!!!!! I know the standard American diet is full of nasties, but there are so many standard Americans out there who don't have cancer. I was super health conscious, and here I am. With the worst kind of breast cancer. Seriously, for some reason its getting to me today. I hate every food I eat right now. I want my god damn veggies, fruits, and artisanal cheeses. Ok, just reading at that makes me laugh. I'm such a whiner. Can I have one more dose of good sense, please, and then I'll shut up?

    No rain in the long range forcast. I can't even see 5 blocks from here. My DH just I A'd a new fire, and he's having a melt down (inside) too because they almost got burned over on the last fire they were on yesterday. Yup, that happens and its part of the job, but for some reason we are both a little raw and not bouncing back like we used to emotionally. Doesn't help that we haven't seen each other in over a month. So, in liu of worrying about him, and his dangerous job, which could be made more dangerous by an upset mental state, and me and my suck ass probably deadly in the nastiest way cancer, I'm complaining about vegetables. LOL- its just a thing....

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited August 2015

    I am not a doctor, but I prescribe artisanal cheese right now. Sorry your husband's out in that.

    Also, here's from another thread on this board:

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  • Rpayton
    Rpayton Member Posts: 235
    edited August 2015

    http://nancyspoint.com/do-you-ever-wonder-why-you-...

    Littleblue this link was for you (me too). I get it and where you are at. All for a reason and we will ask a higher power someday. For now we will fight and kick cancer's ass with grace of course!

  • littleblueflowers
    littleblueflowers Member Posts: 2,000
    edited August 2015

    Thanks you guys. I needed both of those replies. Sanity and humor temporarily restored.

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited August 2015

    it is annoying to eat healthy, exercise, and dobthe right things and get cancer while a 389 pound smoker couch potato does not. I suppose it's s good thing I am not much of a gambler.

    I just put emu oil on. Chalk that up as something I never thought I would say. What part of the emu does the oil come from? Or do I not want to know???? I better not be smothering myself with emu semen

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited August 2015

    But that would be a real conversation stopper, too:

    • "You just have to be healthy and do healthy health thingies!"
    • "Oh, I know! I've been smearing myself with emu semen like there's no tomorrow!"


    I believe, however, that it's from emu fat, the emus having been farmed and their meat made into emu jerky.

  • littleblueflowers
    littleblueflowers Member Posts: 2,000
    edited August 2015

    it's schmaltz!! Kbeeee, have you been molesting emus again? In montana, that's still a hanging offense 😀er...nope. that's goats. Emus are fine. 🐐

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited August 2015

    Again with the schmaltz, nu?

  • gkodad
    gkodad Member Posts: 188
    edited August 2015

    At my first "weekly" RO appt, he asked what I planned to use for moisturizer, and I whipped out my tube of Maiderm [ thanks, Ksusan], and told him I had started before rads began. His reaction was "You're going with the big guns...that's good stuff". He said they don't automatically recommend it because it is expensive, but he seemed to think it was one of the best options. One week of rads at the end of today and I'm not even pink yet. But it's early...he said two to three weeks before it starts to show. Aquaphor is good but it is greasy. Since I bought a tub of it, I'm going to use the Aquaphor on my feet with socks at night.

    I have a rad schedule that is not my best option but they'll work with me as new times open up. My only issue so far is the lady before me who was not on time twice this week. This must be a frequent happening as the Rad nurse is clearly frustrated with her. But she also cancelled twice - so late twice, and didn't show up twice. I hope she's at the end of her treatment!

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited August 2015

    gkodad, I would be frustrated by someone who was late like that. I had to wait a while for my sim and run through, but was assured that was not the norm. They are proving that to be true so far. I have had to wait less than 5 minutes the last 2 days.

    Glad to hear it's emu fat!

    2 down, lots to go. I counted 7 different zaps today (if I counted right). They ranged in timing from about 5 seconds to 25-30 seconds. 3 were without the bolus (1 had some special attachment on the end of the machine; I think it is some sort of beam modifier) and 4 with the bolus. If I get 30, which is what the original plan was (though it is subject to change), then I am 1/15 done. Monday is my day for appointments. I get rads at 10, deported at 11, and then go to the eye doctor at 2:30.

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited August 2015

    That's a lot in one day!

    My boosts were bolus + that snap-on cone.

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