Supplements, what do you take?

Hi Gnatmo. I'm fairly new to this as well. I've been prescribed 50,000 IU of Vitamin D for eight weeks because mine's so low and I take a multivitamin, but I'm not taking anything else at the moment; still exploring options myself. I've read posts that say taking glutamine helps if you experience neuropathy. I had my first TCHP treatment on July 9th and so far not experiencing any side effects to speak of, but I keeping hearing the key is hydration, hydration, hydration and so I am hydrating and eating well while I can. As time goes on we'll see. My doc also recommended accupuncture for neuropathy and other side effects. Being in Colorado, I want to explore tmedical marijuana more especially for after chemo. The National Cancer Institute website has info about studies they're conducting that show marijuana can kill cancer cells without harming good cells.

gary null in his long ago book the egg project determined that all vegetables & even fruit in a lesser amount contain all the amino acids

Since chemo, I've had some SEs, but nothing that wasn't manageable, so I'm very pleased about that. I've been off work all the week after which helped, so I could rest when I wanted. My tastebuds changed some, but food is mostly still good, although drinks except water taste strange. I started to take a probiotic, but then got diarrhea the next two days, so I stopped taking it because I hadn't had that SE before. Not sure if it's related or not or just a delayed SE I would have gotten anyway. I think at least Vitamin C and Omega 3 would be good for me to take for now, too. My second chemo treatment will be July 30.

Vitamin C is an antioxidant and should be avoided during chemo.

bjsmiller, welcome, and best of luck with everything. As for the probiotic, not only is it OK during chemo, it may even help the chemo do its job. It will also help against thrush and against intestinal issues. The diarrhea may have been from something else, or maybe from too large a dose all at once.

Momine,

Thanks for the probiotic info and I think I'll try it again now that I'm pretty much over all SEs from 1st treatment. I had read that chemo will kill gut flora and that makes sense to me, but my onc said, no and I don't need to take a probiotic.

mkinoly,

Please share your experience with the cannabis oil; what you get and how much you take or how often. I'm toying with the idea of using it, too, especially after chemo, but need some more advice and information. Thanks!

I agree about the smoking, I wouldn't want to do that and I'm not looking for a high either just more natural cancer killers. I haven't approached my onc about a prescription yet, and I'm guessing she wouldn't prescribe while I'm doing chemo anyway, but I'll inquire later; just curious. Since legalization started in my state with medical, there are lots of medical dispensaries and I've heard with a prescription, it's much cheaper than recreational. Thanks for the update.

hi ladies, so glad I found this thread! Jeez my list is long. I'm taking curcumin, maitake mushroom extract, vitamin d drops, gluclosomine (for my runners knee), which has MSM in it, I forget to take my probiotics bec they're refrigerated and not in my pill dispenser- SMH😤, coq10, magnesium, acytel l-carnitine and d-ribose. The latter four are to treat the cardiomyopathy and EF dip from Herceptin.

They say d-ribose is so powerful but it's a sugar although not a fructose. I'm wondering if it's dangerous to take since sugars/fructose fuel cancer cells.

I think I'm leaving out a few things. Oh- multi vitamin and hmm, not sure. I also IF- intermittent fast although not a supplement I know :

mkinoly, the mushroom extract is liquid. It comes with a dropper and 20 drops is a full serving. My vitamin d is also a liquid. It squeezes out in one drop at a time. I put the vitamin d, d-ribose and mushroom extract in my juice. Since the d-ribose is sweet, it helps me tolerate the taste of my green green juices better. Or sometimes the rind of the lemon or lime is thick and adds a bitter flavor.

Good point about sugar feeding all our cells. I forget how I came to understand the difference tho. I think it's the different kind of sugar. I believe it's that tumor cells have 3 receptors that are fructose but don't quote me on that.

I'll say this tho. I went hard core ketogenic before my surgery. The biopsy pathology had the usual stuff. Then went ketogenic and the surgical pathology showed necrosis which is a form of apoptosis. So it was tumor was definitely being starved to death by the absence of sugar.

Very cool that you have an onc with an ND. Why did he prescribe d-ribose for you?

kay b this is a marvelous post. it's exactly what is occurring to me now. I always thought so, in fact I think it had gone to my brain perhaps about the time of that 1 tooth exray, perhaps even earlier. didn't make a note of when I notices a swollen vein at my temple. but that could have been.....1998.would need to think more carefully!? at anyrate!! it do move slow. I' inclined to call it: "old age"

Abigail, do you mean that you have had brain cancer since 1998?

MaryJC thanks for sharing your experience. My understanding of necrosis is the same as kayb stated above, unfortunately. I think if the blood supplies were beginning to get cut off then that would be a positive sign that the tumor was dying (not sure about that, though).

I believe that even with a ketogenic diet it's not possible to deny glucose to cancer, though it may make it less available. But it also makes it less available to all our other cells, especially our brains. In the absence of carbohydrates, fat and protein are converted to glucose through an elaborate and, in my opinion, not-that-healthy of a process. Our bodies have several ways to make glucose since without it we would die. If our body is distressed by lack of carbs and is putting energy into creating glucose from whatever source to survive, is that a good thing for someone trying to heal cancer? It doesn't sound good to me, though I admit I haven't researched it. Of course I'm happy for anyone that gets good results from a ketogenic, or any other, diet!

I don't know why the d-ribose was recommended to me, he just gave me a print out of a few things he wanted me to add to my already long list of supplements. We ran out of time with my tons of questions, lol. I've been so obsessed with learning about so many alternative medicine techniques I haven't even begun to check into d-ribose, but I definitely will.

Momine, you make a good case about sugars. They are all basically the same, and aren't inherently bad. The rate of absorption is the key so that, as you state, blood sugar and insulin don't go crazy outside of normal realms, which can have negative bodily effects. That's why whole grains and fiber are recommended, so that the carbs are digested more slowly, thereby releasing glucose at a steadier rate.

I love talking about this stuff with all of you, learning new things, and looking at things in a different way. My UMX is tomorrow and everyone on this board will be in my thoughts.

Abigail, not exactly. table sugar is converted to glucose much faster than a piece of wholegrain bread, but both are absorbed by the cells the same way once they enter the bloodstream as glucose.