World Health Organization -Monsantos Roundup- Cancer

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World Health Organization -Monsantos Roundup- Cancer

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  • cp418
    cp418 Member Posts: 7,079
    edited March 2015

    Monsanto has been poisoning our foods for years and getting away with it. Roundup has been around since 1976. They are very powerful lobbyist.

  • MusicLover
    MusicLover Member Posts: 4,225
    edited March 2015

    This is one of the ways that our government can help in the fight against cancer.  If we can't find a cure, they can at the very least protect us from this sort of stuff. WTH?

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited March 2015

    Saw that. CEO said the stuff was safe enough to drink, no reports of him actually drinking a glass.

  • flannelette
    flannelette Member Posts: 984
    edited March 2015

    It seems to be clearly evident that Round-up's neonicortinoids (sp) are (one of the) more likely THE cause the the decimation of bees around the word. I am embarrassed to admit that about 6 years ago I actually used it to get rid of a patch of pampas grass. It didn't really work. I've been using white vinegar instead & the patch is nearly gone. Nobody should have planted that idiot invasive species here in the first place, and I am am trying to reclaim it to plant milkweed, so needed by the monarch butterflies.

    But the much larger picture is the extensive use of it agriculturally. I'm happy to say that my province, Ontario, is the first government in North America to take legal measures against it to almost but not quite phase it out by 2017. I think the European nations are set against it and I believe Monsanto actually sued or tried to sue them!

    Everywhere on FB people are lobbying against neonics. Also, I think there is a huge increase in #s of people looking into backyard apiaries. Of course, this doesn't address the cancer connection but..........roundup and Monsanto, IMHO, are high on the list of the general poisoning of the environment everywhere, which, I believe in years to come, will be shown to have been one of the causes of DNA and cell mutations and cancer. OK I'm not a scientist but...my personal opinion is - it's all so sick. I hope one gov't up after another stands up to kick them OUT.

  • MusicLover
    MusicLover Member Posts: 4,225
    edited March 2015

    I just watched the movie The East or most of it, which is about a group of young people who have decided to go after major corporations that are knowingly causing harm to water supplies which turn causes local residents to get cancer.  One of the things they do in the movie is serve the executives drinks of their poison.  I do need to watch it again so I really get what is going on but that is basically the jist of things.  It is just very funny that you said that Spookiesmom.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited March 2015

    Unfortunately the US Gov't is complicit in the widespread use of Roundup by having granted permission for the use of GMOs in our food without proper study.  Almost all of the soy, corn, canola, and cotton crops produced in this country, as well as many other crops, are sprayed with Roundup because they have been genetically modified to withstand it - and just the weeds are killed.  This is one of the reasons I try to be GMO free and don't eat corn/wheat/soy since my diagnosis, and go organic with other vegetables subject to pesticide residue or uptake as often as possible.

  • flannelette
    flannelette Member Posts: 984
    edited March 2015

    It seems to be clearly evident that Round-up's neonicortinoids (sp) are (one of the) more likely THE cause the the decimation of bees around the word. I am embarrassed to admit that about 6 years ago I actually used it to get rid of a patch of pampas grass. It didn't really work. I've been using white vinegar instead & the patch is nearly gone. Nobody should have planted that idiot invasive species here in the first place, and I am am trying to reclaim it to plant milkweed, so needed by the monarch butterflies.

    But the much larger picture is the extensive use of it agriculturally. I'm happy to say that my province, Ontario, is the first government in North America to take legal measures against it to almost but not quite phase it out by 2017. I think the European nations are set against it and I believe Monsanto actually sued or tried to sue them!

    Everywhere on FB people are lobbying against neonics. Also, I think there is a huge increase in #s of people looking into backyard apiaries. Of course, this doesn't address the cancer connection but..........roundup and Monsanto, IMHO, are high on the list of the general poisoning of the environment everywhere, which, I believe in years to come, will be shown to have been one of the causes of DNA and cell mutations and cancer. OK I'm not a scientist but...my personal opinion is - it's all so sick. I hope one gov't up after another stands up to kick them OUT.

  • flannelette
    flannelette Member Posts: 984
    edited March 2015

    and thanks, Special K, for making that interconnection clear to me - find a strong herbicide (neonicortinoids) or round-up that will kill weeds then modify seeds (GMO) to withstand that pesticide. Cool! So, instead of the weeds killing the crop (food) make a crop that kills people, and bees, and other creatures around those kinds of lands. Shameful. The other day at the Bulk Barn food bins was looking at the items for sale. Nearly every processed nut, seed, and of course all the junk foods listed corn oil or soy as their second product. Ick.

    I am so hoping that other provinces in Canada, and states in the US, will follow Ontario's example. I suppose in the US the lobbyists are hugely aggressive. I mean, they want to, or are going to, sue the European Union.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited March 2015

    flannelette - the biggest hope by those who object to GMO and Roundup is that consumers vote with their pocketbooks. I am seeing more and more products that advertise or certify that they are GMO free, and the Non-GMO Project has some traction. If people stop purchasing products/produce that contain GMOs then there is less incentive to use Roundup - and there does seem to be a push in that direction so I am hoping that discussing the link between pesticides and cancer will propel the conversation forward.  This is what spelled the end of DDT use many years ago, for the very same reasons.

  • MusicLover
    MusicLover Member Posts: 4,225
    edited March 2015

    We also need restaurants and any place that serves food to do the same.  In addition, people have to think about it when they are buying foods like cereal, pasta, sauce or anything that is made by a company.  It takes a lot of work that the public is not up for, in addition to the higher costs,, boycotting DDT was much easier I think. 

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited March 2015

    music - the good news is that with social media, the internet, blogs, and fierce competition by companies for our dollars - the information about a movement to avoid pesticides/GMO might be easier.  Boycotting DDT only had network news, word of mouth, and newspapers to spread the info.  Unfortunately, there are more food producers than ever before, so you are correct about the need for label reading and the level of work it takes to avoid this, but if there is enough news about the link to cancer people will hopefully pay attention. If the crowd at my local Whole Foods is any indication, then I think at least some people (myself included) are willing to put in the work - and I have noticed many more products in my regular grocery store that are themselves advertising that they are non-GMO.  I follow the Virgin Diet (no soy, corn, gluten, sugar, peanuts, dairy or eggs, although I do eat pasture raised chicken eggs now) and at least half a dozen of my closest friends do as well - and these folks don't associate with each other so they are not eating like this because we all hang out together - they are scattered geographically, it is because they are trying to avoid food that is unhealthy.  I think that is a hopeful sign :)

  • jessica749
    jessica749 Member Posts: 429
    edited March 2015

    SpecialK, can I ask you about the "Virgin diet"? First off, is it a way to avoid all the hormone/pesticide/genetic engineered infested food stuff? Second, seems kind of hard! I mean, I GENERALLY follow that diet (along with no meat or crap fish like tuna or farm raised salmon etc) but isn't it hard to be religious about it.


    Also this was interesting to readers of this thread: (idea of info traveling, now in mainstream nyt)


    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/25/opinion/stop-mak...


  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited March 2015

    Jessica - it is a way to avoid many of those things.  The plan promotes eating clean, organic, pasture raised, grass fed types of food.  By eliminating dairy you are eliminating some amount of hormones, but sources of animal protein will always have some. Avoidance of soy and corn, much of being GMO, is done to eliminate pesticides, which can cause inflammation.  I follow the dirty dozen, clean fifteen rules when buying produce, and I eat very little processed food. Avoiding sugar, peanuts and gluten are for anti-inflammatory purposes. This is a hard plan to follow, not gonna lie!  It becomes a way of life rather than a diet, but it is difficult when dining out or socializing to be sure.  I do it because eating this way was the only way I could lose weight I had gained from chemo and the initial months of hormonal therapy.  It also reduced my AI induced joint pain, so now I do it to hopefully live a longer and more healthy life, but also to be pain free and maintain my desired weight. 

  • BarredOwl
    BarredOwl Member Posts: 2,433
    edited February 2016

    Hi all:

    Thought you might be interested in this recent perspective from NEJM about GMO corn and soybeans:

    http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1505660#...

    The point about the formulating agents and combinations of pesticides being areas of unknown risk is interesting in light of this recent paper, which also includes an interesting description of the Hallmarks of Cancer and emerging hallmarks:

    http://carcin.oxfordjournals.org/content/36/Suppl_1/S254.full?sid=eeecc84c-b558-4b68-831c-d828a0b526f6

    BarredOwl

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